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Abbot wants dog meat taken off menu

The abbot of a local temple yesterday called on San Pa Tong district residents to stop killing and eating dogs.

"I would like to beg for their lives," said Phra Pornpisit Thammatharo of Wat Sawang Arom. He said he was worried that many stray dogs would be killed for their meat this winter, since the district's residents believe it keeps them warm.

Phra Pornpisit said he realised this was an age-old practice in the area, but killing animals was a sin for Buddhists.

Animal-rights activist Rossukhon Jarassri said she had learned that some 30,000 dogs had recently been captured, ready to be slaughtered this winter.

--The Nation 2003-10-29

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dam- those dog-eater.
Are you vegetarian?(no offense)

What are the differences between a man eating a cow, a pig, a kangaroo, a dog or a cat?

What about this one?

Polar Bear

With 50 per cent of the world's polar bear population, Nunavut is the premier destination for hunting this most prized of big-game trophies. Venturing out in search of nanuq is not for the faint of heart. By international agreement, Nunavut's polar bear hunts must be conducted by traditional methods using dog teams and camping out on the ice. The Hunters and Trappers Organizations (HTO) in each community controls an annual quota for polar bears and, in some cases, also act as the outfitter and provide guiding services.

Barrenground Grizzly Bear

Residing in Nunavut's western regions, a very limited number of these bears are taken annually. Although not as large as their Alaskan cousins, a mature Barrenground Grizzly compares well in size with any inland grizzly. Springtime is the best time of year for these hunts, conducted by snowmobile sled and involving camp outs during the long days of May.

Sport-hunting! Wow! Great Sports?

I'd love it even more when the pray is human!

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No, im not a vegetarian.

meemiathai, do you eat dog? (no offense)

What are the differences between a man eating a cow, a pig, a kangaroo, a dog or a cat
the differences is that over the century dog are bread to be pet, do you see any dog in a city that look whild to you.
like their arent enough stray dogs

stray dogs is still a dog that human created.

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meemiathai, do you eat dog? (no offense)
NO!NEVER!I dislike people who does! But can hardly  give a good reason to convince them not to do so if meat-eating is as normal as it is now worldwide.

over the century dog are bread to be pet
I think perhaps different nations have different concepts.
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As bad as I hate to do it,I got to agree with ARYANATION.

Altho I do not like to see dogs eaten there are to many strays running around hungry,infected with parasites and no one to care for them,mange so bad that their skin is almost bloody,but of coarse that is dogs that belong to a Thai too.They allow them to breed and will not feed them or the pups and they scrounge in the garbage cans to obtain food for a bare living.or kill chickens.

I have spent money on vet bills to care for some of them that belong to Thais in my neighborhood as they will not do it and I hate to see the dogs in such misery.and buy feed and cook rice for them.and some belong to my wife's relatives,had one bitch spayed so she will have no more pups and my wife's family are not poor.Just inconsiderate.

It is more humane to eat them than to let them run around living in the shape that they are,

In 1980 when Mt. St. Helens erupted in longview Wn. we were working on the dredging of the Columbia River and the Chinese Nat. crews on the Jap log carrier ships would go to the HUMANE SHELTER in town while the ships were loading logs and get a dog each,5 or 6 would be leading the dogs back to the ships and from the water you could see them butchering the dogs,,people in town found out about it and started raising #### , some said "no more dogs for the chinks" others said "so what,you were going to kill em anyway and throw the bodys in the dump at least this way they don't go to waste" but anyway,they get no more dogs.

so from what I see as to the care of the dogs and the number of strays and their condition,let the people alone,more humane to kill them than to let them live under the conditions now.

Just as long as I don't have to eat any.

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Frankly, I detest people who eat dogs.

Dogs have been associated with mankind since the begining of time. They are our oldest friends. Domestic dogs are symbiotic on human beings. They cannot exist without us.

I have had many friends in my long life, but none truer than my nine Labrador retrievers, two of whom (Taiko & Aiko) are lying next to me as I type this.

The dog eating habits of many Chinese, Korean, and Vietnam people make me very sad. I believe that the dog lovers of the world should shame those nations into giving up this foul habit. And I don't care about being labled "ethnocentric"in this regard.

By the way, living here, I am extremely gratified that the vast majority of  Thai people seem to feel the same way that I do about using dogs as a source of meat.

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<deleted> it...this apocryphal story regarding chinks in Washington state is bull shit. People in the rural NW of the US don't like foreigners but treasure their dogs. If anyone was found to be roasting dogs for dinner their yellow hide would be flayed and used for lampshades. Hence...chinks getting dogs from the pound for a meal seems unlikely.

Makes a good sensationalist story for a hack features writer in the Portland Oregonian...

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I wouldn't eat dog myself, but can see no problem with others that choose to. As long as it isn't someones pet that has been put in the pot.

A few years back I lived on a couple of acres. We had a couple of sheep and a bullock that were family pets (grass cutters). I wouldn't have ever contemplated eating one of our animals, but it certainly hasn't stopped me from eating lamb or beef.

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Dogs are eaten chiefly in Korea, some parts of China and North Vietnam. The others look down on the dog-eaters.

Japanese look down on Koreans for that, South Vietnamese claim the Northerners to be barbaric dog-eaters.

A few years ago was a big row, Switzerland refused to export any more Bernhardines to Korea for fear they being not used in rescue work or avalanches.

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I wouldn't eat dog myself, but can see no problem with others that choose to. As long as it isn't someones pet that has been put in the pot.

A few years back I lived on a couple of acres. We had a couple of sheep and a bullock that were family pets (grass cutters). I wouldn't have ever contemplated eating one of our animals, but it certainly hasn't stopped me from eating lamb or beef.

