Thaksin Calls For Political Dialogue, Denies Involvement In Mayhem

[Skywalker69]

Perhaps this blog will get deleted by admin but this is the network of corruption attached to Thaksin. I hope it is read by all to understand the far reaching affects and how certain businesses remained untouched in Thailand when the mayhem died down. This will provide that answer. Similarly, I will never again buy fuel from PTT, have any financial dealing or support through my patronage, of any of these businesses. I have changed my phone provider today and will hope that all who read this, in our small way, will make a conscious decision to ban any future dealings with these people - for the sake of my family and our future here in Thailand. References provided below.

Here goes...

SHINAWATRA'S BUSINESS NETWORK

AIS Advanced Info Service (AIS) and affliated businesses such as

Advance Mobile Broadband Co., Ltd.

Mobile Life

Mobile from Advance

Datanet

GSM Advance

GSM 1800

One-2-Call

BB (Blackberry) mobile phone

Vertu

Faxlite Co., Ltd.

iZone Co., Ltd.

Telewiz

Alpine Golf Course and Housing Estate Thaksin bought the 500 rai Bt747million property at very low price amid allegations that the site was bequeathed to the Thammikaram Temple in Prachuap Khiri Khan by a devout Buddhist.

CS Loxinfo Internet service provider.

Praram 9 Hospital Partially owned by the Shinawatra family.

PTT Pcl Thaksin's nestegg. Supplies PTT, Caltex, Bangchak and Shell. When state-owned PTT went public in November 2001, the Thaksin administration sold a 30 percent stake, which was quickly taken up by Shinawatra nominees cronies and their associates, primarily the Jungrungreangkit and Mahagitsiri clans.

PTT's Petrochemicals and Refining wing consolidates the company's shareholdings in such companies as Thai Oil, Rayong, Star Oil, and Bangchak. Shell has since sold all of its shares to PTT Exploration and Production Public Co., Ltd.

Siam Gas and Picnic PTT maintains its monopoly of the Thai natural gas and liquified petroleum gas markets through Siam Gas and Picnic with a network of 1,015 LPG retail outlets supported by 113 LPG bottling plants.

SC Asset Corp Pcl Chaired by Yingluck Shinawatra. Projects include:

Grand Bangkok Boulevard, Ramindra-Navamin (Under a Thaksin Cabinet resolution in 2003, a new road was cut from Ratchadapisek to Ramintra Km 4.5, to increase the plot's value).

Life Bangkok Boulevard Ratchavipha

Life Bangkok Boulevard Petchkasem 81

Bangkok Boulevard Rajapruek-Rama V

Work Place Ratchada-Ramindra

Vista Avenue Petchkasem 81

Vista Park Changwattna

Vista Park, Prachachuen

Centric Scene Condominium, Aree 2

Centric Scene Sukhumvit 64

SC Park Hotel Used as a base for meetings by the UDD. Also housed the UDD leaders.

SC Matchbox Co A full service advertising agency - handled public relations for Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and the Thai Rak Thai Party since the founding of the party three years ago. Also handled government contracts through then PM Thaksin.

Shinawatra Thai Silk Co

Shinawatra Tower (for lease)

Shinawatra University

Thai Air Asia The Shinawatra family is said to hold a majority shareholder by nominee in Thai Air Asia, through Asia Aviation which is 51 percent owned by Sittichai Veerathummnoon, following the sale of Shin Corp. Note: The Thaksin government allowed Air Asia to open new domestic and international routes that overlap the routes of Thai Airways International. As a result, THAI was forced to reduce its domestic and international flights and cancelled profitable routes, amid allegations that it was forced by the government to make way for Air Asia.

Thaicom Satellite Plc formerly Shin Satellite. Airs red-shirts' People's Channel (PTV) which provides free satellite dishes to the provincial areas, giving rural folks access to just one station, opening them to communist-style brainwashing propaganda tactics.

PHANTHONGTAE SHINAWATRA'S BUSINESSES

Voice TV Co., Ltd. an around-the-clock online and satellite television channel founded in November 2009 by Panthongtae Shinawatra and Pinthongtae Shinawatra. Programmes include an English-language news analyses by ML Nattakorn Devakula and in-depth talks by Jom Phetpradap and Tuangporn Asawawilai, former staff members of iTV.

