Red-shirt Tactics

[samgrowth]

The longer I live in Thailand, the better Cuba is starting to look ;-)

Hey Havana is not a bad place.......for those of us who are older,,,,,, like living in a antique auto museum, and seeing all the same type of cars we used to make out in the back seats...... great for memories

Just a quick question

Which JA [same letters that start off jackass] is it that won't call his mother.????

JAkrabob

or

JAturporn

Do you know a guy call Tony JAa?

Try google it

http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q=tony+ja

[samgrowth]

On the Thai TV a few minutes, more reporting from the Red Shirt Mob about the huge numbers of followers killed by the army...... the army collected the bodies and disposed of them , so they would never be found....

I thought DStation was already censored by Mark.

[webfact]

The longer I live in Thailand, the better Cuba is starting to look ;-)

Hey Havana is not a bad place.......for those of us who are older,,,,,, like living in a antique auto museum, and seeing all the same type of cars we used to make out in the back seats...... great for memories

Just a quick question

Which JA [same letters that start off jackass] is it that won't call his mother.????

JAkrabob

or

JAturporn

Do you know a guy call Tony JAa?

Try google it

http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q=tony+ja

Mark should employ him a s body guard

He's Thailands Jackie Chan (or even Bruce Lee or Jet Lee)... amazingly good that guy! BTW he comes from SURIN....

[sriracha john]

The longer I live in Thailand, the better Cuba is starting to look ;-)

Hey Havana is not a bad place.......for those of us who are older,,,,,, like living in a antique auto museum, and seeing all the same type of cars we used to make out in the back seats...... great for memories

Just a quick question

Which JA [same letters that start off jackass] is it that won't call his mother.????

JAkrabob

or

JAturporn

Jatuporn is the guilty and reprehensible son.

[Gonzo the Face]

The longer I live in Thailand, the better Cuba is starting to look ;-)

Hey Havana is not a bad place.......for those of us who are older,,,,,, like living in a antique auto museum, and seeing all the same type of cars we used to make out in the back seats...... great for memories

Just a quick question

Which JA [same letters that start off jackass] is it that won't call his mother.????

JAkrabob

or

JAturporn

Do you know a guy call Tony JAa?

Try google it

http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q=tony+ja

Mark should employ him a s body guard

He's Thailands Jackie Chan (or even Bruce Lee or Jet Lee)... amazingly good that guy! BTW he comes from SURIN....

Oh ... " The Proud of Surin "

The devil made me do it.

[Robby nz]

Now it's official, the red shirts never did any of the damage in BKK, never burnt buses, hijacked gas tankers, attacked the PM's car, shot anyone, tried to burn buildings etc it was all done by the blue shirts, the yellow shirts. the Govt, the army, the police or someone.

There were truck loads of dead bodies spirited away and the families of the dead have not come forward because they are scared of being killed.

Heard this all on TV streight from the mouthes of opposition MP"S in the ongoing rant, Oh sorry debate and MP's as the elected representivies of the people would never lie to those who elected them would they?

Said the reds were "bor re sut" Pure, virginal is the translation, so how could they possibly do wrong?

So now we all know, right?

[sriracha john]

Samut Sakhon Residents Oppose Planned Red-Shirt Rally

Villagers in Samut Sakhon Province have filed a petition opposing a massive rally scheduled for Saturday by the red-shirt group.

More than 200 villagers in Samut Sakhon Province gathered at City Hall to protest against the planned rally by the red-shirt Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship, or DAAD, in Muang District scheduled for Saturday.

The group also filed a petition with the provincial governor, asking that it be forwarded to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

The villagers say they do not want to see conflict among people in the province. They said the large number of workers in the area from outside the province may lead to clashes that will be difficult for security officers to maintain peace and order.

Samut Sakhon locals also expressed concern that residents on both sides of the political conflict may turn on each other, as in Bangkok's Nang Lerng community last week, resulting in loss of life and property damage.

The Samut Sakhon Governor said the rally can be held if conducted lawfully.

- TOC / 2009-04-23

Edited April 23, 2009 by sriracha john

[Plus]

Wouldn't it be the bodies of blue/yellow/the Govt/the army/police/green aliens?

[BSJ]

After reading post #1 it's hard to feel sorry for the Red shirt cause. Credibility now zero. To run away and hide, then make stupid threats is childish. Actually that's putting down children.....it's more like mentally unhinged ramblings of a lunatic!

[lannarebirth]

Of course the Red movement will be back, but any kind of armed struggle is just silly and stupid and counterproductive.

