Rimmer Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 2 Bombs found in downtown Pattaya CHON BURI, 7 September 2010 (NNT) – Two grenades wrapped in newspapers were found lying on a street in Chon Buri’s Pattaya City this morning. Police suspected they might have been either accidentally dropped by instigators or intentionally placed to create a situation. The two grenades were found at the mouth of Soi Sukhumvit-Pattaya 27 in Chon Buri’s Bang Lamung District, 500 meters from the local police station. The first was similar to M26 ball grenade while the other was a 4-inch long cylindrical bomb. No one has seen any suspect who might be the owner of the explosives. Police reckoned that the ill-intentioned might have dropped the grenades on their way to the attack site and afraid of picking them up, or purposely leaving them to be discovered to create a situation. Bomb squad has already attended the scene and recovered the highly destructive explosives. The police will check the closed-circuit cameras in the area to track down the suspect. -- NNT 2010-09-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted September 6, 2010 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) How many people still think the T (ism) - word is too extreme to describe the red shirts. Yes, the red shirts who started their public activities again in Chonburi province again. Bombs a coincidence. I think not. Edited September 6, 2010 by Jingthing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 How many people still think the T (ism) - word is too extreme to describe the red shirts. Yes, the red shirts who started their public activities again in Chonburi province again. Bombs a coincidence. I think not. I guess they need they guy with his yellow Hummer again. Every country should have its own RAMBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yermanee Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 How many people still think the T (ism) - word is too extreme to describe the red shirts. Yes, the red shirts who started their public activities again in Chonburi province again. Bombs a coincidence. I think not. I guess they need they guy with his yellow Hummer again. Every country should have its own RAMBO. Does Glitterman count? yermanee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 No coincidence. And there is no state of emergency, so it doesn't benefit the gov. there. Stated before the usual suspects start blaming others. There is a violent lunatic fringe in the R.S. and if they don't deal with it, they will all be rightly branded terrorists. Sad because most are not, just some what deluded. Even their allies the PTP are backing off, because they got their political hat handed to them, and actually blamed the red shirts for it, after a day or two of reflecion. What political legitimacy the R.S. may have had is effectively in tatters. but they don't seem to know this yet. Least of all that violent lunatic fringe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Pointing fingers at this point in time is just silly when all one has to base an assumption on is the fact (?) that two grenades have been found. And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjay Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Another "nail" is the tourism coffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Pointing fingers at this point in time is just silly when all one has to base an assumption on is the fact (?) that two grenades have been found. And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Who do you reckon it was then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) No coincidence. And there is no state of emergency, so it doesn't benefit the gov. there. Stated before the usual suspects start blaming others. There is a violent lunatic fringe in the R.S. and if they don't deal with it, they will all be rightly branded terrorists. Sad because most are not, just some what deluded. Even their allies the PTP are backing off, because they got their political hat handed to them, and actually blamed the red shirts for it, after a day or two of reflecion. What political legitimacy the R.S. may have had is effectively in tatters. but they don't seem to know this yet. Least of all that violent lunatic fringe. Additional information on the various identified Red Bombers, Red Rioters, and Red Arsonists is at this updated-within-the-hour thread: Thailand's Fragile Peace Threatened, Bomb Attack Edited September 6, 2010 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangBuddha Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Pointing fingers at this point in time is just silly when all one has to base an assumption on is the fact (?) that two grenades have been found. And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Who do you reckon it was then? Grenades/explosives have been found and used all around Thailand/Pattaya for years [decades and way before any of the coloured shirts stuff?] for various purposes (including settling business disputes). Without further information, I think you are jumping to conclusions. However, I do agree that if there were to be any terrorist acts in Pattaya...tourism would die overnite (and just before the start of high-season and many expats would start to seriously consider their safety and future in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Pointing fingers at this point in time is just silly when all one has to base an assumption on is the fact (?) that two grenades have been found. And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Who do you reckon it was then? I don't know - and neither do you. That's my point. Could it be red shirts? Sure. Could it be yellow shirts trying to discredit red shirts? Sure. Could the grenades have fallen off a army/navy/air force lorry? Sure. Could the grenades have belonged to criminal elements who threw the grenades away on the false assumption that they were being followed by police? Sure. Could there be another explanation? Very sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 There is a violent lunatic fringe in the R.S. Not just the fringe, but also rotten to the core: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Pointing fingers at this point in time is just silly when all one has to base an assumption on is the fact (?) that two grenades have been found. And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Who do you reckon it was then? I don't know - and neither do you. That's my point. Could it be red shirts? Sure. Could it be yellow shirts trying to discredit red shirts? Sure. Could the grenades have fallen off a army/navy/air force lorry? Sure. Could the grenades have belonged to criminal elements who threw the grenades away on the false assumption that they were being followed by police? Sure. Could there be another explanation? Very sure. True. I don't know. This is a forum where SPECULATION and reasonable assumptions are fair game.Next ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Another "nail" is the tourism coffin Its solid metal at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Pointing fingers at this point in time is just silly when all one has to base an assumption on is the fact (?) that two grenades have been found. And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Who do you reckon it was then? I don't know - and neither do you. That's my point. Could it be red shirts? Sure. Could it be yellow shirts trying to discredit red shirts? Sure. Could the grenades have fallen off a army/navy/air force lorry? Sure. Could the grenades have belonged to criminal elements who threw the grenades away on the false assumption that they were being followed by police? Sure. Could there be another explanation? Very sure. True. I don't know. This is a forum where SPECULATION and reasonable assumptions are fair game.Next ... SPECULATION and reasonable assumptions or WILD GUESSES and serious allegations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkev1888 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think this location can really be described as "Downtown Pattaya" Is North of Naklua and on the East side of Sukhumvit. Outskirts of Pattaya would be a better description. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think this location can really be described as "Downtown Pattaya" Is North of Naklua and on the East side of Sukhumvit. Outskirts of Pattaya would be a better description. Since we're at it, also change "bombs" in the headline to "grenades". Just wrapped in newspapers they were still 'unprocessed' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy221 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I dont know if i should start worrying now! Due to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for 5 weeks, starting at the end of October, with my wife and our newborn son. After reading all the stories coming out recently and just watching the video above i am seriously considering my options as i do not want to endangermy wife or child. Should i go or cancel, big decision. OR do i cancell the Pattaya part and go elsewhere, not Phuket or Phi Phi due to the oil spillage...oh deer. Such a shame, such a wonderfull country and they are dividing themselves and are going to drive away one of their biggest economic industries, tourism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) I dont know if i should start worrying now! Due to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for 5 weeks, starting at the end of October, with my wife and our newborn son. After reading all the stories coming out recently and just watching the video above i am seriously considering my options as i do not want to endangermy wife or child. Should i go or cancel, big decision. OR do i cancell the Pattaya part and go elsewhere, not Phuket or Phi Phi due to the oil spillage...oh deer. Such a shame, such a wonderfull country and they are dividing themselves and are going to drive away one of their biggest economic industries, tourism. Peace and serenity can still be found at Koh Samet or Koh Chang. Not too far and ideal for a young family. *edit to add the caveat: Granted it IS harder to find at those locations than before, it IS still possible. Edited September 6, 2010 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 "Could the grenades have fallen off a army/navy/air force lorry? Sure." Now THAT is a wild guess! We need more vital information. Which newspaper was used for wrapping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I dont know if i should start worrying now! Due to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for 5 weeks, starting at the end of October, with my wife and our newborn son. After reading all the stories coming out recently and just watching the video above i am seriously considering my options as i do not want to endangermy wife or child. Should i go or cancel, big decision. OR do i cancell the Pattaya part and go elsewhere, not Phuket or Phi Phi due to the oil spillage...oh deer. Such a shame, such a wonderfull country and they are dividing themselves and are going to drive away one of their biggest economic industries, tourism. Peace and serenity can still be found at Koh Samet or Koh Chang. Not too far and ideal for a young family. *edit to add the caveat: Granted it IS harder to find at those locations than before, it IS still possible. The advise is (of course) ignoring the fact that a few days ago PT's Surapong said Coup in Oct for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 SPECULATION and reasonable assumptions or WILD GUESSES and serious allegations? This ain't a court of law. It's an internet forum. The coincidence of the now allowed red demos and the weapons is just too suspicious to not comment about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 SPECULATION and reasonable assumptions or WILD GUESSES and serious allegations? This ain't a court of law. It's an internet forum. The coincidence of the now allowed red demos and the weapons is just too suspicious to not comment about. I agree, we should comment on and discuss this situation. This could be the start of a development I have dreaded for quite some time now, and I sure I am not alone in having these worries. But declaring without a doubt that the reds are behind it is just wrong. Nuff said! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 If the reds didnt want to be linked with every case of explosives, violence and weaponry they shouldnt have used violence, explosives and weaponry in the first place and shouldnt have stuck with leaders who openly advocated such. The die is now cast and by people's earleir actions current assumptions are made. It will take a long time to change such suspicions and such an image Maybe the Pattaya explosives are nothing to do with them but suspicions that they are are goign to naturally follow and they shouldnt be surprised at this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceano Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) I dont know if i should start worrying now! Due to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for 5 weeks, starting at the end of October, with my wife and our newborn son. After reading all the stories coming out recently and just watching the video above i am seriously considering my options as i do not want to endangermy wife or child. Should i go or cancel, big decision. OR do i cancell the Pattaya part and go elsewhere, not Phuket or Phi Phi due to the oil spillage...oh deer. Such a shame, such a wonderfull country and they are dividing themselves and are going to drive away one of their biggest economic industries, tourism. Bangkok is empty, only in the south there are tourist, south is safe) i mean island and touristic spot. No oil spill in Phuket that is wrong, the ship dont loose oil. Ciaooo PS granates, bomb, gun, violent people, explosion, knife, blackmail, coup ecc ecc are not new in Thailand why all the time point your finger to the reds people? or yellows people? or all coulor people? Edited September 6, 2010 by oceano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Actually, I am amazed that the Red Shirts and/or Southern Muslim separatists took this long to creat an "incident" in Pattaya. Same for Phuket and other areas where tourists frequent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acutus Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I dont know if i should start worrying now! Due to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for 5 weeks, starting at the end of October, with my wife and our newborn son. After reading all the stories coming out recently and just watching the video above i am seriously considering my options as i do not want to endangermy wife or child. Should i go or cancel, big decision. OR do i cancell the Pattaya part and go elsewhere, not Phuket or Phi Phi due to the oil spillage...oh deer. Such a shame, such a wonderfull country and they are dividing themselves and are going to drive away one of their biggest economic industries, tourism. Probability of more troubles in Thailand is there so it is possibly safer to take your family holiday somewhere else. Having yourself or your loved ones become statistics in Thailand is not a desirable option. Have a good holiday :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncletom Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 And NO, I'm neither a red shirt or a yellow shirt sympathizer. Who do you reckon it was then? I don't know - and neither do you. That's my point. 1.)*** Could it be red shirts? Sure. 2.)*** Could it be yellow shirts trying to discredit red shirts? Sure. 3.)*** Could the grenades have fallen off a army/navy/air force lorry? Sure. 4.)*** Could the grenades have belonged to criminal elements who threw the grenades away on the false assumption that they were being followed by police? Sure. 5.)***Could there be another explanation? Very sure. 6.) All is not done, on/from either end!for someone trying to: Placing the blame; is the tough part/one. uncletom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 No coincidence. And there is no state of emergency, so it doesn't benefit the gov. there. Stated before the usual suspects start blaming others. There is a violent lunatic fringe in the R.S. and if they don't deal with it, they will all be rightly branded terrorists. Sad because most are not, just some what deluded. Even their allies the PTP are backing off, because they got their political hat handed to them, and actually blamed the red shirts for it, after a day or two of reflecion. What political legitimacy the R.S. may have had is effectively in tatters. but they don't seem to know this yet. Least of all that violent lunatic fringe. Good response - totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkoid66 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) I dont know if i should start worrying now! Due to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for 5 weeks, starting at the end of October, with my wife and our newborn son. After reading all the stories coming out recently and just watching the video above i am seriously considering my options as i do not want to endangermy wife or child. Should i go or cancel, big decision. OR do i cancell the Pattaya part and go elsewhere, not Phuket or Phi Phi due to the oil spillage...oh deer. Such a shame, such a wonderfull country and they are dividing themselves and are going to drive away one of their biggest economic industries, tourism. Probability of more troubles in Thailand is there so it is possibly safer to take your family holiday somewhere else. Having yourself or your loved ones become statistics in Thailand is not a desirable option. Have a good holiday :jap: A deadly explosion on Walking Street would make the Bath and Thai stocks falling Maybe these grenades were thrown there by an expat who is upset by the strong Bath. Edited September 6, 2010 by nikkoid66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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