JJ Mall airconditioned mall behind Chatuchak Weekend Market

How Come Entertainment Co An entertainment firm which was awarded an exclusive advertising contract for the Bangkok Metro and many other government contracts when his father was prime minister, irregardless that the advertising concession for the subway had previously been awarded to the long established Triad Networks Company

Panthongtae is chief executive and president of How Come. Other executives include Aiyakup Kritboonyaleai (daughter of Darunee), Hana Tassanavalai and Nantasit Jamsomboon.

YAOWAPHA WONGSUWAT'S BUSINESSES (concealed ownership)

Ascon Construction Plc held jointly with the Wilailak family, owner of Samart

Beverly Hills Housing Project

Capital OK

Chinnicha Ville

M Link Asia Corporation Plc

Portal Net Company

Riverside Privacy in partnership with the Mahagitsiri Family

Srangsin Property Co Ltd

Traffic Corner Holdings Plc won advertising concession from the Tourism Authority as well as cable TV concessions from the Public Relations Department

WinCoast Industrial Park Plc in partnership with the Mahagitsiri Family

SUPPORTERS OF THAKSIN AND UDD

Scanner Electric International Co Ltd produces Misushita appliances. Owned by Somwang Asarasee , a UDD core leader and owner of the Truth Today trademark. Somwang also owns Krung Siam Beverage, producer of Commando Bear energy drink.

Darunee Kritboonyalai known for her extremely extravagant spending habits and shocking dress style aimed at catching media attention. Shareholder of Oishi Restaurants, producers of Oishi Green Tea. Family owns troubled company that produces Senator brand air conditioning.

Grand Waroros Palace Hotel UDD Base in Chiang Mai

Imperial World Department Store Hosts of UDD meetings.

Imperial Lardprao houses UDD's People Channel

Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel Controlled by the Watannavekin Family, led by Khunying Natthika Angubolkul. Sister Panida is the wife of Peua Thai Party Deputy Pornthep Thepkanchana. Family owns Amarin Plaza, Amarin Tower, Erawan Bangkok, Courtyard by Marriott, Hyatt Regency Hua Hin and Barai Spa Hotel.

FAMILIES THAT BENEFITTED FROM THAKSIN'S POLICY CORRUPTION

Jungrungruengkit Family of the Thai Summit Group of Companies. Includes

Summit Footwear

Windwill Golf Club and Housing Project

Picnic

Siam Gas

Prayudh Mahagitsiri and Family, own Thai Copper Industry, Thai Film Industry and Thainox Co Ltd as well as the following:

Riverside Privacy Condominium

Mountain Creek Golf Course, Khao Yai

Lakewood Golf Course, Bangna

411 Entertainment (TV soap film production)

Quality Coffee, producers of Nescafe

Maleenond Family Channel 3

BEC World

Asavabhokin Family of Land and House Co Ltd

Raksiaksorn Family King Power Duty Free Shops

SYMPATHISERS BY ASSOCIATION

Real Estate Pinehurst Golf Course

Bonanza Resort and Golf Course

Amata Industrial Estate

Hospitals Paolo Hospital

Vibhavadee Hospital

Media Thai Rath Newspaper

Khao Sod Newspaper

Matichon Newspaper

Daily News Newspaper

Prachathai website

Religious Dhammakaya Temple

Services Black Canyon Restaurants

GMM Grammy

RS Entertainment

Cherdchai Tour

Ratchasima Tour

Ran Ya Nueng (Nueng Pharmaceutical store)

REFERENCES

http://aceproject.org/ero-en/regions/asia/...in_Thailand.pdf

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/26...cs_30014674.php

http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/...f-darkness.html

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showCon...90&id2=3912

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/rea...tion+Commission

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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/02/17...ss_20001027.php

http://www.asiatraveltips.com/news06/172-AirAsia.shtml

Bangkok Post, February 16, 2006 "New firm raises nominee question"

by Kositchotethana, Boonsong

www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-77345779.html

www.bangkokpost.com/.../sc-asset-still-cautious-but-ready-to-respond-to-upturn

http://www.scasset.com/img/annual/SC%20ASSET_eng_2006.pdf

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http://www.fnweb.com/thailand/companyinfo/...PANY_CODE=MLINK

