Thai Government Urges Citizens On Alert In Bangkok

[Darkling]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Escalating, indiscriminate violence in southern Thailand makes the area risky for Americans, who should avoid going there or exercise extra caution if they must go, the State Department said Monday.

The department said its announcement was "to alert American citizens to the need to exercise special caution in the far south of Thailand and ... to defer nonemergency travel in that area as a result of recent escalating unrest."

AMERICANS ARE BEING PUT ON NOTICE DO NOT COME.

I do not believe it is all about Bush or Thaksin, it is just more problems in the south and maybe Thaksins way to keep up the pressure to th community there.

Still go to the south and do not worry more than anywhere else is my advice.

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Take it you have some sort of tourist related business.

[Darkling]

I wonder if there is any way to negotiate with these guys.. instead of using force.

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Ask them to take poison

[Darkling]

For the current escalation of terror I place much of the blame on the current PM!

2nd GW Bush (shrub) would be in line!

Both are  very poor leaders in my opinion!

I would like to see them get out of office as soon as possible!

Wake up Thailand/ USA you are sleeping on the job!

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Yes i totally agree with you. Neither of them are right wing enough we need to crack down on these terrorists, Perhaps a stalin type person would be the answer.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Perhaps you would care to explain why you'd lump Stalin in the right wing. A socialist is from the left wing of the political scene. It's funny how they left attributes their own failures and horrors to the right.

But what do you do? appease them, give them the provinces? How long before would there be violence in other parts of the kingdom with a demand for this or that, Understand there is no appeasement to this brand of Islam that would work. The stated goal is total domination of the world by Islam, under Islamic law. To them incrementalism is very valid, give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

A reemergement of feudal states, with petty warlords, petty wars, all under the banner of Islam sounds like a scifi novel, till you look at Islamic states and how they function.

A bitter vetch of the future awaits all of us to taste, it's how we react now to try to stem this flood of the ignorant violent and brainwashed followers of Islam.

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If you read my quote, i didn`t say Stalin, i said a stalin type person, meaning to crack down hard kill all that disobey and start asap with all the bleading hearts.

[Tippaporn]

If anyone is wondering at all why the world stage is in the state it's in look no further than the responses and opinions on this board. It's a perfect microcosm of the world as a whole. Mass disagreement and little wisdom and heart present to use as a guiding light.

The proportion of people that are seething with hatred and dulled with fear is always amazing to witness. Proponents for violating human rights (the belief that the end justifies the means), the complete eradication of people on a stereo-typical scale (the belief that you have little control over your life experience), the retraction of personal freedoms and liberties to secure safety (again, the end justifies the means), the escalation of the power struggle, which always results in the loss of more "innocent" life (again, the end justifies the means, the belief that war could ever be just, the belief that war is the only road to peace, the belief that might is right), etc., etc., etc.

Many would not class their belief systems in the same category as the ideas held by those fanatical people behind the death and destruction and yet so many of the ideas expressed here are fanactical in their own right. Fanatics never see themselves as such. Their convictions of righteousness are enough to blind them from ever questioning any further what they believe, let alone the erroneous assumption that their beliefs are not beliefs at all but facts. Religions are much the same in the sense that you simply don't question any of it. Blind acceptance is what makes religion work.

I see here so much of the same blind acceptance to beliefs that ultimately serve you all poorly. Never questioning their value, never weighing them with your heart (the best guidance anyone ever has; your heart never lies, as the old adage goes), never looking for inherent contradictions within beliefs (always a dead giveaway as to a belief's true validity), never considering their full effects, never asking whether or not they bring you happiness or pain, and, taken to the ultimate extreme, an utter willingness to happily die for beliefs that aren't even a part of who you truly are. So many Gods must be rolling over in their graves after reading some of this boards' content.

The resistance of so many to be willing to examine their beliefs, to change their beliefs, or even put them on hold while considering quite different beliefs is confounding to me at times. Or, the strict adherence to beliefs that in many cases run contrary to the heart. And the search for answers to and understanding of life and world events in the wrong places with the wrong questions being asked over and over and over again.

All the world's a stage. Shakespeare hit it on the head when he coined that phrase.

[Ajarn]

Excellent post, and one which I hope others will read and ponder with an open mind and heart...

Thank you, Tippaporn.

[taxexile]

so , tippaporn , what you are saying is that those who are on the receiving end of terrorist acts should adjust their beliefs to accommodate to the beliefs and demands of the terrorists.

some situations are beyond negotiation.

how do you deal with a terrorist who puts no value on his / her life or anybody elses life.

not with discussion.

there is only one way , kill him /her before they kill you or yours.

there is no place on the planet for people like that , or the people who back them either morally or financially.

sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire.

the problems in the south are political problems that have been hijacked in the name of religion.

[ray23]

If anyone is wondering at all why the world stage is in the state it's in look no further than the responses and opinions on this board.  It's a perfect microcosm of the world as a whole.  Mass disagreement and little wisdom and heart present to use as a guiding light.

The proportion of people that are seething with hatred and dulled with fear is always amazing to witness.  Proponents for violating human rights (the belief that the end justifies the means), the complete eradication of people on a stereo-typical scale (the belief that you have little control over your life experience), the retraction of personal freedoms and liberties to secure safety (again, the end justifies the means), the escalation of the power struggle, which always results in the loss of more "innocent" life (again, the end justifies the means, the belief that war could ever be just, the belief that war is the only road to peace, the belief that might is right), etc., etc., etc.

Many would not class their belief systems in the same category as the ideas held by those fanatical people behind the death and destruction and yet so many of the ideas expressed here are fanactical in their own right.  Fanatics never see themselves as such.  Their convictions of righteousness are enough to blind them from ever questioning any further what they believe, let alone the erroneous assumption that their beliefs are not beliefs at all but facts.  Religions are much the same in the sense that you simply don't question any of it.  Blind acceptance is what makes religion work.

I see here so much of the same blind acceptance to beliefs that ultimately serve you all poorly.  Never questioning their value, never weighing them with your heart (the best guidance anyone ever has; your heart never lies, as the old adage goes), never looking for inherent contradictions within beliefs (always a dead giveaway as to a belief's true validity), never considering their full effects, never asking whether or not they bring you happiness or pain, and, taken to the ultimate extreme, an utter willingness to happily die for beliefs that aren't even a part of who you truly are.  So many Gods must be rolling over in their graves after reading some of this boards' content.

