Red-shirts Postpones Gathering Indefinitely

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Red-shirts Postpones Gathering Indefinitely

UPDATE : 25 November 2009

The red-shirt group has decided to postpone this weekend's gathering indefinitely following widespread opposition against the rally due to the fact that it is being held close to HM the King's birthday on December 5.

Red-shirt leader Weera Musikapong said the leaders will meet again in mid-December to decide their next move.

Earlier this morning, fugitive former PM Thaksin Shinawatra also called on the red-shirt group to reconsider its gathering.

-- Tan Network 2009/11/25

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[Wolfie]

I read a similar report which said

Veera Musigapong, a red-shirt leader, said the movement decided to postpone the rally because the government has decided to enforce the International Security Act during the celebrations of His Majesty the King's birthday. "In making such decision, the government showed that it has no maturity and is uncivilized so the red shirts would like to show responsibility by postponing the rally," Veera said.

Do these guys actually beleive any of the c**p that comes out of their mouths?

[Asa]

Postonement is very much welcome, and appreciated.

[hammered]

I read a similar report which said

Veera Musigapong, a red-shirt leader, said the movement decided to postpone the rally because the government has decided to enforce the International Security Act during the celebrations of His Majesty the King's birthday. "In making such decision, the government showed that it has no maturity and is uncivilized so the red shirts would like to show responsibility by postponing the rally," Veera said.

Do these guys actually beleive any of the c**p that comes out of their mouths?

The timing of it had given the government an advantage. Several red leaders had commented negatively on the timing. They have to spin it best they can. They also have a large and effective PR system and will spread their version, so as to not look like they made a mistake or backed down.

The good thing is that it may give a calm New Year period although after that it will no doubt get back to normal. Little skirmishes and manouvers now. The main course is still to come.

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Red shirts indefinitely postpones rally from Sunday

The red-shirt movement announced Wednesday that it will indefinitely postpone its rally from Sunday.

Veera Musigapong, a red-shirt leader, said the movement decided to postpone the rally because the government has decided to enforce the International Security Act during the celebrations of His Majesty the King's birthday.

"In making such decision, the government showed that it lacks of maturity and education so the red shirts would like to show responsibility by postponing the rally," Veera said.

He said the red-shirt leaders will decide about the rally date again in the middle of December.

-- The Nation 2009/11/25

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[bkkjames]

So if the Government didn't invoke the ISA, would that mean it would still go ahead as planned. Do tell Khun Veera.

[Meridian007]

To me this signals that a plan "B" has been found in regards to his assets case in court. I'm sure we'll see him play his next card within the next 2 weeks.

[Thailand]

To me this signals that a plan "B" has been found in regards to his assets case in court. I'm sure we'll see him play his next card within the next 2 weeks.

Seems like an astute observation. Major behind the scenes negotiations perhaps.

[Tony121]

it might also have been postponed because Thaksins asset case has been set back and now they don't expect to have a verdict until January.

[hammered]

Or maybe both

or maybe neither

Edited November 25, 2009 by hammered

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PRO-THAKSIN MASS RALLY

Red shirted protest postponed indefinitely : Veera

By The Nation

Red shirted leaders on Wednesday decided to postpone indefinitely mass demonstration scheduled to start this weekend, shortly after fugitive ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra suggested it was not the right time to rally.

Veera Musikapong, a red shirted leader, claimed in a press briefing that the postponement was decided after Abhisit government invoked internal security laws in Bangkok.

The government on Tuesday issued the laws in Bangkok ahead of the pro-Thaksin mass rally which are scheduled to start on November 28 until December 14.

"The issuance of the laws clearly indicated that Abhisit government was immature and uneducated," Veera said.

The red shirts then postponed the rally to show responsibility, Veera said.

The red shirted leaders will meet again mid of December to decide the next move.

The postponement came after Thaksin urged his supporters to delay the rally this weekend, saying that it is an inappropriate time as it is close to His Majesty the King's birthday.

Thaksin commented as he addressed a meeting of the opposition Puea Thai members of parliament via video link on Tuesday night.

Thaksin reasoned that the public disagreed with the timing of the protest as it was not the right time. He then urged the Red Shirt leaders to review their plan as a number of Puea Thai MPs also disagreed with the idea.