1 Oct 2003

virtualreview.org/thailand/zoom/.../hotel-chiang-mai-ch-hotel

http://www.antithaksin.com/BlankForm.php?Aid=0801030

http://www.thaipro.com/thailand_00/4033-th...dget-hotels.htm

ADDITIONAL REFERENCES

1. Anon, Thailand Legal Basics, Tilleke & Gibbins, International Ltd, March 2003.

http://www.tillekeandgibbins.com/Publicati...d_legal_basics/

2. Pasuk Phongpaichit and Sungsidh Piriyarangsan, Corruption and Democracy in Thailand, Silkworm Books, Reprint edition, June 1999.

3. Nualnoi Treerat, Thailand: Fight against Corruption, Political Economy Center, Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok 2000.

http://www.fes.or.kr/Corruption/papers/Thailand.htm

4. Pasuk Phongpaichit, Nualnoi Treerat, Yongyuth Chaiyapong and Chris Baker, Corruption in the Public Sector in Thailand: Perception and Experience of Households. Political Economy Center, Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok 2000.

5. Anon, Transparency International Corruption Perception Index 2003, Transparency International, July 2003.

http://www.transparency.org/pressreleases_....07.cpi.en.html

6. Kanokkan Anukansai, Anti-Corruption and Transparency Radio Broadcasts, Thailand, Transparency International, 2003.

http://www.transparency.org/toolkits/2002/...io_thailand.pdf

7. Kanokkan Anukansai, Transparency Youth Camp, Thailand, Transparency International, 2003.

http://www.transparency.org/toolkits/2002/...mp_thailand.pdf

8. Anon, OECD Convention on Combatting Bribery of Foreign Public Officials in International Business Transactions, Ratification Status as at 10

March 2004, OECD.

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/59/13/1898632.pdf

9. Jeremy Pope, Confronting Corruption: The Elements of a National Integrity System, Transparency International, 2000.

http://www.transparency.org/sourcebook/index.html

10. Anon, THAILAND – A Country Study, Federal Research Division, U.S. Library of Congress, September 1987.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/thtoc.html

11. Lee Kim Chew, THAILAND: Taking the bite out of the Thai press, The Straits Times, Friday, February 27, 2004.

12. Li Choy Chong, Lectures of the course "International Management: Asia" that took place at Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, University of St Gallen, 2004.

13. Anon, Attacs on the Press 2003: Documented Cases from Asia for 2003, Committee to Protect Journalists, 2003.

http://www.cpj.org/attacks03/asia03/thai.html

14. Duangkamol Chotana and Frank Flatters, Corruption in Thailand: The Media are Only the Messengers, The Nation, Bangkok, April 19, 2001.

15. Anon , Source Book 2000, Chapter 5, Transparency International, 2000.

www.transparency.org/sourcebook/

16. Anon, Government meddling leads to self-censorship, Bangkok Post, December 29, 2003.

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ADDITIONAL REFERENCES IN THAI

Constitutional Court. 30 May 2007, decision p. 2 3-5/2550.

Nualnoi Treerat, et al. 2003. Civic participation in monitoring Tambon Administrative Organizations, Faculty of Economics, Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok.

Pasuk Pongpaichit, et al. 1998. Corruption in Thai bureaucracy. National Counter Corruption Commission, Bangkok.

Pasuk Pongpaichit, et al. 2003. Business, state, and corruption. National Counter Corruption Commission, Bangkok.

Rosana Tositrakul, et al. 2005. The brave men against corruption: Five case studies; a study on impacts and violence against civic monitoring

of corruption, Papyrus Publication, Bangkok.

Supachai Yawaprapas, et al. 2001. Bureaucrats?perspectives on corruption and position buying. Office of the Civil Service Commission, Bangkok.

Thank you for the info, good post.

[Skywalker69]

A good laugh

Thank you for sharing

[maccaroni man]

A good laugh

Thank you for sharing

i almost stopped watching before the actual song started, i am glad i waited. good way to start the day

[old wanderer]

Thankyou Skywalker69, that is one of the more useful poast I have seen on this board.

