PST Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Is there a Thai equivalant of this saying? Thanks in advance. PST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PST Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share Posted July 12, 2010 After some searching,the closest i can get is- kai die ploy-,which i think means not knowing the value of a good thing. Anyone? PST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) Okay, I'll start the ball rolling. This means "I will not/never be your victim." This is not what you asked but it is a starting point till the big guns come in. ไม่มีวันผมจะเป็นเหยื่อแก Mai mee wan phom ja pen yeua gae Or this one "I will not/never be anybody's victim." ไม่มีวันผมจะเป็นเหยื่อของใครก็ได้ Mai mee wan phom ja pen yeua khorng khrai gor dai Edited July 13, 2010 by Briggsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidHouston Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Here is a sentence from Khom Chat Luk: (คมชัดลึกวันพฤหัสบดีที่ 17 มิถุนายน 2553 "รู้ว่าผู้เสียหายมีทรัพย์สินจึงอุ้มตัวมาเรียกค่าไถ่" "[They] knew that the person who disappeared was a person of wealth; therefore they kidnapped him and demanded a ransom [for his return]." Might this be relevant to the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PST Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 In this instance,no,but thanks for the reply anyway. PST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krading Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) A bit of a guess here but something along the lines of ผมไม่ได้จะเป็นค่าไถ่ I'm sure someone can improve on this. ผมจะเป็นค่าไถ่ไม่ได้ may be better. Edited July 13, 2010 by krading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoydy Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Here's my guess ผมไม่ยอมใครมาจับตัวไปเรียกค่าไถ่ But then this would only be in the literal sense of being held for ransom i think, whereas you are probably talking figuratively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I like bhoydy's but would put a ให้ "hai" after the word ยอม "yom". ผมไม่ยอมให้ใครมาจับตัวไปเรียกค่าไถ่ It is very literal though. I think, to be able to give a suitable Thai version you would need to know the context in which "I won't be held to ransom" is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoydy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I like bhoydy's but would put a ให้ "hai" after the word ยอม "yom". ผมไม่ยอมให้ใครมาจับตัวไปเรียกค่าไถ่ It is very literal though. I think, to be able to give a suitable Thai version you would need to know the context in which "I won't be held to ransom" is used. Thanks for that pick up, i noticed it this morning when i was reading my grammar book that it should include ให้, but i've heard it spoken without the ให้. Does that change the meaning? Also i wasn't sure if it was clear from the context who didn't want to be held to ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I am not really sure if it changes the meaning, but my take is that ยอม means to give in while ยอมให้ means to allow. Thus, the meaning of what you originally wrote would be "I would not give in to anyone that took me for ransom", although I believe there should be a ที่ "ti" in that case. ผมไม่ยอมใครที่มาจับตัวไปเรียกค่าไถ่ The meaning of the version containing ให้ would be "I would not allow anyone to take me for ransom". Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBYTIN Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 hold your left hand straight out and slowly raise the middle finger,this is universal for,i will not be held to ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoydy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Yeah thanks GarryP that makes more sense, i would guess the version with ให้ is better for this case, for it's literal meaning anyway. To get a similar meaning in Thai a book of idioms is required, but i don't have one i'm afraid. Bobbytin, thanks so much for your input. I'll keep it in mind for the next time i'm travelling to a new country. Maybe i'll just walk through immigration with both hands raised like that to make sure everyone understands me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Surely the OP is saying he won't be threatened- อย่าขู่ yar khoo don't threaten, or if it's his wife threatening to withdraw certain services if he doesn't cough up for a pick-up ผมไม่กล้วเมีย pom mai klua mia- I'm not afraid of my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) I think the inference about being held to ransom or not being scared of someone is quite different. Again, it all comes down to context. If a person is held to a metaphorical ransom by another, it does not necessarily follow that the person held ransom is or is not scared of the other. Not being afraid of the wife does not mean that she cannot hold you to ransom. Edited July 15, 2010 by GarryP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 The OP asks if there is a Thai equivalent of the saying,'I won't be held to ransom'. He doesn't say the words, 'I won't be held...... The saying in English means the conditions you set, the threats you make, blackmail of whatever kind, will not faze me, make me give in. I can stand up to you. I don't know a Thai idiom to match that, but telling someone you're not afraid of their threats may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aanon Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) The word "blackmail" is well understood by Thais, so you could try อย่าคิดเลยว่าจะแบล็กเมล์ฉันได้ (do not think you'll be able to blackmail me) or ฉันไม่ยอมให้ใครมาแบล็คเมล์ฉันหรอก (I'm not about to let anyone blackmail me). Depends, of course, on the situation. PST? Any details? aanon Edited July 15, 2010 by aanon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsbloke Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 suk jai mua glai panraya Happiness is when wife far away adapted from my wifes T-shirt slogan (สุขใจเมื่อไกลผัว) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoydy Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 The word "blackmail" is well understood by Thais, so you could try อย่าคิดเลยว่าจะแบล็กเมล์ฉันได้ (do not think you'll be able to blackmail me) or ฉันไม่ยอมให้ใครมาแบล็คเมล์ฉันหรอก (I'm not about to let anyone blackmail me). Depends, of course, on the situation. PST? Any details? aanon I like your usage of หรอก here aanon. I don't think these are situations where one would be using ครับ or the likes. หรอก rawk(L) fits the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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