The resistance of so many to be willing to examine their beliefs, to change their beliefs, or even put them on hold while considering quite different beliefs is confounding to me at times.  Or, the strict adherence to beliefs that in many cases run contrary to the heart.  And the search for answers to and understanding of life and world events in the wrong places with the wrong questions being asked over and over and over again.

All the world's a stage.  Shakespeare hit it on the head when he coined that phrase.

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Very well written and true we are infact a very dangerous creature and I doubt that is going to change. This is one area where history repeats itself over and over. Unfortuantely for a change to occur everyone must change, doubt that will ever happen, hasn't yet.

The one thing that has truly amazed me over the years is cruelty of man to man, not just in war but in everyday life. I know of people killed in a social settings because they didn't laugh at a joke. Doesn't take monetary gain for someone to be murdered. Yes indeed we are dangerous creatures.

[Pattaya_Fox]

It might be a little off-track, but since there have been a couple of references to two-term Presidents.....

Isn't it odd that in a country that claims to be the world's greatest democracy (the USA, in case you were wondering!!), their citizens are denied the right to vote for who they want.

I'm thinking back to Clinton, who I believe had a popularity rating somewhere in the 80's at the time he was not allowed to stand for a third term. Why not? Can some American enlighten me? He would clearly have had an excellent chance of winning again.

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I think a young lady called Monica Lewinsky might have had something to do with that

[marios]

If these people want a separate State, then let them have it. See how they cope in generating their own fuel supplies, water, transport infrastructure, schools, trade agreements with the rest of the world, their own phone and postal systems, their own airline, their own factories, providing enough food for their mini-nation etc etc etc.

See how they cope with their independence and how long it is before they come calling for help.

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It is not that simple unfortunately.

Who knows for example what Malaysia's stance toward the newly formed state will be.Breaking up of countries in many cases serves political interests of others.I do not suggest that Malaysia would capitalise on such an eventuality but I can't keep from wondering.

Money and aid can come in on a massive scale from willing third parties.

[Tippaporn]

so , tippaporn , what you are saying is that those who are on the receiving end of terrorist acts should adjust their beliefs to accommodate to the beliefs and demands of the terrorists.

some situations are beyond negotiation.

how do you deal with a terrorist who puts no value on his / her life or anybody elses life.

not with discussion.

there is only one way , kill him /her before they kill you or yours.

there is no place on the planet for people like that , or the people who back them either morally or financially.

sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire.

the problems in the south are political problems that have been hijacked in the name of religion.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You're misinterpreting here, Taxexile. Personal beliefs are never adjusted in order to accommodate anyone else's beliefs. Rather they are purposefully and deliberately adjusted to accommodate you so that your experience then mirrors your intentions and desires. Their purpose is precisely to help you create the life experience you want to create for yourself.

I may as well mention this here and now. Any explanation that I can offer on any topic can well be misinterpretated. It must be understood that the depth and breadth of this material is quite extensive. As an analogy, you have before you a puzzle. Throughout your life you've collected and arranged all of the pieces, gleaned from many different sources, in a fashion that seems (and take note of this) quite logical from your perspective. Consider the pieces to be ideas and this living, everchanging puzzle to be your own, personal world view (granted that it evolves seemingly ever so slowly).

A new concept is like a new puzzle piece. It most likely will not fit into your current puzzle. You will have to first collect more pieces before you start integrating these new ones into the current puzzle. In the process you will naturally find yourself beginning to discard some of your old pieces as they no longer fit. You will quickly notice that many of your pieces contradict each other. That is always a huge clue as to which pieces truly do not belong.

Another clue; these contradictions also represent the gaps in the flow of the puzzle's logic. You must understand that there is logic in all thought, yet the logic holds only if given certain pieces. Throw in other pieces, or ideas, and you'll find a very leaky vessel indeed.

This natural process requires patience, among other things. Patience in the sense that you will place some beliefs "on hold." In other words, you have not yet discarded them but you have taken the huge and beneficial step of starting to examine them for their true merit rather than simply blindly accepting them. Whereas before a particular belief may have garnered your complete conviction you now allow yourself to have some reservations pending further examination. The allowance portion is essential. You must give yourself that leeway.

Key to selecting pieces is to not just check to see whether they are a mental fit, but check to see if they fit into your heart, also. I would choose ideas and beliefs that agree with your heart even when they don't agree with your head, and most certainly not because they simply agree with more generalized mass beliefs. Your heart doesn't lie and will never waylay you. It is your best guidance and speaks to you specifically through your emotions. It is also the place where your dreams come from. Armed with this approach you'll find it easy to find new puzzle pieces from just about any source imaginable. The answers are everywhere; always have been and always will be.

A note of caution: do not make the mistake of identifying too closely with your puzzle pieces. They are not you, rather they are tools to be used by you for your self expression. This allows for a much more playful attitude when rearranging your pieces. Remember this: it's supposed to be fun. Similar to the enjoyment you receive when idly entertaining your most cherished personal dreams.

Another thing to keep in mind is, and this may be a new puzzle piece for you, that thoughts and ideas are NOT inert and static. They have great vitality and they produce very real effects, effects which ultimately translate into experience. I'm sure you've heard the expression that what you put forth into the world comes back to you. It's no joke. If there is any singular idea that would have extremely profound effects in your life it is knowing that ideas, thoughts have everything to do with your personal experience. (Of course there are a multitude of ideas that each in themselves would have a revolutionary effect. Hey, the world is no longer flat.)

And don't worry about trying to fix the world too much. You have been given the power, the gift to most definitely change one thing in this world: YOU. Start there. To overly concern yourself with the doings of others is not adviseable. You'll find out for yourself soon enough why that is the case. If each and everyone of us uses this process to create individual, personal experience then how does the interaction of billions of people (and other life forms) work out? Once you understand that point you will begin to understand creation on a mass or global level. I've just given you the tip of the iceberg. A very, very small tip indeed.

On a final note: if you do not have happiness within yourself you have nothing of real value to offer to anyone else or the world at large. I think that point is obvious enough. The very goal of life is TO BE HAPPY. Keeping yourself there is your only real job. That means dropping everything and anything else that does not produce that for you. You can then literally effect changes in this world on a larger scale than any head of state.