Since the entire Shiniwatra clan is under the finacial freeze orders, I really wish this government would play just a little, and issue a search warrent for Pojaman's home, and staff the search crew with unemployed workers from World Trade and other buisness that are no more. (They do need the work).

I sure the could do a intense and detailed job of looking for any evidence.

Who know what they might turn up with??

[brahmburgers]

One of the most lasting and most despicable results of the Red engineered rallies is the harm done to regular folks trying to make a living in Bangkok.

The Shinawats and their friends who funded the rallies should have known the immense harm that would ensue from the actions they were funding. The Red leaders should have known also. The demonstrators themselves wouldn't have known, because they can't think beyond the end of their noses.

The fact that hundreds of regular people put out of work during the demonstrations is bad enough. Yet, with the riots and burning, now those folks plus thousands others, are facing dire situations. No work, no inventory for their stores/stalls, not being able to pay rent and other financial obligations. Many will be forced to leave their rented homes, and their children will suffer at least as much - taken out of school, not enough food, not enough money for basic things like clothes, toiletries, tuition, etc.

To Thaksin, the Shinawats and your buddies: THANKS A LOT - for inflicting so much suffering on those people. .....and that doesn't include the residual harm that will reverberate throughout the Thai economy for years, maybe decades to come.

[chadintheusa]

I read that Thaksin is heading to London next, I would hope that they would arrest him there and deport him to Thailand. His wife should also be arrested if she returns to Thailand. They ought to stand trial for supporting terrorism and directing it. If he is innocent let him prove it, if he is guilty let the government present its evidence. Thaksin has spent enough time hiding abroad using fake names and purchased passports. His corruption was bad enough, but the ruin he has brought on his own country is truly horrific, what an evil man.

[jayinoz]

Shut the hel_l up Taksin- this man loves to create attention around himself.

Wonder what he will do when no one gives a dam about him again. Men like that would prefer to be dead... Thankfully.

Pay no attention and he will disappear.

Let the authorities bring him to justice and sentence him as the terrorist he is... nothing less.

[Rucharee]

Thaksin go home.

I mean go to jail for all the looting and arson.

[Rucharee]

'Course it is.

nice speech, he is a real man , he kept his word, at least in a coutry where it's rare to do so .

Maybe you're saying that tongue-in-cheek as in 'he kept his word' about burning Thailand.

But in reality, he's not keeping his word about 'taking responsibility.' He, like all the other Red shirts in jail, will squirm so much as to make worms jealous, while trying to weezle out of any responsibility for the problems they actively fomented.

yeah, next it was a figure of speech or a quote from someone obscure in history. I'm sure sooner or later, he'll get sorted out. Ol' Thaksin never really got away, looks over his shoulder, lives in misery, developed cancer and has rapidly aged. For some, remaining alive is the most suitable punishment.

The Farang did it.

[KMUTT]

Takkie Shinegera , he has a new passport in different names if the gossip is true , he has one from Montenegro as a citizen which gives him EU access.

added that the fugitive former leader had temporarily left Paris for London.

My understanding of the British Embassy in Montenegro website is that he would STILL require a visa to enter the UK on his Montenegrin passport and in light of his previous visa revocation to the UK, I think it's unlikely, in reality, that he ever made it to London.

Edited May 22, 2010 by KMUTT

[parmo1]

Whatever the silly things that posters are putting on here, the redshirts have changed the landscape. The government can only suppress a mob for a short time. The government will now have to really address the grievances of people from the North who, of course, live in massive numbers in BKK too. If they do not, they will lose any election, and there will be frequent yellowshirt actions at the airport

The Thai elite think that they are masters of the universe entirely due to their own abilities. Only when their businesses are severly hit by massive drop in tourists will it hit home that they are dependent on EVERYONE in the country being content with their lives. In the west capitalism realised that hundreds of years ago

[tracer5050]

If he is involved > Hes lost any respect I ever had for him , And what he did for LOS

[tracer5050]

yea what ever ,,,

[SomTumTiger]

One of the most lasting and most despicable results of the Red engineered rallies is the harm done to regular folks trying to make a living in Bangkok.

The Shinawats and their friends who funded the rallies should have known the immense harm that would ensue from the actions they were funding. The Red leaders should have known also. The demonstrators themselves wouldn't have known, because they can't think beyond the end of their noses.

