Need professional web designer

[monitorlizard]

My wife and I are starting a business and we will need a web designer and a content writer.

We can either pay a one time fee or hire you on as an employee with a possible work permit. We can discuss this later. Preference will be given to those with experience. Designer must know Dreamweaver, Flash, Photoshop 7, and know how to set up e-commerce site (shopping cart, fill in forms/registration, etc.) and be willing to train owner.

Sorry, but preference will be given to those who have business experience in this field. We do not want a free web site host. The web site must look professional.

Please send CV, references, along with your designed web site(s) addresses. Business will be based in Bangkok.

Thanks

[email protected]

[camster]

Hi Monitorlizard

I sent an e-mail with my credentials to you. Please let me know if you never got it. Thanks

Cam

[monitorlizard]

Yes Cam, I received your message. Thank you very much. Some of you have expressed concerns using "Flash" in terms of the web visiter waiting for the site to load. This does make sense to me. Most of the vistors will be from the US, Canada, and Europe but I do agree with you that a quick loading website should be of the highest priority. I am striving to have a web site that does not have the appearance of dullness, hence the importance of appearing professional.

Thanks everyone for responding to my announcement. I will be very busy the next few days so please be patient with me in responding back to you.

Some of you asked about the site's content. I don't wish to disclose too much on an open forum but it will be a Thai owned and a Thai registered company.

I will disclose more when I contact the professional web site designers who have sent me their CV's.

Again thank you very much.

[stuccy]

monitorlizard i just send you an email to [email protected] hope you recieved.

thank

[monitorlizard]

Sorry about not writing back to the people who have sent me an email. I don't think that I will be able to respond for a couple of more weeks.

We just had a baby and the most pecious commodity at the moment is sleep.

I will get organized and begin emailing. However, I do need to point out that I am based in Bangkok and I will need to meet the webdesigner in person.

Please do not waste my time or your time if you are not a professional and do not have veriable work history. I am saying this because I had one "webdesigner"???? speak to me and his stuff came from the frees sites.

[blabla]

hello,

I precise the "web developper" who send you free sites is not me, but as soon as ebusiness is involved, with scripting in PHP, the use of SSL, multi paiement gateways, shopping cart, customers account, the fact to use a "free" site or not change nothing.

Nor yahoo nor geocities give you really this kind of features, if a web developper use is smart enough to find a place where the hosting is free (I assume this is what you mean by free) you just have to consider his work, not how much he pay to host it's work.

Now free can have many signification (meanings?), as Erain I always advice my customers to use Open Source Software if I don't have skills/time to develop something by myself, it mean they don't pay a dim in more for the program, but they will pay for the features they need, in more like the source code is free, I will work only if I have the real skills, no bullshitts allowed, and if I am not skilled enough, then they can easily kick me and find another IT geek.

Now, if the fact to pay a lot for a proprietary solution make you confortable, you have always the possibility to contact www.microsoft.com, they sell a e_business solution (expensive one) at least you will contribute by your money to help them for the Window 98 debugging (I recently heard it could be finish for 2095, and they will cal it Win 95 free) smile.

Also about professional, take a look on the leaders of the market, Ebay (personnal selling) or amazon (book selling), let me know if they use intensively Flash? Do you know Flash have some securities holes, can you set up a shop with that?

Well, I would like to say I will look forward to hear from you, and work with you, but I don't think you will like me after this post, but if I did not typed it I will feel like absolutely not professional, a "web developper" is also someone who can advice his customer.

Best regards

Eric

[phazey]

monitorlizard:

I can't do webpages for peanuts, but i noticed your criteria for successful applicants. Surely it would be best to leave the tool choice to the Designer's themselves - Dreamweaver - ew... etc etc.. Flash granted - thats proprietary. Photoshop 7 - a great product, but how about the designers who do not use a windows/mac platform ("the GIMP" comes to mind....). Unless of course - as you said "willing to train the owner" this is a tech transfer after the initial design/content managment system is up. Perhaps emphasis on "not a long term contract" might be mentioned..

As for eCommerce - check out http://www.freshmeat.net and do a search (it's a unix repository site) there are many frameworks for ecommerce engines that can be easily modified to suit your styles/needs - in the sence the hard work has already been done..

Anyways, I wish you all the best in your venture and hope it's a successful one in this IT paranoid age.

