July 10, 200521 yr London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 9 2005 A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th. On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm. Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch. Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life. The transcript is as follows. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2...ngexercises.htm Very 911, conspiracy? coincidence? lies?
July 10, 200521 yr Wondered how long it would be before you spewed forth another one of your wacko conspiracy theories, Gent...
July 10, 200521 yr Author Wondered how long it would be before you spewed forth another one of your wacko conspiracy theories, Gent... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didnt write it! Listen to the actual radio interview - very strange indeed!
July 10, 200521 yr Author another interesting link I just noticed: Al Qaeda is not and never has been a "terrorist organization." "Al-Qaida,(sic) literally 'the database,' was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians," admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, whose Foreign Office portfolio included control of British Intelligence Agency MI-6 and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), in a column published by the UK Guardian newspaper. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html) In other words, the so-called Al Qaeda, which has been promoted by the Media Cartel as the cause of all bombings and terrorism since the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, is simply a database of CIA trained "terrorists" (or "freedom fighters," depending on your perspective) which has become a convenient Global Boogeyman for the 21st Century. What does this mean? The entire planet has been fooled into believing that an Islamic "organization" exists to promote the destruction of Western society, when in fact this "organization" is just a list of Pentagon/ CIA trained assassins, who can be used and discarded as needed. Are we living in the twilight zone? probably just me!
July 10, 200521 yr isnt it amazing how these things come out after the event........ of course if the events didnt take place we would never hear about such things
July 10, 200521 yr Author isnt it amazing how these things come out after the event........ of course if the events didnt take place we would never hear about such things <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why> would you think they would broadcast that info to the populace? Go back to taking up space and Ill sort out the worlds problems
July 10, 200521 yr another interesting link I just noticed:Al Qaeda is not and never has been a "terrorist organization." "Al-Qaida,(sic) literally 'the database,' was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians," admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, whose Foreign Office portfolio included control of British Intelligence Agency MI-6 and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), in a column published by the UK Guardian newspaper. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html) In other words, the so-called Al Qaeda, which has been promoted by the Media Cartel as the cause of all bombings and terrorism since the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, is simply a database of CIA trained "terrorists" (or "freedom fighters," depending on your perspective) which has become a convenient Global Boogeyman for the 21st Century. What does this mean? The entire planet has been fooled into believing that an Islamic "organization" exists to promote the destruction of Western society, when in fact this "organization" is just a list of Pentagon/ CIA trained assassins, who can be used and discarded as needed. Are we living in the twilight zone? probably just me! No conspiracy here...it is known fact that OBL was indeed in league with the US at one stage.....the relationship soured and AQ was formed.
July 10, 200521 yr Author Interesting! AL QAEDA WEBSITE TRACKS BACK TO ... MARYLAND??? Submitted by two readers. Last night on CNN I heard them making a connection between the London bombings and an “Islamic terrorist” website called alneda.com. I tried to view the website but it’s been taken offline. I did find the following three year old reference to alneda.com on CNN: From: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/0...binladen.video/ "These statements and others from al Qaeda have been appearing from time to time on a Web site called www.alneda.com. "In recent months, the site, which experts suspect is closely linked to al Qaeda, also has posted manifestos signed "al Qaeda jihad" in which it says bin Laden is alive and well and preparing future attacks against the United States. ---------- Interesting "link" to al-Qaeda, as revealed by whois data for alneda.com: ---------- [WHOIS ALNEDA.COM] Registration Service Provided By: DIRECTI Contact: +91.2256797500 Website: http://www.directi.com Domain Name: ALNEDA.COM Registrant: SFP, Inc Jon David ([email protected]) Po 312 Berlin Maryland,21811 US Tel. +011.4107237089 Creation Date: 16-Jul-2002 Expiration Date: 16-Jul-2013 ---------- Jon David, a fine Islamic sounding name, no doubt named after a martyr or prophet or some such. Located in that hotbed of