The fact that hundreds of regular people put out of work during the demonstrations is bad enough. Yet, with the riots and burning, now those folks plus thousands others, are facing dire situations. No work, no inventory for their stores/stalls, not being able to pay rent and other financial obligations. Many will be forced to leave their rented homes, and their children will suffer at least as much - taken out of school, not enough food, not enough money for basic things like clothes, toiletries, tuition, etc.

To Thaksin, the Shinawats and your buddies: THANKS A LOT - for inflicting so much suffering on those people. .....and that doesn't include the residual harm that will reverberate throughout the Thai economy for years, maybe decades to come.

Indeed Brahms - I wonder how much longer the Thakins PR Machine is going to inflict us with these idiot posters who get banned after less then a week - and a 100 posts. Is there anyone way to ignore eveyone who has less than 100 posts?

Amen

[brahmburgers]

Upcoming big headline:

Massive Class Action Lawsuit Against Protest Bankrollers

In what's shaping up to be the biggest class-action suit in Thailand's history, businesses and persons adversely affected by the recent rallies will sue the perpetrators. Though former PM Thaksin is the most prominent paymaster, there are a slew of other rich Thais who paid to maintain and prolong the protest. Plaintiffs will show that Thaksin and his family and friends tangibly contributed to the damages which afflicted parts of Bangkok, as well as thousands of people who lost their livelihood, and hundreds of businesses which were damaged and/or destroyed.

- - - - - -

I was thinking about Thaksin's new law team, Amsterdam et. al., and was reflecting how they'd probably love to see a giant bunch of litigation regarding their client. The lawyers win, no matter what the outcome.

It brought to mind a quote from the Larry Flint movie starring Woody Harrelson. Flint was a millionaire publisher of a popular xxx girlie magazine in the US. When Flint's lawyer gets so frustrated and threatens to leave, because Flint is so corrupt, the Flint character says with a smile:

"You can't leave. I'm the perfect client. I'm rich, I'm fun, and I'm always in trouble."

except for the fun part, that description fits Thaksin to a T.

Edited May 22, 2010 by brahmburgers

[KMUTT]

The same prison the red shirt leaders are currently ...uhm ...suffering in?

Saw the video footage of the Red Leaders confinement at the military camp in Phetchaburi as depicted above (an important distinction is that it is NOT a prison) and yes, hopefully it's only temporary and that once things are settled, they are transferred to an actual prison where the accommodations are much more in tune with the crimes they committed.

Edited May 22, 2010 by KMUTT

[SomTumTiger]

Saw the video footage of the Red Leaders confinement at the military camp in Phetchaburi as depicted above and yes, hopefully it's only temporary and that once things are settled, they are transferred to an actual prison where the accommodations are much more in tune with the crimes they committed.

I have a firing squad I am not using - they are welcome to borrow them.

[KMUTT]

Saw the video footage of the Red Leaders confinement at the military camp in Phetchaburi as depicted above (an important distinction is that it is NOT a prison) and yes, hopefully it's only temporary and that once things are settled, they are transferred to an actual prison where the accommodations are much more in tune with the crimes they committed.

I have a firing squad I am not using - they are welcome to borrow them.

In keeping with Thailand's current policy, the lethal injection table is their possible fate

[Sisaketmike]

"Today Thailand is mourning. I join all Thai patriots in their immediate call for calm, order and non-violence, and fully condemn the actions of those who acted with opportunism and impunity to cause reckless damage to Bangkok, which is completely alien to the cause of the protest movement," he said in the statement.

'Course it is.

/edit - nice shirt Nattawut is wearing. Where can I buy one (and live)?

You can have mine. And live with a buffalo in the Sahara.

[Samuian]

of course he denies it, like everything else he's done. best choice for him would be to not comment on it at all. i think he starts to forget all of the things he said on video.

A genuine, but highly debauched, selfproclaimed "hero",

turns his back towards those inveigled people who died for him,

he used so shamelessly for his very own, selfish cause!

When will they understand, that they are so badly being used and then dumped?

.... it's not over yet, he won't stop until..... again he was so close, very, very close!