Agreed

Well, I'm as anti-violent as they come ('cept maybe for PB), but if it MUST happen, could they start with TOT and or TT&T, my internet service providers? I can help with the demands list if need be.

[Oberkommando]

Samut Sakhon Residents Oppose Planned Red-Shirt Rally

Villagers in Samut Sakhon Province have filed a petition opposing a massive rally scheduled for Saturday by the red-shirt group.

More than 200 villagers in Samut Sakhon Province gathered at City Hall to protest against the planned rally by the red-shirt Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship, or DAAD, in Muang District scheduled for Saturday.

The group also filed a petition with the provincial governor, asking that it be forwarded to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

The villagers say they do not want to see conflict among people in the province. They said the large number of workers in the area from outside the province may lead to clashes that will be difficult for security officers to maintain peace and order.

Samut Sakhon locals also expressed concern that residents on both sides of the political conflict may turn on each other, as in Bangkok's Nang Lerng community last week, resulting in loss of life and property damage.

The Samut Sakhon Governor said the rally can be held if conducted lawfully.

- TOC / 2009-04-23

I have a factory there and in my experience the vast majority are sympathetic to the red-shirt cause.

Poor people, factory workers, Issan and Burmese mostly.

[ballpoint]

I have a factory there and in my experience the vast majority are sympathetic to the red-shirt cause.

Poor people, factory workers, Issan and Burmese mostly.

Let's see how sympathetic you and your workers are when the reds park an LPG tanker outside your factory and threaten to blow it up.

[Journalist]

This is so stupid. It is so easy to be a leader outside Thailand using big words. Just like Thaksin , Jakrapob is unable to come back to Thailand easily and of course his money will now be frozen.

When will these people learn, it is not easy to fight government especially when resort to threats and violence.

Took a military coup and lese majeste respectively to cook their goose. They couldn't beat the system.

..

[sriracha john]

Samut Sakhon Residents Oppose Planned Red-Shirt Rally

Villagers in Samut Sakhon Province have filed a petition opposing a massive rally scheduled for Saturday by the red-shirt group.

More than 200 villagers in Samut Sakhon Province gathered at City Hall to protest against the planned rally by the red-shirt Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship, or DAAD, in Muang District scheduled for Saturday.

The group also filed a petition with the provincial governor, asking that it be forwarded to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

The villagers say they do not want to see conflict among people in the province. They said the large number of workers in the area from outside the province may lead to clashes that will be difficult for security officers to maintain peace and order.

Samut Sakhon locals also expressed concern that residents on both sides of the political conflict may turn on each other, as in Bangkok's Nang Lerng community last week, resulting in loss of life and property damage.

The Samut Sakhon Governor said the rally can be held if conducted lawfully.

- TOC / 2009-04-23

I have a factory there and in my experience the vast majority are sympathetic to the red-shirt cause.

Poor people, factory workers, Issan and Burmese mostly.

It's great then that the anti-Red locals who have been there generations are letting their position be known.

It's similar to Sriracha in that regard. At the first and only Red Rally here, it was almost exclusively all non-Srirachians that attended the small gathering. Those people that have moved in very recently to man the burgeoning factories.

I'd be surprised if there's a second one allowed as the first one occurred pre-Songkran mayhem time and while their hospitality towards visitors and newcomers is legendary (and the source of numerous folk songs), they are not ones to have that reputation taken advantage of.

Edited April 23, 2009 by sriracha john

[Johpa]

The majority of the population will not get involved, because they see nothing changing, no matter what crook gets into power. The poor will still be poor and got nothing to look forward to, aside from a few handouts and a few hundred baht for their votes, at election time.....

It must be that clear mountain air that allows you to think more clearly than our Bangkok based brethren. Someday another politician will come along that is not nearly as corrupt as Thaksin, but who does understand as did Thaksin, that by acknowledging the needs and aspirations of the poor and giving then something more substantial that a few hundred baat for a vote, that you can win their hearts and minds, as well as their votes. Of course that future politician will also have to fight against the entrenched interests who will fight to keep those national funds in their own pockets. The odds are good that this battle will be fought in one way or another. I think the best models are those of Central and South America.

We have not yet reached the mid-point in the game, a mid-point that many had expected to have arrived by now and so some groups are not in their expected positions. This has led to a destabilization of the political game board. I too would feel much safer up in the hills breathing clean air than living in the increasingly destabilizing capitol.

[321niti123]

In my opinion he's not such a smart person to allow himself to be interviewed by an international news agency, because after the day the reds caused the asean meeting to collapse and consequentially forced leaders of foreign countries to flee for their live, foreigners dont sympathize with the reds. Infact i think foreigners actually support abhisits method. The second reason he shouldnt have given the interview is because by answering those questions he's digging a grave for himself.

