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ok, i admit it, i binge, i dont drink a drop then i go mad,about every 2 weeks ( it takes me that long to get over it ! ) however i am always in control not drunk and sleep ok, although i dont get in til 5 am or so,.but i have almighty hangovers and for the next day i cant even get out of bed, its gotten worse,i used to recover in 2-3 days tops, now its at least a week, i feel totally drained, its much worse if i drink beer for some reason, so i drink jack/coke,.im great on the night, never throw up and COULD drive ok, ( but i dont ). any ideas ? thanks,ps ive tried all the normal advice, loads of water before bed, a hair of the dog, ! no way, :)

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ok, i admit it, i binge, i dont drink a drop then i go mad,about every 2 weeks ( it takes me that long to get over it ! ) however i am always in control not drunk and sleep ok, although i dont get in til 5 am or so,.but i have almighty hangovers and for the next day i cant even get out of bed, its gotten worse,i used to recover in 2-3 days tops, now its at least a week, i feel totally drained, its much worse if i drink beer for some reason, so i drink jack/coke,.im great on the night, never throw up and COULD drive ok, ( but i dont ). any ideas ? thanks,ps ive tried all the normal advice, loads of water before bed, a hair of the dog, ! no way, :)

I remember in the army, after having a binge, the morning started with a drink.

The same we stopped the evening with.

It always worked.

Worth a try.

If not, you might consider a temporary halt?

Or, just endure your week long hangover.

Cheers

Edited by hansnl
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It's happening to me also.It's gotten so bad that I only drink heavy maybe only 3 or 4 times A year anymore.I think it has something to do with age.but i'm only guessing.

Is there A doctor in the house?

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sounds like your livers giving up

Agree with waza,give it a rest :)

A simple inexpensive blood test will reveal all - LFT (Liver Function Test will show the AST level, indicator of alcohol), Urea and Electrolytes (Us&Es your bodies ability to excrete waste), Calcium Magnesium Phosphate (CAMG). You may also need to take some Vitamin B1. Hope you recover.

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ok, i admit it, i binge, i dont drink a drop then i go mad,about every 2 weeks ( it takes me that long to get over it ! ) however i am always in control not drunk and sleep ok, although i dont get in til 5 am or so,.but i have almighty hangovers and for the next day i cant even get out of bed, its gotten worse,i used to recover in 2-3 days tops, now its at least a week, i feel totally drained, its much worse if i drink beer for some reason, so i drink jack/coke,.im great on the night, never throw up and COULD drive ok, ( but i dont ). any ideas ? thanks,ps ive tried all the normal advice, loads of water before bed, a hair of the dog, ! no way, :)

Any more than 2 singhas 3 jack daniels in 1-2 hours and you are drunk. You excrete a small bottle of singha every hour, or one small daniels every hour. you can't drive OK if you drink more than this, you are a danger to yourself and everyone else. Don't get me wrong. I drink but don't then drive

Since you don't say how much you drink in one episode it is difficult to say how long you should take to recover. I've never taken more than 2 days at the worst, normally feel OK the following afternoon. You may be damaging your liver /kidneys severely. have you been to have them checked?

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I seem to develop a resistence to hangovers if i'm drinking regularly. Like if i go on a bit of a drinking holiday with mates i might suffer after the first night out but then after that i can drink what i like and not feel anything other than mildly fuzzy the next morning.

I know that if i didn't touch a drop for two weeks and then went on a bender i would suffer terribly like you - maybe not 8 days but a good day and a half, two days.

Your answer might therefore be to either give up altogether or drink a bit more regularly - not binge drink i mean but just the occasional beer throughout the week to build up some sort of tolerance. I'm sure the medics and teetotalers on this forum will be quick to shoot me down though. :)

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It's happening to me also.It's gotten so bad that I only drink heavy maybe only 3 or 4 times A year anymore.I think it has something to do with age.but i'm only guessing.

Is there A doctor in the house?

well it has got worse, but ive had it for 30 years :)
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I seem to develop a resistence to hangovers if i'm drinking regularly. Like if i go on a bit of a drinking holiday with mates i might suffer after the first night out but then after that i can drink what i like and not feel anything other than mildly fuzzy the next morning.

I know that if i didn't touch a drop for two weeks and then went on a bender i would suffer terribly like you - maybe not 8 days but a good day and a half, two days.