Here an excerpt what former PM Mr.Chaun has to say about this:

Former PM Chuan Leekpai Says Bangkok Violence Pre-Planned Abroad

BANGKOK, 20 May 2010 (NNT) – Bangkok violence was pre-planned abroad, according to Democrat Party chief adviser and former Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai. Mr Chuan said on Friday that riot in the capital this week was ordered from overseas, by someone who wanted to take back his power. He was certain that the riot was not spontaneous reaction by anger protesters but planned by some people who targeted to destroy national economy with their attempts to persuade the global community to believe that the government was unable to control the situation. The former Prime Minister and veteran politician stressed that public sabotage and riot was instigated in a bid to seek foreign intervention in Thailand's internal affairs.

by e-mail:"Travel Impact Newswire" <[email protected]>

Edited May 22, 2010 by Samuian

[SomTumTiger]

of course he denies it, like everything else he's done. best choice for him would be to not comment on it at all. i think he starts to forget all of the things he said on video.

A genuine, but highly debauched, selfproclaimed "hero",

turns his back towards those inveigled people who died for him,

he used so shamelessly for his very own, selfish cause!

When will they understand, that they are so badly being used and then dumped?

.... it's not over yet, he won't stop until..... again he was so close, very, very close!

Here an excerpt whta Chaun hasto say about this:

Former PM Chuan Leekpai Says Bangkok Violence Pre-Planned Abroad

BANGKOK, 20 May 2010 (NNT) – Bangkok violence was pre-planned abroad, according to Democrat Party chief adviser and former Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai. Mr Chuan said on Friday that riot in the capital this week was ordered from overseas, by someone who wanted to take back his power. He was certain that the riot was not spontaneous reaction by anger protesters but planned by some people who targeted to destroy national economy with their attempts to persuade the global community to believe that the government was unable to control the situation. The former Prime Minister and veteran politician stressed that public sabotage and riot was instigated in a bid to seek foreign intervention in Thailand's internal affairs.

by e-mail:"Travel Impact Newswire" <[email protected]>

Chuan is a smart man, and certainly not a liar. We all know that Thaksin ordered the burnings. The terrorist label is quite appropriate.

[NanaFoods]

He blamed "state violence and human rights abuses" for the loss of life.

Oh, I see....like the state violence and human rights abuses he perpetrated on the Thai people during his reign?

Hypocrite.

In addition to authorities tracing the flow of funds from Thaksin to the Red Leaders, I would also suggest looking into his involvement in the Thai-Chinese rice milling cartels chiseling the rice farmers out of a fair market price - a major complaint by the Red farmers. I would not put it past him, that he orchestrated the milling cartel's unfairness, blaming it on the gov't, so as to generate unrest and recuit clueless farmers to his "cause" (revenge).

[lazygourmet]

The same prison the red shirt leaders are currently ...uhm ...suffering in?

Saw the video footage of the Red Leaders confinement at the military camp in Phetchaburi as depicted above (an important distinction is that it is NOT a prison) and yes, hopefully it's only temporary and that once things are settled, they are transferred to an actual prison where the accommodations are much more in tune with the crimes they committed.

These are the weekend bungalows for family and visitors to superior officers.

A friend who is based there confirmed it to me.

[hammered]

of course he denies it, like everything else he's done. best choice for him would be to not comment on it at all. i think he starts to forget all of the things he said on video.

A genuine, but highly debauched, selfproclaimed "hero",

turns his back towards those inveigled people who died for him,

he used so shamelessly for his very own, selfish cause!

When will they understand, that they are so badly being used and then dumped?

.... it's not over yet, he won't stop until..... again he was so close, very, very close!

Here an excerpt whta Chaun hasto say about this:

Former PM Chuan Leekpai Says Bangkok Violence Pre-Planned Abroad

BANGKOK, 20 May 2010 (NNT) – Bangkok violence was pre-planned abroad, according to Democrat Party chief adviser and former Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai. Mr Chuan said on Friday that riot in the capital this week was ordered from overseas, by someone who wanted to take back his power. He was certain that the riot was not spontaneous reaction by anger protesters but planned by some people who targeted to destroy national economy with their attempts to persuade the global community to believe that the government was unable to control the situation. The former Prime Minister and veteran politician stressed that public sabotage and riot was instigated in a bid to seek foreign intervention in Thailand's internal affairs.

by e-mail:"Travel Impact Newswire" <[email protected]>

Chuan is a smart man, and certainly not a liar. We all know that Thaksin ordered the burnings. The terrorist label is quite appropriate.