./P

[monitorlizard]

Found some time to check my email. I guess I need to clarify a little of my earlier message. As we all know, there are a lot of people in LOS that have re-invented themselves. Some might have been living on the dole for the last 10 years with a few side jobs of parking cars as a valet at a posh restaurant on the weekends. After they arrive in LOS, they are a genius programmer but after I look at their sites, I shake my head. They use the free web building kits offered by geocities. Yet, they are so proud of their work and claim it took hours and hours of HTML programming. Yeah right.

It has been pointed out that I want to receive some training so the site can be turned over to me at a later date. Yes this is correct.

I am working on the pages now and I am about 60% finished. Anyway, I will contact the tech geeks later. I must point out that I will not be paying western prices but I will be paying higher than the Thais. Of course the person must really know his stuff!

[camster]

Hi Monitorlizard

You hit the nail right on the head when you talk about these self proclaimed, designers, developers, wizards who buy some pirated software for their computer, quit their busboy job and announce their "professional services". I would also like to take this a step further as a lot of "webdesigners" know there technical stuff really well and can make a visa logo spin, pictures fly, and backgrounds hit you in the head. The problem is a lot of these people are in no way "webdesigners" but rather "webuilders". The site they build might work but if that spinning logo is so obtrusive it hypnotizes you, or the background is so busy you cant find the text leave alone read it...welll then what good is the site. A website is basically a virtual store front, if it looks like #### chances are the customer will go next door regardless if the product or services are top notch. On the other hand there's designers that can make a site look very slick but technically may be very slow or not function properly. I think the key is to define your objectives, plan a site map, write your pages. Then you should be able define the technical objectives and the best way to obtain these objectives. If the e-commerce or other parts of the site is complex the best approach is to have a webdesigner create the shell (look of the pages, navigation bar etc.) and have a webprogrammer handle database, e-commerce, and other programming issues. If the site is straight forward with a typical shopping cart, e-commerce scheme, then you should be able to find an experienced and qualified webdesigner who can handle the whole job competently. Finally if you are planning on eventually taking over all hands on aspects of your site i would try to keep it simple with opportunity to grow and expand the services and capabilities as you go. Just my two cents. Thanks

Cam

[monitorlizard]

Thanks for your input Cam! You made a lot of very good points. The market will directed at Europe, US, Australia, and Canada so I imagine most people are connected to the high speed internet. However, I do not want anyone to wait long periods of time for the pages to load. I was thinking of a few pictures to brighten up the site. But perhaps I should re-think this.

Yes, I agree with you 100% about "flashy" designs. I do want something simple with a shopping cart that accepts different currencies. Have you heard of PaySystems?

I am getting closer to finish the rough draft of my pages, publication of my material, and buiness licenses.

I feel that my project will work after some time but I do not want to spend a "wad" getting the site up.

You gave me a big laugh about the whiz programmers with the pirated software. The person who has been trying to sell me his services does just this! I don't know who to feel sorry for.....the people who get hoodwinked into paying for his services or the guy himself......he really thinks he is great!

I have seen his web sites and they are a plain background with 5-6 links to information pages.

I am not an expert but it looks like it took 30 minutes to set up. He swears that the HTML is very complex and it takes him several weeks! Also, he adds that he is one of the very few programmers that knows the secrets of HTML.  TIT!!! Note he doesn't have any background in computers nor work experience in this field. Perhaps he took an advanced course in high school (his highest academic achievement) but I doubt it very much!

[thomasjojo]

On the other hand there's designers that can make a site look very slick but technically may be very slow or not function properly. I think the key is to define your objectives, plan a site map, write your pages. Then you should be able define the technical objectives and the best way to obtain these objectives. If the e-commerce or other parts of the site is complex the best approach is to have a webdesigner create the shell (look of the pages, navigation bar etc.) and have a webprogrammer handle database, e-commerce, and other programming issues. If the site is straight forward with a typical shopping cart, e-commerce scheme, then you should be able to find an experienced and qualified webdesigner who can handle the whole job competently. Finally if you are planning on eventually taking over all hands on aspects of your site i would try to keep it simple with opportunity to grow and expand the services and capabilities as you go. Just my two cents. Thanks

Cam

There is webdesigners, and there is web designers. Adn then you have Information Architects, Usability designers, graphic designers, content managers, strategists, etc etc..

But what to choose? Depend on your budget. I remember before 2001, and still some places, we use all of them, and if you ask me why, I can tell you all.

The succsess on the net depends on rebility, userfriendliness and of course REAL products. That people want, need or just urge to have.

