Just read this article over at Jezebel about Brad and Angelina's first daughter Shiloh who, apparently, at 3 years old likes to wear, gasp! jeans. and has short hair and has the tabloids wondering if she's bisexual. She's three years old.

I mean, wow. Is this the idea that every little girl has to wear tutus and princess dresses in order to conform to some sort of norm of what girls are "supposed" to look like?

I had a pixie haircut at 6, looked cute as a button with it too and nobody ever asked my mother if I had bisexual tendencies.

What is wrong with our society that we are now sexualizing three year olds??

I thought it was bad with the pagaents for little girls who dress up like adults and wear tons of makeup (think Jon Benet Ramsey if you are unaware of what I mean), now, apparently it swings both ways. Turn your kid into a doll or turn your kid into a lesbian. jaysus.

What is wrong with our society that we are now sexualizing three year olds??

Thank God there's still civilised places like Thailand on this planet.

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Yesterday I bought a Ventolin inhaler for my hotel cleaner's daughter who I have never met apart from a wave from the balcony on occasions. I'm also asthmatic since I was a child. Now, if I was to do that in Australia, there's no doubt that the money-hungry journos of the misnamed West Australian would be reporting me as a paedophile, rather than the boring old news of someone buying someone else a bloody Ventolin for her daughter.

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I beg to differ, my thai family has a young one, hes about 4 and a half now. I have predicted & others in the family have agreed with me, for the past 12 months or so, that he will be a ladyboy.....just watching the child.......ohh and everyone has been careful not to say anything in his presence.

I beg to differ, my thai family has a young one, hes about 4 and a half now. I have predicted & others in the family have agreed with me, for the past 12 months or so, that he will be a ladyboy.....just watching the child.......ohh and everyone has been careful not to say anything in his presence.

I'd still buy him a Ventolin even if he is a four year old apprentice ladyboy.

I beg to differ, my thai family has a young one, hes about 4 and a half now. I have predicted & others in the family have agreed with me, for the past 12 months or so, that he will be a ladyboy.....just watching the child.......ohh and everyone has been careful not to say anything in his presence.

I'd still buy him a Ventolin even if he is a four year old apprentice ladyboy.

It's Getting late Sean

Yes, good point. I think its time Sean did himself and the rest of us a favor and logged off.

wow.. Unbelievable!

When i was a young girl (up until the age of about 12) I was a tomboy (which in the UK means a girl who plays boys games..nothing to do with sexuality!). I loved to climb trees and play on a skateboard and stuff. Not once did i think about my sexuality lol.. i was just having fun being a kid!

edit: oh yeh..i liked to wear boyish clothes. Jeans and t-shirt. Easy for climbing trees and rolling down hills. I hated girly girls stuff. The only thing i kept for my closet "little princess" need, was my long hair. I wanted to be my own little Lara Croft even before she was invented!

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I agree with sbk and eek. The press should keep their noses out of it. I bought my daughter a toy dump truck when she was 3. The press just wants to sensationalize everything. And, even the teenagers of North America cross-dress with jeans and sloppy clothes. Even if the child eventually DID turn gay, so what!

This sort of thing is what happens when we allow the masses to read. As society dumbs down the market for tabloid garbage aimed at the lowest common denominator becomes increasingly larger.

Let's face it, Hollywood is obsessed with two things:

1. Sex.

2. Killing people.

It's what seems to make up 90% of the artistic output of the American Entertainment industry, so this is really no surprise.

I think this is a global problem personally.

My toddler likes to play with cars, planes, tools, typical boy toys, anything fiddly & technical, he also loves to hit & smash things, jump & wrestle over everyone, thrown stuff, a real regular boy but....he also likes to wear lady shoes (sbk can attest to that ) the higher the heel the better, he likes to push around a toy buggy (stroller) & is fascinated when mummy puts on her make up & asks to have some to (which I oblige with a bit of gloss or powder)

I hardly consider this makes his either gay or katoey (if he is then so be it, as long as HE is being himself imo) but here in Thailand when seen clomping around in a pair of women shoes he picked up off the shelf in Tesco, we often get the Katoey comment from thai people, it isn't ever malicious or mocking though, just a sort of statement but none the less, a very narrow judgment of a little person who has on been on earth for 2 years & 8 months. hel_l some of us are still figuring out who we are well into our 30-40's & beyond so why the quick judgment of ones so young.

In UK we more often just get amusement when he finds a pair of shoes that take his fancy & no one bats an eye at a boy pushing a buggy but I once got into an argument with a women who would rather her son got cold legs in winter than put on a pair of girls woolen tights under his trousers cause her husband "would have gone mad" (presumably wearing tights when 18 months old would automatically turn the boy "queer"?

Crazy what some people get in their heads!!