terrorism, Berlin, Maryland USA. I ran a traceroute to the web address. I've left off the first ten hops to obscure the source of my trace, to protect my privacy. But as you can see the trace ends up at broadwing.net: ---------- traceroute to alneda.com (65.89.91.148), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 11 sl-browing-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.246.82) 3.630 ms 3.539 ms 3.682 m s 12 216.140.8.6 (216.140.8.6) 4.874 ms 4.364 ms 4.431 ms 13 p4-0.c0.wash.broadwing.net (216.140.8.89) 4.361 ms 4.321 ms 4.235 ms 14 p2-0.a0.nwrk.broadwing.net (216.140.9.2) 11.472 ms 11.432 ms 11.875 ms 15 P1-0.a1.dc.nwrk.broadwing.net (216.142.236.61) 11.453 ms !H * 11.596 ms !H ---------- Broadwing Communications of Austin, TX. Hey, aren't we killing and incarcerating Iraqis so we don't have to host terrorist websites in der homeland? Admin contact info for Broadwing is provided below. Might be fun to ask them what they're doing hosting terror websites connected with the recent bombings. ---------- [WHOIS BROADWING.NET] Registrant: Broadwing Communications, LLC 1122 Capital of Texas Highway South Austin, TX 78746 US Domain Name: BROADWING.NET Administrative Contact: Smith, Kyle [email protected] Broadwing Communications, LLC 1122 South Capitol of Texas Highway Austin, TX 78746 US 302.283.2854 302.283.2802 fax: 302.283.2802 ---------- Following another line of inquiry, the authoritative name records for alneda.com are hosted by thewetlandsinc.com, and email for alneda.com is directed to thewetlandsinc.com's mail server: ---------- ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET alneda.com ns ;; ANSWER SECTION: alneda.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.thewetlandsinc.com. alneda.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.thewetlandsinc.com. ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns1.thewetlandsinc.com alneda.com ns ;; ANSWER SECTION: alneda.com. 3600 IN NS ns2.thewetlandsinc.com. alneda.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.thewetlandsinc.com. ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns1.thewetlandsinc.com alneda.com a ;; ANSWER SECTION: alneda.com. 3600 IN A 65.89.91.148 ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns1.thewetlandsinc.com alneda.com mx ;; ANSWER SECTION: alneda.com. 3600 IN MX 10 mail.thewetlandsinc.com. ---------- Thewetlandsinc.com is registered to a web hosting company in Sarasota, FL: ---------- [WHOIS THEWETLANDSINC.COM] Registrant:TheWetlands.com, Inc. PO Box 312 Berlin, MD 21811 US Domain Name: THEWETLANDSINC.COM Administrative Contact: David, Jon [email protected] 12507 SUNSET AVE STE 21 OCEAN CITY, MD 21842-9296 US 410-723-7089 fax: 410-723-7085 Record expires on 13-Oct-2011. Record created on 13-Oct-1999. Database last updated on 9-Jul-2005 12:01:33 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS2.THEWETLANDSINC.COM 216.226.150.171 NS1.THEWETLANDSINC.COM 216.226.150.170 ---------- “Abu Musab” Jon David of Maryland again! Note the registrant for thewetlandsinc.com is TheWetlands.com, Inc.: ---------- [WHOIS THEWETLANDS.COM] Registrant: TheWetlands.com, Inc. Unlisted-Whois.com Protection Service P.O. Box 229 Margaretville, NY 12455 US Domain Name: THEWETLANDS.COM Administrative Contact- Unlisted-Whois.com, LLC Ref# 103974: [email protected] Unlisted-Whois.com Protection Service P.O. Box 229 Margaretville, NY 12455 US Phone- 4107353410 Fax- 014107353433 Record create date: 1998-01-27 Record expires on: 2007-01-26 ---------- Thewetlands.com is a Porn site. Kind of a strange place for an Islamic fundamentalist to choose to host a jihadi website. Returning to the registry for alneda.com, Jon David’s admin contact info references an email address at 4jon.com; the admin contact for 4jon.com is listed as a PO box in NY: ---------- Unlisted-Whois.com Protection Service P.O. Box 229 Margaretville, NY 12455 US Domain Name: 4JON.COM Administrative Contact Unlisted-Whois.com, LLC Ref# 103966: [email protected] Unlisted-Whois.com Protection Service P.O. Box 229 Margaretville, NY 12455 US Phone 4107353410 Fax 014107353433 ---------- According the CNN June 25, 2002 web ariticle (URL listed above): “The site reappeared in early June and this time CNN traced it to a Web-hosting company in Texas. As CNN went to air with another story on it last Monday, alneda.com once again disappeared from the Web. ---------- However, as the above traceroute shows, the DNS for alneda.com still points web queries to broadwing.net, in Austin, TX. Interesting how the U.S. corporate medium absolutely fails to point out that this “terrorist” webiste is hosted in Texas. Also interesting is CNN’s suggestion is 2002 that alneda.com had “once again disappeared from the Web”. It appears it’s where it has always been. These people never hear of investigative journalism? What I want to know is: who the ###### is Jon David, and why is he maintaining a “terrorist” website in Texas? Maybe we should notify the Berlin, MD police of the “terrorist” in their midst. Or der Homeland Security? It also might be fun to contact Broadwing and the domain name registrars and ask them what they’re doing associating with terrorists? Weird how Muslim charities have been targeted since 911, but somehow this “terrorist” alneda.com has managed to reside in Texas for three years.
