Red Shirt Leader Arisman's Bail To Be Withdrawn

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ASEAN SUMMIT

Arisman's bail to be withdrawn if he leads protest again

By The Nation

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thuaugsuban said on Wednesday he will ask police to withdraw bail of red shirt leader Arisman Pongruengrong if he leads pro-Thaksin protesters to submit letter of complaint to Asean Summit leaders in any summit meetings.

Thailand will host the summit and its related summits in the Thai seaside resorts town of Cha-am and Hua Hin October 23 to 25. Suthep said he would raise the matter with acting national police chief Pol Gen Patheep Tanprasert.

Arisman, a former pop singer and ex-MP has announced that he will submit letter of complaint to Asean leaders during the summit.

In April, he led red shirted protesters to storm a Pattaya luxurious hotel whcih was hosting Asean Summit, forcing the government to cancel the meeting.

He later was arrested on charges of inciting the unrest in the cuntry. He was detained for three days before being released on bail.

Suthep said if Arisman still attempted to cause chaos and damage to the country, he will instruct the police to withdraw bail and arrest him.

Suthep also admitted that he has been informed of the moves to incite chaos during this weekend's summit.

"I urge Mr Arisman not to do anything to cause damage to the country," said Suthep, "He made so much trouble at the Pattaya summit, so he should think of the country and the Thai people."

-- The Nation 2009/10/21

[clausewitz]

Arisman's bail to be withdrawn if he leads protest again

By The Nation

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thuaugsuban said on Wednesday he will ask police to withdraw bail of red shirt leader Arisman Pongruengrong if he leads pro-Thaksin protesters to submit letter of complaint to Asean Summit leaders

Quite right we can agree that criminal charges have nothing to do with police and should aways come from the Democrats office.

One has to wonder about the name "police". How about "the ministers private grunts"

[TAWP]

Says the red-fan when other red-fans proudly proclaim that the police support their cause...

So the chance of them doing anything about this themselves are how high?

[hardy1943]

Says the red-fan when other red-fans proudly proclaim that the police support their cause...

So the chance of them doing anything about this themselves are how high?

THE BOYS IN BKK can start there own cartoon network,they are more then a joke

[Publicus]

Suthep's statement about indications that more "chaos" is in the pipeline for yet another ASEAN summit in Thailand is indeed ominous news. I can't imagine Asean leaders are looking forward to a repeat performance in the offing in the LOS. A repeat of Pattaya might indeed bring down the government even if at some point it were successfully quelled, which would be Thaksin's perfect storm in Thailand.

[hammered]

In many countries someone who had done what Arisaman did wouldnt be on bail

[givenall]

Says the red-fan when other red-fans proudly proclaim that the police support their cause...

So the chance of them doing anything about this themselves are how high?

THE BOYS IN BKK can start there own cartoon network,they are more then a joke

I guess we Falangs are naïve, After all this is Thailand

[h90]

In many countries someone who had done what Arisaman did wouldnt be on bail

I would say: in which countries he would not be in jail?

[mccw]

this guy should be in jail for what happened at the last summit, let alone revoking bail if if he do something else.

Does bail in this country mean your let go like a suspended sentance in uk, or is he still awaiting trail on some charges?

[dkstoney]

Wouldn't that be like Chancellor Alistair Darling or Vice President Joe Biden directing law enforcement to arrest an individual, therefore overriding a court of law's legal decision to set him free?

Considering the political apathy of the citizens of both countries, I can't see anyone lifting a finger to do anything about it. As a matter of fact, anyone who did would be called a crackpot, a commie, a conspiracy theorist, or a loon for defending their countrymen's civil rights.

[LawnGnome]

Is anyone else looking forward to seeing some red shirts get a face full of water cannon this weekend? Or is it just me?

[Bagwan]

Wouldn't that be like Chancellor Alistair Darling or Vice President Joe Biden directing law enforcement to arrest an individual, therefore overriding a court of law's legal decision to set him free?

Considering the political apathy of the citizens of both countries, I can't see anyone lifting a finger to do anything about it. As a matter of fact, anyone who did would be called a crackpot, a commie, a conspiracy theorist, or a loon for defending their countrymen's civil rights.

My understanding is that this character is on POLICE bail. If that is so, then it has little to do with the courts. If the police do not grant bail then appeal can be made to a judge in chambers, or a convened court, who may well grant bail against police wishes.

[animatic]

In most places high end politicians ask for more pointed focus of police direction.

Some times for political gain, but often because the target is getting away with blue murder

and it gives an impression of being above the law and needs to by publicly repudiated.

Such as being on bail and going back to the same thing that got him charged in the 1st place.

Which would be the case in this instance. Disrupting ASEAN AGAIN... would be certain grounds to revoke bail.

A shot across Ari's bow metaphorically.

This is a warning, that the hammer will go down if this prat does what he threatens to do.

Edited October 22, 2009 by animatic

[TAWP]

And in Thailand it is legal (and perhaps expected) that the members of cabinet direct the departments under them.

In some other countries the parliament is legislative only and are prohibited by law to direct the individual handling of any cases.

[animatic]

The President of USA tells the Attorney General what he wants done.

If it isn't done to satisfaction he can replace him, no questions.

Just 'submit you resignation on my desk by end of the working day' etc.

He of course SHOULD adhere to the laws of the land when doing it...

Edited October 22, 2009 by animatic

[Rumfoord]

UDD to submit letter to ASEAN leaders today

BANGKOK, 23 October 2009 (NNT) – The anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) will travel to a venue of the ongoing ASEAN Summit in Phetchaburi province on Friday to hand in a letter of complaint.

UDD leaders Nattawut Saikua and Arisaman Pongruengrong promised that the group would not disrupt the 15th ASEAN Summit taking place from 23 to 25 October 2009. Nevertheless, representatives of the anti-government group led by Mr Arisman will travel to Phetchaburi to submit the letter to representatives of ASEAN leaders at Puek Tian Beach, locating near the meeting venue at 13.30 hrs.

Acting Police Commissioner-General Police General Patheep Tunprasert earlier warned that Mr Arisman’s bail would be canceled if he violated bail conditions. The UDD leader has faced a jail term after he led a group of UDD supporters to break into the last ASEAN summit venue in Pattaya in April this year.

-- NNT 23 October 2009

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255210230002