What he shouldnt have said

#1

"I believe the room for unarmed and non-violent means to resolve Thailand's problem is getting smaller every day," he told BBC by phone from an undisclosed location.

i think protest during songlran was non violent, CNN showed various pictures of red shirts holding knives, flammable chemicals filled in a beer (used for burning buses), exploding buses(i think we all saw that), and i think we can say that some of them had guns. I think exploding buses, gunfires, gastank threatening, and knives are hardly non violent

#2

Different tactics would be used to confront the government, including possible clandestine subversion or armed attacks, he said.

If songkran wasn't armed attack on the capital then it was violently armed terrorism, and if he thinks he can say that he's going to lead an armed attack and think that he will still have the support of the thai people he is mistaken. From what i have seen thai people support peaceful resolutions more than they support violence.

In conclusion, his answers are really bad and could be used against him easily.

[kurtgruen]

...I think the best models are those of Central and South America...

I definitely agree with you there ;-)

[LuckyFive8888]

somebody with experience please tell me your honest and professional opinion.

Do you think he has had a nose job?

no, that's an original "thai buffalo" nose.

[guava]

Oh ... " The Proud of Surin "

The devil made me do it.

nice

[Journalist]

It's great then that the anti-Red locals who have been there generations are letting their position be known.

It's similar to Sriracha in that regard. At the first and only Red Rally here, it was almost exclusively all non-Srirachians that attended the small gathering. Those people that have moved in very recently to man the burgeoning factories.

I always suspected that you were of a sufficiently venerable age to have lived in Sriracha for several generations, John !

[kurtgruen]

PM lifts state of emergency

By: AFP

Published: 24/04/2009 at 03:57 AM Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has lifted the state of emergency in Bangkok, saying he wanted to foster reconciliation after violent street protests against his government.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva (seen here on April 21) has lifted a state of emergency in Bangkok, saying that he wanted to foster reconciliation after violent street protests against his government.

Mr Abhisit imposed emergency rule in Bangkok and five surrounding provinces on April 12 after protesters stopped a summit of Asian leaders in the coastal city of Pattaya and the violence then spread to the capital.

Two people were killed and 123 injured as rampaging protesters clashed with troops and local residents.

The latest political demonstrations to hit the kingdom and its fractured politics ended on April 14 when the protesters abandoned a three-week rally outside Government House in the face of an overwhelming military presence.

"Today I intend to lift the state of emergency. At first I wanted to announce it in the morning [of Thursday] but as it is already past midnight it is considered a new day," Mr Abhisit earlier told a special joint sitting of parliament which continued into the early hours of Friday.

"Lifting the state of emergency is part of measures to find a solution for the country. The government wants to show its sincerity, that the government wants reconciliation and to make the country move forwards," he added.

Government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn later confirmed that the emergency regulations had been lifted.

"It's effective since 1am this morning," Panitan told AFP. "Today the government will repeatedly announce it on television and radio."

The joint session was called to seek ways of healing the bitter political divide between Mr Abhisit and his red-shirt opponents loyal to fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Authorities have issued warrants for the arrest of Thaksin -- who was toppled in a coup in 2006 and lives in exile -- and 12 red-shirt leaders for inciting the protests.

"After the lifting of the state of emergency all the suspects who have been detained under (emergency) law will be released, but those held in criminal cases will have to face the law," Mr Abhisit said.

A government minister had earlier this week said that a fresh red-shirt rally planned outside the emergency zone on Saturday would mean that the state of emergency might be prolonged.

The protest is planned in Samut Sakhon province, 36 kilometres outside Bangkok.

On Monday, Jakrapob Penkair, a senior red-shirt leader, told AFP from an unknown foreign location that the group would continue their campaign against Mr Abhisit.

The group wants Mr Abhisit to quit and call elections, saying that he came to power unfairly in December after a court toppled Thaksin's allies from power.

Police are still hunting the gunmen who last Friday attacked Sondhi Limthongkul, a founder of the People's Alliance for Democracy movement which led a blockade of Bangkok's airports last year.

The airport siege ended after the court ruling that helped bring Mr Abhisit to power.

Army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda admitted on Thursday that three M16 cartridge cases found at the scene came from a military unit.

Interesting. I wonder what the government tactics where, announcing this after midnight. Should be an interesting weekend :-(

[Koo82]

On the Thai TV a few minutes, more reporting from the Red Shirt Mob about the huge numbers of followers killed by the army...... the army collected the bodies and disposed of them , so they would never be found....

I thought DStation was already censored by Mark.