July 10, 200521 yr isnt it amazing how these things come out after the event........ of course if the events didnt take place we would never hear about such things why> would you think they would broadcast that info to the populace? Go back to taking up space and Ill sort out the worlds problems Dont you think in this world today that is so easy to come up with these things after an event and release it to the populace complete with "hard evidence" to back it up.... I will gladly let you sort out the worlds problems........but be warned it is a big job.. You got too much time on your hands Torny... Edited July 10, 200521 yr by gburns57au
July 10, 200521 yr Author isnt it amazing how these things come out after the event........ of course if the events didnt take place we would never hear about such things <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why> would you think they would broadcast that info to the populace? Go back to taking up space and Ill sort out the worlds problems <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dont you think in this world today that is so easy to come up with these things after an event and release it to the populace complete with "hard evidence" to back it up.... I will gladly let you sort out the worlds problems........but be warned it is a big job.. You got too much time on your hands Torny... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes I do mate, but its definately an interesting read, as "Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch." credibility? I think so!
July 10, 200521 yr Interesting! ... Maybe we should notify the Berlin, MD police of the “terrorist” in their midst. Or der Homeland Security? It also might be fun to contact Broadwing and the domain name registrars and ask them what they’re doing associating with terrorists? Weird how Muslim charities have been targeted since 911, but somehow this “terrorist” alneda.com has managed to reside in Texas for three years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The trouble is with journalists and those who have grown up with the internet always there (and maybe perhaps Tornado) is that they somehow, especially if they enjoyed some of the more anarchistic benefits of the system during the early 90’s, believe they invented the Internet. Also, supported by the odd stories of German hackers and almost unlimited virus distribution, believe they know exactly how the system is screwed together, especially if they maybe are able to eek a living out of possessing apparently such esoteric knowledge such as ip addresses, routers or whois. What they forget, or have never realised, is that the whole system, starting with ARPANET, was created by the military services – a branch of which is the military intelligence service. It is naivety of an extreme simplistic nature to assume the intelligence services are not aware of the exact location of every website, their owners and administrators long before some smartass computer freak uses his whois or traceit or any other net detection software freely available from the simplest of ftp sites. Edited July 10, 200521 yr by Thomas_Merton
July 10, 200521 yr Author Interesting! ... Maybe we should notify the Berlin, MD police of the “terrorist” in their midst. Or der Homeland Security? It also might be fun to contact Broadwing and the domain name registrars and ask them what they’re doing associating with terrorists? Weird how Muslim charities have been targeted since 911, but somehow this “terrorist” alneda.com has managed to reside in Texas for three years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The trouble is with journalists and those who have grown up with the internet always there (and maybe perhaps Tornado) is that they somehow, especially if they enjoyed some of the more anarchistic benefits of the system during the early 90’s, believe they invented the Internet. Also, supported by the odd stories of German hackers and almost unlimited virus distribution, believe they know exactly how the system is screwed together, especially if they maybe are able to eek a living out of possessing apparently such esoteric knowledge such as ip addresses, routers or whois. What they forget, or have never realised, is that the whole system, starting with ARPANET, was created by the military services – a branch of which is the military intelligence service. It is naivety of an extreme simplistic nature to assume the intelligence services are not aware of the exact location of every website, their owners and administrators long before some smartass computer freak uses his whois or traceit or any other net detection software freely available from the simplest of ftp sites. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> earth to Thomas
July 10, 200521 yr ...earth to Thomas <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was going to write about when do you think a respectable security firm should hold an exercise on a terrorist attack? In the middle of the night when, if they are lucky, there are two drunks and a sleepy dog on the trains? But judging by your attempt at wit - you clearly wouldn't understand.
