webfact Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 My first encounter with the "Warrior" By Tulsathit Taptim The Nation My first encounter with the "Warrior" BANGKOK: -- Seh Daeng entertains The Nation editor Tulsathit Taptim with thoughts on Napoleon, warriors' underwear and the three types of Thai TV citizens If Maj-General Khattiya Sawasdipol did bomb the Army headquarters as alleged, you would find it hard not to forgive him if you'd met him in person. I stumbled into that unfortunate situation yesterday afternoon when "Seh Daeng" walked into our newsroom after visiting the Nation Channel. We set up a live-tweet mission for me. Our media group's political editors would be interviewing him while I would sit in my room listening on my mobile and "tweet-cast" the conversations. Gosh, he was LOUD, and talked in a rapid-fire manner. To add to that, he was the most incoherent, flip-flopping speaker I'd ever heard. (He made Chavalit Yongchaiyudh look like Barack Obama when it comes to speaking.) We assigned about 10 editors to tear him to pieces but they never stood a chance. Questions never mattered. He would say what he liked. The largely one-sided talk jumped back and forth from modern-day revolutions to ancient warriors to Chavalit being the holiest man in Thailand. There were times when I seriously thought he needed medical help, or he was simply faking it to escape legal trouble. These are samples of the exchanges: - You say over and over again that you never lie, so tell us about the bomb at the Army headquarters. - On that I have to lie a little. - Will there be shooting? (Will there be political bloodshed?) - That depends on me. - Do you have weapons for this war? (referring to his claim that a "People's Army" was being set up.) - Nope. As of now we only have saakkabua (pestles). - What if the court seizes Thaksin's assets? - It's not my problem. My salary is only tens of thousands. - What are you getting for helping him? - There are morons who think I want money. I'm finished if I do that. - Again, did you bomb General Anupong's office? - Are you crazy asking me that? Would I admit it if I did? - How much time do you think Thaksin gives himself for his political comeback? - He gave Big Jiew [Chavalit] one year. Khattiya also said that Thailand had three types of people: "Normal buffalos" - those who watch TV Channels 3, 5, 7, 9 and so on. "Stupid buffalos" - those who watch ASTV "Ordinary citizens" - those who watch the red-shirt TV station. When one editor asked if the red-shirted movement was powerful enough to neutralise the military. He said "Of course", because "most of the red shirts are women". First, he kept calling himself "Phi Daeng" (Brother Daeng), but later he preferred to be |refer to himself as "warrior". Then discussion went from China's revolutions to Napoleon to how real "warriors" dealt |with their unchanged underwear. And at this point, he responded to many questions with a blunt "You don't understand warriors". I joined the real interview towards the end, but by that time he had considerably cooled down. Yet he saved the best for the last. An aide came into the room and handed him a note. "I gotta go now," the "warrior" said. "Have a plane to catch at 5 pm. I'm going to speak in Nong Khai". Then he looked at the watch and exclaimed: "Damned! It's 4.30 now. I've missed the flight already." Honestly, I wished he had made it to Nong Khai. If he was scheduled to speak at a red-shirt rally, they really deserved all the fun. Whether or not his hands were tainted with bomb residues, this is a very special character, believe me. -- The Nation 2010-02-05 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 With no back-story, this article is confusing and poorly written, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry9999 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 "Normal buffalos" - those who watch TV Channels 3, 5, 7, 9 and so on. Well, have to agree with him on that one at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry9999 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 He certainly sounds like a colourful character. This is what Thai politics need, more colourful characters. Samak was the last colourful Thai politician, reminded me of Australia's Paul Keating! Abbisit is sooooooo boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardback Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Is Tulsie trying his hand at Gonzo journalism? This thing reads like the back page of a music magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikoman Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 It is hard to believe that this person is a General in the Thai Armed Services, But Thailand has 1000 Generals in her Services, Compared to the US that has 873 Generals and Admirals in her Services. A little top heavy I would say! Cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuian Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Loose cannon on rolling deck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 If 10 editors couldn't shred the man, it speaks to the fact that he is alot smarter than people give him credit for. Call him a diabolical genius, call him wiley, call him cunning, but it seems to me he had some fun with