Thai Authorities Shut Down Red-Shirts Protesters Tv Station

[way2muchcoffee]

The reds upset about the interference with their propaganda tv. OK, understandable. But today they kick out legitimate objective reporters from their stage. They don't like objective journalists? Just like their puppet master Thaksin who hated a free press, and was setting up a total dictatorship. Double standard? Of course, the reds love free speech but only their false Truth Today speech, other speech, shut up!

The point is they shut down the one place they could let off steam - and what happened? It was a serious error of yellow judgment - one of many with terrible consequences – now no matter what this undemocratic government offer in the way of an early election may not be enough – the reds don’t trust a word they say (and who can blame them?).

Censorship – in any wicked guise is still censorship!

Is that why the Red Shirts had all media removed from their protest sites yesterday? Censorship and double standards? Anyway, the situation needs to be resolved peacefully and quickly or we may well see more deaths.

[ChiangMaiFun]

The reds upset about the interference with their propaganda tv. OK, understandable. But today they kick out legitimate objective reporters from their stage. They don't like objective journalists? Just like their puppet master Thaksin who hated a free press, and was setting up a total dictatorship. Double standard? Of course, the reds love free speech but only their false Truth Today speech, other speech, shut up!

The point is they shut down the one place they could let off steam - and what happened? It was a serious error of yellow judgment - one of many with terrible consequences – now no matter what this undemocratic government offer in the way of an early election may not be enough – the reds don't trust a word they say (and who can blame them?).

Censorship – in any wicked guise is still censorship!

Is that why the Red Shirts had all media removed from their protest sites yesterday? Censorship and double standards? Anyway, the situation needs to be resolved peacefully and quickly or we may well see more deaths.

Maybe they didn't think they were real journalists? Not sure but your last sentence is right - we need compromise (elections) quick - people do not want this government that, though legal, was not elected.

[jdinasia]

Maybe they didn't think they were real journalists? Not sure but your last sentence is right - we need compromise (elections) quick - people do not want this government that, though legal, was not elected.

Again with the lies? -- the current government is both legal AND elected --- exactly the same way as Samak and Somchai and you have admitted this in the past.

elections fast isn't a compromise it is just the red demand. The compromise was offered by Abhisit during the meetings with the red leaders. Calling elections a full year early. That is a compromise!

[sbk]

Final point here, please. Might I suggest that instead of the endless ad nauseum arguments regarding the Parliamentary system and what makes a legal government, LOOK IT UP. Because, 1. This has been discussed ad nauseum and really, at this point, if you still need to bring this point up then you need to get a broader understanding of governmental systems and 2. I think people are tired of the same old arguments brought out over and over and over. I, for one, most certainly am.

Do try to stay remotely on topic, then. Which, if I look at the topic title, is actually about the tv station being shut down. Cheers.

[ChiangMaiFun]

Maybe they didn't think they were real journalists? Not sure but your last sentence is right - we need compromise (elections) quick - people do not want this government that, though legal, was not elected.

Again with the lies? -- the current government is both legal AND elected --- exactly the same way as Samak and Somchai and you have admitted this in the past.

elections fast isn't a compromise it is just the red demand. The compromise was offered by Abhisit during the meetings with the red leaders. Calling elections a full year early. That is a compromise!

you would be better served by not calling fellow posters liers - the government is there only after:

• they supported the airport takeover by their pals the PAD
  
• by having the red government parties banned (where else do you know of parties being banned because individuals are corrupt?)
  
• losing the 2007 election
  
• Opposition MPs crossing the House (on principal no doubt!)
  

Anyway – irrelevant – reds will win this and elections will be held this year – something you said should never happen – well you lost so get used to it

[jdinasia]

Maybe they didn't think they were real journalists? Not sure but your last sentence is right - we need compromise (elections) quick - people do not want this government that, though legal, was not elected.

Again with the lies? -- the current government is both legal AND elected --- exactly the same way as Samak and Somchai and you have admitted this in the past.

elections fast isn't a compromise it is just the red demand. The compromise was offered by Abhisit during the meetings with the red leaders. Calling elections a full year early. That is a compromise!

you would be better served by not calling fellow posters liers - the government is there only after:

• they supported the airport takeover by their pals the PAD
  
• by having the red government parties banned (where else do you know of parties being banned because individuals are corrupt?)
  
• losing the 2007 election
  
• Opposition MPs crossing the House (on principal no doubt!)
  

