Thai Govt To Grant Bt11 Billion More To Village Funds

[webfact]

Govt to grant Bt11 billion more to village funds

The national committee on village and community funds Friday agreed to grant Bt1 million more to each of 11,000 village funds.

The committee meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Abhisit said the 11,000 village funds constituted 60 per cent of all village funds.

-- The Nation 2010-01-15

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[katasyd]

Got to keep them happy out in the sticks, you never know when you might need their vote.

[Thai at Heart]

Isn't that a populist move? Where is Sondhi when you need him to bang a drum.

In reality though, finally Abhsist learns what makes the country tick.

[samuibeachcomber]

is this why they could only afford 600,000 baht donation to haiti relief efforts?

[Davidusaf99]

Any money that Thailand could contribute would be dwarfed by western donations - what they could do, is send over a couple ships of that rice that been in the storehouses for months.

[samuibeachcomber]

Any money that Thailand could contribute would be dwarfed by western donations - what they could do, is send over a couple ships of that rice that been in the storehouses for months.

yes they could do that,but no one expects them to match donations from rich countries,but 600,000 baht is an insult.

[webfact]

This topic is about the "Village Fund" not about Haiti aide

Please stay on topic

[gotlost]

Gee I wonder if my wifes uncle will get a pay raise. He is on the village payroll of the headman.

[samuitone]

is this why they could only afford 600,000 baht donation to haiti relief efforts?

They haven't got their hands on Mr T's money yet !!

[londonthai]

at the moment it's only a promise, which might never materialise - right now the government is very unstable

[animatic]

Isn't that a populist move? Where is Sondhi when you need him to bang a drum.

In reality though, finally Abhsist learns what makes the country tick.

We agree on this.

If one considers the cat is out of the bag, or Pandora's box is now open wide,

NOT disseminating national tax income based assets across the WHOLE of Thailand,

is not a move than can be pulled off anymore.

If this is even handed across the regional spectrum,

then it is reasonably socialist, if not specifically populist as a political control move..

Thaksin directed most all his village funds exclusively towards his TRT voting constituencies,

if Abhisit sends this round equally to ALL Thai segments in need, then this IS a good move,

if evenly applied for all Thai villages in need of support.

The old days are gone and good thing,

so what needs to be done is now easier to do.

Since more people actually expect and accept it's inevitability.

[tig28]

Isn't that a populist move? Where is Sondhi when you need him to bang a drum.

In reality though, finally Abhsist learns what makes the country tick.

We agree on this.

If one considers the cat is out of the bag, or Pandora's box is now open wide,

NOT disseminating national tax income based assets across the WHOLE of Thailand,

is not a move than can be pulled off anymore.

If this is even handed across the regional spectrum,

then it is reasonably socialist, if not specifically populist as a political control move..

Thaksin directed most all his village funds exclusively towards his TRT voting constituencies,

if Abhisit sends this round equally to ALL Thai segments in need, then this IS a good move,

if evenly applied for all Thai villages in need of support.

The old days are gone and good thing,

so what needs to be done is now easier to do.

Since more people actually expect and accept it's inevitability.

Hi animatic

When you state "NOT disseminating national tax income based assets across the WHOLE of Thailand,

is not a move than can be pulled off anymore."

You seem to overlook this type of thing as reported:

Boonjong escapes NACC sanction over cash hand-outs

By The Nation

Published on November 4, 2009

The National Anti-Corruption Commission yesterday dismissed a compliant against Deputy Interior Minister Boonjong Wongtrairat over his involvement in cash hand-outs in Nakhon Ratchasima.

The NACC ruled that the incident took place before Boonjong assumed office and that there was no evidence of foul play to implicate him in exploiting government funds.

The case came to light in January after the Social Development and Human Security Ministry allocated Bt100,000 budget as cash hand-outs to 200 villagers in Chok Chai district, which is seen as Boonjong's political stronghold.

The ministry and the district jointly organised a ceremony to distribute the cash. Boonjong was present at the ceremony as it took place at his residence.

Local authorities said they had to relocate the ceremony because the district hall had been reserved for another event.

Following the ceremony, Boonjong gave his name cards to villagers. His opponents argued Boonjong was trying to claim credit for the cash.

In his rebuttal, he said he gave out cards only to supporters who wanted his phone number in order to keep in touch.