a bunch of self proclaimed Bangkok "intellectuals" and left them in his dust. Even if this was meant as a backhanded hatchet job, it unfortunately makes him out to be an endearing likeable fellow. Thing is, I don't think I would want to be his friend, let alone his enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 If 10 editors couldn't shred the man, it speaks to the fact that he is alot smarter than people give him credit for.Call him a diabolical genius, call him wiley, call him cunning, but it seems to me he had some fun with a bunch of self proclaimed Bangkok "intellectuals" and left them in his dust. Even if this was meant as a backhanded hatchet job, it unfortunately makes him out to be an endearing likeable fellow. Thing is, I don't think I would want to be his friend, let alone his enemy. Well if you speak just complete nonsense and don't care if your second sentence tells the opposite from the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglist Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Loved it. I even read it twice. Funniest thing as of yet in 2010. Only the Thai Arms would put up with this guy any other nations armed service would have rained down reality on him along time ago. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygourmet Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 That grand impostor, that loathsome hypocrite, that detestable traitor, that opprobrium of mankind, that landscape of iniquity, that sink of sin, that compendium of baseness who now calls himself our protector. The Anabaptists, in an address to King Charles II, on Oliver Cromwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul123456 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Seemed to be quite well written to me. Clearly the man is an idiot or a lunatic or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Another class act for the redshirt/Thaksin brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian007 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 He's obviously mentally unhinged, a perfect match for dear leader. Although his chaotic answers may seem clever or charming, I think they indicate a disconnection with reality. Or maybe he's just a speed freak? They let this man have weapons? Amazing Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) "Normal buffalos" - those who watch TV Channels 3, 5, 7, 9 and so on."Stupid buffalos" - those who watch ASTV "Ordinary citizens" - those who watch the red-shirt TV station. And some of us are called prejudiced on TVF. HA! This guy takes the cake. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is a substandard human being, or not even a human being. This speaks volumes to his mental state, and the methodologies of the Red Side mind control propaganda. Make you opponent a lesser beingvs all who agree with your views. There is no gray area, nor middle ground in his mindset, it's us or them, all or nothing. My friend blindly or my enemy totally. Generals are supposed to see the big picture and think in the strategic, tactical AND political spheres. This guy is a grunt who keeps getting promoted, but without the properly schooled merits, most promotions in most armies require. Colorful leaders are not always the best... steady and well considered leaders while boring, many actually leave better results for the future and posterity. Yes manage the present but manage it with an eye for the effects on a probable future. If this is an example of Thaksin's leadership choices, and he regains power we are all F....d... Edited February 5, 2010 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 He certainly sounds like a colourful character. This is what Thai politics need, more colourful characters. Samak was the last colourful Thai politician, reminded me of Australia's Paul Keating!Abbisit is sooooooo boring. Boring he may be, but he is trying to run a country that has been affected by the world recession and is being held hostage for the present time by a lunatic in Dubai (Saruman?) and his minions. Thai politics has colorful characters, guys like Chalerm & Kasit and chaotic as it may be at times, it's not Fawlty Towers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Probably not a great idea to call virtually everyone in the country a buffalo Another bit of bad PR by the red side to go with the people's army which today sees massive backtracking. Personally, I dont understand why the red side which a year ago was quite effective at PR and certainly outdid the government have suddenly become totally amateurish at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) Probably not a great idea to call virtually everyone in the country a buffaloAnother bit of bad PR by the red side to go with the people's army which today sees massive backtracking. Personally, I dont understand why the red side which a year ago was quite effective at PR and certainly outdid the government have suddenly become totally amateurish at it. I suspect Thaksins PR budget for true professionals is depleted at present. If he is running the show himself in his obviously stressed out state, that would likely explain the scatter-shot approach to things. As well as a lack of cogent analysis of the situation from several view points. USUALLY