Possible For A Swedish Girl To Work As A Haridresser In Thailand?

[IIIII]

My swedish fiance is an awsome hairdresser and she would like to work in Thailand as a hairdresser.

Is this somehow possible? If there are rules that say she can not, maybe there are ways to go around it? For instance, she could also teach thai people to cut or something similar. We can start a company, we can also ask a thaiperson to start a company and hire her, whatever it takes. You have any suggestions how to best solve this issue? Is it even possible?

Thanks!

[balo]

No its not possible.

You can buy a business with Thais doing the work but as a foreigner you're not allowed to work.

[IIIII]

No its not possible.

You can buy a business with Thais doing the work but as a foreigner you're not allowed to work.

That sucks! How come swedish chefs can work in Thailand? Cause they make food that thais dont know about or what?

[gotlost]

No use arguing. Hair dressers are on the Thai only list of work permits.

[IIIII]

No use arguing. Hair dressers are on the Thai only list of work permits.

I was not arguing, was just asking an honest question. I have heard that expats are allowed to work with stuff that no thai can do, and swedish food for an example may fit into that category.

Thanks anyway.

Edited September 12, 2010 by IIIII

[samran]

speak to the sponsor of this forum, sunbelt. There is always a way around the list.

In BKK there are a number of expat hairdressers who basically service the expat wives sector. All do it openly, so there is likely a legal way of doing it.

A good hairdresser, who can style and colour a western womens hair is worth their weight in gold and can command good money.

[IIIII]

speak to the sponsor of this forum, sunbelt. There is always a way around the list.

In BKK there are a number of expat hairdressers who basically service the expat wives sector. All do it openly, so there is likely a legal way of doing it.

A good hairdresser, who can style and colour a western womens hair is worth their weight in gold and can command good money.

Yea, this is very much true, there are several expats already on a waitinglist for her, and exactly what you write is the reason. The thai hairdressers dont know how to work with expat hair.

I will try to contact sunbelt, thanks!

[sevenhills]

There's a Farang hairdresser here on Samui, even advertises in the Samui express.

So there are ways around it I guess.

Foreign Chefs don't have a problem here (with work permit supplied by their employer) as they are specialists in their particular field, which Thai's cannot do.

Good luck.

[gotlost]

Wish you well OP but hear is the list just a short ways down. Hair dresser, hair cutting and beautician are on the list of Thais only.

http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/expats/11936-restricted-jobs-list.html

[richieudon]

Wish you well OP but hear is the list just a short ways down. Hair dresser, hair cutting and beautician are on the list of Thais only.

http://www.phuket-in...-jobs-list.html

A little off topic but I'm gutted to find "manual cigarette roller" on the list....

Back to the drawing board on jobs to do for me....

[gotlost]

Wish you well OP but hear is the list just a short ways down. Hair dresser, hair cutting and beautician are on the list of Thais only.

http://www.phuket-in...-jobs-list.html

A little off topic but I'm gutted to find "manual cigarette roller" on the list....

Back to the drawing board on jobs to do for me....

Don't BOGART THAT JOINT MY FRIEND.....

[thailandbluegrass]

speak to the sponsor of this forum, sunbelt. There is always a way around the list.

In BKK there are a number of expat hairdressers who basically service the expat wives sector. All do it openly, so there is likely a legal way of doing it.

A good hairdresser, who can style and colour a western womens hair is worth their weight in gold and can command good money.

Yea, this is very much true, there are several expats already on a waitinglist for her, and exactly what you write is the reason. The thai hairdressers dont know how to work with expat hair.

I will try to contact sunbelt, thanks!

Gotlost is right. A swede can cook swede food etc but a hairstylist that cannot do Thai hair isa joke.

What's the difference between Thai hair and farang hair? You think Thai hair is made out of buffalo fields and farang hair is made from gold?

And it seems that "Gotlost" is the only one who knows what he is talking about here. I don't care if there is a farang hairstylist on Samui or not. They are doing it ILEGALLY.

I once saw a farang busking with his guitar and a bunch of Thaui's beet the living crap out of him. Many farangs have been beeten for taking work away from a Thai.

If farang woman don't like the way a Thai does there hair then they better go back to where they came from.

[ihunnieibee]

If farang woman don't like the way a Thai does there hair then they better go back to where they came from.

Ew, are u serious?? Who says that?? What's wrong with you?

[kartman]

I think the answer is for her to get a WP as a Swedish chef then open a salon with a cooker in it , if Immigration comes round just put the customers head in it.

[IIIII]

speak to the sponsor of this forum, sunbelt. There is always a way around the list.

In BKK there are a number of expat hairdressers who basically service the expat wives sector. All do it openly, so there is likely a legal way of doing it.

A good hairdresser, who can style and colour a western womens hair is worth their weight in gold and can command good money.

Yea, this is very much true, there are several expats already on a waitinglist for her, and exactly what you write is the reason. The thai hairdressers dont know how to work with expat hair.

I will try to contact sunbelt, thanks!

Gotlost is right. A swede can cook swede food etc but a hairstylist that cannot do Thai hair isa joke.

What's the difference between Thai hair and farang hair? You think Thai hair is made out of buffalo fields and farang hair is made from gold?

And it seems that "Gotlost" is the only one who knows what he is talking about here. I don't care if there is a farang hairstylist on Samui or not. They are doing it ILEGALLY.

I once saw a farang busking with his guitar and a bunch of Thaui's beet the living crap out of him. Many farangs have been beeten for taking work away from a Thai.

If farang woman don't like the way a Thai does there hair then they better go back to where they came from.

I have never said that because thai hairdressers have difficult to work with expat hair it is legal to work as a hairdresser for an expat in Thailand. I was telling you that there is a big market for an expat hairdresser in Thailand. And therefore I am ASKING for advice.