Apparently there are interview records where Thaksin was not very guarded in his commnets and the government will use these as evidence. Of course everyone knows he is behind it all but proving it is another thing andf Thaksin never was a man to accept responsibility for his actions

[animatic]

Whatever the silly things that posters are putting on here, the redshirts have changed the landscape. The government can only suppress a mob for a short time. The government will now have to really address the grievances of people from the North who, of course, live in massive numbers in BKK too. If they do not, they will lose any election, and there will be frequent yellowshirt actions at the airport

The Thai elite think that they are masters of the universe entirely due to their own abilities. Only when their businesses are severly hit by massive drop in tourists will it hit home that they are dependent on EVERYONE in the country being content with their lives. In the west capitalism realised that hundreds of years ago

That is a utopian fantasy sold by Uni professors as a hypothetical,

that some students want to be come real. Not the brightest students.

Capitalism didn't 'realize' anything, it is simply a method of economic management.

There is no society on earth, where all people in the country are content with their lives.

Capitalism brings you the CHANCE to make the most of your life, not a guarantee.

You have to do it, and waiting for the free handout isn't gonna cut it.

Yes, the politicians will have to address issues in Issan. But in a practical way,

not with splashy band aids, and showy feats of PR as Thaksin did.

And REAL education to create creative thinkers is needed, and not the 'string them along'

kind Thaksin called improvements. He kept in place a land of compliant, subservients,

while making them THINK they were getting an truly improved life. The Thaksin political

machine, didn't need thoughtful independent voters, just the opposite.

The reds have dropped tourism to the nub, but the elites they are screaming at

will just get on with less profits. But they will still go on. And they still create more jobs.

This riot did NOTHING constructive for the people of Issan. NADA!

It did prevent more money from being used earlier for Issan,

because reconstruction will be costly, and tourism will be lost

and so slash the workers from Issan that support tourism.

If you want to lobby for a much higher minimum wage go for it

No complaints here.

I know many, and because of the reds, they are VERY MUCH at risk of losing jobs,

because their bosses are losing money badly enough to need to cut back or close down.

Not the big places just the hundreds of little ones that support thousands of of people.

The red shirt leaders haven't really hurt the elites anywhere near as much as

the workers of Issan will be affected because of their mad post rally actions.

[SomTumTiger]

That is a utopian fantasy sold by Uni professors as a hypothetical,

that some students want to be come real. Not the brightest students.

Capitalism didn't 'realize' anything, it is simply a method of economic management.

There is no society on earth, where all people in the country are content with their lives.

Capitalism brings you the CHANCE to make the most of your life, not a guarantee.

You have to do it, and waiting for the free handout isn't gonna cut it.

Yes, the politicians will have to address issues in Issan. But in a practical way,

not with splashy band aids, and showy feats of PR as Thakwsin did.

The reds have dropped tourism to the nub, but the elites they are screaming at

will just get on with less profits. But they will still go on. This riot did NOTHING

constructive for the people of Issan. NADA!

It did prevent more money from being used earlier for Issan,

because reconstruction will be costly, and tourism will be lost

and so slash the works from Issan that support tourism.

I know many, and because of the reds, they are VERY MUCH at risk of losing jobs,

because their bosses are losing money badly enough to need to cut back or close down.

Not the big places just the hundreds of little ones that support thousands of of people.

The red shirt leaders haven't really hurt the elites anywhere near as much as

the workers of Issan will be affected because of their mad post rally actions.

Thanks for posting this Animatic. 100% accurate. The Red TVers will answer by saying "but the yellows...etc"

[Sisaketmike]

"Today Thailand is mourning. I join all Thai patriots in their immediate call for calm, order and non-violence, and fully condemn the actions of those who acted with opportunism and impunity to cause reckless damage to Bangkok, which is completely alien to the cause of the protest movement," he said in the statement.

'Course it is.

/edit - nice shirt Nattawut is wearing. Where can I buy one (and live)?

He denied his involvement with "any illegal or violent activities in the Kingdom of Thailand".