A fancy logo does not sell your product. A well working site does. A well working site is much more than a technical working PHP run SQL database with some CSS showing you the stuff you want to sell. Its also about to know what to do on the net.

For those who wonder, I have worked with this for more than 7 years.

www.taon.no/cv/

A web designer should know all this aspects, or they shouldnt call them self a professional. But there is of course specialists within fields.

And as CAM says, you want to run it. Then you probably want to add more products later. So then you should have a pubishing system thou, and.. so on.

Just call me, I can help you. I sent you my CV. Take care.

[thomasjojo]

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what?! I feel sorry for THAT guy, and the PPL he fool.

HTML is NOT complex at ALL!

there is by the way milions of people that 'know' HTML. HTML is easy and fun, and kids play. its the other aspects thats matter..

if you really want to succssed with your site, use a bit more effort /resources than that guy.

I would like to see that sites he talks about...

__________________

ps: sorry about spell mistakes, I am not a native English speaker..

[penelope]

Also, he adds that he is one of the very few programmers that knows the secrets of HTML.  TIT!!! Note he doesn't have any background in computers nor work experience in this field. Perhaps he took an advanced course in high school (his highest academic achievement) but I doubt it very much!

anyone who writes html, php, javascript, perl, css etc...and calls themselves PROGRAMMERS needs to be shot. Markup languages and scripting lanaguages are "interpreted", programming laguages are "compiled".

[francois]

hi'

just take a look at my site, and tell me what you think

I'm not a "so-called" professional, but I have some skills, and I use them

ps; Dreamweaver since version2 .. prefer Fireworks to photoshop for web-work

flash, no-go ... too unsecure

[penelope]

hi'

just take a look at my site, and tell me what you think

I'm not a "so-called" professional, but I have some skills, and I use them

ps; Dreamweaver since version2 .. prefer Fireworks to photoshop for web-work

flash, no-go ... too unsecure

1) the spelling is atrocious

2) the grammar is atrocious

3) the website looks like something a child did in 1996

Hardware and software require an attention to detail.How does a website with spelling and grammar errors convey this to your potential customers ??

[Pink Mist]

one day you might write something positive penny.

[penelope]

one day you might write something positive penny.

the guy asked for feedback.I gave it.If it is heeded, he can improve his site, and hopefully improve his business. I'm not politically correct, I'm a hard bastard and will tell it like it is, straight to the point.

[blabla]

hello,

Someone explain us poor silly people what is the difference btw a scripting language, and a real programming (machine language?) language... for that after more than 25 years behind a computer I would like to thanks her I have learn something.

I was thinking object language (C, C++, Java, Perl, Lips, schem and other) are a programming language, compilate oe interprating is only where the language will act, will be understood where it will take memory and CPU time ... something like that.

Funny, but today I don't need to use correct englis... I just need to be incorrect.

Whatever, if you use a advanced language (object oriented) to create a programm (PHPMySQL for exemple) I think we can use to call it programmation language, you can find many exemple of that in the free world.

Maybe are you a win addict, and pray every evening the God VB 6 ... who knows.

Eric

[monitorlizard]

I would like to thank everyone for emailing me regarding the website. I have found one designer and we are getting along quite well. Actually, I haven't met the guy but he will be arriving in LOS in a few days. Funny, I don't think he sleeps because he seems always online and making changes in seconds!

I will be asking (begging) for ThaiVisa for a plug as my business will NOT compete in anyway with them.

Anyway, thanks everyone.

[penelope]

hello,

Someone explain us poor silly people what is the difference btw a scripting language, and a real programming (machine language?) language... for that after more than 25 years behind a computer I would like to thanks her I have learn something.

I was thinking object language (C, C++, Java, Perl, Lips, schem and other) are a programming language, compilate oe interprating is only where the language will act, will be understood where it will take memory and CPU time ... something like that.

Funny, but today I don't need to use correct englis... I just need to be incorrect.

Whatever, if you use a advanced language (object oriented) to create a programm (PHPMySQL for exemple) I think we can use to call it programmation language, you can find many exemple of that in the free world.

Maybe are you a win addict, and pray every evening the God VB 6 ... who knows.

