Garmin obviously has problems and poor customer support. They refuse to actually look at their map and provide the information I asked for. Below is my answer to their previous email;

"What I was actually trying to find out is if that bridge is on your map. I know for sure that it is on the ESRI Thailand map. Obviously I will NOT buy the Garmin map if it is inferior. May or may not be is not an acceptable answer."

Their answer to the above;

"Thank you for contacting Garmin International. The only information I

have for Thailand can be found at https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=253...803#coverageTab

This will not show that exact bridge. I apologize, I do not have an

answer to your question. A company called Navteq makes those maps, so

they should have the information for you at www.navteq.com."

City Navigator Southeastern Asia NT v4.00, [1] SEA_NT_TA200810 v4.00"

basjke, I went to Garmins site and nowhere can I find a version number on the SE Asia map that is available for download. I checked my unit and it shows "City Navigator Southeastern Asia NT v3.00, [1] SEA_NT_TA200803 v3.00"

So I have to agree with InterestedObserver, if his unit is displaying as he says, then there must be a V4.00 now.

. A company called Navteq makes those maps, so

they should have the information for you at www.navteq.com."

The picture gets ever more confusing. In 2007 after being widely predicted to buy out TeleAtlas, Garmin decided not to go ahead and instead signed a long-term contract with Navteq for many of its maps around the world. My understanding is that Garmin nevertheless decided to go with TeleAtlas for the SE Asia map. Everything we know in terms of the identifiers on the maps on this thread suggests that they are made by TeleAtlas. So is this just another example of Garmin's ignorance of their own products? By the way, as far as I know from snippets on the web, ESRI is another global company and is not a subsidiary of Navteq. I think we really need somebody in the GPS business to guide us through the maze.

Edited July 7, 200917 yr by citizen33

QUOTE (CDNinKS @ 2009-07-06 04:11:07)

QUOTE

S.e.a. version 2 =335

S.e.a. version 3 =363

There is no version 4 yet.

Thanks Basjke, those are the numbers I'm referring to, but was looking for the ID number for Thailand Ver 9

Esri map is id 57

That is the ID for ver 8. Anyone have the ID number for Ver 9 ?

QUOTE (CDNinKS @ 2009-07-06 04:11:07)

QUOTE

S.e.a. version 2 =335

S.e.a. version 3 =363

There is no version 4 yet.

Thanks Basjke, those are the numbers I'm referring to, but was looking for the ID number for Thailand Ver 9

Esri map is id 57

That is the ID for ver 8. Anyone have the ID number for Ver 9 ?

Why you ask a question if you think you know it better.

Why you ask a question if you think you know it better

Jai yin yin

I'm sorry, maybe English is not your first language, so I will give you a free pass this time.

What I meant was, I tried ID number 57 and it did not work, googled many sites and no one has posted the ID number yet for VER 9. Hence why I was asking.

Again, I thank you for trying to help.

Have a nice evening

P.S. Nice bike!!

Edited July 7, 200917 yr by CDNinKS

Why you ask a question if you think you know it better

Jai yin yin

I'm sorry, maybe English is not your first language, so I will give you a free pass this time.

What I meant was, I tried ID number 57 and it did not work, googled many sites and no one has posted the ID number yet for VER 9. Hence why I was asking.

Again, I thank you for trying to help.

Have a nice evening

P.S. Nice bike!!

This has nothing to do with my native language.The id for ALL the thai maps from esri is the same.If it didn't work for you then you probably did something wrong cos it worked for me.By the way do a google there are several sites that have published all the garmin id's including the Tsm V9.0

ESRI V9 ID- FID:57 PID:1

You can also use FID:100 PID:1 This code is used for a No Pain version download

Thanks Bpraim1, I went with the No Pain version as it is "no pain"

It worked very well and I now have it up and running. I see this version is far better than the SE Asia version 3 for detail.

ESRI TSM v9.0 even has the Kanchanaphisek Bridge properly labeled and in place.

