Top 10 Reasons Why Wife/gf

[westybrook]

I thought I would see how much people know and to try and get an idea as to why the visa officer would say no to a visa.

I know curcumsances are different for other people, but in a general sense what would be the top 10.

Also after the interview, does the officer say yes or no there in the interiew.

And one more before I go Does it help if when the interview is set, that you attend the interview with your wife/gf or do you just have to pray that she is ok on her own.

Thanks!

[the scouser]

Westybrook,

There is no obligation for you to attend the interview with your wife, although she might be grateful for the moral support. The visa officer will give you the result on the day of the interview.

Scouse.

[jayenram]

I thought I would see how much people know and to try and get an idea as to why the visa officer would say no to a visa.

I know curcumsances are different for other people, but in a general sense what would be the top 10.

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I have applied 3 times for Thais to obtain visit visa for UK (2 times for wife, once for FG). We have not been refused.

However, in my opinion, the top five reasons for rejection could be (no particular order):

Insufficient funds for the trip (applicant and/or sponsor).

Insufficient proof that the applicant has every intention of returning to Thailand after the visit.

The length of the relationship between applicant and sponsor is too short (6 months minimum).

The applicant is dressed like a BG at the interview.

The answers offered at the interview do not match the answers on the application.

[jayenram]

Oh, and one more:

The ECO is having a bad day (hangover/wrong time of the month).

[Dragonman]

My wife was turned down first time because she said my name was Steve not Stephen. ECO said you obviously don't know him well enough. Go over everything including what sort of underwear you wear.

[jayenram]

My wife was turned down first time because she said my name was Steve not Stephen. ECO said you obviously don't know him well enough. Go over everything including what sort of underwear you wear.

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If that was the only reason the application was rejected I would think the ECO was having a bad day!

[jayenram]

I have to apologise. I didn't read the subject title correctly (it was early). I now see you are talking of "settlement visa".

The reasons I listed were those which may prevent the issue of a "visit visa". Although I guess you get the drift.

[westybrook]

Yeah I get the drift, but those are good ideas even for my wife, as she likes to call me Bob even tho im 24 and my name is Robert when I said Bob is a name I can be called when I get older, thats what she calls me now.

So I will have to get her to change this habbit she has

I will get her to dress well also, which she does anyway, luckily for me she has never been into dressing too skimpy.

[the scouser]

Oh, and one more:

The ECO is having a bad day (hangover/wrong time of the month).

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Likewise, the last interview slot on a Friday is a good one as the ECO is anxious to make an early dart, and to issue a visa is less paperwork than to refuse it.

Scouse.

[afalang]

Likewise, the last interview slot on a Friday is a good one as the ECO is anxious to make an early dart, and to issue a visa is less paperwork than to refuse it.

Scouse.

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sounds like a scouse... Scouse

[the scouser]

Takes one to know one

By the way, the draw for the Champions League qualifiers has been made. Apparently, Everton are drawn against some team called Rapid Exit.

Scouse.

[afalang]

"By the way, the draw for the Champions League qualifiers has been made. Apparently, Everton are drawn against some team called Rapid Exit."

Scouse.

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nice one r-kid...you're half way to being a wit

[the scouser]

nice one r-kid...you're half way to being a wit 

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I was going to the say the same of you........... except, to the word "wit", add a "t" and change the "i" to "a".

Scouse.

[GuestHouse]

The single most common reason for not receiving a visa is incomplte documentation.

This is followed by incorrect or unsubstantiated information on the application/during the interview.

These two items provide evidence of inelligability under the rules.

Generally they relate to, Income, Marrital Status, Nature of Relationship and Reason for wanting a visa.

The clearing officer need only suspect that there is a problem and he/she can refuse a visa.

Now take a look at the numbers of people applying for visa, day in day out, year in year out and ask yourself - 'What kind of stuff does the guy behind the glass hear, day in day out, year in year out'.

If there is an inconsistancy these guys can smell it through the glass.

