LazyCat Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 guys she wrote to me at 21: something stil there not alowed to leave by soldiers, not by party leaders. nevermind it's impossible to let someone think outside of the box when all onó can is take all news and all feeds for the real thing. Just think before PM was not so popular, now after all this he is almost hero, and will be a hero. I bet he is not stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helvetian Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Both sides shot on both sides. PAD shot on the UDD, the UDD shot on the PAD. Both caused damage and destruction, I think we all agree on that. Where does Thailand go from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldar1 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Damaging few cars or computers can not be compared to a threat of LPG Tanker, or attacks on civilians in their homes, or terrorising cars driving past. What about storming the control tower of a major international airport with planes still in the sky? Can that be compared? Planes were allow to land or were safely diverted to other regional airports. While fact checking this i ran into this nice statement from UDD which shows their tendency for treason "One senior DAAD source said the movement would consider any retreat by the government to be a military coup, and immediately launch a counter street offensive against the army" -from reuters link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helvetian Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) stil there not alowed to leave by soldiers, not by party leaders. Soldiers not allowing civilians to leave? Edited April 13, 2009 by helvetian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Damaging few cars or computers can not be compared to a threat of LPG Tanker, or attacks on civilians in their homes, or terrorising cars driving past. What about storming the control tower of a major international airport with planes still in the sky? Can that be compared? NO Do you want to reconsider that sensationalist assertion given the benefit of hindsight ? Was it not more a case of a few people attempting to obtain Somchai's flight plan ? Don't get me wrong, I was no fan of the PAD's activities and, despite getting an extra 6 days stay in Thailand, theire activities did little for the image of Thailand or the tourist trade. HOWEVER, I doubt that any lives were at risk and I noted how 'clean' the airport was left and how quickly operations were restored. Not sure I could predict the same result if the red shirts decided to park a few LPG tankers at Swampy. It was an armed and masked mob that stormed and took control of the tower. Wearing masks and carry weapons just to request to see a flight plan? Odd. Of course that assertion was put forward by the Bangkok Post for the benefit of the gullible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyCat Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 stil there not alowed to leave by soldiers, not by party leaders. Soldiers not allowing civilians to leave? well she is a red shirt does it count as civilian? I can't put the text of her sms here as it is on my mom's phone and she took it away.. but that's what she said that they are surrounded by army and army does not let anyone in or out. She also said that the rumors are they are held there to be shot to kill. scary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaminsa Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 stil there not alowed to leave by soldiers, not by party leaders. Soldiers not allowing civilians to leave? well she is a red shirt does it count as civilian? I can't put the text of her sms here as it is on my mom's phone and she took it away.. but that's what she said that they are surrounded by army and army does not let anyone in or out. She also said that the rumors are they are held there to be shot to kill. scary . The army is probably preparing a release procedure now that they have the reds boxed in. Identification , taking of photo & comparison to wanted faces etc .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helvetian Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Stop lying, all you Thaksin supporters. The yellow shirts never used violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaminsa Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Stop lying, all you Thaksin supporters. The yellow shirts never used violence. PAD never attacked anyone , they did retaliate however a number of times when attacked by the reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helvetian Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Serves that unarmed red shirt right then, trying to attack 20 armed yellow shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyCat Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 by the way I do not support anyone... just think that all this looks very strange....there were task to be completed by PM as to make people hate reds, make people love him, and erase reds from the face of the earth, if all this was quite impossible few days ago now it all looks like almost done with. I care less for Taksin, just people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyFive8888 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Serves that unarmed red shirt right then, trying to attack 20 armed yellow shirts. don't you realise why thaksin asked his families to get out of thailand? because he with the reds are planning to make the trouble we are seeing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helvetian Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Both sides are violent, yellow or red. Both sides are causing hate and both sides are killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaminsa Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Serves that unarmed red shirt right then, trying to attack 20 armed yellow shirts. Yes , serves him right , in all probability he did not attack alone and was not unarmed. What is he holding in his right hand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I've seen photos Soldier's shooting M16's in prone position at red shirts i.e. in sniper position. Would you do that with paper ammunition? Until now there are no reported death's on the Red side. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger571 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Here is an interview to Thaksin by CNN. Very interesting http://www.pantip.com/cafe/klaibann/topic/...4/H7742454.