Baby boo is quite funny, he is a typical destructive little boy, throwing his toys off the balcony, beheading toys and yet he does like womens shoes. Have to say tho, that while he does push the buggy around there isn't anything in the buggy. He's a cutie but I find it amazing that people pigeonhole sexuality at such an early age. Ridiculous kind of thinking IMO

lol yes about the buggy, first one I bought him I also got him a boy baby to go with it. Boy baby had a dummy which he promptly ripped off the string & stuck in his own mouth, threw boy baby on the floor never to be touched again & filled the buggy with cars & a pair of shoes & toddled off with it. He now prefers to just run at full speed with the empty buggy making those silly noises only boys seem to make when they play?

..he also likes to wear lady shoes (sbk can attest to that ) the higher the heel the better, he likes to push around a toy buggy (stroller) & is fascinated when mummy puts on her make up & asks to have some to (which I oblige with a bit of gloss or powder)

That is just full on copy mode, sees the mum doing it and wants to do it himself, incredibly funny to watch, I bet you are watching your language around him as well?

Even if the child eventually DID turn gay, so what!

'Turn gay'?

Even if the child eventually DID turn gay, so what!

'Turn gay'?

Picky, picky. Turn or born that way, it doesn't really matter. I know several women who became lesbian because of unfortunate incidents with men... and not because they were born with sexual preferences towards their own gender.

Ahh moss, the bad language thing... mostly we are keeping a check on our swearing although the occasional slips in which he of course latches onto instantly , the worst is when I am driving, I tend to get verbal & he is a parrot... so bad mummy. Fortunately as you've probably found with baby moss, they have short attention spans so a quick change of subject usually allows us to move past it.

Ahh moss, the bad language thing... mostly we are keeping a check on our swearing although the occasional slips in which he of course latches onto instantly , the worst is when I am driving, I tend to get verbal & he is a parrot... so bad mummy. Fortunately as you've probably found with baby moss, they have short attention spans so a quick change of subject usually allows us to move past it.

I've got so many memories about THAT situation. Thanks for the reminder and the laugh.

Ahh moss, the bad language thing... mostly we are keeping a check on our swearing although the occasional slips in which he of course latches onto instantly , the worst is when I am driving, I tend to get verbal & he is a parrot... so bad mummy. Fortunately as you've probably found with baby moss, they have short attention spans so a quick change of subject usually allows us to move past it.

I was getting my then nine month old daughter ready to go out as I had a seminar to conduct. I was running late and dropped my phone as I put her in the stroller and I let slip "Oh f***" which she promptly picked up and began repeating proudly. I spent the drive to the office teaching her "quack" in hopes people would think she was talking about a duck. I had almost a hundred volunteers to train that night and to accomplish that it was important that I gained their respect. That was not going to happen with my nine month old baby cursing up a storm in the background.

Fortunately she forgot it by the time I had to start.

Ahh moss, the bad language thing...

Yes Boo, he is at the age where he copies everything with hilarious results, except a few!

I don't normally swear, but on the occasion that I do, it was right in front of Jude, I spent the next five minutes teaching new words, new actions, anything, if he repeated in front of the wife, I would have been sleeping on the street

Maybe we need a tips for parents of toddlers thread in family such as;

when letting go of the f word & your toddler starts repeating it replace with duck (and make quacking noise) , shit = snip (make scissor finger action whilst repeating the word snip 20 times ) fcks sake - foot shake (same as last, shake foot, laugh a lot)

Maybe we need a tips for parents of toddlers thread in family such as;

when letting go of the f word & your toddler starts repeating it replace with duck (and make quacking noise) , shit = snip (make scissor finger action whilst repeating the word snip 20 times ) fcks sake - foot shake (same as last, shake foot, laugh a lot)

"particularly nasty weather"

Something people always seemed to get confused are sexuality and personality. Yes you can concede that the majority of very effeminate men are gay. However there are most definitely effeminate straight men. Then there are gay men who are very straight acting. One of my best friends came out to me when we were at university. I was thunderstruck. Looking back, certain things made more sense after he came out, but I honestly had no idea. I was talking to another one of my (gay male) friends and asked him when he came out. He said that it had never even been questioned. His family had known he was gay from the word dot. He had been wearing tutus and make up from the age of 3. The same I am sure can be said for gay women. I know of more masculine/boyish gay women and some very girly gay women. Neither are the right or the wrong version.

When I was growing up I was desperate to be a girly girl, but my mum much preferred to put me in sensible courdroys rather than the nylon frilly dresses of my choice. The problem was I wanted to look like a girly girl, but I also wanted to climb trees and make dens...and my mum was doing the washing. Now that I am older, I am thinking that I will probably end up doing the same with my children (after a childhood spent vowing that my children would wear as many frilly socks, patent leather shoes and princess dresses that they wanted).

Meet the fockers is a great movie. When th toddler has his say..

My sister used to play with my Action Man, she had him as her Barbie doll's boyfriend. She invented Ken and never realised it.