Not sure what 'Dressing like a bar girl means' surely however a bar girl dresses is - dressing like a bar girl.

[GuestHouse]

Sorry forgot to mention.

The rules and criteria are published on the internet or available from the embassies.

Those of the British and US Goverments are clear and concise.

There is no question anywhere that asks 'Have you worked as a bargirl/prostitute and there is no bias against people because of their past.

The general rule is - Is the relationship Genuine and is the Visa Application being made for the stated reason.

There are of course rules about income and accommodation, but they are perhaps the easiest to meet and demonstrate that you have met the rule.

[afalang]

I was going to the say the same of you........... except, to the word "wit", add a "t" and change the "i" to "a".

Scouse.

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watt ???

eh you don't have to spell it out for me, I can read all dem big words.

I went to one of dem special schools in Liverpool.....

you had to be recommended by a magistrate to get in

[jayenram]

Not sure what 'Dressing like a bar girl means' surely however a bar girl dresses is - dressing like a bar girl.

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Oh, come on! If the girl is dressed in halter neck top, no bra and 4" long shorts, do you think she will give a good first impression? Try going for a job interview in jeans and tee shirt or arriving in court looking like a spiv. Whether it's right or wrong, human nature will still prevail.

[bkk_mike]

The rules and criteria are published on the internet or available from the embassies.

Those of the British and US Goverments are clear and concise.

There is no question anywhere that asks 'Have you worked as a bargirl/prostitute and there is no bias against people because of their past.

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As far as the UK is concerned, I'll agree with you.

But the US Visa application (tourist one anyway) definitely asks if you've worked as a prostitute at any time in the last 10 years.

[jayenram]

But the US Visa application (tourist one anyway) definitely asks if you've worked as a prostitute at any time in the last 10 years.

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I'm not saying you are wrong, but I find that unbelievable. How does the embassy define "prostitute"?

[daveh]

But the US Visa application (tourist one anyway) definitely asks if you've worked as a prostitute at any time in the last 10 years.

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I'm not saying you are wrong, but I find that unbelievable. How does the embassy define "prostitute"?

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Here is the link to the relevant law from the USCIS site itself: Immigration Laws

In there it states:

(D) Prostitution and commercialized vice.-Any alien who-

(i) is coming to the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in prostitution, or has engaged in prostitution within 10 years of the date of application for a visa, admission, or adjustment of status, ...

But they don't define prostitution. But whatever definition they use, a BG qualifies for sure.

[Totster]

But the US Visa application (tourist one anyway) definitely asks if you've worked as a prostitute at any time in the last 10 years.

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I'm not saying you are wrong, but I find that unbelievable. How does the embassy define "prostitute"?

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More to the point.. If answered no, how do they prove otherwise, bit of a useless question really IMHO..

totster

[markuk]

My wife was turned down first time because she said my name was Steve not Stephen. ECO said you obviously don't know him well enough. Go over everything including what sort of underwear you wear.

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I had a similar experience, my wife was turned down for telling them my parents names were Mam & Dad!!! quite a genuine mistake as i had never told her their names!!

[millwall_fan]

The British settlement visa also asks if the applicant has engaged in acts of genocide or terrorism- presumably any budding Bin Ladens just put 'no'! Similarly if your g/f has been a tart, you just put 'no'- how could they prove it?

We've got our interview for 'further leave to remain', on 17th June. (we got married in England last week) Will I be able to accompany my wife to the interview or will I have to wait outside, as I did for the fiancee visa interview in Bangkok in February?

Does anyone have any more tips as to how we/she conduct this interview?

Thanks for any advice. GARY

[GU22]

My wife was turned down first time because she said my name was Steve not Stephen. ECO said you obviously don't know him well enough. Go over everything including what sort of underwear you wear.

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I had a similar experience, my wife was turned down for telling them my parents names were Mam & Dad!!! quite a genuine mistake as i had never told her their names!!

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In her interview my wife constantly referred to me by the short version of my name, and when asked what she called my parents she replied " Mum and Dad." She was succesful.