I used the bridge coordinates for SEA_NT_TA200803 v3.00 and they are accurate. It took me right to the middle of the river but there was no bridge. The routing is different from ESRI V9 too. The fastest route from my home to Jomtien was 37 kilometers further. Amazingly enough, the shortest route was shorter but there appears to be some VERY minor roads on the route. I think I'll keep the newest ESRI V9 map.

A bit late but the .img file (Thai & English) both show PID 1, FID 57, Thailand StreetMap v9.0 NT. Hope this helps.

Later...

Don

Thanks Bpraim1, I went with the No Pain version as it is "no pain"

It worked very well and I now have it up and running. I see this version is far better than the SE Asia version 3 for detail.

Where is the no pain site, I can't seem to find a download for V9 or NT 4 (asia) for free.

We cant link on TV to copyright material.

But google "garmin thai map no pain edition" lists 3 or 4 of the main well known places were constant map updates and releases are posted in the front page.

Just following the thread

Just an update:

At the moment the S.E Asia map version 4.50 is available and is in NT format. (Family ID is 2044). This map covers Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macao and is sold by Garmin

ESRI has version 9.0 available (Family ID = 57) and is also in NT format.

The SE Asia has indeed many more roads in rural areas. However, a lot of these rural roads shown on the GPS map are nothing more than walking trails so when you use auto-routing blindly you may end up in strange places.

The Rotweiler map appears to be an edited/modified copy of the ESRI version 7 map (Family ID = 5065 if I am not mistaken) and is in the non NT format

Both maps (SE Asia and ESRI) are available as gmapsupp.img files which is the format which is used by the GPS. Using GmapTool the gmapsupp.img file can be split in individual "maps" and the map can then be used in Mapsource as several people have indicated here. The Rotweiler map comes ready for Mapsource.

There are some rumors that ESRI will come out with a new version soon (probably version 10 I guess) and I assume that this new map will also be in NT format. This NT format is a special format (kind of .zip format) which compresses the file and makes the map considerable smaller when compared with the non NT version

This NT format, up to now, has not been hacked in terms that the contents can not be copied and used in another map - this could also be the reason why the Rotweiler map is behind the time. The map however can be hacked in that a new lock (25 numerical code) can be inserted to make it compatible with other GPS ID's or the lock can be completely removed so it can be used in any Garmin GPS.

We cant link on TV to copyright material.

But google "garmin thai map no pain edition" lists 3 or 4 of the main well known places were constant map updates and releases are posted in the front page.

Excuse me for my stupidity, i have recently "acquired" from one of those well known sites talked about a download of the Garmin GPS map v9.

Is there a specific way to upload the map on to an SD card, as my Garmin Oregon 300 doesn't seem to be recognising it.

I am lead to believe this map can run on this unit, any advise on getting up and running appreciated

Depends on what you have if its the gmapsupp.img file its often just to be loaded onto the device (will overwrite existing maps of you delete the exisiting file/files).

Or it might need unlocking.. Jetmouse unlocker exists online.

Or you might have a mapsource installer.. Again could be unlocked already or locked.

Depends on what you have if its the gmapsupp.img

Or you might have a mapsource installer.. Again could be unlocked already or locked.

Hi LivinLOS,

It is the gmapsupp.img i have, and as far a I'm aware it is unlocked?

I have also got the mapinstaller app, can this cause a problem.

Depends on what you have if its the gmapsupp.img

Or you might have a mapsource installer.. Again could be unlocked already or locked.

Hi LivinLOS,

It is the gmapsupp.img i have, and as far a I'm aware it is unlocked?

I have also got the mapinstaller app, can this cause a problem.

If you have the map as an unlocked gmapsupp.img file then you just copy it (overwrite the existing map file) into your GPS memory. If you have more than one (1) map installed that you want to keep, then you may need to rename one of the maps.

Edit: Just noticed that you are asking about a Oregon 300. The info provided was for a Nuvi series, not sure if they are the same.

Edited November 21, 200916 yr by InterestedObserver

Easylife,

be sure to copy the file into a folder on your SD card called "Garmin" (without quotation marks).