Eric

C = Procedural, NOT Object Oriented

Java, C++ = Procedural, Object Oriented

Perl = Scripted (although can be compiled)

LISP, SCHEME = Functional languages

Very briefly :

Programming langauges are :

1) written

2) parsed and compiled by a compiler into machine code (or BYTEcode in Java's case)

3) executed

Scripting langauges are :

1) written

2) interpreted at runtime

Many of the algorithm skills are similar in basic programming and scripting ie:control & conditional structures in Perl and C. I'd prefer to use the term "Coding" to refer to the art of wirting algorithms.But this is just subjective terminology.

OO langauges are hardly advanced, in fact 3rd generation langaues are designed to be less advanced.Coding in assembler is painstaking.

PHPMysql..now there's a new langauage ...haha.

PHP = scripting langauge (commonly used for small dynamic websites.Not robust and scalable enough for large distributed enterprise architectures.You need an enterprise platform such as .NET or J2EE to meet those requirements.)

MYSQL = Open Source (GPL) RDBMS (Relational Database Management System)

[Guest IT Manager]

Penny my wife just beat me for messing up our keyboard and I also have to wash my jeans and shirt.

What are you doing Friday.

[chartnah]

I'm late to the thread (new registrant here), but ###### has it right - a coffee alert is / was in order!

Penny / Penelope kicks ass!

I agree with all she said and wish monitorlizard (I believe I know what Thai phrase that alludes to - big magic!) the best of luck with his new venture(s) - babes, both!

One item of note that wasn't covered well in the responses is the ability to write coherently and cogently - he did imply he also wanted a capable content writer, I believe?

This is a non-trivial skill which, if lacking, will put off site visitors just as quickly as spinning / flaming logos which serve no purpose other than the vanity of a graphics propeller-head. (Observation: How many sites have we seen that were more of a pigeon-English JS-weenie's widget farm than a well-regarded commercial site with valuable products or services on offer? Most of them... by a wide margin.)

I believe the responses demonstrated this rather clearly, since clarity was, indeed, lacking in most.

Again, thanks to Penny for a great laugh and laudable explanation -- and good luck to monitorlizard in his business!

Regards, All

-cn

[exchange1973]

Hi there,

in addition to the posting of penelope:

Javacode will be compiled into BYTECODE, that is a virtual machine code for a virtual machine called JAVA_VM (JavaVirtualMachine). You may ask: why compiling into that code? Quite simple: This BYTECODE is independent from the platform (operating system). You can run this code on any system with a JAVA_VM. At runtime this BYTECODE will be interpreted for the system. In general you can run this code on Windows,Linux,Solaris...

OO -- objectoriented

an object will encapsulate attributes and methods. this paradigm allows to map 'real' objects on software. For example a car, a car has some attributes and some methods:

attributes:

Type

Color

Power of engine

length

....

methods:

accelerate

brake

....

So you can create a piece of software which has the same properties.

Regards

exchange1973

[sting02]

back,

as I have 3 mn and 17 sec to waste, I will play here

Penny, my dear , you wrote :

PHPMysql..now there's a new langauage ...haha.

PHP = scripting langauge (commonly used for small dynamic websites.Not robust and scalable enough for large distributed enterprise architectures.You need an enterprise platform such as .NET or J2EE to meet those requirements.)

PHPMySQL is not a new language, silly you, but a programm (ooooooooooooops it's in PHP then it's not a program) who give a GUI interface tp MySQL ... Sound like usefull.

langauge? gauge? wht you will mesure? your inability to speak correctly a language? don't compet with me I am the worst one:P

I agree about shithet ... for firm like micro$oft it's necessary, at least when someone use the Bill Gates Credit Card, it'smore easy to guest where the code are stocked ...

######, my time is over

kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssssssss Pennylane

[penelope]

Dont you mean PHPMyAdmin.Yes it is a useful DB Admin tool.I've contributed a small amount of code to the project, so I'm glad you like it. It is an open source collaboration, basically a bunch of scripted php files, some images and CSS files.You expand it, place it in a location that the PHP interpreter can locate it ie: your HTTP root, configure your webserver to invoke the PHP interpreter upon receiving an HTTP request for a php file etc....

So I wouldn't call PHPMyAdmin a program.It is a set of scripts that get HTTP requested and interpreted by the PHP interpreter(an EXE on windows).The PHP interpreter is a program, the PHP files that are part of PHPMyAdmin are just a set of uncompiled, plain text files.

[sting02]

you wrote : I've contributed a small amount of code to the project, so I'm glad you like it.

if yes I must suppose I know you, at least your name

whatever yes I like it, it's so boring for an old guy like me to send direct query to a SQL, more funny to use a GUI