Choke dee mak mak

Edited April 6, 2005 by Tippaporn

[hopeless]

As I hinted before, this could be settled in a matter of hours by nuking a couple of muslim cities. Im not sure if its the correct way to go about it, but it would definatly stop terrorists attacks

*BRING BACK HITLER*

[Pattaya_Fox]

so , tippaporn , what you are saying is that those who are on the receiving end of terrorist acts should adjust their beliefs to accommodate to the beliefs and demands of the terrorists.

some situations are beyond negotiation.

how do you deal with a terrorist who puts no value on his / her life or anybody elses life.

not with discussion.

there is only one way , kill him /her before they kill you or yours.

there is no place on the planet for people like that , or the people who back them either morally or financially.

sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire.

the problems in the south are political problems that have been hijacked in the name of religion.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You're misinterpreting here, Taxexile. Personal beliefs are never adjusted in order to accommodate anyone else's beliefs. Rather they are purposefully and deliberately adjusted to accommodate you so that your experience then mirrors your intentions and desires. Their purpose is precisely to help you create the life experience you want to create for yourself.

I may as well mention this here and now. Any explanation that I can offer on any topic can well be misinterpretated. It must be understood that the depth and breadth of this material is quite extensive. As an analogy, you have before you a puzzle. Throughout your life you've collected and arranged all of the pieces, gleaned from many different sources, in a fashion that seems (and take note of this) quite logical from your perspective. Consider the pieces to be ideas and this living, everchanging puzzle to be your own, personal world view (granted that it evolves seemingly ever so slowly).

A new concept is like a new puzzle piece. It most likely will not fit into your current puzzle. You will have to first collect more pieces before you start integrating these new ones into the current puzzle. In the process you will naturally find yourself beginning to discard some of your old pieces as they no longer fit. You will quickly notice that many of your pieces contradict each other. That is always a huge clue as to which pieces truly do not belong.

Another clue; these contradictions also represent the gaps in the flow of the puzzle's logic. You must understand that there is logic in all thought, yet the logic holds only if given certain pieces. Throw in other pieces, or ideas, and you'll find a very leaky vessel indeed.

This natural process requires patience, among other things. Patience in the sense that you will place some beliefs "on hold." In other words, you have not yet discarded them but you have taken the huge and beneficial step of starting to examine them for their true merit rather than simply blindly accepting them. Whereas before a particular belief may have garnered your complete conviction you now allow yourself to have some reservations pending further examination. The allowance portion is essential. You must give yourself that leeway.

Key to selecting pieces is to not just check to see whether they are a mental fit, but check to see if they fit into your heart, also. I would choose ideas and beliefs that agree with your heart even when they don't agree with your head, and most certainly not because they simply agree with more generalized mass beliefs. Your heart doesn't lie and will never waylay you. It is your best guidance and speaks to you specifically through your emotions. It is also the place where your dreams come from. Armed with this approach you'll find it easy to find new puzzle pieces from just about any source imaginable. The answers are everywhere; always have been and always will be.

A note of caution: do not make the mistake of identifying too closely with your puzzle pieces. They are not you, rather they are tools to be used by you for your self expression. This allows for a much more playful attitude when rearranging your pieces. Remember this: it's supposed to be fun. Similar to the enjoyment you receive when idly entertaining your most cherished personal dreams.

Another thing to keep in mind is, and this may be a new puzzle piece for you, that thoughts and ideas are NOT inert and static. They have great vitality and they produce very real effects, effects which ultimately translate into experience. I'm sure you've heard the expression that what you put forth into the world comes back to you. It's no joke. If there is any singular idea that would have extremely profound effects in your life it is knowing that ideas, thoughts have everything to do with your personal experience. (Of course there are a multitude of ideas that each in themselves would have a revolutionary effect. Hey, the world is no longer flat.)

And don't worry about trying to fix the world too much. You have been given the power, the gift to most definitely change one thing in this world: YOU. Start there. To overly concern yourself with the doings of others is not adviseable. You'll find out for yourself soon enough why that is the case. If each and everyone of us uses this process to create individual, personal experience then how does the interaction of billions of people (and other life forms) work out? Once you understand that point you will begin to understand creation on a mass or global level. I've just given you the tip of the iceberg. A very, very small tip indeed.

On a final note: if you do not have happiness within yourself you have nothing of real value to offer to anyone else or the world at large. I think that point is obvious enough. The very goal of life is TO BE HAPPY. Keeping yourself there is your only real job. That means dropping everything and anything else that does not produce that for you. You can then literally effect changes in this world on a larger scale than any head of state.

Choke dee mak mak

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It is you I think that is misinterpreting taxexile here.

He has brought you back to reality from your land of utopia.

Yes we all want to be happy....but it`s the other barstards that wont let us.....and to drop anything and everything as you say if it does not produce that is a nonsense.

Try your rhetoric on the Fanatical bombers who believe that their martyrdom will give them eternal happiness, but who don`t care about the misery and sufferring that they cause here in the real world.

I am sure that your rose tinted glasses will become very steamed if you manage to encounter them....

[teko]

Im just thinking about  how we won world war 2, we were losing until the Americans nuked the Japs........................................

Good one mate, the Japs were well and truely beaten by that stage and the Yanks wanted unconditional surrender, couldn't get it, so what do they do, drop a heap of nukes. Still the most dispicable acts known to mankind. And that mentality still continues to this day.

............................

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[Tippaporn]

If anyone is wondering at all why the world stage is in the state it's in look no further than the responses and opinions on this board.  It's a perfect microcosm of the world as a whole.  Mass disagreement and little wisdom and heart present to use as a guiding light.

The proportion of people that are seething with hatred and dulled with fear is always amazing to witness.  Proponents for violating human rights (the belief that the end justifies the means), the complete eradication of people on a stereo-typical scale (the belief that you have little control over your life experience), the retraction of personal freedoms and liberties to secure safety (again, the end justifies the means), the escalation of the power struggle, which always results in the loss of more "innocent" life (again, the end justifies the means, the belief that war could ever be just, the belief that war is the only road to peace, the belief that might is right), etc., etc., etc.