Only 200 people @ 5,000 Bt each! ....... Boonjong's political stronghold.......And at Boonjong's home !! And before he assumed office

"he gave out cards only to supporters who wanted his phone number in order to keep in touch"

I agree with you that the times are changing --- this mob are even more blatant!!

[MAJIC]

Just let me get this right now.

When Taksin sent the money out he was accused of corruption, vote buying and election rigging.

So now Abisit is showing he is corrupt, vote buying and election rigging.

Where is the EC (whatever that is ) now.

((edit))

Vote buying of course,but if present and previous PMs do the same then it becomes a level playing field,so could it be construed as normal Politics or not?

[kartman]

Gee I wonder if my wifes uncle will get a pay raise. He is on the village payroll of the headman.

No but he may get to ride in his new truck .

[David006]

Gee I wonder if my wifes uncle will get a pay raise. He is on the village payroll of the headman.

No but he may get to ride in his new truck .

:D so true...maybe he'll also put 100m of blacktop in front of his house to stop it getting dusty....lol See it all the time here in the sticks...morse code of dirt and blacktop..wife says its the orbitor "need new truck so not finish all road"..lol

[malzy]

Hi

My mates Thai wife from a rice farm in Petchabun replied to my question about two years ago."Why dont you like Thaksin he gave villages money?" her reply "Now villages owe big money not before". So there seems a down side to all that handed out money.

Cheers malzy

[tig28]

Just let me get this right now.

When Taksin sent the money out he was accused of corruption, vote buying and election rigging.

So now Abisit is showing he is corrupt, vote buying and election rigging.

Where is the EC (whatever that is ) now.

((edit))

Vote buying of course,but if present and previous PMs do the same then it becomes a level playing field,so could it be construed as normal Politics or not?

Hi MAJIC

I could not agree with you more ----- but this type of thinking does not seem to have any impact on the "Thaksin is the Great Satan" group ---- they can see no corruption etc.whatsoever --- under the Democrats.

[Ricardo]

Just let me get this right now.

When Taksin sent the money out he was accused of corruption, vote buying and election rigging.

So now Abisit is showing he is corrupt, vote buying and election rigging.

Where is the EC (whatever that is ) now.

((edit))

You accuse Abhisit of "vote buying and election rigging" above.

Just what election is he buying votes in ? There is no election underway at present, so how can he be rigging any vote ?

[lopburi3]

Post removed for misuse of names. Use proper names. Replies edited.

[poldebol]

Any money that Thailand could contribute would be dwarfed by western donations - what they could do, is send over a couple ships of that rice that been in the storehouses for months.

yes they could do that,but no one expects them to match donations from rich countries,but 600,000 baht is an insult.

Thailand is a very rich country with too many poor people.

[siggie2]

Got to keep them happy out in the sticks, you never know when you might need their vote.

Wonder how much Bangkok reidents will get when the flooding starts,but farangs get nowt heheheheheh.Got to accept the STICKS peoples votes control everything in Thailand, now think about that one,farang

[siggie2]

Any money that Thailand could contribute would be dwarfed by western donations - what they could do, is send over a couple ships of that rice that been in the storehouses for months.

yes they could do that,but no one expects them to match donations from rich countries,but 600,000 baht is an insult.

Thailand is a very rich country with too many poor people.

Totaly agree,then they still moan when majority rules.About time Issan ran the country and throw out all hi-so chinese thais who rape the country and dont contribute nothing for the growth.Also throw out the farangs hi-so wannabees too,a cancer of thailand

[Thai at Heart]

Any money that Thailand could contribute would be dwarfed by western donations - what they could do, is send over a couple ships of that rice that been in the storehouses for months.

yes they could do that,but no one expects them to match donations from rich countries,but 600,000 baht is an insult.

Thailand is a very rich country with too many poor people.

Totaly agree,then they still moan when majority rules.About time Issan ran the country and throw out all hi-so chinese thais who rape the country and dont contribute nothing for the growth.Also throw out the farangs hi-so wannabees too,a cancer of thailand

Raping the country and contributing nothing may be reason to throw people out of the country. Whether true or not, that is your perogative. If being a net contributor is the issue about whether someone should stay in the country, I would suggest you leave the wannabee farangs well alone.

