george Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Shocking mistake Woman mistaken for sister attacked with electroshock gun by debt-collecting gang CHAIYAPHUM: -- A grilled-chicken vendor says she was assaulted by debt collectors who used a Taser gun and death threats yesterday after mistaking her for her sister. The victim, Wanpen Klingsukhon, 38, told Daily Xpress that she complained to police after she almost lost consciousness when a woman and three men attacked her with the electroshock gun. But police officers refused to get involved, and told her to ask for Bt500 compensation from the gang, she said. Her elder sister had borrowed Bt3,000, Wanpen added. But the gang refused her sister's offer to pay all the money back at once as it wanted to keep collecting the interest of Bt150 per day. Wanpen is demanding the authorities and provincial governor look into the case. Police 'commission' Chaiyaphum has plenty of debt collectors, known as "safety helmet people" because they ride motorcycles and offer their clients the choice of paying interest or facing assault. Chaiyaphum police chief Maj-General Decha Chuayboonchoom yesterday said he had ordered his men to be vigilant for debt collectors demanding high rates of interest. -- The Nation 2009-06-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 So the police want the woman to extract 500 Baht from a gang of people who collect debts as compensation for the assault administered by the same gang. Word to the not so wise - BIB - get off your arse and do your job !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mai Krap Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Nice Story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vulcan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Interest only of Bt150 per day on a Bt3,000 loan! I'm in the wrong job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 What a pity that this behaviour is not reported on by the world's free Press and the question asked 'Do you really want to spend your holidays in a country capable of this?' It would be interesting to see the reponse of TAT. Probably the sad truth is that practices such as this are common worldwide and have no news value. Best stick to showing pictures of pneumatic young ladies wearing not a lot or reporting on the antics of <deleted> grossly overpaid footballers, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Word to the not so wise - BIB - get off your arse and do your job !!!! But they are doing their job - Thai style. TIT. Any hope that they might morph into guardians and applicators of the law any time soon is certainly a forlorn one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejumbo Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 How do we reconcile this behaviour and lack of law enforcement with human rights? Many of us are prepared to shrug this off, but the police's response is as bad if not worse than the debt collectors. As we've noted before, many of these loan sharks are related in some way or another to police even being police people themselves. I am sure in a small place like Chaiyapoom the police would at least be familiar with the lender. The chicken vendor is powerless to do much because she is poor. By-the-way does anybody know the law regarding the use of the Taser? They sell them openly on Silom and around tourist areas, and wondering if there are rules against using them. I've got one for self-defense. I bought it when the PAD were threatening to block junctions last December....Mine was the most powerful one sold by the stall, and it can apparently kill a dog and knock out a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLaughingMan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 But this is Thailand and all the people are wonderful and perfect and the police are great and they don't murder and steal and if you don't like it here why don't you go back home? No need to discuss any of Thailands glaring shortcomings, it means there is something wrong with you if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khonkaen man Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 It would appear that the woman has taken the pain bcos the sister is no where to be found. Normal practice, if you dont pay they get someone in your family to pay or your house or you get hurt. I have been told personally how it works and if you resist too much the pillion passenger is always carrying a gun. Why is it allowed to go on bcos the whole money lending business is run by the local bib. Come the revolution its going to be open season on these boys in brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Like Banks with a early payment fee. Thats messed up if she has the money to pay it back then they should let her pay it back. There will always be another debter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asianrider Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 the APR on 5% interest per day is astronomical !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 More here in the Thai Press: http://breakingnews.nationchannel.com/read.php?newsid=387004 http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/home/detail/...2%E0%B8%A7.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 How do we reconcile this behaviour and lack of law enforcement with human rights? Many of us are prepared to shrug this off, but the police's response is as bad if not worse than the debt collectors. As we've noted before, many of these loan sharks are related in some way or another to police even being police people themselves. I am sure in a small place like Chaiyapoom the police would at least be familiar with the lender. The chicken vendor is powerless to do much because she is poor. By-the-way does anybody know the law regarding the use of the Taser? They sell them openly on Silom and around tourist areas, and wondering if there are rules against using them. I've got one for self-defense. I bought it when the PAD were threatening to block junctions last December....Mine was the most powerful one sold by the stall, and it can apparently kill a dog and knock out a human. Then I wish that one day someone will try his taser on you. Well.....not really! And pray, what were your plans relating to the PAD, using one taser against 20,000 people, or somethingh like that. Of course, you could always ask some people to hold hands, and then use the taser on the first one in the row. Very funny! But, remember, someone with a weak heart, a pacemaker, asthma, can be knocked out definitely. Which is called....murder. A taser, even the weak ones, are arms. And as with all arms, you should know how to use them. Learn what they can do, how to keep them safe, how to use them in the right way. And also