-- The Nation 2009/11/25

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[baht&sold]

'Coincidentally', Mr Thaksin's 76 billion baht assets seisure case was extended yesterday.

Final witness hearing now moved forward to Dec 8th.

Supreme court has 30 days from closing witness to deliver a verdict.

A convenient reprieve all around.

However, it ain't over until square-faced Frank sings 'MYYYYY Waaaayyy'....

[Wolfie]

So organising a mass demonstration/rally is perfectly fine, but if the Government put in security policies to protect the people and infrastructure of the nations Capital, its immature and uneducated, am i reading that correctly?

Pot, Kettle, Black anyone?

[pedro01]

My guess - they saw that attendance would be low & decided not to run it.

[bkkjames]

My guess - they saw that attendance would be low & decided not to run it.

Good call Pedro. The organizers maybe could see that the the Million Baht March would only turn up a couple thousand.

[Dpolenz]

So organising a mass demonstration/rally is perfectly fine, but if the Government put in security policies to protect the people and infrastructure of the nations Capital, its immature and uneducated, am i reading that correctly?

Pot, Kettle, Black anyone?

And what do you expect them to say?yellow,red whatever they r both as bad as each other.It's funny us foreigners here debating like we are political experts when it aint even our country and when most of us are just expats <deleted> .

Edited November 25, 2009 by Dpolenz

[bkkjames]

So organising a mass demonstration/rally is perfectly fine, but if the Government put in security policies to protect the people and infrastructure of the nations Capital, its immature and uneducated, am i reading that correctly?

Pot, Kettle, Black anyone?

And what do you expect them to say?yellow,red whatever they r both as bad as each other.It's funny us foreigners here debating like we are political experts when it aint even our country and when most of us are just expats <deleted> .

Well if we don't debate it DP, who will?

[givenall]

Postonement is very much welcome, and appreciated.

It is because they have to change all their posters to make sure they have the new Mr. Shit (T) name correct

[sabaijai]

The order came from above.

Thaksin to Red Shirts: 'postpone rally, it's not right time'

BANGKOK, Nov 25 (TNA) - Fugitive ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday urged his supporters in Thailand to urge the key 'Red Shirt' leaders of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) to postpone the group's demonstration this weekend, saying that it is an inappropriate time, being close to His Majesty the King's birthday.

Mr Thaksin commented as he addressed a meeting of the opposition Puea Thai members of parliament via video link, according to Puea Thai MP Surapong Tovichakchaikul.

The ousted premier reasoned that the public disagreed with the timing of the upcoming UDD protest as it is not appropriate, Mr Surapong explained, so he urged the Red Shirt leaders to review their plan as a number of Puea Thai MPs also disagreed with the idea.

Red Shirt leaders earlier announced that they will stage a major protest in many areas of Bangkok to topple the Abhisit Vejjajiva administration starting this Saturday and continuing through December 2, with a plan to resume after the king's birthday.

Mr Thaksin also urged the MPs to prepare for the general election, saying he is confident it will be held in the first half of next year, according to Mr Surapong.

The ex-prime minister said he will leave Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, to travel to many places beginning Saturday and will be near Thailand during the New Year.

The Abhisit government earlier advised the UDD to postpone its rally as the main site is used to rehearse the annual Trooping of the Colours of the Royal Guard and preparations for activities to mark the birthday of His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej during the protest period.

The Cabinet on Tuesday resolved to invoke Internal Security Act (ISA) in the Thai capital from November 28 to December 14 to maintain law and order during the UDD protest as the anti-government group planned to march to many important spots.

Meanwhile, key UDD leader Jatuporn Prompan said that it is not surprising that the government enforced the ISA, but he did not expect that the ISA timeframe would be as long as announced.

Mr Jatuporn said it is not appropriate that the Thai people celebrate the king's birthday (December 5) under a security clampdown. He said the government should apply the act only from November 28 to December 2, the group's announced protesting period.

"The UDD leaders will meet Wednesday to consider whether to continue the rally," Mr Jatuporn said, "The outcome of the meeting could be both to continue or postpone the protest." (TNA)

Political News : Last Update : 09:06:18 25 November 2009 (GMT+7:00)

-- TNA 2009/11/25

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Suthep: Govt will not cancel ISA enforcement for now

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said Wednesday that the government will have to monitor the situation for some time before deciding whether to cancel the enforcement of the Internal Security Act or not.