[animatic]

Isn't that a populist move? Where is Sondhi when you need him to bang a drum.

In reality though, finally Abhsist learns what makes the country tick.

We agree on this.

If one considers the cat is out of the bag, or Pandora's box is now open wide,

NOT disseminating national tax income based assets across the WHOLE of Thailand,

is not a move than can be pulled off anymore.

If this is even handed across the regional spectrum,

then it is reasonably socialist, if not specifically populist as a political control move..

Thaksin directed most all his village funds exclusively towards his TRT voting constituencies,

if Abhisit sends this round equally to ALL Thai segments in need, then this IS a good move,

if evenly applied for all Thai villages in need of support.

The old days are gone and good thing,

so what needs to be done is now easier to do.

Since more people actually expect and accept it's inevitability.

Hi animatic

When you state "NOT disseminating national tax income based assets across the WHOLE of Thailand,

is not a move than can be pulled off anymore."

You seem to overlook this type of thing as reported:

Boonjong escapes NACC sanction over cash hand-outs

By The Nation

Published on November 4, 2009

The National Anti-Corruption Commission yesterday dismissed a compliant against Deputy Interior Minister Boonjong Wongtrairat over his involvement in cash hand-outs in Nakhon Ratchasima.

The NACC ruled that the incident took place before Boonjong assumed office and that there was no evidence of foul play to implicate him in exploiting government funds.

The case came to light in January after the Social Development and Human Security Ministry allocated Bt100,000 budget as cash hand-outs to 200 villagers in Chok Chai district, which is seen as Boonjong's political stronghold.

The ministry and the district jointly organised a ceremony to distribute the cash. Boonjong was present at the ceremony as it took place at his residence.

Local authorities said they had to relocate the ceremony because the district hall had been reserved for another event.

Following the ceremony, Boonjong gave his name cards to villagers. His opponents argued Boonjong was trying to claim credit for the cash.

In his rebuttal, he said he gave out cards only to supporters who wanted his phone number in order to keep in touch.

Only 200 people @ 5,000 Bt each! ....... Boonjong's political stronghold.......And at Boonjong's home !! And before he assumed office

"he gave out cards only to supporters who wanted his phone number in order to keep in touch"

I agree with you that the times are changing --- this mob are even more blatant!!

Yes clearly Boonjong is a boondoggle.

The old ways die heard and each nip and tuck against the flabby extremities

of the coming NEW THAILAND

regardless of party affiliation is a good step forward.

Clearly this guy hasn't gotten the memo.

As I see the party that cleans up the most and the fastest,

and still provide needed services will be the long term winner.

[Dustybin]

Very fine gesture from all the not so rich bangkok yellowshirts to subsidise the issan farmers from their taxes.

See how long that lasts.

[animatic]

More likely global corporate taxes, at least those that get paid.

And excise and other general point of sale taxes, gas taxes, sin taxes etc.

[tig28]

Clearly this guy hasn't gotten the memo.

As I see the party that cleans up the most and the fastest,

and still provide needed services will be the long term winner.

No argument !!

I have 2 questions about this "grant". Is this money "gifted" to the 11,000 villages? For what reason?

Re your post above --- My own belief is that the Democrats SHOULD find it easier to present a vastly less corrupt organization to the country --- but animatic please don't overlook the many examples of corrupt practices under their stewardship ------ practices that would have had the operators of "the bad old days" green with envy!

I say envy becuse frequently this corruption is perpetrated with significantly more sophistication than was the case in Thaksins day.

Also can you picture the quality of the opposition when the 5 year bans expire and some of the most "impressive" return to the fray??

Another poster added this:

You accuse Abhisit of "vote buying and election rigging" above.

Just what election is he buying votes in ? There is no election underway at present, so how can he be rigging any vote ?

Well if the query was serious---- I would suggest that this type of "grant" of government funds to various villages was a carbon-copy of the type of actions from Thaksin which were labeled "popularist vote buying" by his many critics.

If on the other hand you want an example of a Democrat Candidate being charged by the Electoral Commission with direct "buying" of votes:

15/05/2009 an English language newspaper reported that The Electoral Commission (EC) had charged the Democrat MP for Yasothon with vote buying. This was in a by-election. It obviously had to be a by-election --- as the last thing the Democrats want is a general election. But preparation is key.

Edited January 17, 2010 by tig28