Teaching In Australia

[Pudgimelon]

Got some friends interested in hanging out in Sydney for a year or two and they were asking me about teaching jobs there (availiblity, qualifications required, salaries, etc...). Guess they figured I know since I'm teaching on this side of the planet and Thailand is practically next door to Australia (hope they aren't planning on teaching geography, heheh).

Anyway, does anyone have information on teaching in Australia? Are there language schools there like they have here? Do they require a degree or certificate or can you "wing it" like many people do here? Can you make a living wage in a place like Sydney (expensive? or no?)? Etc....

Also, if you know of any websites or forums that could be useful, let me know and I'll pass along the info.

Thanks for the help.

[ozzydom]

Got some friends interested in hanging out in Sydney for a year or two and they were asking me about teaching jobs there (availiblity, qualifications required, salaries, etc...).  Guess they figured I know since I'm teaching on this side of the planet and Thailand is practically next door to Australia (hope they aren't planning on teaching geography, heheh).

Anyway, does anyone have information on teaching in Australia?  Are there language schools there like they have here?  Do they require a degree or certificate or can you "wing it" like many people do here?  Can you make a living wage in a place like Sydney (expensive? or no?)?  Etc....

Also, if you know of any websites or forums that could be useful, let me know and I'll pass along the info.

Thanks for the help.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think you will find that your friends would have great difficulty finding anything other than teachers aide in a kindergarden position in OZ. Teaching is for the most part a university qualification and the profession unionised. Working on a tourist visa will probably get you a visit by immigration and a "wing it" home.

Sydney,expensive ? YES.

[udon]

Sydney: Food cheap, accomm very expensive, multiply Thai rentals by 5.

Tell your friends to call the Aus embassy for info on teaching jobs.

I know Aus badly needs skilled tradesmen and fruit pickers.

[peter991]

Pudge: If your friends are looking for work in Australia, they must get a working visa.

The best website to check for jobs in Australia is this one.

Australian Government's Job Search Website

Peter

[kenkannif]

I can assure you all any friend of my main Pudgis will definitely 110% do everything BY the BOOK!

[alex100]

Got some friends interested in hanging out in Sydney for a year or two and they were asking me about teaching jobs there (availiblity, qualifications required, salaries, etc...).  Guess they figured I know since I'm teaching on this side of the planet and Thailand is practically next door to Australia (hope they aren't planning on teaching geography, heheh).

Anyway, does anyone have information on teaching in Australia?  Are there language schools there like they have here?  Do they require a degree or certificate or can you "wing it" like many people do here?  Can you make a living wage in a place like Sydney (expensive? or no?)?  Etc....

Also, if you know of any websites or forums that could be useful, let me know and I'll pass along the info.

Thanks for the help.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You will have no chance if you do not speak English with an Australian accent - the last thing the Aussies want is their kids growing up sounding like a POM or a Yank. I have first hand experince of this on our compound scholl in Saudi the Aussie employees insisted that we import an Aussie speaking teacher for the kids because of the above.

[Nignoy]

Got some friends interested in hanging out in Sydney for a year or two and they were asking me about teaching jobs there (availiblity, qualifications required, salaries, etc...).  Guess they figured I know since I'm teaching on this side of the planet and Thailand is practically next door to Australia (hope they aren't planning on teaching geography, heheh).

Anyway, does anyone have information on teaching in Australia?  Are there language schools there like they have here?  Do they require a degree or certificate or can you "wing it" like many people do here?  Can you make a living wage in a place like Sydney (expensive? or no?)?  Etc....

Also, if you know of any websites or forums that could be useful, let me know and I'll pass along the info.

Thanks for the help.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The main qualification needed for teaching in australia is the abilityto write very slowly , the average australian can not read very fast also lots of hobbies to keep you occupied during the 6 months holiday a year Apologies to Udon Nignoy

You will have no chance if you do not speak English with an Australian accent - the last thing the Aussies want is their kids growing up sounding like a POM or a Yank. I have first hand experince of this on our compound scholl in Saudi the Aussie employees insisted that we import an Aussie speaking teacher for the kids because of the above.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

[Ijustwannateach]

Hey, Pudge, long time no see- missed ya lots. I concur with the skeptical opinions above- have several retired teacher friends from Oz who gossip about how strict and overbearing things have been getting there. Unless they have some sort of qualification in their own countries (or a high-demand skill like the sciences/maths, or a native facility in a third language in demand), I wouldn't try it.

If they *do* try it, let us know how it went.

"Steven"

[bkk_mike]

Sydney: Food cheap, accomm very expensive, multiply Thai rentals by 5.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

His friends are from the UK. - Compared to most of the UK, the cost of living in Sydney is cheap. (except for buying a house there, then Sydney gets very expensive.)

One problem - salaries in Oz are a lot lower than Europe (and taxes are higher, although with lots of allowances - one being for mortgage interest, which is why Australian house prices are as overheated as they are...)

[tomyumcha]

HI There,

Ok, there are many schools in Sydney alone that offer ELICOS courses. I am not sure about salaries (I heard the starting hourly rate is AUD30 but I could be wrong).

Anyway, to be considered for these positions you must have a university degree minimum (any field) and a CELTA or equivalent certification PLUS 800 hours teaching experience unless the CELTA holder got at least a pass B and has glowing references from previous employers. Most teachers working in Australia chalked up their 800 hours by working overseas (such as Thailand!).

As for the unions etc, that is not an issue as we are talking about English language teaching - not primary or secondary education teaching.

As for "winging it" - I'm afraid not. You must have the above qualifications - minimum. As for the accent, I knew many teachers from the UK teaching English here so that's not a problem at all.

If your friends have an education degree, and since we are in desperate need for good teachers at our local schools, I believe there may be good opportunities to be had. Visit www.det.nsw.gov.au.

Btw, I used to work for an ELICOS school (not as a teacher though) and also the DET

Got some friends interested in hanging out in Sydney for a year or two and they were asking me about teaching jobs there (availiblity, qualifications required, salaries, etc...).  Guess they figured I know since I'm teaching on this side of the planet and Thailand is practically next door to Australia (hope they aren't planning on teaching geography, heheh).

Anyway, does anyone have information on teaching in Australia?  Are there language schools there like they have here?  Do they require a degree or certificate or can you "wing it" like many people do here?  Can you make a living wage in a place like Sydney (expensive? or no?)?  Etc....

Also, if you know of any websites or forums that could be useful, let me know and I'll pass along the info.

Thanks for the help.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

[Polly]

one being for mortgage interest

You only get tax relief from mortage interest if you are negative gearing, not for a family home, so it does not really advantage young families (the largest group of mortage holders)