Many would not class their belief systems in the same category as the ideas held by those fanatical people behind the death and destruction and yet so many of the ideas expressed here are fanactical in their own right.  Fanatics never see themselves as such.  Their convictions of righteousness are enough to blind them from ever questioning any further what they believe, let alone the erroneous assumption that their beliefs are not beliefs at all but facts.  Religions are much the same in the sense that you simply don't question any of it.  Blind acceptance is what makes religion work.

I see here so much of the same blind acceptance to beliefs that ultimately serve you all poorly.  Never questioning their value, never weighing them with your heart (the best guidance anyone ever has; your heart never lies, as the old adage goes), never looking for inherent contradictions within beliefs (always a dead giveaway as to a belief's true validity), never considering their full effects, never asking whether or not they bring you happiness or pain, and, taken to the ultimate extreme, an utter willingness to happily die for beliefs that aren't even a part of who you truly are.  So many Gods must be rolling over in their graves after reading some of this boards' content.

The resistance of so many to be willing to examine their beliefs, to change their beliefs, or even put them on hold while considering quite different beliefs is confounding to me at times.  Or, the strict adherence to beliefs that in many cases run contrary to the heart.  And the search for answers to and understanding of life and world events in the wrong places with the wrong questions being asked over and over and over again.

All the world's a stage.  Shakespeare hit it on the head when he coined that phrase.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Very well written and true we are infact a very dangerous creature and I doubt that is going to change. This is one area where history repeats itself over and over. Unfortuantely for a change to occur everyone must change, doubt that will ever happen, hasn't yet.

The one thing that has truly amazed me over the years is cruelty of man to man, not just in war but in everyday life. I know of people killed in a social settings because they didn't laugh at a joke. Doesn't take monetary gain for someone to be murdered. Yes indeed we are dangerous creatures.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Don't be so down-hearted, ray23. The ability to create is simply a double-edged sword, that's all. The world by and large experiences a vastly greater proportion of health and happiness than it does ill-being in any given moment. All you have to do is walk out into your favorite natural spot to remind yourself of that. Lighten up. The world isn't going to ###### any time soon, 55555555555!

And quit reading the daily papers as their number one product is bad news. They know ###### well what sells. Morbid curiosity is a curious thing.

[Tippaporn]

so , tippaporn , what you are saying is that those who are on the receiving end of terrorist acts should adjust their beliefs to accommodate to the beliefs and demands of the terrorists.

some situations are beyond negotiation.

how do you deal with a terrorist who puts no value on his / her life or anybody elses life.

not with discussion.

there is only one way , kill him /her before they kill you or yours.

there is no place on the planet for people like that , or the people who back them either morally or financially.

sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire.

the problems in the south are political problems that have been hijacked in the name of religion.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You're misinterpreting here, Taxexile. Personal beliefs are never adjusted in order to accommodate anyone else's beliefs. Rather they are purposefully and deliberately adjusted to accommodate you so that your experience then mirrors your intentions and desires. Their purpose is precisely to help you create the life experience you want to create for yourself.

I may as well mention this here and now. Any explanation that I can offer on any topic can well be misinterpretated. It must be understood that the depth and breadth of this material is quite extensive. As an analogy, you have before you a puzzle. Throughout your life you've collected and arranged all of the pieces, gleaned from many different sources, in a fashion that seems (and take note of this) quite logical from your perspective. Consider the pieces to be ideas and this living, everchanging puzzle to be your own, personal world view (granted that it evolves seemingly ever so slowly).

A new concept is like a new puzzle piece. It most likely will not fit into your current puzzle. You will have to first collect more pieces before you start integrating these new ones into the current puzzle. In the process you will naturally find yourself beginning to discard some of your old pieces as they no longer fit. You will quickly notice that many of your pieces contradict each other. That is always a huge clue as to which pieces truly do not belong.

Another clue; these contradictions also represent the gaps in the flow of the puzzle's logic. You must understand that there is logic in all thought, yet the logic holds only if given certain pieces. Throw in other pieces, or ideas, and you'll find a very leaky vessel indeed.

This natural process requires patience, among other things. Patience in the sense that you will place some beliefs "on hold." In other words, you have not yet discarded them but you have taken the huge and beneficial step of starting to examine them for their true merit rather than simply blindly accepting them. Whereas before a particular belief may have garnered your complete conviction you now allow yourself to have some reservations pending further examination. The allowance portion is essential. You must give yourself that leeway.

Key to selecting pieces is to not just check to see whether they are a mental fit, but check to see if they fit into your heart, also. I would choose ideas and beliefs that agree with your heart even when they don't agree with your head, and most certainly not because they simply agree with more generalized mass beliefs. Your heart doesn't lie and will never waylay you. It is your best guidance and speaks to you specifically through your emotions. It is also the place where your dreams come from. Armed with this approach you'll find it easy to find new puzzle pieces from just about any source imaginable. The answers are everywhere; always have been and always will be.

A note of caution: do not make the mistake of identifying too closely with your puzzle pieces. They are not you, rather they are tools to be used by you for your self expression. This allows for a much more playful attitude when rearranging your pieces. Remember this: it's supposed to be fun. Similar to the enjoyment you receive when idly entertaining your most cherished personal dreams.

Another thing to keep in mind is, and this may be a new puzzle piece for you, that thoughts and ideas are NOT inert and static. They have great vitality and they produce very real effects, effects which ultimately translate into experience. I'm sure you've heard the expression that what you put forth into the world comes back to you. It's no joke. If there is any singular idea that would have extremely profound effects in your life it is knowing that ideas, thoughts have everything to do with your personal experience. (Of course there are a multitude of ideas that each in themselves would have a revolutionary effect. Hey, the world is no longer flat.)

And don't worry about trying to fix the world too much. You have been given the power, the gift to most definitely change one thing in this world: YOU. Start there. To overly concern yourself with the doings of others is not adviseable. You'll find out for yourself soon enough why that is the case. If each and everyone of us uses this process to create individual, personal experience then how does the interaction of billions of people (and other life forms) work out? Once you understand that point you will begin to understand creation on a mass or global level. I've just given you the tip of the iceberg. A very, very small tip indeed.

On a final note: if you do not have happiness within yourself you have nothing of real value to offer to anyone else or the world at large. I think that point is obvious enough. The very goal of life is TO BE HAPPY. Keeping yourself there is your only real job. That means dropping everything and anything else that does not produce that for you. You can then literally effect changes in this world on a larger scale than any head of state.