July 10, 200521 yr London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack..... A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.... ....Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life. Very 911, conspiracy? coincidence? lies? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is the unnamed company`s name? Al Queda?? Edited July 10, 200521 yr by kayo
July 10, 200521 yr ...earth to Thomas I was going to write about when do you think a respectable security firm should hold an exercise on a terrorist attack? In the middle of the night when, if they are lucky, there are two drunks and a sleepy dog on the trains? But judging by your attempt at wit - you clearly wouldn't understand. You got that right, Thomas. That delusional Oziee does not and cannot comprehend...
July 11, 200521 yr To add fuel to your fire tornado, the company that will be providing the USD500 million bomb scanners for the london underground is Quinetiq which is under the umbrella of the private equity company the carlyle group What they forget, or have never realised, is that the whole system, starting with ARPANET, was created by the military services – a branch of which is the military intelligence service. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpanet
July 11, 200521 yr Author ...earth to Thomas <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was going to write about when do you think a respectable security firm should hold an exercise on a terrorist attack? In the middle of the night when, if they are lucky, there are two drunks and a sleepy dog on the trains? But judging by your attempt at wit - you clearly wouldn't understand. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not wit, just bemused at your statement, you clearly do not undertsand the rational to the post What they forget, or have never realised, is that the whole system, starting with ARPANET, was created by the military services – a branch of which is the military intelligence service.It is naivety of an extreme simplistic nature to assume the intelligence services are not aware of the exact location of every website, their owners and administrators long before some smartass computer freak uses his whois or traceit or any other net detection software freely available from the simplest of ftp sites. thats the point of the thread Tom, the military is behind it all and someone "within" owns the website hello McFly! Edited July 11, 200521 yr by Tornado
July 11, 200521 yr Author To add fuel to your fire tornado,the company that will be providing the USD500 million bomb scanners for the london underground is Quinetiq which is under the umbrella of the private equity company the carlyle group What they forget, or have never realised, is that the whole system, starting with ARPANET, was created by the military services – a branch of which is the military intelligence service. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpanet <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cheers Stu - interesting!
July 11, 200521 yr Author It makes me laugh the things you guys write. what did you think of the radio transcript?
July 11, 200521 yr Author ...earth to Thomas <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was going to write about when do you think a respectable security firm should hold an exercise on a terrorist attack? In the middle of the night when, if they are lucky, there are two drunks and a sleepy dog on the trains? But judging by your attempt at wit - you clearly wouldn't understand. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You got that right, Thomas. That delusional Oziee does not and cannot comprehend... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im delusional? I just posted something I thought was worth a read, as it was an interview on the radio by an ex Scotland Yard official... Lets see here Boon Mee's delusional dribble or a transcipt from a radio interview Boon Mee, your country are the terrorists, even if no involvement in this bombing. Deal with it, read about it and stop brushing it under the carpet. Boon - its Aussie or Ozzie by the way Edited July 11, 200521 yr by Tornado
July 11, 200521 yr It makes me laugh the things you guys write. what did you think of the radio transcript? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is there to laugh about in what I wrote about ARPANET? Is it untrue what I said? How old are you Tornado? Have you ever been in the military? Or in a war? Have you ever had to physically defend yourself or your comrades or your country? What is your authority for your opinions? You strike me as someone who has made up his mind on a complex issue on the basis of his emotions or some ill-defined morality (or is it fashion?) - without knowledge or argument, and then spends his time cutting and pasting, from various sources, articles that appear to support this point of view. You may do this - Thaivisa is an open forum - albeit, usually demanding postings should have relevance to Thailand. But at the same time you must remember there are members who are, or have been in service for their country; there are members employed in their countries diplomatic services; there are members who have first hand knowledge of matters lightly discussed in these threads and there are those, albeit a minority, who may be somewhat irritated that their, and their comrades’, personal sacrifices are so lightly dismissed in such an ill-informed way. Play your games if you wish, but use some real argument, respecting that, for some, these matters are not a game.