I don't think they will ever let us watch DStation again because the reds have some video clips they don't like.

[kurtgruen]

I don't think they will ever let us watch DStation again....

Don't cry Koo, they shoot down the KooKoo station, but you can watch real news here...

http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/

[TAWP]

On the Thai TV a few minutes, more reporting from the Red Shirt Mob about the huge numbers of followers killed by the army...... the army collected the bodies and disposed of them , so they would never be found....

I thought DStation was already censored by Mark.

I don't think they will ever let us watch DStation again because the reds have some video clips they don't like.

Showing what?

And why aren't they on Youtube?

[sriracha john]

Pheu Thai Party MP Arunee Chamnanya

Pheu Thai Party MP Narumon Thandamrong

Pheu Thai Party MP Plengmanee Rengsomboonsuk

Press, Pheu Thai Party MPs have a war of words

A press conference held at the Parliament yesterday by Pheu Thai Party MPs turned into a bit of a battlefield after Opposition MPs put forward a woman who was allegedly assaulted during the crackdown on Songkran Day.

The press conference was held after Pheu Thai Party MP Arunee Chamnanya finished her speech at the joint session, saying a man had grabbed a woman's hair while soldiers stood by watching.

Once Arunee finished her speech, she and some other Pheu Thai Party MPs decided to meet the press outside the chamber with the victim, Mintra Sorot. All this was taking place while the government was giving their version of the incident.

To counter the allegation, the government presented a video that showed Mintra spitting at the man before he grabbed her hair. However, Mintra denied anything like this had happened during the press conference.

Instead, she said, that while she was at the Victory Monument on April 13, she and the man had an argument about whether or not the military had used arms during the crackdown. She said that as soon as she named the weapons used by the military, the man got angry and grabbed her by the hair.

Mintra also held up photographs of the man pulling her hair, while many soldiers stood by in the background.

After that a war of words broke out between the reporters and the Pheu Thai Party MPs when they were asked why they had not waited to hear the government's explanation before calling the conference.

Pheu Thai Party MP Narumon Thandamrong opened the battle by shouting: "Who are you to condemn us? We are just holding a conference."

"You are biased," Pheu Thai Party MP Plengmanee Rengsomboonsuk yelled at a reporter before saying that they should all go to the police instead of meeting the press.

The incident ended up with many reporters walking out of the press conference.

-- The Nation 2009-04-24

[Samuian]

On the Thai TV a few minutes, more reporting from the Red Shirt Mob about the huge numbers of followers killed by the army...... the army collected the bodies and disposed of them , so they would never be found....

I thought DStation was already censored by Mark.

I don't think they will ever let us watch DStation again because the reds have some video clips they don't like.

Showing what?

And why aren't they on Youtube?

The answer is in the second question....

Simple they haven't got any footage which would hold the water...

all foul stuff!

Much the same this whole thing "the Taksinista Legend" is made up of.

Ladies and Gentlemen welcome to the plot of 1.000.000.000 lies -

continuing.....counting.....

[Ricardo]

After that a war of words broke out between the reporters and the Pheu Thai Party MPs when they were asked why they had not waited to hear the government's explanation before calling the conference.

Pheu Thai Party MP Narumon Thandamrong opened the battle by shouting: "Who are you to condemn us? We are just holding a conference."

"You are biased," Pheu Thai Party MP Plengmanee Rengsomboonsuk yelled at a reporter before saying that they should all go to the police instead of meeting the press.

The incident ended up with many reporters walking out of the press conference.

-- The Nation 2009-04-24

Perhaps they should ask Senor Thaksin, to lend them his comic 'good-question/bad-question' bats, next time they schedule a press-conference ? Or they could maybe modify a surplus-to-requirements 'Happy-Foot-Clapper' ?

[warfie]

On the Thai TV a few minutes, more reporting from the Red Shirt Mob about the huge numbers of followers killed by the army...... the army collected the bodies and disposed of them , so they would never be found....

I thought DStation was already censored by Mark.

I don't think they will ever let us watch DStation again because the reds have some video clips they don't like.

good

[samgrowth]

On the Thai TV a few minutes, more reporting from the Red Shirt Mob about the huge numbers of followers killed by the army...... the army collected the bodies and disposed of them , so they would never be found....

I thought DStation was already censored by Mark.

I don't think they will ever let us watch DStation again because the reds have some video clips they don't like.

good

For the sake of peace in the land of fish & padi. Any mentioning of Thaksin over public media (local and foreign) should be banned. In 6 months, nobody will remember.

Long live Mark.

[animatic]

Sam there really IS some logic in that.

Keep Out of Sight, when Out of MIND.