Choke dee mak mak

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It is you I think that is misinterpreting taxexile here.

He has brought you back to reality from your land of utopia.

Yes we all want to be happy....but it`s the other barstards that wont let us.....and to drop anything and everything as you say if it does not produce that is a nonsense.

Try your rhetoric on the Fanatical bombers who believe that their martyrdom will give them eternal happiness, but who don`t care about the misery and sufferring that they cause here in the real world.

I am sure that your rose tinted glasses will become very steamed if you manage to encounter them....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pattaya_Fox, honestly, did you actually read everything that I wrote? Surely you must have some level of comprehension?

[Tippaporn]

Pattaya_Fox, I can feel that reply is on it's way.

[Pattaya_Fox]

so , tippaporn , what you are saying is that those who are on the receiving end of terrorist acts should adjust their beliefs to accommodate to the beliefs and demands of the terrorists.

some situations are beyond negotiation.

how do you deal with a terrorist who puts no value on his / her life or anybody elses life.

not with discussion.

there is only one way , kill him /her before they kill you or yours.

there is no place on the planet for people like that , or the people who back them either morally or financially.

sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire.

the problems in the south are political problems that have been hijacked in the name of religion.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You're misinterpreting here, Taxexile. Personal beliefs are never adjusted in order to accommodate anyone else's beliefs. Rather they are purposefully and deliberately adjusted to accommodate you so that your experience then mirrors your intentions and desires. Their purpose is precisely to help you create the life experience you want to create for yourself.

I may as well mention this here and now. Any explanation that I can offer on any topic can well be misinterpretated. It must be understood that the depth and breadth of this material is quite extensive. As an analogy, you have before you a puzzle. Throughout your life you've collected and arranged all of the pieces, gleaned from many different sources, in a fashion that seems (and take note of this) quite logical from your perspective. Consider the pieces to be ideas and this living, everchanging puzzle to be your own, personal world view (granted that it evolves seemingly ever so slowly).

A new concept is like a new puzzle piece. It most likely will not fit into your current puzzle. You will have to first collect more pieces before you start integrating these new ones into the current puzzle. In the process you will naturally find yourself beginning to discard some of your old pieces as they no longer fit. You will quickly notice that many of your pieces contradict each other. That is always a huge clue as to which pieces truly do not belong.

Another clue; these contradictions also represent the gaps in the flow of the puzzle's logic. You must understand that there is logic in all thought, yet the logic holds only if given certain pieces. Throw in other pieces, or ideas, and you'll find a very leaky vessel indeed.

This natural process requires patience, among other things. Patience in the sense that you will place some beliefs "on hold." In other words, you have not yet discarded them but you have taken the huge and beneficial step of starting to examine them for their true merit rather than simply blindly accepting them. Whereas before a particular belief may have garnered your complete conviction you now allow yourself to have some reservations pending further examination. The allowance portion is essential. You must give yourself that leeway.

Key to selecting pieces is to not just check to see whether they are a mental fit, but check to see if they fit into your heart, also. I would choose ideas and beliefs that agree with your heart even when they don't agree with your head, and most certainly not because they simply agree with more generalized mass beliefs. Your heart doesn't lie and will never waylay you. It is your best guidance and speaks to you specifically through your emotions. It is also the place where your dreams come from. Armed with this approach you'll find it easy to find new puzzle pieces from just about any source imaginable. The answers are everywhere; always have been and always will be.

A note of caution: do not make the mistake of identifying too closely with your puzzle pieces. They are not you, rather they are tools to be used by you for your self expression. This allows for a much more playful attitude when rearranging your pieces. Remember this: it's supposed to be fun. Similar to the enjoyment you receive when idly entertaining your most cherished personal dreams.

Another thing to keep in mind is, and this may be a new puzzle piece for you, that thoughts and ideas are NOT inert and static. They have great vitality and they produce very real effects, effects which ultimately translate into experience. I'm sure you've heard the expression that what you put forth into the world comes back to you. It's no joke. If there is any singular idea that would have extremely profound effects in your life it is knowing that ideas, thoughts have everything to do with your personal experience. (Of course there are a multitude of ideas that each in themselves would have a revolutionary effect. Hey, the world is no longer flat.)

And don't worry about trying to fix the world too much. You have been given the power, the gift to most definitely change one thing in this world: YOU. Start there. To overly concern yourself with the doings of others is not adviseable. You'll find out for yourself soon enough why that is the case. If each and everyone of us uses this process to create individual, personal experience then how does the interaction of billions of people (and other life forms) work out? Once you understand that point you will begin to understand creation on a mass or global level. I've just given you the tip of the iceberg. A very, very small tip indeed.

On a final note: if you do not have happiness within yourself you have nothing of real value to offer to anyone else or the world at large. I think that point is obvious enough. The very goal of life is TO BE HAPPY. Keeping yourself there is your only real job. That means dropping everything and anything else that does not produce that for you. You can then literally effect changes in this world on a larger scale than any head of state.

Choke dee mak mak

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It is you I think that is misinterpreting taxexile here.

He has brought you back to reality from your land of utopia.

Yes we all want to be happy....but it`s the other barstards that wont let us.....and to drop anything and everything as you say if it does not produce that is a nonsense.

Try your rhetoric on the Fanatical bombers who believe that their martyrdom will give them eternal happiness, but who don`t care about the misery and sufferring that they cause here in the real world.

I am sure that your rose tinted glasses will become very steamed if you manage to encounter them....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pattaya_Fox, honestly, did you actually read everything that I wrote? Surely you must have some level of comprehension?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh yes I did, but I find that people like you who are trying to change the world through this particular style of ideology are usually themselves very narrow minded. I can see this in you as you are now telling people not to even read newspapers....Is it because you are frightened that people may see a different point of view than yours??

By the way which sect or religious body do you belong to???

[Thanh-BKK]

As I hinted before, this could be settled in a matter of hours by nuking a couple of muslim cities.  Im not sure if its the correct way to go about it, but it would definatly stop terrorists attacks

*BRING BACK HITLER*

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wow. What a sense.

What if you nuke a muslim city, and you'll happen to kill some innocent people. ALL THE WORLD'S MUSLIMS WERE AFTER YOU IMMEDIATELY. You would not end terrorism, but you would escalate it, with almost EVERY Muslim being ready to hunt you down and kill you.

