Jatuporn: MFA's confidential plan to "get rid of" Thaksin

BANGKOK: -- Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya has sent a confidential memorandum to the prime minister recommending for the elimination of fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan said on Friday.

Jatuporn said Kasit saw Thaksin as a most serious threat to the government and a root cause for the soured relations between Thailand and Cambodia.

"Kasit has outlined his action plans, including the varying-degree of measures to signal to Cambodia, and recommended to get rid of the root cause of the problem," he said.

-- The Nation 2009-12-18

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Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

Edited December 18, 200916 yr by jaiyenjohn

agree, slightly worrying !

Jatuporn crying "wolf" again?

Perhaps a translation issue?

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

You believe Jataporn? This whole news clip is just unsubstantiated nonsense.

in any case, Takki may be doing the job on himself. Have you seen his recent pictures?

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

You believe Jataporn? This whole news clip is just unsubstantiated nonsense.

Ok. good point, I assumed that to make an allegation like that Jataporn would actually have the letter as proof. I mean no one would make an allegation about something so over-the-top serious without something substantial to back it up right? But I suppose TIT.

However, thailand does have some remarkably strict laws about libel, slander, and defamation of character. I can't see the foreign minister not reacting to this if there's no proof.

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

You believe Jataporn? This whole news clip is just unsubstantiated nonsense.

Ok. good point, I assumed that to make an allegation like that Jataporn would actually have the letter as proof. I mean no one would make an allegation about something so over-the-top serious without something substantial to back it up right? But I suppose TIT.

However, thailand does have some remarkably strict laws about libel, slander, and defamation of character. I can't see the foreign minister not reacting to this if there's no proof.

You make some valid points, the problem is that Jataporn and the rest of that group of cronies have been making all sorts of nonsense statements, so it really is difficult to sift out the muck from the truth most of the time.

Jataporn - "WOLF...WOLF!!"

The government should make even stronger effort to catch Thailand's No. 1 most wanted fugitive, after the one in Canada has been sent home. Isn't aiding and abetting a fugitive a crime?

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

I think there might be a slight misinterpretation from the Thai statement, surely he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" not assassinate the man! I know there are a lot of people who would like to see the back of him, as he is really damaging to Thailand and the Thai people.

Takki is a very clever person yet at the same time appears to be extremely stupid.

Wait, why would it be illegal to perform an 'political assassination [on foreign soil]' [sic]? The term has nothing to do with actually killing someone, only to torpedo their ability to get elected. Which all campaigns are fairly focused on in the west when it comes to people as oppose to parties being in the focus...

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

I think there might be a slight misinterpretation from the Thai statement, surely he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" not assassinate the man! I know there are a lot of people who would like to see the back of him, as he is really damaging to Thailand and the Thai people.

Takki is a very clever person yet at the same time appears to be extremely stupid.

'he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" ' is that a personal view or do you hace a source

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

I think there might be a slight misinterpretation from the Thai statement, surely he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" not assassinate the man! I know there are a lot of people who would like to see the back of him, as he is really damaging to Thailand and the Thai people.

Takki is a very clever person yet at the same time appears to be extremely stupid.

'he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" ' is that a personal view or do you hace a source

No I have no source, its only my guess, perhaps a qualified person can shed light on what was really said (translation).

Inflammatory posts have been removed. Lets refrain from political invective, thanks.

As for calling Thaksin Takki, while he did, apparently legally adopt the name as displayed in a passport, lets keep things from getting too complicated and try to refer to him as Thaksin, thanks.

Wow. I mean. Wow.

What goes through someone's head to WRITE DOWN a recommendation for political assassination on foreign soil?

I mean everyone new that they had considered it, but with written proof, doesn't the Foreign Minister now open himself up to a variety of criminal charges?

I think there might be a slight misinterpretation from the Thai statement, surely he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" not assassinate the man! I know there are a lot of people who would like to see the back of him, as he is really damaging to Thailand and the Thai people.

Takki is a very clever person yet at the same time appears to be extremely stupid.

'he meant to say "Eliminate the Taksin problem" ' is that a personal view or do you hace a source

No I have no source, its only my guess, perhaps a qualified person can shed light on what was really said (translation).

Thanks for that fast reply.

I think - my view only - that the foreign minister will now say that he meant eliminate the problem or say he referred to political assassination. In that sense I agree with you though of course we may both be wrong .. TIT

You believe Jataporn? This whole news clip is just unsubstantiated nonsense.

Ok. good point, I assumed that to make an allegation like that Jataporn would actually have the letter as proof. I mean no one would make an allegation about something so over-the-top serious without something substantial to back it up right? But I suppose TIT.

However, thailand does have some remarkably strict laws about libel, slander, and defamation of character. I can't see the foreign minister not reacting to this if there's no proof.

Going on his past form, Jatuporn possible has heard a tape, of the FM writing the letter ?

I would agree, that it's more likely, he is writing about how to eliminate a problem, not the man himself. If assasination were a serious option, it would surely have been used long ago, I welcome that it hasn't been so used.

The Nation dixit :' recommending for the elimination of ' T ..... i had a look at some Dictionnary.......

Very interesting ended. Funny (N)(n)ations . Just Like it

So, the recent spying thing may have been a little more serious than some people thought.

If anyone believes anything coming from Jatuporn's mouth, then they are mental. Even that guy's own mother thinks he's a space cadet. True - google it. or just check it out here lol (Sorry, no link to that newspaper).

(I hope its not TV illegal to provide a link?)

Edited December 18, 200916 yr by Scott
See the forum rules/no link/Scott

Well, let's see, now we're reduced to asking his mother!

