Iq Of Thai Children To Be Improved

[kat]

Toxin will issue a decree to add 15 points to all tests.

Presto!

Headline: "Thais Most Intelligent in Asia"[/SIZE]

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LOL

Good one. And not too far fetched.

My friend is a teacher and is constattly being harased to change grades as the offical school policy is every child must get at least a B.

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I thought the official policy was that no child could fail. Is it a policy of your friend's particular school?

[Sphere]

Toxin will issue a decree to add 15 points to all tests.

Presto!

Headline: "Thais Most Intelligent in Asia"[/SIZE]

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Followed by "Thai's have world's largest brains"

Edited March 3, 2005 by Sphere

[Kringle]

also not aslo

I think aslo and alos ar common typing errors of also? Same with a casion instead of casino. Something to do with the speed of information from the brain to certain fingers?

Nothing positive to say Kringle?

GET A GRIP

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Everyone does it once in awhile, nothing meant by it (too much) and I do sincerely wish you the best of luck in your future.

BOL, Kringle

[mcfester]

We still haven't talked about stupid TV dramas, game shows and Internet gaming here.  All of these are the real killers.

Golf

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I was watching MTV the other week, it was a live stage show in BKK, a female presenter did what must be her party trick, she put some talc powder on a glass table, with a credit card split it into two lines about six inch long, then sniffed up one line, had a drink of water, another presenter laughing said in Engilsh "Don't try this at home", then the female presenter sniffed the other line to the applause of the audience.

Great TV for the Thai kids.......

[RDN]

We still haven't talked about stupid TV dramas, game shows and Internet gaming here.  All of these are the real killers.

Golf

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I was watching MTV the other week, it was a live stage show in BKK, a female presenter did what must be her party trick, she put some talc powder on a glass table, with a credit card split it into two lines about six inch long, then sniffed up one line, had a drink of water, another presenter laughing said in English "Don't try this at home", then the female presenter sniffed the other line to the applause of the audience.

Great TV for the Thai kids.......

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Appalling - the presenter would be sacked if they did that in England. Even on Channel 4.

[PeaceBlondie]

Toxin will issue a decree to add 15 points to all tests.

Presto!

Headline:"Thais Most Intelligent in Asia"

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But the point of the original news article is that even the bureaucrats in the Thai govt. can only get the IQ score to FALL from 92 to 89. What if the real scores fell from 85 to 80? I wouldn't doubt it at all.

If they are rapidly expanding the sample size from the elite children to more average Thais, the scores might fall. That's what happened to the American SAT scale, first developed among Ivy League-bound scholars in the late 1940's, then expanded to millions of ordinary kids trying to get into easy state universities. They finally adjusted all the SAT scores so it wouldn't look so bad.

The Standard Deviation on most IQ scales is between 12 and 16, so it's reasonable to assume that Thai children are at LEAST one SD below the international mean.

However, none of this means anything. THERE ARE NO STATISTICS IN THAILAND The Thais don't know how to measure things. You can get master's degree in Thai universities without knowing the second thing about statistical measurements. How much does a condo in Khon Kaen sell for, per square foot? What is the real, actual, authentic, true population of Chiang Mai province? Nobody knows, least of all the Thai government. What should a 2001 Toyota Camry V-6 with 39,000 km sell for in Bangkok? What's the average age of any group of Thai professionals? Again, nobody knows, nobody in Thailand could ever possibly know. There are no statistics in Thailand; they just make the numbers up.

[konangrit]

Funny you say that, I've often typed casino as casion. See "teh" instead of "the" alot too. Just common typos.

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"A lot" is two words, btw. Very common mistake. As well as the word "definitely," which is often seen as definately or something similar.

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Lol, "alot" was actually a typo, but thanks for pointing out that I've been spelling definitely wrong for all these years.

[meadish_sweetball]

Spelling is unrelated to other types of intelligence. Plenty of the most successful people in the world were fully or partially dyslexic.

The suggested measures, including the variable continuity, would inevitably change the IQ in this country for the better.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Spelling is unrelated to other types of intelligence. Plenty of the most successful people in the world were fully or partially dyslexic.