Beside, the people in that city may have nothing to do at all with this terrorism. I know several Muslims. They are people as nice as others. All of the ones i know don't understand why terrorists use the name of God or Islam to rectify their acts.

But one thing for sure: Muslims, more than any other group of people (Jews maybe, as being a minority too) stick together, internationally.

My solution (well, proposal to a solution) would be: Hunt the actuall terrorists, use police and military for that. If cought in the act - kill them on the spot (video evidence! Cameras are very small these days!). If just cought - have them disappear, underground special prison or whatever, but fair treatment like a normal prisoner. They have to stand trial, be convicted, receive a sentence. Give them rewards for naming masterminds - go after THEM.

Then, phase two: Get the ordinary muslim people education! Make sure they can READ! And have them study their holy book, the Quran. I just got hold of an english version (e-book actually, reading it using my cell phone!) On the very first few pages (sort of an introduction, before the "Genesis" compatible part) are hints that "punishment against the infidels and non-believers will COME FROM GOD" (and NOT from humans!!!) and that "Jews and Nazareans are protected for their prophet's words" (Nazareans can only mean Christians - Jesus was from the town of Nazareth).

So if Jews and Christians are protected (as mentioned in one of my posts in another topic that turned pretty gerneral-anti-islam, these three religions have THE SAME GOD, only different prophets (Moses for Jews, Jesus for Christians and Muhammad for Muslims), then this explains already that the terrorists are deadset wrong, for they are not killing "non-believers", not even "infidels", but people worshipping the very same deity! And THIS FACT has to be tought to the normal Muslim down south who maybe can't read anything but arabic and knows only what he/she heard from the crazed, fanatic Islamist in the local mosque, who pulls the strings for the bigger guy further up who might aim for the position of "President" in the new islamic state!

Intelligence is the deadliest weapon against terrorism, because making people aware of the reality and letting them find the truth behind all the fanaticism will REALLY wipe out terrorism.

BUT first this intelligence has to be provided, and tthe terrorists are quite successfull in preventing that - which might exactly be the reason for their targeting schools etc.

But bombing/nuking isn't a way to respond.

Sign me

Thanh

(PS i have no religion at all! But i read with interest the Bible and the Quran just trying to figure out what the major difference between the religious foundations are)

[taxexile]

Don't be so down-hearted, ray23. The ability to create is simply a double-edged sword, that's all. The world by and large experiences a vastly greater proportion of health and happiness than it does ill-being in any given moment. All you have to do is walk out into your favorite natural spot to remind yourself of that. Lighten up. The world isn't going to ###### any time soon, 55555555555!

And quit reading the daily papers as their number one product is bad news. They know ###### well what sells. Morbid curiosity is a curious thing.

i nearly made the mistake of taking you seriously , until i read the above.

there is surely more unhappiness and suffering in the world than happiness and if your answer is to put on blinkers and tiptoe through the tulips then all your credibility flies away with the butterflies.

its a nasty world we live in , but one of the nastiest things around at the moment is terrorism as brought to us by fanatical and nihilistic wahabi arabs and their ignorant followers. these people have no agenda other than to destroy . they are not open to rational discussion . there is only one way for them . they go on about the crusades of 1000 years ago as if it happened last week and their brothers died in it , they go on and on about the palestinians , but when has one muslim country ever lifted a finger or given aid to drag the palestinians out of the gutter the have been cruelly pushed into , money for bombs yes , but money for decent schools to educate the children...... dont make me laugh.

and the fires in the south are fuelled by the very same masters.

they wallow in self pity and use it to cause trouble , and then they pick up their guns and bombs and beheading swords.

they are living in the 14th century and if they are not destroyed they will take us all back to the 14th century.

the more concessions they are given , the more they will want.

they are a plague , and as i have said before , there is , unfortunately only one way to deal with them.

as always , the innocent will die along with the guilty , there is nothing new there.

you cant make a good omelette without breaking a few eggs.

how many died in the second world war before hitler was finally stopped , if he had been taken on earlier the death toll would have been lower.

go and save the whales tippaporn , the south of thailand and other trouble spots around the world are no place for the likes of yourself.

leave the real world of 2005 to be sorted out by the military and then maybe by 2025 we can all come and join you in the tulip fields.

the military are , sadly , very much needed these days.

Edited April 6, 2005 by taxexile

[The_Moog]

My solution

1) Build big wall between Thailand and Malaysia & Gunboats in the ocean.

2) Send in Thai Special Forces on specific ops identified by Intelligence/Informers.

Forget Thailand fat Policemen and soldiers. They couldn't catch a cold. Thai Special Forces here are known for being quite good operators - very tough and ruthless, but equipped with not very good good weaponry.

[Pepe']

Now Wed. morning USA tv show the video of bombing and telling people do not go to Thailand. What affect will this have on people coming for the holidays there. Most likely very little i guess. My wife is from the south (SATUN) and I have never any problems there and of course never will stop going. Sure there will be a bomb here and there but now in Thailand and they tell people do not go. But a place like Isreal has many bombs and they do not give the same warnings. What is the US goverment trying to do? Hurt Thailand again.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting point. I never thought of that...

[Tippaporn]

QUOTE(Pattaya_Fox @ 2005-04-06

It is you I think that is misinterpreting taxexile here.

He has brought you back to reality from your land of utopia.

Yes we all want to be happy....but it`s the other barstards that wont let us.....and to drop anything and everything as you say if it does not produce that is a nonsense.

Try your rhetoric on the Fanatical bombers who believe that their martyrdom will give them eternal happiness, but who don`t care about the misery and sufferring that they cause here in the real world.

I am sure that your rose tinted glasses will become very steamed if you manage to encounter them....

[right)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/right]

Pattaya_Fox, honestly, did you actually read everything that I wrote? Surely you must have some level of comprehension?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh yes I did, but I find that people like you who are trying to change the world through this particular style of ideology are usually themselves very narrow minded. I can see this in you as you are now telling people not to even read newspapers....Is it because you are frightened that people may see a different point of view than yours??

By the way which sect or religious body do you belong to???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pattaya_Fox, I estimate that you must have spent the whole of about two seconds considering an intensely deep topic. And there's no intelligent debate, either. Not a single question from you, other than a rhetorical one, nor any desire for clarification. You think you've pegged me so quickly and effortlessly? Blowing me off in such a short span is indicitive of much. So many people that like to claim they know all about something they really know nothing about. I believe it's termed shooting off at the mouth.