That's the spirit Tiz! It's a reality that in most countries (even the so-called "dog-loving" nations, like UK), that far more dogs are born a year than there are people willing to give them good homes. In the West they get given to orgs. like RSPCA and when they build up to unmanagemable numbers some quiet euthanasia is practiced. Here in Thailand, they're given the chance to live by being dumped at the temple and hoping the monks will look after them to their dotage, or sold off to a man in a pick-up truck from Sakhon Nakhon (at least in Isaan), who swaps them for a bucket. It's never the family pet that gets sold off, but the hangers on that are a drain on limited resources. They then get fed-up in some pound before meeting their fate. Very shocking for sensitive Westerners, but it's being going on for along time and is not going to change overnight.

Irrespective of their anthropormphic origins and dependency, dogs by many are regarded as just another farm animal, to be reserved for eating on special occasions. I was once invited to a really out of the way "Brou" village celebration in the wilds of southern Lao. It was really humming and no expense was spared for the guests - huge great clay jars full of sartor (rice wine) were scattered around and even kids were helping themselves to the grog. I sat down on the floor with some village elders and some food was produced. There was a kind of curry and some Bar-b-qued sun-dried meat. It tasted OK ( a tad chewy perhaps) and I asked if it was buffalo. They shook their heads and put some fingers up to their heads as ears and started barking. We all had a good laugh and the party went on. Would I have still eaten it, had I known before what it was? The answer is yes. It was their party and traditions and I'm not so arrogant as to dictate what they should or shouldn't be eating, despite being brought up in a culture that doesn't eat dog meat (apart from the stuff they serve up in cans as Campbells meat balls, etc.).

Having said that, I'm a vocal advocate of animal rights and the right to a decent life and death fro farm animals. The most cruel and vicious establishments on earth are those factory farms which produce food for the urban masses, who wouldn't know the difference between a free-range "gai baan" and hormone-fuelled CP chicken, even if it was in a "bon gai" before them. Enjoy your KFCs folks!

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I don't know who the #### this TUTSIWARRIOR is or how he happens to know about all the folks from the PNW and how they feel,but he is full of shit and before he calls someone a liar, he should check his sources and find out just what the #### he is talking about instead of making himself look like a bigger fool than he apparently is.

I was born and raised on a cattle ranch til I was 15 ,then I left home and started working around the world,first in Alaska as a laborer,then on to other places.

I have all my relatives still living in the PNW as well as some kids,and not everyone from the PNW hates foreigners,if they do, and he must be be from there to be such an expert,what the #### is he doing on this site and most likely living amoung us here?

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kevin...chill out, we all just jivin' around here. Although I am a CA boy I lived in PNW for a while...logging camps in SE Alaska, you know Thorne Bay and the legendary Barney Huddleston?...three years working on high lead out of Springfield, Oregon. I useta see Ken Kesey in the little market when I stopped to by beer on the way home from the shop.

If you were born on a cattle ranch you must be one of them pussies from the other side of the Cascades...never saw a choker or a power saw in your life. Chill out brother...I ain't puttin' you down, but PNW was my life and a good one while it lasted. Unfortunately the hardship of a rough and dangerous living got to me and I returned home and became an engineer to return to the world as an itinerate and uncouth lout available to wind up dumb shit hayseeds everywhere.

There you have it kev...love it or leave it. I got just as much right to be here as yourself...and with probably a lot more intelligence and postings for entertainment purposes.

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tomy...you are depraved. Cute little kittens and little puppy dogs in a stew?...

What about Bambi?

I must admit that I saw cute little guinea pigs brutally slaughtered by a young indigenous woman with nice tits and put into a pot in Bolivia with vegetables and spices resulting in a nice casserole...but I draw the line with puppy dogs...

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TUTSI,OK ,chain pulling is allowed,but I thought that you was calling me a liar,Yea I know what a choker is and how to set em,also I fell some timber when I wanted to stay home for awhile sometimes.And I am from the other side of the cascades,Prineville to be exact.

My first saw when I was young was a 12 1/2 horsepower Mercury two man saw with an 7 foot bar,running scratcher chain, And my last saw was a Mc C,Super Pro 125,test saw,50 inch bar and 404 full skip super chisel, and fell on Mt Adams Washington on the reservation,Never did care for high leads tho.Last job was running a D7 skid cat after I ###### near sawed of my leg.Was told by my wife that if I put my corks[ 17 inch Johnson Super Boots] back on,she was going to the lawyer and I would have to find someplace else to live.

OK, :o

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kevin...none of us wants to choose off and fight. When I read your post about the chinks and the dogs it ran against my experience in PNW. I never accused you of being a liar.

You talking some heavy ordnace with a big McCullough and a 50" bar...you must of been handling some big timber. I never handled anything longer than a 3 foot bar when I was working on the landing. I never was a cutter...only had to fall timber to get stumps for guy lines for the high lead tower as a riggin' man.

I hung up my corks 25 years ago...nailed them to a post in my sister's garage in Pasadena. Good pair of Highline boots...only had 4 months on them...none of the corks had tipped over yet.

Good to communicate with a brother that worked in the woods. Nobody but us knows what it was like...

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Getting back on thread, anyone read the story in today's Post about the 800 + dogs being smuggled across the Mekong on their way to China. Poor mutts. That's just greedy and gross, but suggests the Sakhon Nakhon market is saturated, (or it's just been a particularly good year for dog births?) Thinking about the latter, I have this pet (groan :o ) theory that with all these farang-type dogs being bought by Thais these days, this just means there's more Maggi 57 varieties kicked onto the streets to fend for themselves. Hence, more breeding, interbreeding and more chow for the Chinese. :D

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