I know nothing of these two cases, of course, but my experience has been that when applications are refused the applicant, or more usually sponsor, picks upon some ridiculous, minor point, rather than dealing with the real reason given by the ECO.

If you've only known your girlfreind for a few weeks and she knows next to nothing about you then expect to be refused.

Loooking at Entry Clearance - Facts and Figures (12/04/05) you can see that for the year 2003/4 the British embassy in Bangkok recieved 3086 settlement applications of which 2780 were accepted, approx 90%, which I think is encouraging.

[GU22]

The British settlement visa also asks if the applicant has engaged in acts of genocide or terrorism- presumably any budding Bin Ladens just put 'no'! Similarly if your g/f has been a tart, you just put 'no'- how could they prove it?

  We've got our interview for 'further leave to remain', on 17th June. (we got married in England last week) Will I be able to accompany my wife to the interview or will I have to wait outside, as I did for the fiancee visa interview in Bangkok in February?

  Does anyone have any more tips as to how we/she conduct this interview?

  Thanks for any advice. GARY

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Congrats on the wedding, Gary.

Not sure what you mean by "We've got our interview for 'further leave to remain', on 17th June." as applications are dealt with by post. Unless you are paying the premium to apply in person and get a same day decision? If so, no "interview" as such. They will take your application and supporting documents away and then come back after a short wait with the decision, which I trust will be positive.

[westybrook]

Loooking at Entry Clearance - Facts and Figures (12/04/05) you can see that for the year 2003/4 the British embassy in Bangkok recieved 3086 settlement applications of which 2780 were accepted, approx 90%, which I think is encouraging

Cheers GU22. I was going to ask what was the percentage of people getting in was, but 90% is a big success rate!

[snoophound]

I find it remarkable that the embassy is so fussy,after all anyone seems to be able toor have already got into the UK.

Maybe they feel they have a social responsibility to protect lovelorn bachelors and make them think with grey matter,instead of the tumescent matter.

Certainly seems similar with aus although Aus is slightly tougher with anyone else too.

Loooking at Entry Clearance - Facts and Figures (12/04/05) you can see that for the year 2003/4 the British embassy in Bangkok recieved 3086 settlement applications of which 2780 were accepted, approx 90%, which I think is encouraging

Cheers GU22. I was going to ask what was the percentage of people getting in was, but 90% is a big success rate!

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[westybrook]

I sometimes feel, especially in the UK, that people that come over illegaly, or claim assylum get better treatment than our wives and girlfriends comming over legally.

The difference with us is that we have to 100% support them, where anyone comming over and claiming assylum from (Europe, Asia, Africa) get so much more help in benifits and aid, and everyone knows there is a massive amount who come over for that, the better way of life and free cash.

I feel this needs more attention and more scrutiney than visa applications, cause if they visa apps especially settlement are accepted it seems clear they can not claim anything when they are here!

P.S I dont have a problem with the assylum programe, I feel any country that looks after genuine cases in which peoples lives are in danger should be commended, but not when the system and applicants are taking advantage!

[millwall_fan]

GU22: thanks for the good wishes.

Yep, we're paying the premium: £500 to have a same day interview because were going back to Thailand for the Summer on 22 July and as postal applications are dealt with in, quote 'between 4 and 14 weeks' We didnt want to risk not being in UK. Thus we have an interview. Does anyone have experience of these interviews? Can I accompany my wife during the actual interview or does she have to go in alone? How exacting is the interview process or did we do all the donkey work at the embassy in Bangkok?

[GU22]

Ok, Gary, understand. It's just outrageous that you have to pay £500 for this!

As I said previously

no "interview" as such. They will take your application and supporting documents away and then come back after a short wait with the decision, which I trust will be positive.

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I've no experience of this myself as my wife applied by post. But, talking to people who have applied in person, the average waiting time between handing in the application and getting the decision is just 30 minutes. £500 for 30 minutes work!!