10,000 Police, Soldiers, Security Officials Deployed To Keep Security At Government House

[jayboy]

Pull what off?

PAD couldn't dislodge the govt even with all their backing. What chance to the reds have? No court is going to dissolve Democrats anytime soon and the coalition isn't rambling, they all want to be in a working government, not begging Thaksin for election funds.

Er I thought PAD did dislodge the elected government with assistance from a "directed" judicial system.

[Wolfie]

This morning the person in charge at Taxi Radio Station said, he has agreed with 10,000 taxi drivers that as soon as tanks are seen in Bangkok, drivers will block all streets with their taxis, lock and leave taxis there.

Do you honestly think that, should the Military want to bring Tanks into Bangkok, that a taxi parked in the middle of the road is going to stop them... Tanks are designed to travel over such obstacles... :D (and they are not going to be worried about crushing a few)

For those who broke the protest laws, camped so long and people in charge did not do a shesh, violence is the suitable method.

Well, apparently preventing the Government from performing its duties is also in breach of Thai law... Does that mean that Violence is now acceptable against your 'Red Army' ?

[JacknDanny]

From what I hear from the red stage now, tanks are seen near Nong Khai. They asked why not bring those tanks to Bangkok so they can drive. From the news the reds got, people may make a coup at 20:00 tonight.

This morning the person in charge at Taxi Radio Station said, he has agreed with 10,000 taxi drivers that as soon as tanks are seen in Bangkok, drivers will block all streets with their taxis, lock and leave taxis there.

Koo82 you are a lunatic, it's people like you, with a mind set like you, that make Thailand one of the biggest jokes in the international community.

:D

Not only that, but his posts are now tiresome, bordering on lunacy and nonsense.

This is a worrying time for everybody in Bangkok, it doesnt need the flames of hate being stoked by this eccentric, gross exaggerator.

Please stop, any credibility you may have once had went out the window many moons ago.

[Insight]

The govt will simply clear one entrance and that's it.

As I said earlier - it's the same rules, just a different game. If reds want to play PAD game of tug of war with the police, they'd better be prepared, and they'd better anticipate a huge public backlash, and they'd better be prepared to shed those "innocent democratic lambs" image they've been trying so hard to sell.

That would be a an entirely different proposition.

Really have to agree with Plus here. The tone I'm getting from the BKK public is not one of sympathy or empathy towards the so-called Red Shirts, and this is amongst people who thought the PAD crossed the line raiding the airport.

As much as a select group of people on here are trying to send the impression the country is on the brink of a revolution, the reality is that apathy is at an all-time high, which could morph into anger if pushed hard enough. Thaksin, however, doesn't seem to be aware or appreciate this and the pushing is continuing.

[jayboy]

From what I hear from the red stage now, tanks are seen near Nong Khai. They asked why not bring those tanks to Bangkok so they can drive. From the news the reds got, people may make a coup at 20:00 tonight.

This morning the person in charge at Taxi Radio Station said, he has agreed with 10,000 taxi drivers that as soon as tanks are seen in Bangkok, drivers will block all streets with their taxis, lock and leave taxis there.

Koo82 you are a lunatic, it's people like you, with a mind set like you, that make Thailand one of the biggest jokes in the international community.

Not only that, but his posts are now tiresome, bordering on lunacy and nonsense.

This is a worrying time for everybody in Bangkok, it doesnt need the flames of hate being stoked by this eccentric, gross exaggerator.

Please stop, any credibility you may have once had went out the window many moons ago.

Isn't Koo a she? I see where you're coming from but since there is a massive and vocal presence on this forum supporting a different position from Koo it's surely only fair to let her have her say.I can't see any malice in her posts....and guess what, she probably broadly represents the views of many millions of Thais.

[jayboy]

The govt will simply clear one entrance and that's it.

As I said earlier - it's the same rules, just a different game. If reds want to play PAD game of tug of war with the police, they'd better be prepared, and they'd better anticipate a huge public backlash, and they'd better be prepared to shed those "innocent democratic lambs" image they've been trying so hard to sell.

That would be a an entirely different proposition.

Really have to agree with Plus here. The tone I'm getting from the BKK public is not one of sympathy or empathy towards the so-called Red Shirts, and this is amongst people who thought the PAD crossed the line raiding the airport.

As much as a select group of people on here are trying to send the impression the country is on the brink of a revolution, the reality is that apathy is at an all-time high, which could morph into anger if pushed hard enough. Thaksin, however, doesn't seem to be aware or appreciate this and the pushing is continuing.

I don't think you need to say you agree with Plus.When have you not?

However my main point was to ask how exactly you get "the tone" from so many millions of Bangkok residents? Can one subscribe to this service on True? I'm genuinely interested because my personal subjective impression is the complete opposite of yours.