being reactive, rather than proactive, is in relation to the actions of others, not their reaction to your own inabilities to be correctly proactive. Back tracking from their own misjudgments... classic. Reactionary to their own mis-steps.... who are his advisers? Sae Daeng and Pallop? Nopadon? Does he even allow advisers? He didn't like that when he ran his cabinet on his own. Edited February 5, 2010 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 If 10 editors couldn't shred the man, it speaks to the fact that he is alot smarter than people give him credit for.Call him a diabolical genius, call him wiley, call him cunning, but it seems to me he had some fun with a bunch of self proclaimed Bangkok "intellectuals" and left them in his dust. Even if this was meant as a backhanded hatchet job, it unfortunately makes him out to be an endearing likeable fellow. Thing is, I don't think I would want to be his friend, let alone his enemy. I think the word that was translated to editor would be better used to describe cadet journalists in any other organisation. Maybe this is an accurate description of what was said, and the man was/is less than mentally competent by modern western standards, thus perfect for the ruling class in a tin-pot depotocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Gunnery Sgt.Hartman meet Major General Sawasdipol Khattiya of The Royal Thai Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 We know how Gunny Hartman ended up too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 We know how Gunny Hartman ended up too! Good point animatic, but what would "Gunny" think of Seh Daeng's comportment as a Major General? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parryhandy Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfbkk Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 He certainly sounds like a colourful character. This is what Thai politics need, more colourful characters. Samak was the last colourful Thai politician, reminded me of Australia's Paul Keating!Abbisit is sooooooo boring. This country doesnt need colourful characters, as it already had enough of it. Sure, Samak was very colourful and so is our Massage Tycon Khun Chuwit, but in the long run they rather harm the country. Colourful also means Red, Yellow and Blue. This country requires immediate peace and consistency on a domestic level. I rather leave foreign politics alone for the time being. If the Thai's do not get their act together in the next few months, they will run in to another desaster, which may or may not end up peacefully like the Songkran 2009 stand ups. Thailand does not need Lunatics or some wanna be generals whatsoever folks at the moment. The Kingdom is in critical situation and on the edge to maneuver in to pretty wild water. Situations like this just make things even worse. There are a lot of opinions out there, that if the country does not get their political act together it will sooner or later turn in to a Banana Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccw Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Seemed to be quite well written to me. Clearly the man is an idiot or a lunatic or both Both; much like the rest of them: "We want democracy" while at same time threating to kill the pm or anyone who campains for another party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Frightening to think of the killing weapons potentially at his disposal. I can totally see him committing genocide and loving it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomahawk Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 This is not a well written article. If it is an interview, just report what the interviewee says, not your opinion or paraphrased comments about it. Is the general deranged, or the journalist, or both? Hard to tell from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry9999 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 He certainly sounds like a colourful character. This is what Thai politics need, more colourful characters. Samak was the last colourful Thai politician, reminded me of Australia's Paul Keating!Abbisit is sooooooo boring. Boring he may be, but he is trying to run a country that has been affected by the world recession and is being held hostage for the present time by a lunatic in Dubai (Saruman?) and his minions. Thai politics has colorful characters, guys like Chalerm & Kasit and chaotic as it may be at times, it's not Fawlty Towers More like the The Keystone Kops then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry9999 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Seriously, why are so many TV expats getting so emotional, defensive & offensive about Thai Politics here. 1. Due to LM laws, the topic can't be debated in full. 2. The information being debated is coming from a censored news outlet. 3. No Thai politician gives a rats arse about what a bunch of Farangs on an expat forum think. Chill out Guys, what ever is going to happen, there's nothing you can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglist Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 This comparison is dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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