What I wrote tho, is that very many expats are not happy with the thai hairdressers and would therefore love to have an expat hairdresser do there hair. There IS a big difference between thai hair and expat hair, this is shown mostly when they colour the hair. Thai people are not used to colour western hair and therefore they dont know what colours to use etc. Dont open your mouth in an arrogant way about stuff you dont have any knowledge about, you just make a fool out of yourselfe, like you just did.

Edited September 13, 2010 by Rooo
Flame removed. Rooo.

[peanut]

If I remember correctly the Krabi area (and probably a few others) has been colonized by Swedes... there is even a Swedish school and I met Swedes doing all kinds of jobs. So I'm sure there would be a market for it.

Don't know about legal / illegal but I'm sure a good lawyer would find a way around it... they could just call her "consultant" instead of hairdresser...

[Tropicalevo]

lllll - do not take it too seriously. Some people get their entertainment on forums like this one.

There are usually ways to do things in Thailand that just require some thinking outside of the box. Consultancy, training a Thai trainee etc

Your question was meant to be serious, but please do not slap us all down for bringing some humour into it. My particular favourite was the one about a cooker in the salon!

[gotlost]

It has been shown to the OP that what he is asking for is against the laws of Thailand and he is seeking a way around it. The OP does not have to convince us about his GF's ability to do farang hair he has to convince the Thai authorities that they are wrong. So if the the OP can hire a legal firm to get his GF a work permit as a beautician which requires a new visa, more power to him. At the same time if she goes to work without a work permit and gets busted, fined, jail and deported don't be coming to us crying BUT IT WASN'T FAIR, IT SUCKS. These are their laws.

[wasabi]

For the vast majority of us Thailand is a great place to spend money but not make it. So join the club son.

[jazzbo]

To me it would be all about the case that the actual employer makes to the local Min. of Labour office ... If the employer is say a major hotel down in the South with a lot of Scandanavian resort customers, I would not think it impossible that the employer could make such a case for a legitimate work permit under 'special circumstances'.

[samran]

IIIII

you know what to do.

Ignore the majority of posters. Many TV members have a passionate hate for western females, and their bias comes through in threads like this.

In my honest opinion, what you are proposing is one of the many ways a smart expat can really cash in when in Thailand. Go for it and don't look back.

[tonititan]

What's the difference between Thai hair and farang hair? You think Thai hair is made out of buffalo fields and farang hair is made from gold?

There's a big difference. Almost all Thai hair is black, so as another poster mentioned, most Thai hair stylist don't know how to color blonde, light brown, or red hair. I have seen the proof in several foreign women who come home from the salon with orange or green hair! Also, Thai hair is often straight and shiny. Many foreigners have curly hair, frizzy hair, very thick hair, or very thin hair that is different than Thai hair. If you knew anything about hair styling, you would know that the techniques used for cutting thick/curly hair are different than the techniques used for cutting straight hair.

[muddyhoop]

What's the difference between Thai hair and farang hair? You think Thai hair is made out of buffalo fields and farang hair is made from gold?

There's a big difference. Almost all Thai hair is black, so as another poster mentioned, most Thai hair stylist don't know how to color blonde, light brown, or red hair. I have seen the proof in several foreign women who come home from the salon with orange or green hair! Also, Thai hair is often straight and shiny. Many foreigners have curly hair, frizzy hair, very thick hair, or very thin hair that is different than Thai hair. If you knew anything about hair styling, you would know that the techniques used for cutting thick/curly hair are different than the techniques used for cutting straight hair.

I opened a salon years back and my idea was also to employ a UK stylist, my lawyer said no way!

Yes there is a big difference in asian hair, the thickness being the most important. So when colouring you have to take this into account and even use western products. Hair extensions was a major hassle and the Thais mixing the real hair with fake hair didn't help!!!

You could make a lot of money selling hair to the west but because of the reasons above it is just too difficult.

[jazzbo]

I opened a salon years back and my idea was also to employ a UK stylist, my lawyer said no way!

There is also a big difference between you as an employer and a 400 room resort hotel with maybe already hundreds of Thai employees.

[IIIII]

For you guys that wishes me the best I would like to say thanks!

Would be interesting to know what the mentioned expat hairdressers in BKK and Samui has done to make it happen. I have sent the sponsor to this forum a message as suggested.

[davelec]

No its not possible.

You can buy a business with Thais doing the work but as a foreigner you're not allowed to work.

Really? how come there is a well known singer in Thailand from Sweden who earns his living by singing and appearing in TV commercials then.

[Rama]

If you want to be 100% legit, you would start company and hire 4 thai workers. One of the Thai workers must have a certificate from one of the recognized hair dressing schools in order for a business to operate a beauty saloon. Your swedish friend can get a work permit and be an "international consultant" "advising" the thai workers and showing them the european styles.

[jazzbo]

The Swedish fiance hair-stylist can call herself an "international consultant" or 'Cleopatra of the Nile' -- makes no difference: It is all about on what basis the the local Labor Ministry Office is willing to issue a Work Permit to be 'legit'.

[bigwilly]

lllll.

Can she dance? there are plenty of European women WORKING in front of every ones eyes in the glass box above Moulin Rouge Walking Street Pattaya, they also have lots of lovely European lady'shanding out promo material. Maybe she can multi task a bit. BW.

[thailandbluegrass]

Seems like a lot of hastle to be a hairdresser in LOS. Also doesn't matter what us farangs do here, we are only allowed to make so much money via the "Thai law of the people"

What this means is that if Thai's see us making to much money in the LOS you could be in Physical trouble. Just look at the past with the Realtors in Phuket etc.

Better she takes a TEFL course and teaches English like everyone else. It's a great fantasy and a good question to the OP however if you want to be legal here as Getlost says.........