[kurtgruen]

Civil Court orders protesters to stop blocking officials from entering Govt House

BANGKOK: -- The Civil Court Tuesday evening issued an injunction for the red-shirted protesters to stop blocking officials from entering the Government House complex.

The court issued the injunction after the PM's Office filed a lawsuit against the protesters.

-- The Nation 2009-03-31

If the Yellow can ignore a similar court order, why can't the Red. Unless they both live in different countryies, under different laws.

Because, I believe this government to be a lot more competent than the PPP was. Plus, this government has the support of the military, which the reds didn't and still don't. They may have the support of some of the police, but the military is "babysitting" them effectively ;-)

I think that ignoring the court order will turn out to be bad news for Thaksins groupies. Just because Samak and Somchai didn't have the power to enforce the law, doesn't mean that the present government doesn't. I think they are just waiting for Thaksin to make a fool of himself a little more.

The government has not much to loose by waiting right now. The Thaksin movement is loosing steam, instead of gaining it and it really doesn't have the power to effectively disrupt government.

The Democrats hold all the Aces...the military, the support of the majority of the population, better media access and the blessings of other influences.

On the other side, you have a convicted Criminal on the run and a movement that was known for it's violent actions in the past.

If I had to take odds, I would give Thaksin and his croonies about a 5-10% Chance of success. Maybe even less.

The thing is, that this government, even though it has the power to crush the red movement in a second, cannot afford to do this, after what previous governments did on October 7th. This government needs to be seen as benevolent and fair....drawing sides together, rather than creating trouble. So far, in my opinion, they are on the right track.

[sbk]

From what I hear from the red stage now, tanks are seen near Nong Khai. They asked why not bring those tanks to Bangkok so they can drive. From the news the reds got, people may make a coup at 20:00 tonight.

This morning the person in charge at Taxi Radio Station said, he has agreed with 10,000 taxi drivers that as soon as tanks are seen in Bangkok, drivers will block all streets with their taxis, lock and leave taxis there.

Koo82 you are a lunatic, it's people like you, with a mind set like you, that make Thailand one of the biggest jokes in the international community.

Not only that, but his posts are now tiresome, bordering on lunacy and nonsense.

This is a worrying time for everybody in Bangkok, it doesnt need the flames of hate being stoked by this eccentric, gross exaggerator.

Please stop, any credibility you may have once had went out the window many moons ago.

Isn't Koo a she? I see where you're coming from but since there is a massive and vocal presence on this forum supporting a different position from Koo it's surely only fair to let her have her say.I can't see any malice in her posts....and guess what, she probably broadly represents the views of many millions of Thais.

While Koo's real identity has come into debate, that is not the point. the point is that such rumor mongering is not acceptable on this forum and further such posts with no real proof of anything at all will be deleted and the poster warned and suspended.

[sriracha john]

*self-deleted post. Nevermind. I've busted enough to last a lifetime.

Edited March 31, 2009 by sriracha john

[samgrowth]

While Koo's real identity has come into debate, that is not the point. the point is that such rumor mongering is not acceptable on this forum and further such posts with no real proof of anything at all will be deleted and the poster warned and suspended.

Remember when Koo claims that some police was with the Red and have Red headband (or ribbon or whatsoever). Every one laught and damand proof from the lunatic Koo. So did I. Apparently Koo now is having the last laugh.... Read this by tha Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/03/31...cs_30099308.php

Officers supporting red shirts to face action

By The Nation

The Metropolitan Police will investigate and take possible disciplinary measures against police officers who publicly displayed their support for anti-government protesters, a senior officer said yesterday.

Pol Maj-General Suporn Phansua, a Metropolitan Police spokesman, said yesterday that officers had the right to show their political preference when they were not in uniform and outside of working hours.

"It's very improper for them to join [a political protest] in uniform," the spokesman said, adding that a police officer's duty is to keep law and order at a protest site and are required to stay neutral.

Suporn said the Metropolitan Police Bureau would identify which officers took part in the protest while in uniform and would urge their supervisors to take disciplinary action against them.

Many policemen recently participated in the protest outside Government House and queued up to receive red T-shirts, a symbol of the anti-government rally.

Natthawut Saikua, a co-leader of the red-shirted protesters, said that as many as 1,000 shirts and 500 headbands had been distributed to police officers sympathising with the movement.

He said the organisers also received requests for red shirts from soldiers guarding Government House. He added that the number of protesters increased in the evenings because police officers joined them after finishing their jobs.

[Insight]

The govt will simply clear one entrance and that's it.

As I said earlier - it's the same rules, just a different game. If reds want to play PAD game of tug of war with the police, they'd better be prepared, and they'd better anticipate a huge public backlash, and they'd better be prepared to shed those "innocent democratic lambs" image they've been trying so hard to sell.