Your answer might therefore be to either give up altogether or drink a bit more regularly - not binge drink i mean but just the occasional beer throughout the week to build up some sort of tolerance. I'm sure the medics and teetotalers on this forum will be quick to shoot me down though. :)

i dont think they will as drink im told in moderation is fine, i must i admit had a beer and a half last week on a lunchtime and an hour later i felt terrible, thats true, with beer it really does me in,.
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ok, i admit it, i binge, i dont drink a drop then i go mad,about every 2 weeks ( it takes me that long to get over it ! ) however i am always in control not drunk and sleep ok, although i dont get in til 5 am or so,.but i have almighty hangovers and for the next day i cant even get out of bed, its gotten worse,i used to recover in 2-3 days tops, now its at least a week, i feel totally drained, its much worse if i drink beer for some reason, so i drink jack/coke,.im great on the night, never throw up and COULD drive ok, ( but i dont ). any ideas ? thanks,ps ive tried all the normal advice, loads of water before bed, a hair of the dog, ! no way, :)

Any more than 2 singhas 3 jack daniels in 1-2 hours and you are drunk. You excrete a small bottle of singha every hour, or one small daniels every hour. you can't drive OK if you drink more than this, you are a danger to yourself and everyone else. Don't get me wrong. I drink but don't then drive

Since you don't say how much you drink in one episode it is difficult to say how long you should take to recover. I've never taken more than 2 days at the worst, normally feel OK the following afternoon. You may be damaging your liver /kidneys severely. have you been to have them checked?

yep, had all the blood tests, nothing found, i have asked on this forum as in the uk the doctor just said to me "well dont drink ". but to be honest i like to go out and it helps me get in the mood, i dont like discos etc sober, thanks for all the advice so far,... :D
Posted
sounds like your livers giving up

Agree with waza,give it a rest :)

A simple inexpensive blood test will reveal all - LFT (Liver Function Test will show the AST level, indicator of alcohol), Urea and Electrolytes (Us&Es your bodies ability to excrete waste), Calcium Magnesium Phosphate (CAMG). You may also need to take some Vitamin B1. Hope you recover.

thanks, yes ive had all that and even a 7 day urine test that was sent to a specialist in singapore, results, nothing untoward, the only thing in all the tess i have had is that im low on potassium,.
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:)

The normal hangover should not last more that 48 hours. If it does then it is a posible indicator of a potential problem.

Like an car with a part on the way to failure, the faster you drive it, the more stress you put on it, and the closer it comes to a critical failure.

Alchohol puts "stress" on all the systems of your body, so any system with problems devloping is pushed closer to failure.

The normal areas that are harmed by alchohol are the liver, the kidneys, and the heart.

Alchohol dehydrates the body and lowers the blood sugar levels.

If you are a pre-diabetic it can cause your blood sugar levels to vary and in that way affect your insulin levels. High or low insulin levels, or insulin levels that vary too much can affect you badly.

The best thing you can do is stop drinking. It's hard, but it is the best thing you can do.

You need to keep track of your blood pressure. Alchohol can also raise your blood pressure. Long term high blood pressure can harm a lot of systems in your body. It can also cause headaches. Therefore a alchohol binge can raise your blood pressure to a point where you get headaches...which you may interpret as a 'hangover".

You need to have a fasting insulin test...to check if you are diabetic or pre-diabetic. They make you fast for 24 hours and then check your insulin level and comapre it to your normal insulin levels. If it drops to much it is an indication of a diabetic condition.

But the most important thing is to get to a doctor and tell him about these extended "hangovers".

You will probaly need blood workups and a blood electrolyte test. They may want to give you a small amount of alchohol to see how your liver and kidneys react, and check your blood and urine results to that achohol.

And extended hangover is not a "minor" problem.

:D

Edited by IMA_FARANG
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so i drink jack/coke,. :)

could be ...but admit to enjoy a swallow or 2 every day...lifes too short ....but the worse is a 12 hour ...jesu Cristo.(not often .got sensible.honest..and usually OK afterwards ......7 days however sound bad...and me thinks you know.....good luck..

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take some milk thistle (silymarin)-

studies on the effect of silymarin on toxic liver damage (mostly induced by alcohol), chronic liver disease and disease caused by certain drugs have been reviewed by medical experts. They concluded that basic lab and clinical data suggests silymarin is a therapeutically useful medicinal plant product that stabilizes the cell membrane and stimulates protein synthesis, while accelerating the process of regeneration in damaged liver tissue, and that these effects are important in the therapeutic efficacy of silymarin.

buy it over the counter in almost any pharmacy in bangkok, its pharmaceutical name is Legalon 70. A strip of 10 capsules costs 95 baht in my local pharmacy.

Legalon 70 is a medicine acting on the liver - Reinforces the regenerative capacity and functional efficiency of the liver Legalon is the outcome of several decades of intensive research by Madaus. It is entirely of plant origin and is manufactured in the form of a dry extract from the fruits of the milk thistle. The active ingredient is silymarin, with its principal active component silibinin. Extensive research into this extract over the last 20 years has conclusively proved that this extract is beneficial in protecting and detoxifying the liver. Medicines of plant origin are in general well tolerated, and this is certainly true of Legalon.

I recommend anyone who feels they drink to much to try using this medicine.

Edited by matt888
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The answer is in your question. You say you have a real binge every two weeks or so.

The sudden shock of alcohol to the body is giving you the bad hangover. Although in a healthy person the hangover should only last 48-60 hours maximum.

Get your LFT's done (about 500 baht maximum) at a clinic then post them up on this forum and the bad hangovers will be medically explained.

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I never had a hangover again? Why I don't know, some people have it some not. I only once, drinked so much, I had to throw out all night long. After that, I got immuun for the stuff.

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