learn to accept the consequences when you use the thing. Mind you, even the official users often don't know how to operate arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Protect and serve? The police in this country are a shambolic disgrace unworthy of the accusation they might be law enforcement officers. Tasering the police chief might be a possible solution but then that presupposes he has a consciousness worth jolting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Protect and serve?The police in this country are a shambolic disgrace unworthy of the accusation they might be law enforcement officers. Tasering the police chief might be a possible solution but then that presupposes he has a consciousness worth jolting. I bet if we did taser him, he'd want more than 500 baht compensation !! - maybe.....600, 650 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainmal Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 If you read the book, "Welcome to the Bangkok Hilton", you will know that the Iris Bloke experienced similar circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Come the revolution its going to be open season on these boys in brown. I sincerely hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanook2me Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 But this is Thailand and all the people are wonderful and perfect and the police are great and they don't murder and steal and if you don't like it here why don't you go back home? You have seen the light This is Thai on Thai and as far as I know farangs are not normally involved in this sort of thing but its wise not get involved in anything like this in my humble opinion. It happens in the UK too believe or not! http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/media-cent...d-rapist-jailed So not only in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainmal Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 You have seen the light This is Thai on Thai and as far as I know farangs are not normally involved in this sort of thing but its wise not get involved in anything like this in my humble opinion. It happens in the UK too believe or not! http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/media-cent...d-rapist-jailed[/ur Listen Mate, There is a big difference. In UK this is a total criminal act. In Thailand this is a defacto criminal act. The other difference is that the cops in the UK get off their <deleted> and investigate the matter, not like the Thai Police who look for tea money to investigate the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 None of these mafioso moneylenders are ever brought to justice. They are too powerful and operate with full knowledge of and consent of the Thai Police, sometimes even Police are directly involved. The poor woman in the story is lucky she didn't lose a finger or toe as that is their usual modus operandi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 The victim, Wanpen Klingsukhon, 38, told Daily Xpress that she complained to police after she almost lost consciousness when a woman and three men attacked her with the electroshock gun. But police officers refused to get involved, and told her to ask for Bt500 compensation from the gang, she said. Sad, sad, sad if a boy in brown really told the lady to ask for Bt500 in compensation from the bad guys, not to mention the refusal to get involved. Guess it must had been quiting time and crimes don't carry over to the next work day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phupaman Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Hi All. I am an englishman and just cannot understand the amount of posters who post ,,stay away,,dont get involved, it is not our family so just pretend it did not happen. We all know the Thai police are useless but the time is now and if this corrupt behaviour come close to home you have to do what they do.But do it first.. phupaman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLaughingMan Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 If you were to interfere with Thai gangsters, their automatic and quick response would be to murder you. This is not a probable outcome but a guaranteed one, you might as well commit suicide. Or was that your meaning? We should be willing to die for morality when no one else would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phupaman Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 laughing man. My meaning is ...Get them first. phupaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oMega69 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 How do we reconcile this behaviour and lack of law enforcement with human rights? Many of us are prepared to shrug this off, but the police's response is as bad if not worse than the debt collectors. As we've noted before, many of these loan sharks are related in some way or another to police even being police people themselves. I am sure in a small place like Chaiyapoom the police would at least be familiar with the lender. The chicken vendor is powerless to do much because she is poor. By-the-way does anybody know the law regarding the use of the Taser? They sell them openly on Silom and around tourist areas, and wondering if there are rules against using them. I've got one for self-defense. I bought it when the PAD were threatening to block junctions last December....Mine was the most powerful one sold by the stall, and it can apparently kill a dog and knock out a human. The stunguns are use less . . search at youtube and see . . i have use 3 differnt stun guns here in Thai on my self . . its a j0ke.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timinchina Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 the APR on 5% interest per day is astronomical !! It's gotta be right up there with Barclaycard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Just another example of why research always finds that the Thai Police force is the most corrupt government agency in Thailand. Some may recall Khun Seri, the Policeman who was highly respected for his honesty and sincerity, he made it to the top but was dismissed by Samak. Doesn't take much thinking to work out by Samak sacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phupaman Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Hi All. It is intresting to read that the bib are involved in this kind of crime. In every province of Thailand Thai's and Farangs are found dead in suspicious circumstances, How many people are caught and charged with these crimes? I would guess about 2%. Why? is it truly because they have no brains, or are they just plain greedy for money. phupaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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