That would be a an entirely different proposition.

Really have to agree with Plus here. The tone I'm getting from the BKK public is not one of sympathy or empathy towards the so-called Red Shirts, and this is amongst people who thought the PAD crossed the line raiding the airport.

As much as a select group of people on here are trying to send the impression the country is on the brink of a revolution, the reality is that apathy is at an all-time high, which could morph into anger if pushed hard enough. Thaksin, however, doesn't seem to be aware or appreciate this and the pushing is continuing.

I don't think you need to say you agree with Plus.When have you not?

However my main point was to ask how exactly you get "the tone" from so many millions of Bangkok residents? Can one subscribe to this service on True? I'm genuinely interested because my personal subjective impression is the complete opposite of yours.

I spend my week working between 2 offices in BKK, with around 50+ staff. If there's a red-shirt amongst them, they're keeping very quiet. There's also a few people outside the offices I know socially who also don't really appreciate what's happening at GH. All these groups are pretty unrelated.

So, no, I don't claim to know the tone of "many millions of Bangkok residents", but the cross-section I have has proven to be a good barometer so far. Thanks for your concern.

[sbk]

Then please post a news report of tanks moving onto the streets of bangkok, thanks.

[Insight]

There are no such reports.

[Shotime]

I talk to a couple people, too, but everyone seems preoccupied with the financial problems. Some people I talk to (not trying to start a rumor) feel as if nobody's going to make a difference in their life, anyway. Especially taxi drivers. Politics is not at the forefront of their minds. Some cities here are empty of tourists. That might be taken as rumor. Hua Hin is empty.

I see nothing on international news about Thailand, either. Politically, it does look like the dye is cast.

[Sunderland]

From what I hear from the red stage now, tanks are seen near Nong Khai. They asked why not bring those tanks to Bangkok so they can drive. From the news the reds got, people may make a coup at 20:00 tonight.

This morning the person in charge at Taxi Radio Station said, he has agreed with 10,000 taxi drivers that as soon as tanks are seen in Bangkok, drivers will block all streets with their taxis, lock and leave taxis there.

Errrrrr ... is that a coup in Vientiane (Laos) they are about to launch????

[kurtgruen]

I spend my week working between 2 offices in BKK, with around 50+ staff. If there's a red-shirt amongst them, they're keeping very quiet. There's also a few people outside the offices I know socially who also don't really appreciate what's happening at GH. All these groups are pretty unrelated.

So, no, I don't claim to know the tone of "many millions of Bangkok residents", but the cross-section I have has proven to be a good barometer so far. Thanks for your concern.

Same here, I don't know how everyone here in Chiang Mai thinks, but let me give you a small sample of one family....

6 years ago, they where all 100% Thaksin lovers. They also love the King more than anything.

Today, one of them is still a Red Shirt Supporter and wears a red shirt, too.

one of them participated in the PAD demonstrations (even though she used to be Pro Thaksin before)

another openly identifies himself as pro PAD and Pro Democrats

Two, one being the wife, who used to get paid to pay out the money for people who voted for Thaksins Government, don't support Thaksin anymore, but went to the Rally at 700 year Stadium last week (I guess they want to keep their options open ;-)

Two more, are totally indifferent and another one just wants it all to stop.

Now we are talking about a big family, who used to benefit financially from being Thaksin supporters, but now, only one of them strongly supports him.

If you come to Chiang Mai on a day, when it's not "Red Shirt Day" (Many Thais still believe in lucky days to wear different colors, i.e. Sunday - Red, Monday - Yellow and so on), you will not see many people in Red Shirts, aside from Coca Cola workers and others who have a red uniform at work. Some people are too poor to worry about colours and wear Red or Yellow, even if it is not popular, because that is all they got. So when you look around in Chiang Mai, which was Thaksins stronghold, you see very little open support from him. (Aside from the odd "PAID" rally, that might draw 1000 or though)

Even myself, being a strong PAD supporter, as most of you know, end up wearing a red shirt by accident sometimes lol. Then I quickly change, because I don't want to give anyone the impression that Thaksin has one more supporter.

Anyways, this whole thing is getting crazy. Let the government do it's job!

[Oberkommando]

I know a guy that knew someone that had a dog who's previous owner protested at the airport.

[Plus]

The situation is fluid. A few days ago a nationwide poll showed very little support for red agenda, and very little worry that they would actualy cause some real damage. Since then we had a clear escalation of red paranoia and Thaksin's rabid speeches calling for revolution. That would make some people worry while others would appreciate red's resilience and develop some new interest in the cause. Some would say the nation needs to gather around Prem and Privy Council and show unity, others would want Prem to come clear.

However, with Songkran apporaching fast, the mood will be reset, and reds will have to start building the momentum again. But even before the holidays they will have to finally declare their stand on complying with the law and either let the govt officials work or face the police action.