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helvetian Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) Could this be a farang with a blue water gun trying to put out a fire? He's going to get arrested for working without a work permit. Edited April 13, 2009 by helvetian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyst Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 stil there not alowed to leave by soldiers, not by party leaders. Soldiers not allowing civilians to leave? well she is a red shirt does it count as civilian? I can't put the text of her sms here as it is on my mom's phone and she took it away.. but that's what she said that they are surrounded by army and army does not let anyone in or out. She also said that the rumors are they are held there to be shot to kill. scary . It was just announced on TV that any of the protesters that want to go home should go to the statue of Rama V around government house. They will be allowed to leave. Maybe you should try to let your friend know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 PAD did not storm traffic control tower. It simply didin't happen. Afaik they didn't break into any secure areas during the "seizure". The poor red guy was part of a thousand strong men drunken mob that was sent to attack smaller PAD camp at Makkwan bridge in the middle of the night. They thought they were attacking only old women there but PAD guards from the main camp at the govt house got there just in time to give the attackers a one big lesson. >>> About the army not letting reds out - could be true, could be false, could be a plan to put psychological pressure on them so that they don't ask twice when the exits are open. Perhaps the army is getting ready to check everyone for weapons and ids and need time to set the logistics right. We'll see if there were allowed to leave in the morning. I doubt they'd turn it into a bloodbath and no one gets out alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 * Humour of it is a bit lost on me, but the double take after a mention of 500 baht cash in one of Thaksin's video phone-in's before it all hit the fan is a subject of a few laughs. Here's a ./edit - on second watch the video is ace! Would love somebody to confirm the translation I've asked for confirmations and explanations on the language forum at http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Confirmation...hi-t257245.html , but the interpretation seems pukka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 It is correct translation as far as I know Thai. Should be a required viewing for school children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 It was just announced on TV that any of the protesters that want to go home should go to the statue of Rama V around government house. They will be allowed to leave. Maybe you should try to let your friend know. Wonder if they will be actually be free to go or if they will be taken away for torture or simply disappeared as the Army did back in 1992? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyCat Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) It was just announced on TV that any of the protesters that want to go home should go to the statue of Rama V around government house. They will be allowed to leave. Maybe you should try to let your friend know. I cannot contact her as my mom took the phone away she also said they show the forum on TV.... and told me to stay off of it... Wonder if they will be actually be free to go or if they will be taken away for torture or simply disappeared as the Army did back in 1992? we were already here in Bangkok then.... it was scarry too... but everyone forgot about it very soon... Edited April 13, 2009 by LazyCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) It is correct translation as far as I know Thai.Should be a required viewing for school children. It is a correct translation but it may be a clip taken out of context. It's not totally clear what he is talking about when he says waiting in line for 500 Baht. It does seem damning but I'd rather hear more before thinking he put his foot in his mouth. On another note if anyone thinks we are heartless and cruel talking about the red shirts you should see what the Thai's think about them, themselves on their message boards. It's not pretty. Edited April 13, 2009 by wasabi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 PAD did not storm traffic control tower. It simply didin't happen. Liar. Thai protesters storm Bangkok airport control tower Merely one source. After this happened the Bangkok Post released a deliberately misleading news article stating they only wanted to see flight plans however they were both masked and armed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Visit My Website Hats off to these people ... normal citizens of Bangkok who did what the police should have been doing last week and every week over the past year or so. If more people showed the same courage to stand up and do the right thing, then Thailand would be in a much more favourable position and might just (maybe) be run by a government consisting of people with higher moral standards. Unfortunately, most people stand by and watch, or not even take an interest, while various degrees of madness unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) Noticing Helvetican's sudden thrusting presence, and supposing that several irritants have been banned from the forum recently; is it fair to think he's like that recurring bout of thrush, that even when you think it's gone, actually isn't? MODS feel free to delete this post/ move it to the medical forum, but some of these people just make me want to vomit. I apologise to all. (Meanwhile- it could be worse- kind of like a Thaksinite piles thing). [EDIT: Punctuation] Edited April 13, 2009 by Slip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaimai Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Liar.Thai protesters storm Bangkok airport control tower Merely one source. After this happened the Bangkok Post released a deliberately misleading news article stating they only wanted to see flight plans however they were both masked and armed. You preferred that report to this one, did you ? :- "But the group captain Chokchai Saranon, a control tower official, claimed 50 protesters demanded to enter the empty control tower but only three were allowed up by security officials. He said the protesters at the control tower eventually left". http://www.herald.ie/world-news/tourists-s...rs-1553181.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 It was just announced on TV that any of the protesters that want to go home should go to the statue of Rama V around government house. They will be allowed to leave. Maybe you should try to let your friend know. Wonder if they will be actually be free to go or if they will be taken away for torture or simply disappeared as the Army did back in 1992? Unfortunately in Thailand the dead normally just disappear into thin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaimai Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 On another note if anyone thinks we are heartless and cruel talking about the red shirts you should see what the Thai's think about them, themselves on their message boards. It's not pretty. Exactly what I have been hearing in my part of Isaan. The reaction by local Thais to the involvement of the monk on Saturday at Abhisit's car, and the one today in the street, had to be seen to be believed. They could not believe their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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