As to the ideology I subscribe to you have no clue as to what it entails in it's totality since it's easily deduced from your statements that you've never been exposed to it, at least not to any great depth. And you are equally clueless as to the open mindedness required to walk any length of that stretch of road.

Yeah, I wear glasses, but only for reading. They're not tinted. At least they don't give me a pie-in-the-sky view. Is it really that bad to have an understanding of why it's not a good idea to kill people, for any reason? And why you needn't ever find yourself in such a situation to begin with? And to suggest alternatives that don't include killing?

Since you truly don't understand anything of which I wrote there's no point in attempting any explanation as to why on earth I would suggest not reading the papers on a daily basis. The walls would be more willing to lend an open ear. There's more there than meets your eye. I think you're really just looking for more fodder to direct your abuse.

It's a shame that you're not seeking any true debate. Simply agreement from others and ridicule for anyone opposing your concepts. I believe there are people in Southern Thailand with a like attitude. I'd welcome a response that's more worthy of you.

[Darkling]

As I hinted before, this could be settled in a matter of hours by nuking a couple of muslim cities.  Im not sure if its the correct way to go about it, but it would definatly stop terrorists attacks

*BRING BACK HITLER*

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeh! and they don`t like you looking at there girl`s.

[Darkling]

QUOTE(Pattaya_Fox @ 2005-04-06

It is you I think that is misinterpreting taxexile here.

He has brought you back to reality from your land of utopia.

Yes we all want to be happy....but it`s the other barstards that wont let us.....and to drop anything and everything as you say if it does not produce that is a nonsense.

Try your rhetoric on the Fanatical bombers who believe that their martyrdom will give them eternal happiness, but who don`t care about the misery and sufferring that they cause here in the real world.

I am sure that your rose tinted glasses will become very steamed if you manage to encounter them....

[right)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/right]

Pattaya_Fox, honestly, did you actually read everything that I wrote? Surely you must have some level of comprehension?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh yes I did, but I find that people like you who are trying to change the world through this particular style of ideology are usually themselves very narrow minded. I can see this in you as you are now telling people not to even read newspapers....Is it because you are frightened that people may see a different point of view than yours??

By the way which sect or religious body do you belong to???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pattaya_Fox, I estimate that you must have spent the whole of about two seconds considering an intensely deep topic. And there's no intelligent debate, either. Not a single question from you, other than a rhetorical one, nor any desire for clarification. You think you've pegged me so quickly and effortlessly? Blowing me off in such a short span is indicitive of much. So many people that like to claim they know all about something they really know nothing about. I believe it's termed shooting off at the mouth.

As to the ideology I subscribe to you have no clue as to what it entails in it's totality since it's easily deduced from your statements that you've never been exposed to it, at least not to any great depth. And you are equally clueless as to the open mindedness required to walk any length of that stretch of road.

Yeah, I wear glasses, but only for reading. They're not tinted. At least they don't give me a pie-in-the-sky view. Is it really that bad to have an understanding of why it's not a good idea to kill people, for any reason? And why you needn't ever find yourself in such a situation to begin with? And to suggest alternatives that don't include killing?

Since you truly don't understand anything of which I wrote there's no point in attempting any explanation as to why on earth I would suggest not reading the papers on a daily basis. The walls would be more willing to lend an open ear. There's more there than meets your eye. I think you're really just looking for more fodder to direct your abuse.

It's a shame that you're not seeking any true debate. Simply agreement from others and ridicule for anyone opposing your concepts. I believe there are people in Southern Thailand with a like attitude. I'd welcome a response that's more worthy of you.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This is why we need PolPot!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pattaya_Fox]

QUOTE(Pattaya_Fox @ 2005-04-06

It is you I think that is misinterpreting taxexile here.

He has brought you back to reality from your land of utopia.

Yes we all want to be happy....but it`s the other barstards that wont let us.....and to drop anything and everything as you say if it does not produce that is a nonsense.

Try your rhetoric on the Fanatical bombers who believe that their martyrdom will give them eternal happiness, but who don`t care about the misery and sufferring that they cause here in the real world.

I am sure that your rose tinted glasses will become very steamed if you manage to encounter them....

[right)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/right]

Pattaya_Fox, honestly, did you actually read everything that I wrote? Surely you must have some level of comprehension?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh yes I did, but I find that people like you who are trying to change the world through this particular style of ideology are usually themselves very narrow minded. I can see this in you as you are now telling people not to even read newspapers....Is it because you are frightened that people may see a different point of view than yours??

By the way which sect or religious body do you belong to???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pattaya_Fox, I estimate that you must have spent the whole of about two seconds considering an intensely deep topic. And there's no intelligent debate, either. Not a single question from you, other than a rhetorical one, nor any desire for clarification. You think you've pegged me so quickly and effortlessly? Blowing me off in such a short span is indicitive of much. So many people that like to claim they know all about something they really know nothing about. I believe it's termed shooting off at the mouth.

As to the ideology I subscribe to you have no clue as to what it entails in it's totality since it's easily deduced from your statements that you've never been exposed to it, at least not to any great depth. And you are equally clueless as to the open mindedness required to walk any length of that stretch of road.

Yeah, I wear glasses, but only for reading. They're not tinted. At least they don't give me a pie-in-the-sky view. Is it really that bad to have an understanding of why it's not a good idea to kill people, for any reason? And why you needn't ever find yourself in such a situation to begin with? And to suggest alternatives that don't include killing?

Since you truly don't understand anything of which I wrote there's no point in attempting any explanation as to why on earth I would suggest not reading the papers on a daily basis. The walls would be more willing to lend an open ear. There's more there than meets your eye. I think you're really just looking for more fodder to direct your abuse.

It's a shame that you're not seeking any true debate. Simply agreement from others and ridicule for anyone opposing your concepts. I believe there are people in Southern Thailand with a like attitude. I'd welcome a response that's more worthy of you.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You know Pete....oh you don`t mind me calling you Pete do you?

I think you once said quote... "Don`t expect others to be able to see through your eyes it can`t be done..." and "It`s impossible to get inside someone else`s head and look through their eyes..."

Yes you will probably say that I have misinterpreted these comments or situation.