[hammered]

That is a utopian fantasy sold by Uni professors as a hypothetical,

that some students want to be come real. Not the brightest students.

Capitalism didn't 'realize' anything, it is simply a method of economic management.

There is no society on earth, where all people in the country are content with their lives.

Capitalism brings you the CHANCE to make the most of your life, not a guarantee.

You have to do it, and waiting for the free handout isn't gonna cut it.

Yes, the politicians will have to address issues in Issan. But in a practical way,

not with splashy band aids, and showy feats of PR as Thakwsin did.

The reds have dropped tourism to the nub, but the elites they are screaming at

will just get on with less profits. But they will still go on. This riot did NOTHING

constructive for the people of Issan. NADA!

It did prevent more money from being used earlier for Issan,

because reconstruction will be costly, and tourism will be lost

and so slash the works from Issan that support tourism.

I know many, and because of the reds, they are VERY MUCH at risk of losing jobs,

because their bosses are losing money badly enough to need to cut back or close down.

Not the big places just the hundreds of little ones that support thousands of of people.

The red shirt leaders haven't really hurt the elites anywhere near as much as

the workers of Issan will be affected because of their mad post rally actions.

Thanks for posting this Animatic. 100% accurate. The Red TVers will answer by saying "but the yellows...etc"

What the yellows did was bad but what the reds have done now is way way off the scale. Only a complete indoctrinated fool or lunatic would ever use the "but the yellows" arguement again. The yellows did not indulge in a pre-planned terrorist attack on a city and although the yellows did have some armed guards they did not have a facist militia aremd with heavy war weapons as the reds did. There is no moral higground anywhere for the reds in this. They are now simply a terrorist group identified as such by the very words of their leaders and their actions. Unfortunately within the movement there are alkso a lot of good meaning people (some indocrinated by single source indoctrination terchniques and some not) with legitmate demands. These peole and demands need to find a legitimate and non-facist leadership and govbernment need to listen to them

I see thew reds are planning another demo in BKK in June. I wonder if it will be banned. I wonder if Al Qaeda are allowed to demonstrate in London and New York

[Skywalker69]

Standard Thaksin playbook. Cause havoc and death anbd mayhem. Deny involvement. Call for forgiving him so it doesnt happen again. Whne he doesnt get his way more and worse violence.

Red leaders already admitted getting money form him and now reportedly Veera has admitted he advised them. As red leaders called for Arson attacks there is enough to exclude him from anything. Thaksin is part of the problem and not part of the solution.

As Thitinan in the Guardian said Thaksin needs to make a sacrifice by withdrawing from the red movement. It seems small chance of that which in turn is going to tie the governments hand too. Interesting to see Thaksin has made the first move to put him center stage in what comes next - no surprise there. At what point though will the red movement or at least part of it really move beyond Thaksin rather than just talk about in press conferences while actually keeping himn center ot every speech they make and taking the money from him and his minions

Edited to add: it also plays to the meme his spin doctor will try to create internationally. If the government can show a financial trail to the reds then they can ask for extradition for terrorism now. Thaksin is being deliberately divisive with his desccribing a movement whose leaders called for mass arson heroic.

100% agree, and not only that.

He has now, yet again, placing himself above the red leaders, and back on his Puyai perch.

No longer a phrae, and just as these guys are looking at SERIOUS jail time or worse....

And he hangs them out to dry.....

I wonder how much that is worth in the frozen bank accounts the wives can't touch now?

I wonder how many of the red leaders will be happy he morally, publicly, and financially deserted them

when they face the noose, or at least ending their days in a deep barred hole of their own digging?

Should pry a few more cash transactions, bagmen with stories to tell, and paper trails out of the woodwork,

when the rush of their time on stage as 'masters of the universe' fades away, and they are just

isolated single men, looking into a dark tunnel of their fate.

Which one will turn 'states evidence' first?

Question of the week.

Good post, thanks. i think in the end even the rural people will find out that Mr.T is nothing but a liar.( When the first shot is fired i will be in Bangkok fiting on your side) As*ole

[Skywalker69]

A question; if Thaksin is charged for terrorisms, then he should be on no flight list. Meaning he can't be in any plane travelling around.

It this True?

He got his own Learjet.