The suggested measures, including the variable continuity, would inevitably change the IQ in this country for the better.

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KO

[kat]

... If they are rapidly expanding the sample size from the elite children to more average Thais, the scores might fall.  That's what happened to the American SAT scale, first developed among Ivy League-bound scholars in the late 1940's, then expanded to millions of ordinary kids trying to get into easy state universities.  They finally adjusted all the SAT scores so it wouldn't look so bad.

The Standard Deviation on most IQ scales is between 12 and 16, so it's reasonable to assume that Thai children are at LEAST one SD below the international mean ...

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Sorry to resurrect this thread 5 days later, but I wanted to respond to Blondie's post before getting distracted again. SAT scores have been linked and converted to IQ scores, even though the test authorities try to distance themselves from the question of measuring IQ. However, most intelligence researchers agree that the SAT is an IQ test. There is no doubt that scores can and are improved on the SAT through expensive prep programs. This has been true for decades, and I have personally seen many examples to this effect. It is also true that there is an undeniable correlation between class and scores: students from higher income brackets do better on the tests. Scores have also increased or decreased depending on additional education or time away from school. It's obvious then that IQ scores are not entirely fixed or genetic. Here are a couple of interesting links that discuss the mitigating factors of IQ measurement:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._29/ai_90390644

http://www.i2osig.org/test.html

http://cms.psychologytoday.com/articles/pt...701-000024.html

Cheers.

Edit - added link.

Edited March 14, 2005 by kat

[meadish_sweetball]

... If they are rapidly expanding the sample size from the elite children to more average Thais, the scores might fall.  That's what happened to the American SAT scale, first developed among Ivy League-bound scholars in the late 1940's, then expanded to millions of ordinary kids trying to get into easy state universities.  They finally adjusted all the SAT scores so it wouldn't look so bad.

The Standard Deviation on most IQ scales is between 12 and 16, so it's reasonable to assume that Thai children are at LEAST one SD below the international mean ...

Sorry to resurrect this thread 5 days later, but I wanted to respond to Blondie's post before getting distracted again. SAT scores have been linked and converted to IQ scores, even though the test authorities try to distance themselves from the question of measuring IQ. However, most intelligence researchers agree that the SAT is an IQ test. There is no doubt that scores can and are improved on the SAT through expensive prep programs. This has been true for decades, and I have personally seen many examples to this effect. It is also true that there is an undeniable correlation between class and scores: students from higher income brackets do better on the tests. Scores have also increased or decreased depending on additional education or time away from school. It's obvious then that IQ scores are not entirely fixed or genetic. Here are a couple of interesting links that discuss the mitigating factors of IQ measurement:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._29/ai_90390644

http://www.i2osig.org/test.html

http://cms.psychologytoday.com/articles/pt...701-000024.html

Cheers.

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All very valid points KAT. I think the following might have something to do with the difference in scores between different income groups.

1. The people making the tests are not likely to come from socially disadvantaged families so the questions in the tests may and probably do reflect that fact.

2. In a "problem family", discussions of abstract concepts and training in critical thinking are less likely to occur. A less stable upbringing may make you strong, independent and innovative, but can also make you un unstable person.

3. Intelligence as a genetical trait is more likely to thrive among richer people than poor people. If you are intelligent you are less likely to end up poor than if you are not. This doesnt mean rich people are smart and poor people are dumb, of course it is more complicated than that, but the general tendency should be correct.

[kat]

Meadish:

You also raise good points, but I have a bit of a problem with point 3. Of course, you say "generally", and acknowledge some of the complications, but many people do not.

Point 3 is mostly valid when all things are equal, but in most cases all things are not equal, even when we control for IQ (the history of race and class in America is a perfect example). Also, point 3 is a bit of a classist premise in and of itself, because there are people who inherit wealth and the advantages that go along with it. In many cases this is much more significant than IQ. Therefore, how can you reasonably compare the intelligence of a wealthy person in this situation, and a poor person who may have overcome more obstacles that are not measured on a test? There is also a history of intellegentsia in almost every society that are not among the wealthiest.

Edited March 15, 2005 by kat