When people come back from holidays I just don't see them looking at reds in any other way but as troublemakers.

[Tony121]

You have the yellows with the hand clappers reds with the foot clappers, if there is a new group that starts protesting what body part will they clap ?

[kurtgruen]

The situation is fluid. A few days ago a nationwide poll showed very little support for red agenda, and very little worry that they would actualy cause some real damage. Since then we had a clear escalation of red paranoia and Thaksin's rabid speeches calling for revolution. That would make some people worry while others would appreciate red's resilience and develop some new interest in the cause. Some would say the nation needs to gather around Prem and Privy Council and show unity, others would want Prem to come clear.

However, with Songkran apporaching fast, the mood will be reset, and reds will have to start building the momentum again. But even before the holidays they will have to finally declare their stand on complying with the law and either let the govt officials work or face the police action.

When people come back from holidays I just don't see them looking at reds in any other way but as troublemakers.

....and if some of the die-hard reds don't disappear by Songkran, lets just hit them with some Powerful water cannons and say "Happy Songkran or Good Luck" or whatever you're supposed to say, when you get people wet :-)

[Shotime]

I know a guy that knew someone that had a dog who's previous owner protested at the airport.

Your "challenge" to Democracy line is great. Is it totally true? He has never won any election? Did he lose to anyone else, besides Kuhn Thaksin?

[kurtgruen]

You have the yellows with the hand clappers reds with the foot clappers, if there is a new group that starts protesting what body part will they clap ?

lol (No Comment)

[animatic]

Then please post a news report of tanks moving onto the streets of bangkok, thanks.

Basically I see it that Koo is reporting the stupidities being said

on the Red stage and their radio accomplices.

So in a way no mater how ravingly mad it seems we are getting a view into

how disjointed and despairing the red scene seems to be.

I wouldn't want to bet the reds are NOT saying whatever comes to mind to whip up the ranks,

Like 'tanks on the streets and taxi blockades' etc. just blather and propaganda for extremely local consumption.

Koo is a window to one side long glance at the nutters of What A Nut and crew.

[animatic]

You have the yellows with the hand clappers reds with the foot clappers, if there is a new group that starts protesting what body part will they clap ?

The whole thing is just a big ole Dose of the Clap.

Blue Balls?

Red Ass?

Green Gills?

Yellow Tail?

Brown Nose?

Black Heart?

Calls for a big tube of White Out!

Edited March 31, 2009 by animatic

[Netfan]

I see nothing on international news about Thailand, either. Politically, it does look like the dye is cast.

CNN is running pretty regular shots of screaming red-clad Thais outside the government house. Probably not what TAT wants to see. Sad, very sad.

As has been said, now, in the middle of a global financial crisis, is not the time to be dissolving governments and holding elections. But that wouldnt matter to Mr T, a guy who has never been interested in anything but his own personal gain. And its outside the thinking of most of the demonstrators that there is actually a big world out there beyond Chiang Mai and Isaan.

[Oberkommando]

As has been said, now, in the middle of a global financial crisis, is not the time to be dissolving governments and holding elections.

Why not? The US had one a couple of months ago.

[animatic]

As has been said, now, in the middle of a global financial crisis, is not the time to be dissolving governments and holding elections.

Why not? The US had one a couple of months ago.

Yes getting rid of the problem and installing the solution.

Thailand's already done that part.

[Journalist]

Why not just have an Enabling Act, so that the troublesome matter of elections during difficult times can be ignored altogether? It worked for the NSDAP.

Just look though at the blue bar that is at the top of the screen when the Nation's site is downloaded.

"Thailand news, Thaksin Shinawatra live broadcast, Thaksin phone in, Thaksin video link.....:

Thaksin is still the only game in town, irrespective of how many times his pathological farang kitchen sink foes say he's a busted flush. No mention atop the Nation's site about PM Bertie Wooster's weekly international photo op' and air mile accumulator.

[Netfan]

As has been said, now, in the middle of a global financial crisis, is not the time to be dissolving governments and holding elections.

Why not? The US had one a couple of months ago.

Yeah, its the same situation. No problem. Seriously, if there was an election scheduled, fine. Wait, didnt the oppostition just try to get the votes for no confidence? Uh, what happened?? Oh, they lost.

And can you even begin to imagine what would happen in this place if the government was dissolved and an election had to be held? Exactly what good would come of the disaster that would be?

Edited March 31, 2009 by Netfan

[Journalist]

Shaky Government's will swiftly call mid term elections if they are confident they can win, or improve their majority.

There's no great altruism about it.

Abhisit doesn't call an election because he ain't certain he'll still be flying First Class to Davos when the votes are counted. If he did, he'd call an election quicker than you can say' Royal Orchid gold card'