This topic was originally about the Thai government`s warning for people to be alert in Bangkok because of the murderous deeds perpetrated by the extreme element in the South of Thailand.

I basically do not want to be told by you or anybody else that this situation would not have happened if we all had followed your ideals and that I have to view this and life with a new concept.

The fact is this:- There are cold blooded murdering power seeking fanatics in the Kingdom of Thailand...and they are real and they are here now.

It is not a game Pete...and make no mistake about it these people would not hesitate to obliterate you as well, without a second thought, if it meant that you were in the way of them achieving their warped aims.

As A German you should understand as much if not more than most that there are times when Fanatics and murderers have to be brought to justice and that this cannot be achieved by willful fantasies and ideals that are no longer pertinent to the situation.

These people want to take away by force the freedom of others including ourselves and our choice to live peacefully the way we wish, and I think that you once said Pete, " It is all about everyone making their own choices, which is our inherent freedom and birth right ."

Your assumptions in your last post are very far from accurate and you seem to be wallowing trying to justify your previous posts which quite franky don`t merit an indepth analysis because they do not relate to this topic....

[Tippaporn]

Don't be so down-hearted, ray23. The ability to create is simply a double-edged sword, that's all. The world by and large experiences a vastly greater proportion of health and happiness than it does ill-being in any given moment. All you have to do is walk out into your favorite natural spot to remind yourself of that. Lighten up. The world isn't going to ###### any time soon, 55555555555!

And quit reading the daily papers as their number one product is bad news. They know ###### well what sells. Morbid curiosity is a curious thing.

i nearly made the mistake of taking you seriously , until i read the above.

there is surely more unhappiness and suffering in the world than happiness and if your answer is to put on blinkers and tiptoe through the tulips then all your credibility flies away with the butterflies.

its a nasty world we live in , but one of the nastiest things around at the moment is terrorism as brought to us by fanatical and nihilistic wahabi arabs and their ignorant followers. these people have no agenda other than to destroy . they are not open to rational discussion . there is only one way for them . they go on about the crusades of 1000 years ago as if it happened last week and their brothers died in it , they go on and on about the palestinians , but when has one muslim country ever lifted a finger or given aid to drag the palestinians out of the gutter the have been cruelly pushed into , money for bombs yes , but money for decent schools to educate the children...... dont make me laugh.

and the fires in the south are fuelled by the very same masters.

they wallow in self pity and use it to cause trouble , and then they pick up their guns and bombs and beheading swords.

they are living in the 14th century and if they are not destroyed they will take us all back to the 14th century.

the more concessions they are given , the more they will want.

they are a plague , and as i have said before , there is , unfortunately only one way to deal with them.

as always , the innocent will die along with the guilty , there is nothing new there.

you cant make a good omelette without breaking a few eggs.

how many died in the second world war before hitler was finally stopped , if he had been taken on earlier the death toll would have been lower.

go and save the whales tippaporn , the south of thailand and other trouble spots around the world are no place for the likes of yourself.

leave the real world of 2005 to be sorted out by the military and then maybe by 2025 we can all come and join you in the tulip fields.

the military are , sadly , very much needed these days.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You misinterpreted me the first time, Taxexile. You misinterpret me a second time. I gave fair warning that it can be easily done. I also mentioned the need for patience. Don't expect the pieces to immediately fit.

[Tippaporn]

You know Pete....oh you don`t mind me calling you Pete do you?

I think you once said quote... "Don`t expect others to be able to see through your eyes it can`t be done..."  and "It`s impossible to get inside someone else`s head and look through their eyes..."

Yes you will probably say that I have misinterpreted these comments or situation.

This topic was originally about the Thai government`s warning for people to be alert in Bangkok because of the murderous deeds perpetrated by the extreme element in the South of Thailand.

I basically do not want to be told by you or anybody else that this situation would not have happened if we all had followed your ideals and that I have to view this and life with a new concept.

The fact is this:-  There are cold blooded murdering power seeking fanatics in the Kingdom of Thailand...and they are real and they are here now.

It is not a game Pete...and make no mistake about it these people would not hesitate to obliterate you as well, without a second thought, if it meant that you were in the way of them achieving their warped aims.

As A German you should understand as much if not more than most that there are times when Fanatics and murderers have to be brought to justice and that this cannot be achieved by willful fantasies and ideals that are no longer pertinent to the situation.

These people want to take away by force the freedom of others including ourselves and our choice to live peacefully the way we wish, and I think that you once said Pete, " It is all about everyone making their own choices, which is our inherent freedom and birth right ."

Your assumptions in your last post are very far from accurate and you seem to be wallowing trying to justify your previous posts which quite franky don`t merit an indepth analysis because they do not relate to this topic....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pattaya_Fox, yes, if the truth be known you misinterpret, also. And I believe you'll be prone to do so no matter what I say. You're not the first and you won't be the last. Mai pen rai.

Choke dee mak.

Pete

[Nam Kao]

Fire Porkchops and Ham missiles at em, that'll scare em

[Nam Kao]

Jeepers a big warm liberal group hug with these terrorists will stop them

They wont kill me after i show them my cute little peace sign my friend Ajarn gave me.

We just have to "understand them" and all will be swell thru my new cool rose colored shades

They are so coooll man...

HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA, hey lets invite em all to our next FULL MOON party

and dude I know they'll totally chill out and forget about killing us, man I am an

einstein..... so coool

WOOOEE What was that BRIGHT FLASH! WOE DUDES LOOK A HUGE MUSHROOM

CLOUD OVER BANGKOK DUDES!!! WOW THATS REALLY COOOOLLLLL!!!

Tis is a ROCKIN place man, chill city!

Edited April 6, 2005 by Nam Kao

[hopeless]

Sorry to dissapoint but there is no way to end the terror attacks unless WOMD are used. The whole reason these extremists are doing what they are doing is because they want power, they want to control the world and have everyone follow thier religion, and there are potentially millions of extremists out there.

If a holy city was nuked, and threats were made that for every muslim attack there would be another nuclear bomb on a holy city they WILL get the message and back off. Innocent people will die of course, but innocent people are dieing everywhere from terrorist attcks, wars, genocide.

The Americans have killed so many innocent people in Iraq they would have been better off nuking bagdad

Not that im for the use of WOMD - I was just stressing an observation