GraemeF Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Can anybody assist with current pricing for domestic usage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maichai40 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Can anybody assist with current pricing for domestic usage ? If you are in your own house/apartment the price is 3,5 baht/unit. If you stay in a rented condo or guesthouse or long term rooms for rent is between 5 and 8 baht/unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeF Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 WOW !, the manager of my villa is giving me bills at 8 per unit. Think he is creaming tooooooooooo much ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatinBKk Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 One guy in Samui with 'delux' villas, charges 10 Baht...greedy piggy he is...and he creams of the water and maitenance charges as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Can anybody assist with current pricing for domestic usage ? Depends on the powersupply/meter. 100 Amp single phase government we pay 4,04 baht/kwh In a project with huge 3 phase meter there are 3 different prices depending on what time of the day. Average is 3,6 baht/kwh both prices include tax and vat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster80 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Was looking around for a new apartment not long ago. Price per unit ranged from 5 baht to 10. But several serviced apartments charged 15 baht per unit! Now, THAT is crazy... Its best if your place has its own meter from the government. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaibloke Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Chalong 60 amp singlephase 3.92 bt per kwh including vat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Can somebody explain the huge differencies in price charged per unit (other than greed!) Are there any genuine reasons why some properties are charged more than others by the power supplier, as opposed to the landlord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Can somebody explain the huge differencies in price charged per unit (other than greed!)Are there any genuine reasons why some properties are charged more than others by the power supplier, as opposed to the landlord? As I mentioned.. Lots.. Development meters are charged higher rates than final meters.. Often developers put the temporary supply up when building and never bother to finish as a 'gov meter' is another multi 1000 cost. Thats whats on my house and I will only pay the base price and my landlord makes up the difference. Or developments fit a single transformer and have a commercial price and they have to budget in costs of transformer replacement (they go pop in case you havent noticed) my old development was 3 phase and like this. Its very common in fact to have the central power supplied to a development and then meters to each house but a single bill to the gov for the developer, householder administration and late payment must all be processed, bills collected, etc etc This takes time and maybe an employee, costs on top of the electric costs. Sometimes in the crazy TiT systems a commercial supply is installed even tho it goes ultimately to residential.. So the costs are commercial costs.. Its just another example of how corruption, confusion and poor logic makes a fine mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Can anybody assist with current pricing for domestic usage ? 1.1.2 Consumption exceeding 150 KWh. per month Service charge: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40.90 First 150 KWh. (0 - 150th) . . . . . . 1.8047 Next 250 KWh. (151st - 400th) . . . 2.7781 Over 400 KWh. (401st - up) . . . . . . 2.9780 + FT ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=FT ) + 7% tax. http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Looking at the bill for our 3 phase house, basic price comes to 2.941/unit, then a surcharge of .9255/unit, then VAT on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Can somebody explain the huge differencies in price charged per unit (other than greed!)Are there any genuine reasons why some properties are charged more than others by the power supplier, as opposed to the landlord? The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters. A 5/15 meter, sufficient to run one aircon or one hotwater (but not at the same time!!) has a low unit price, while a 100 Amp meter is 4 baht/kwh (unit). a temp meter, like in projects no one want to pay for perm meters, unit price is over 6 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I pay 8 baht However, I don't pay for water and there is a management firm that takes care of everything for me. yes, I know I overpay by about 2baht and it can add up, but once I factor in the "freebies" and water, along with my minimal consumption, it works for me since I only rent a 1 bedroom. Part of my charge covers common areas I think and it includes taxes, If I was in a nice house like the grownups in here, I'd be demanding a reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Never heard of a 5/15 meter but can see some logic in that for low end Thai housing.. After having no bill for a year (my house was just wired in without a meter) they fitted a project meter.. And the landlord is sorting it out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Can somebody explain the huge differencies in price charged per unit (other than greed!)Are there any genuine reasons why some properties are charged more than others by the power supplier, as opposed to the landlord? The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters. A 5/15 meter, sufficient to run one aircon or one hotwater (but not at the same time!!) has a low unit price, while a 100 Amp meter is 4 baht/kwh (unit). a temp meter, like in projects no one want to pay for perm meters, unit price is over 6 baht. "The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters". Really? What bill are you paying? If the bill is direct from the PEA, you will be paying the fixed rates that I posted before, irrespective of the type of meter. If you are paying someone else, you could pay anything that is in the contract. Edited July 21, 2009 by JetsetBkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Can somebody explain the huge differencies in price charged per unit (other than greed!)Are there any genuine reasons why some properties are charged more than others by the power supplier, as opposed to the landlord? The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters. A 5/15 meter, sufficient to run one aircon or one hotwater (but not at the same time!!) has a low unit price, while a 100 Amp meter is 4 baht/kwh (unit). a temp meter, like in projects no one want to pay for perm meters, unit price is over 6 baht. "The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters". Really? What bill are you paying? If the bill is direct from the PEA, you will be paying the fixed rates that I posted before, irrespective of the type of meter. If you are paying someone else, you could pay anything that is in the contract. Not true.. 3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Edited July 21, 2009 by LivinLOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Can somebody explain the huge differencies in price charged per unit (other than greed!)Are there any genuine reasons why some properties are charged more than others by the power supplier, as opposed to the landlord? The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters. A 5/15 meter, sufficient to run one aircon or one hotwater (but not at the same time!!) has a low unit price, while a 100 Amp meter is 4 baht/kwh (unit). a temp meter, like in projects no one want to pay for perm meters, unit price is over 6 baht. "The power supplyer charges different prices for different meters". Really? What bill are you paying? If the bill is direct from the PEA, you will be paying the fixed rates that I posted before, irrespective of the type of meter. If you are paying someone else, you could pay anything that is in the contract. Not true.. 3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. And single phase 5/15 A. which is LOS most common meter. Runs TV, fridge, fans, light. Everyone countryside has this. Cheapest unit price 10/30 A. most common in developments like Phuket Villa 1-5, Dowrong, California etc 15/45 A Farang exclusive starts here 30/60. 