Uk Tourist Visa Application

[killblues]

Hello All,

My Thai girl friend will soon be applying for a tourist visa to visit me in the U.K. for a two week holiday. She has had two applications rejected in the past twelve months. The first application was rejected mainly due to my own naievity and lack of knowledge of the 'system' and partly due to her having no wage slips from her job in a Pattaya restaurant.

The second application was again rejected due to a lack of payslips even though her boss wrote a letter explaining that he uses a signed ledger to pay his staff and therefore dosn't give out payslips.

Since the last application my girlfriend has purchased some land in her home town (with financial help from myself) in the hope that this will show the embassy a better reason to return after her trip to the U.K.

She has also recently left her job at the restaurant and is now working as a bar maid/waitress in a bar in Pattaya. The owner of the bar has no problem with giving her the time off for the trip but she tells me that the owner "does not write letters to help with visa applications" and neither do they give out salary/pay slips.

Due to this my girlfriend thinks it would be better not to mention her new job in the application as it would just raise the old issue of a lack of salary slips and she is also worried that the embassy would just think that she is a 'bar girl' (which she is definiteley not) and instantly reject the application. She suggested that she should tell the embassy that she has moved back to her home town to farm the land (which she is thinking about doing anyway).

My question is what do you guys think would be the best course of action?

Do we tell them about the job without payslips and hope that the land she owns is considered a big enough reason to return or would we be better off not mentioning the job at all (and therefore not lying to the embassy, just omitting certain facts)?

Your help and advice would be very much appreciated.

[mark515]

Only tell the truth in the application.

If she is only coming for 2 week holiday I trust you are the sponsor.

Show your bank details I guess if you brought some land you can support a 2 week visit with funds in your account.

Show your home as to were she will be staying.

You then need to prove she will return at the end.

You say she has 2 rejections in the past 12 months but only mention refused on the grounds of income.

Is there any other reasons?

Perhaps you should post a copy of the rejection letters.

There are many people on here with the answers you will need.

[killblues]

Only tell the truth in the application.

If she is only coming for 2 week holiday I trust you are the sponsor.

Show your bank details I guess if you brought some land you can support a 2 week visit with funds in your account.

Show your home as to were she will be staying.

You then need to prove she will return at the end.

You say she has 2 rejections in the past 12 months but only mention refused on the grounds of income.

Is there any other reasons?

Perhaps you should post a copy of the rejection letters.

There are many people on here with the answers you will need.

Mark,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The 1st app had several reasons for rejection, all of which were corrected for the 2nd app. The 2nd app was rejected because of the lack of payslips or evidence of wages being paid to her bank (she is paid in cash so its not on her bank statement) even though she had a signed letter from her boss stating that he uses a signed ledger instead of payslips. Unfortunately, in the same letter, her boss stated the wrong dates for her approved leave ie she was planning to visit u.k. in October but he put September by mistake. These were the only reasons for the rejection.

They seemed to be happy with everything else - eveidence of relationship, funds etc etc so it seems it was just the reason to return they were concerned about.

My view is that we should (obviously) state the land as her main reason to return, tell them that she has a job and then go on to explain why she has no payslips. Do you think this would suffice?

Edited January 25, 2010 by killblues

[chiang mai]

You couldn't make this sort of thing up if you wanted to!

[killblues]

You couldn't make this sort of thing up if you wanted to!

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[chiang mai]

You couldn't make this sort of thing up if you wanted to!

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The local resident expert on such matters is a forum Moderator named, "7 by 7", in the visa section and I have no doubt he will provide good guidance. Good luck.

[louialive]

There is an excellent post on this site on how to prepare information for a visa application. Go through that and follow step by step and see what you may have missed out (not saying you have but just in case as other information may counter act the missing payslips)as my girlfriend came over to the UK for 5 months, just gone back. She has a degree in accountancy, she worked as acccountant for 6 years but finnished this about 8 weeks before she came to the uk and worked as beautician in bangkok for those 8 weeks (which she trained for in her own time). She had no pay slips from hew new job but we had no problem getting visa. The only thing I did was send her £200 via bank to her account. So maybe you showing it as though you are supporting her may help

[ThaiVisaExpress]

If she has an asset such as land you must now include this within the application.

You have failed on two separate occasions do you not feel you need professional help ?

[7by7]

Unfounded accusation and response to it deleted.

[7by7]

Without knowing exactly what the previous refusal notices say, it is difficult to give precise advice.

However, in any new application you must deal with each reason given for the previous refusal, and certainly explain the discrepancy over the dates of her holiday. I would also explain why she has changed employers.

The land may help, but you must explain where the money for it came from, and as you contributed to the cost say why you did so.

You should also go into details about the history of your relationship, what your future plans are together and why she wants to visit the UK at this time.