Anyway – irrelevant – reds will win this and elections will be held this year – something you said should never happen – well you lost so get used to it

Hmmm the government at the time of the airport rally was that of Somchai. The Dems as a party did not support the PAD at the airport (some Dems did)

The government didn't disband PPP the courts did due to a PPP exec being caught on film making payoffs

there was no single winner of the 2007 elections. PPP formed 2 coalition governments and then the Dems formed one

yes after the SECOND thaksin backed government was disbanded for electoral fraud they lost their allies

If you are upset about Kasit at the PAD rally, how do you feel about the threats of Jatuporn at the red rallies?

BTW --- I don't win or lose in this. Who loses are the people of Thailand when a violent mob takes to the streets to change governments by threats and violence. The leadership should be charged with sedition, inciting violence, inciting insurrection and terroristic threats. The courts should decide their fate. (BTW -- I think a treason charge would be applicable to Jatuporn.)

SBK -- I agree with you -- sorry about the above. Even CMF has admitted that the government currently in office is legit (and that means elected)

People TV was acting as a player in this mess and not as a reporter of this mess. That violates their public trust. They were shut down legally AND it was a proper move by the government.

Edited April 12, 2010 by jdinasia

[TAWP]

ChiangMaiFun>> Get this fact into the head: It does not matter what you think of the law, it is what it is. And therefor the actions that occurred after the last election both legal and correct and the coalition now is elected, to the same degree as Samak and Somchai's.

[ChiangMaiFun]

Maybe they didn't think they were real journalists? Not sure but your last sentence is right - we need compromise (elections) quick - people do not want this government that, though legal, was not elected.

Again with the lies? -- the current government is both legal AND elected --- exactly the same way as Samak and Somchai and you have admitted this in the past.

elections fast isn't a compromise it is just the red demand. The compromise was offered by Abhisit during the meetings with the red leaders. Calling elections a full year early. That is a compromise!

you would be better served by not calling fellow posters liers - the government is there only after:

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• they supported the airport takeover by their pals the PAD
  
• by having the red government parties banned (where else do you know of parties being banned because individuals are corrupt?)
  
• losing the 2007 election
  
• Opposition MPs crossing the House (on principal no doubt!)
  

Anyway – irrelevant – reds will win this and elections will be held this year – something you said should never happen – well you lost so get used to it

Hmmm the government at the time of the airport rally was that of Somchai. The Dems as a party did not support the PAD at the airport (some Dems did)

The government didn't disband PPP the courts did due to a PPP exec being caught on film making payoffs

there was no single winner of the 2007 elections. PPP formed 2 coalition governments and then the Dems formed one

yes after the SECOND thaksin backed government was disbanded for electoral fraud they lost their allies

If you are upset about Kasit at the PAD rally, how do you feel about the threats of Jatuporn at the red rallies?

BTW --- I don't win or lose in this. Who loses are the people of Thailand when a violent mob takes to the streets to change governments by threats and violence. The leadership should be charged with sedition, inciting violence, inciting insurrection and terroristic threats. The courts should decide their fate. (BTW -- I think a treason charge would be applicable to Jatuporn.)

SBK -- I agree with you -- sorry about the above. Even CMF has admitted that the government currently in office is legit (and that means elected)

People TV was acting as a player in this mess and not as a reporter of this mess. That violates their public trust. They were shut down legally AND it was a proper move by the government.

bending the truth again...? anyway BACK ON TOPIC

shutting down the TV station - one of the only places thery could let off steam - was a huge error of judgement - and the result we can all, sadly, see... and it isn't over yet - censorship, in any guise, is a resolve of poor governments not mature and supported governments who have nothing to hide.

[jdinasia]

You don't "let off steam" watching TV --- and when the TV is broadcasting doctored tapes and particcipating in adding to the violence then what you are doing is BUILDING steam. A TV station is a public trust and they were violating that trust. I assume that sedition charges could be charged against the operators of the TV station as well.

[Rinrada]

uddthailand.com just come back on

Can confirm bright and clear and presume all freedom loving Expat Thais tuned in around the World.....well at least wiffee and her mates are back on again.

Being JAMMED

UDD is still on the internet but looks like someone is JAMMING...sods

Couple of calls from Thai friends here in te smoke to check connections and confirm voice sound levels.....

So much the belief in the Freedom of Speech...figures....

Normal Speech/sound back again...

[britmaveric]

^Good News Rinrada!!!