July 11, 200521 yr Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims March in London to Denounce Terrorist Attacks Just kidding
July 11, 200521 yr Author It makes me laugh the things you guys write. what did you think of the radio transcript? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is there to laugh about in what I wrote about ARPANET? Is it untrue what I said? How old are you Tornado? Have you ever been in the military? Or in a war? Have you ever had to physically defend yourself or your comrades or your country? What is your authority for your opinions? You strike me as someone who has made up his mind on a complex issue on the basis of his emotions or some ill-defined morality (or is it fashion?) - without knowledge or argument, and then spends his time cutting and pasting, from various sources, articles that appear to support this point of view. You may do this - Thaivisa is an open forum - albeit, usually demanding postings should have relevance to Thailand. But at the same time you must remember there are members who are, or have been in service for their country; there are members employed in their countries diplomatic services; there are members who have first hand knowledge of matters lightly discussed in these threads and there are those, albeit a minority, who may be somewhat irritated that their, and their comrades’, personal sacrifices are so lightly dismissed in such an ill-informed way. Play your games if you wish, but use some real argument, respecting that, for some, these matters are not a game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dont patronise me wingnut, crawl back under your rock. You didnt even get the gist of the post
July 11, 200521 yr It makes me laugh the things you guys write. what did you think of the radio transcript? What is there to laugh about in what I wrote about ARPANET? Is it untrue what I said? How old are you Tornado? Have you ever been in the military? Or in a war? Have you ever had to physically defend yourself or your comrades or your country? What is your authority for your opinions? You strike me as someone who has made up his mind on a complex issue on the basis of his emotions or some ill-defined morality (or is it fashion?) - without knowledge or argument, and then spends his time cutting and pasting, from various sources, articles that appear to support this point of view. You may do this - Thaivisa is an open forum - albeit, usually demanding postings should have relevance to Thailand. But at the same time you must remember there are members who are, or have been in service for their country; there are members employed in their countries diplomatic services; there are members who have first hand knowledge of matters lightly discussed in these threads and there are those, albeit a minority, who may be somewhat irritated that their, and their comrades’, personal sacrifices are so lightly dismissed in such an ill-informed way. Play your games if you wish, but use some real argument, respecting that, for some, these matters are not a game. You didnt even get the gist of the post Which was...?
July 11, 200521 yr It makes me laugh the things you guys write. what did you think of the radio transcript? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is there to laugh about in what I wrote about ARPANET? Is it untrue what I said? How old are you Tornado? Have you ever been in the military? Or in a war? Have you ever had to physically defend yourself or your comrades or your country? What is your authority for your opinions? You strike me as someone who has made up his mind on a complex issue on the basis of his emotions or some ill-defined morality (or is it fashion?) - without knowledge or argument, and then spends his time cutting and pasting, from various sources, articles that appear to support this point of view. You may do this - Thaivisa is an open forum - albeit, usually demanding postings should have relevance to Thailand. But at the same time you must remember there are members who are, or have been in service for their country; there are members employed in their countries diplomatic services; there are members who have first hand knowledge of matters lightly discussed in these threads and there are those, albeit a minority, who may be somewhat irritated that their, and their comrades’, personal sacrifices are so lightly dismissed in such an ill-informed way. Play your games if you wish, but use some real argument, respecting that, for some, these matters are not a game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dont patronise me wingnut, crawl back under your rock. You didnt even get the gist of the post <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see your arguments are improving. Could you answer any of the questions - or do you need multiple choice?
July 11, 200521 yr dont keep hanging around in here Boon, Im not biting <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Perhaps Mr. Merton will? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No bait - no bite.
July 11, 200521 yr How's this for some 'bite' British Police Were Forced to Stop Tube Patrols Six months ago, British Metropolitan police and Immigration officers were performing random checks on Tube passengers—but were forced to stop: Immigration checks on Tube passengers banned. (Hat tip: Rayra.) Random immigration checks on Tube passengers have been banned by Underground chiefs after they were exposed by the Evening Standard. We revealed how dozens of police and immigration officers at a time swooped on stations and asked foreign-sounding commuters to justify their presence in Britain. And after we uncovered the practice last summer, unhappy Tube chiefs have told the Home Office and police that their officers will no longer be allowed to carry out the raids. The sides are still in talks but already the number of operations has been cut and the Immigration Service has agreed to curb the way its officers work. Crucially, under the new rules only people suspected of being faredodgers, drug-dealers or other lawbreakers may be quizzed on their immigration status. Passengers who follow the rules cannot be questioned. Real good "Homeland Security" eh? Link
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