If anyone believes anything coming from Jatuporn's mouth, then they are mental. Even that guy's own mother thinks he's a space cadet. True - google it. or just check it out here lol (link edited out)

(I hope its not TV illegal to provide a link?)

No I wouldn't believe or disbelieve. So you are saying that he is not credible but that his opposition are? I don't need Google to see how absurd that is, why do you?

So, Jatuporn claims to have seen a private memo from Kasit to Abhisit. How did he get it? Wouldn't that be spying? Hold a show trial and lock him up. I doubt very much we'll see his mother weeping on television. There can be no doubt about the authenticity of this claim. After all, Jatuporn has a proven track record of exposing material embarrassing to the government. Didn't he put out a recording of Abhisit inciting violence against red protestors? Oh no, that was proved to be a fake. Okay, but didn't he reveal that Cambodia had a recording of Kasit ordering Siwarak to "spy" on them? Afraid not, even the Cambodians denied that one. Wolf wolf indeed. Or, given the Pavlovian salivating by some members of the forum everytime Jatuporn opens his mouth and they see a faint chance of attacking the government, maybe woof woof is more appropriate.

So, Jatuporn claims to have seen a private memo from Kasit to Abhisit. How did he get it? Wouldn't that be spying? Hold a show trial and lock him up. I doubt very much we'll see his mother weeping on television. There can be no doubt about the authenticity of this claim. After all, Jatuporn has a proven track record of exposing material embarrassing to the government. Didn't he put out a recording of Abhisit inciting violence against red protestors? Oh no, that was proved to be a fake. Okay, but didn't he reveal that Cambodia had a recording of Kasit ordering Siwarak to "spy" on them? Afraid not, even the Cambodians denied that one. Wolf wolf indeed. Or, given the Pavlovian salivating by some members of the forum everytime Jatuporn opens his mouth and they see a faint chance of attacking the government, maybe woof woof is more appropriate.

As usual ballpoint hits the nail squarely on the head.

I just love Jatuporn's daily dose of simplistic rubbish.

Today he says that Kasit and the MFA have a plan to "get rid" of Thaksin...if the Thai to English translation is correct.

I would say that if they are doing their job properly, whilst "getting rid of him" is not the correct thing to do, for a country who supposedly follow the rules of law, they should at least be doing their best, to bring about his capture and return to Thailand, to 1. go to jail and 2. to stand trial for the other offences he is charged with committing - particularly those which cannot proceed in his abscence.

So, I fail to see what Jatuporn has to whinge about.

Oh, but I forgot, he has no respect for the Thai legal system.

Their might be good reasons to believe that things are not as they seem, but to continualy play his childish games helps no one.

Surely there are some (lots) in the Reds and PTT who can see this guy is an embarassment to their cause.

Edited December 18, 200916 yr by RegularReader

Surely there are some (lots) in the Reds and PTT who can see this guy is an embarassment to their cause.

Their cause itself is an embarrassment, as too their figurehead, so a few embarrassing characters in the fold doesn't really make much difference.

Confidential as in High School Confidential?

Remember when a girl in class would pass a "secret" note saying a boy was dreamy, and by recess, it was all over the school that Big Ethel had a crush on Mike the Mullet?

So, the recent spying thing may have been a little more serious than some people thought.

shhh it's confidential.

The secret lives of Thailand's politicians: One big retarded soap opera.

Surely there are some (lots) in the Reds and PTT who can see this guy is an embarassment to their cause.

Their cause itself is an embarrassment, as too their figurehead, so a few embarrassing characters in the fold doesn't really make much difference.

I don't think the "cause" itself is an embarrassment.

What is deplorable, is that so many of the so called "leaders" - especially the "figure-head" are either, as corrupt and uncaring of the masses, as those they wish to replace, or just incompetant.

I have always maintained, Thaksin did a lot "right", for the "wrong" reasons...and still does, although his invincability is starting to wane.

But, let's not get into an anti-Thaksin rant and take this topic off on a well-worn path.

Edited December 18, 200916 yr by RegularReader

If there's a plan in the government to get rid of the Thaksin problem, presumably by shutting him out completely, I don't see how it would be put into writing or how Jatuporn could get his eyes onto it, much less that it would be written by the FM, especially Kasit the FM.

Any such plan would be characteristically Thai and also Cambodian (as well as Asean), ie, quitely verbal and behind the scenes amidst bags of cash and a carefully crafted give and take with lotsa knives for distribution for the round of multiple backstabbings that would flow from such a scheme.

What could a public offer of a truce to Hun Sen, initiated by Kasit, possibly contain to as much as get Hun's attention never mind consideration? It could be possible that because Thailand has put the MOU on a stick as some leverage, Asean could encourage an amicable settlement and public reconciliation to give both sides cover and that Thaksin could be discharged as economics advisor to Hun, but how realistic would such a weak scenario be? Not much.

Thaksin knows from his rapid and precipitous deterioration of the past few months he's being aced out of the picture. That alone is literally killing him. So why would the government want to cap it off in an un-Thai way with a public fanfare of ruffles and flourishes as it tears the brass buttons off his white uniform while shredding his awards and previous honors?

I just don't see how such a plan could ever make its way into writing or be credibly received given the zany nature of Jatuporn.     

Inflammatory posts have been removed. Lets refrain from political invective, thanks.

As for calling Thaksin Takki, while he did, apparently legally adopt the name as displayed in a passport, lets keep things from getting too complicated and try to refer to him as Thaksin, thanks.

Over the top.