30/100 A All the above are government meters payed directly to government with different unitprices depending on which meter you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeF Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thanks this all really helps ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidHouston Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 And single phase5/15 A. which is LOS most common meter. Runs TV, fridge, fans, light. Everyone countryside has this. Cheapest unit price 10/30 A. most common in developments like Phuket Villa 1-5, Dowrong, California etc 15/45 A Farang exclusive starts here 30/60. 30/100 A All the above are government meters payed directly to government with different unitprices depending on which meter you have. My meters says "30(100)". Is that the same as "30/100 A" and what is its difference in capacity vs "10/30 A" listed above? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 And single phase5/15 A. which is LOS most common meter. Runs TV, fridge, fans, light. Everyone countryside has this. Cheapest unit price 10/30 A. most common in developments like Phuket Villa 1-5, Dowrong, California etc 15/45 A Farang exclusive starts here 30/60. 30/100 A All the above are government meters payed directly to government with different unitprices depending on which meter you have. My meters says "30(100)". Is that the same as "30/100 A" and what is its difference in capacity vs "10/30 A" listed above? Thanks. 30(100) A is a very large single phase meter. 100 Amp at 220 Volt is 22 Kwatt. Sufficient to run 10 aircons, hotwater, poolpumps, stove you name it. Your intake cables should be 25mm2 in air or 35mm2 copper underground to cope with this power. More than 3 times capacity vs 10(30)A, which is 6,6 Kwatt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf But my point is.. Your normal house in Phuket can be connected to any of these.. I have had all the above in my time on Phuket. And thats without the capacity meter issues all given to residential homes as listed directly above.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbat Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf The link for the Residential Schedule is out of date. The last update was December 2007. I think tariffs have gone up a bit since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf The link for the Residential Schedule is out of date. The last update was December 2007. I think tariffs have gone up a bit since then. 20-30%. As I said a single phase government 100 Amp meter is now 4,04 baht/unit incl Ft and VAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf But my point is.. Your normal house in Phuket can be connected to any of these.. I have had all the above in my time on Phuket. And thats without the capacity meter issues all given to residential homes as listed directly above.. My experience is different. I've stayed in 5 places in Phuket. In Patong I rented a penthouse and the electricity was included in the rent, so I don't know what the rate was. In the other 4 houses, the electricity charge was at the residential rate. I think if anyone is being charged at a different rate for a purely residential dwelling, then they need to take it up with the PEA. One of those other rates on the PEA website is for "business-cum-residential". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf The link for the Residential Schedule is out of date. The last update was December 2007. I think tariffs have gone up a bit since then. Yes, the last update was December 2007. No, the residential rates haven't changed 1 satang since 2006. What has changed is the FT - it goes up and down like a tarts drawers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 20-30%. As I said a single phase government 100 Amp meter is now 4,04 baht/unit incl Ft and VAT. 0% change. If you give more details of the units used and cost, I can tell you what rate you're on. Providing an average of 4.04 makes it impossible for me to work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not true..3 phase grouped supplies commercial supplies development meters normal home Thats 5 grades I can think of right now.. Yes, you are correct. I presumed he was still talking about domestic supplies on different meters. The link to the Residential schedule ( http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential ) has a drop down menu to all 8 tariffs. There is even a downloadable PDF file with details of all the tariffs: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/downloadable/e...ricityrates.pdf But my point is.. Your normal house in Phuket can be connected to any of these.. I have had all the above in my time on Phuket. And thats without the capacity meter issues all given to residential homes as listed directly above.. My experience is different. I've stayed in 5 places in Phuket. In Patong I rented a penthouse and the electricity was included in the rent, so I don't know what the rate was. In the other 4 houses, the electricity charge was at the residential rate. I think if anyone is being charged at a different rate for a purely residential dwelling, then they need to take it up with the PEA. One of those other rates on the PEA website is for "business-cum-residential". Which residential rate ?? The rate your billed depends on the meter.. You want a different rate, pay the install costs on a new meter.. Its cheaper for my landlord to pay the difference between 4 baht and the billed price than it is to have the ne meter installed for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 After tax, surchage, VAT, yada yada yada, I come out at 4.14/unit on 3 phase and the biggest meter that is available, and I'm a serious mid 4 digit unit user per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 20-30%. As I said a single phase government 100 Amp meter is now 4,04 baht/unit incl Ft and VAT. 0% change. If you give more details of the units used and cost, I can tell you what rate you're on. Providing an average of 4.04 makes it impossible for me to work it out. You may say the price for electricity has not changed, but since its not possible to purchase electricity without the constant increasing Ft, the total price of electricity on my PEA bills have increased with 18 % from June 2007 to june 2009. At least for my 4 properties in Phuket. But I m not complaining. Its reasonable. If I run a fridge, tv, fan and waterpump like they do countryside, its almost free. For my largest house with 10 aircons I have to pay 4,04 baht/unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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