Suthep said although the red-shirt movement announced the indefinite postponement of its rally, the government would have yet to monitor the situation for a while.

-- The Nation 2009/11/25

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[losworld]

Suthep: Govt will not cancel ISA enforcement for now

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said Wednesday that the government will have to monitor the situation for some time before deciding whether to cancel the enforcement of the Internal Security Act or not.

Suthep said although the red-shirt movement announced the indefinite postponement of its rally, the government would have yet to monitor the situation for a while.

-- The Nation 2009/11/25

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Takki or whatever he calls himself is finished.  Perhaps he has gone mad? 

[Wolfie]

And what do you expect them to say?yellow,red whatever they r both as bad as each other.It's funny us foreigners here debating like we are political experts when it aint even our country and when most of us are just expats <deleted> .

Unless i am mistaken, we are still allowed to have an opinion on such matters

[frodo]

So organising a mass demonstration/rally is perfectly fine, but if the Government put in security policies to protect the people and infrastructure of the nations Capital, its immature and uneducated, am i reading that correctly?

Pot, Kettle, Black anyone?

You took the words right of my mouth. I was thinking the exact same thing as I read this. Thankfully, this has been postponed.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

And what do you expect them to say?yellow,red whatever they r both as bad as each other.It's funny us foreigners here debating like we are political experts when it aint even our country and when most of us are just expats <deleted> .

Unless i am mistaken, we are still allowed to have an opinion on such matters

We are allowed to have an opinion, but are we allowed to voice it? Not according to Mr. Suthep; he basically said that freedom of expression applies only to Thais, and that any foreigners engaging in political activity will be found and arrested.

That's pretty scary language, from a guy I already thought to be as bad/scary as any of the old political dinosaurs.

[Artisi]

Postponed, hope they haven't pre-paid the attendance money .

[SiamWallaby]

Oh it wasn't the right timing due to the proximity of the Kings Birthday? So between the time they planned it, and announced it, they just now realized its the Kings Birthday?

Face saving B.S. as per usual.

And of course nothing to do with the asset case being postponed.

I sure hope that *WE* arent the only ones who see through this.

[Wolfie]

We are allowed to have an opinion, but are we allowed to voice it? Not according to Mr. Suthep; he basically said that freedom of expression applies only to Thais, and that any foreigners engaging in political activity will be found and arrested.

That's pretty scary language, from a guy I already thought to be as bad/scary as any of the old political dinosaurs.

Your source?

[h90]

And what do you expect them to say?yellow,red whatever they r both as bad as each other.It's funny us foreigners here debating like we are political experts when it aint even our country and when most of us are just expats <deleted> .

Unless i am mistaken, we are still allowed to have an opinion on such matters

We are allowed to have an opinion, but are we allowed to voice it? Not according to Mr. Suthep; he basically said that freedom of expression applies only to Thais, and that any foreigners engaging in political activity will be found and arrested.

That's pretty scary language, from a guy I already thought to be as bad/scary as any of the old political dinosaurs.

He means rented foreign thugs (with a lot rumors about weapons) who are not interested at politics at all.

He did not mean red or yellow farangs with opinions.

[jif]

Red Shirts rally to oust Abhisit government Nov 28

UDD key leader Nattawut Saikua said the protest at the Suan Misakawan intersection will continue through December 2, with more than one million Red Shirt activists expected to call for the end of the Democrat-led coalition government.

I didn't think they would get a million, but to get zero is lower than I expected.

Nattawut seems oddly quiet now. I've not seen his comments today.

[baht&sold]

We are allowed to have an opinion, but are we allowed to voice it? Not according to Mr. Suthep; he basically said that freedom of expression applies only to Thais, and that any foreigners engaging in political activity will be found and arrested.

That's pretty scary language, from a guy I already thought to be as bad/scary as any of the old political dinosaurs.

Your source?

Whinnie appears to be very 'loosely' quoting from another member whom had in turn paraphrased (with similar spin;) from the paper which is not in TV's alliance. The disinformation campaign grows in the re-telling.

Anyone with common sense knows that Suthep (a minor piece of work himself imho) was referring to migrant workers being herded up as an abundant source of potential 'rent a crowd' protesters. Nice try guys.