Why Don'T You Leave ?

[sillyman99]

There are so many posters here who are obviously unhappy living in Thailand, I have to ask the question,

Why do you stay in Thailand if your'e so unhappy ?

You left your country of birth, your own people, your own culture and language because you thought Thailand would offer you more.

So, when it doesn't, why do you stay and be unhappy ?

You were unhappy in your own home countries so you left, so what stops you leaving Thailand ?

[473geo]

Nothing.........................I've left Thailand over 20 times.........always happy to return.

[onnut]

I think I have lost myself.

Edited September 17, 2010 by onnut

[MAJIC]

IMHO I don't think that its a question of being unhappy here for the majority of Ex Pats,but some of the bad things that happen to them, and annoy them,and thus create a need to discuss it on this Forum.

They also discuss the bad things concerning their own countries,so why cant they discuss Thailand on a Ex Pat forum,without the same old boring cliche......... "why don't you leave"go home?

Or would you prefer them to give a completely false account of life in Thailand?

Edited September 17, 2010 by MAJIC

[sillyman99]

have you nothing better to do? nearly 200 posts in less than a week!

you should get out more often. and your living up to your name!

Please explain.

Do you mean 200 posts in a year ?

In that case your post rate will be higher than mine, so maybe it's you that has to get out more often.

It's horrible to make a fool of yourself ain't it ?

And if you really have a major problem, PM me, I'm in Pattaya, the same as I have been since 1990, you can buy me a beer in Soi 6.

Edited September 17, 2010 by sillyman99

[onnut]

have you nothing better to do? nearly 200 posts in less than a week!

you should get out more often. and your living up to your name!

Please explain.

Do you mean 200 posts in a year ?

In that case your post rate will be higher than mine, so maybe it's you that has to get out more often.

And if you really have a major problem, PM me, I'm in Pattaya, the same as I have been since 1990, you can buy me a beer in Soi 6.

sorry mate, I thought you were another poster and I blurted it out without looking properly.

now who is the silly man?

[sillyman99]

sorry mate, I thought you were another poster and I blurted it out without looking properly.

now who is the silly man?

You.

Anyway, will this make you leave Thailand ?

I'm not Thai, I'm a Farang, yet you confront me, will that make you leave Thailand ?

You can't own land, you'll never be a citizen, you'll have to report every 90 days at the least to the Immigration Office even if you have a yearly Visa.

The Thais can't drive as well as you, they don't know the things you know, yet you always knew that didn't you, so you married a Thai person and bought her a car ....................................

Edited September 17, 2010 by sillyman99

[jazzbo]

There are so many posters here who are obviously unhappy living in Thailand ... If here means the 'General Topics' Forum that is why I choose to spend the bulk of my time -- except for the occasional drive-by -- elsewhere on ThaiVisa ... Kudos nonetheless to the 'Forum led by' guys.

Edited September 17, 2010 by jazzbo

[IMA_FARANG]

I don't know how many times I hear this stuff.

I'm happy in Thailand...why should I leave here?

You have to understand that their is a certain type of person who is not happy unless they have something to complain about. It's just their nature, they aren't happy unless they can bitch about something.

This forum is simply their venue to complain.

The h_ll with them.

[maccaroni man]

i dont know which is worse reading the complaints or the "go home" threads both seem mindless

[longstebe]

A little moan now an again doesn't hurt, especially if we all can learn from it. Sometimes it makes me laugh sometimes I sympathize with them.

The people who constantly complain just get laughed at. In one ear out the other.

[onnut]

sorry mate, I thought you were another poster and I blurted it out without looking properly.

now who is the silly man?

You.

Anyway, will this make you leave Thailand ?

I'm not Thai, I'm a Farang, yet you confront me, will that make you leave Thailand ?

You can't own land, you'll never be a citizen, you'll have to report every 90 days at the least to the Immigration Office even if you have a yearly Visa.

The Thais can't drive as well as you, they don't know the things you know, yet you always knew that didn't you, so you married a Thai person and bought her a car ....................................

The land bit does not bother me, its in my wifes name. and why shouldnt it be. I mean I married her because I love and trust her. and ayway, if it did go tits up, so what, its for my son at the end of the day. so that does not make me want to leave!

If I had a problem with a Thai or a Farang, why leave coz of that. I have had bigger problems before elsewhere!

Visas, again, thats normal crap to deal with, do it right and then one does not have a problem!

Now, driving on the other hand, that could send me over the top and make me leave!!! :D

[gburns57au]

You have to understand that their is a certain type of person who is not happy unless they have something to complain about. It's just their nature, they aren't happy unless they can bitch about something.

This forum is simply their venue to complain.

They are called English

[onnut]

I always found the complaining sort were American.

[Fatdog]

I think most of the people who complain are men.

Brittish or American, everybody has something to complain about at some time.

Some complain more than others, but that is the way of the world.

FD

[somtampet]

have you nothing better to do? nearly 200 posts in less than a week!

you should get out more often. and your living up to your name!

Please explain.

Do you mean 200 posts in a year ?

In that case your post rate will be higher than mine, so maybe it's you that has to get out more often.

It's horrible to make a fool of yourself ain't it ?

And if you really have a major problem, PM me, I'm in Pattaya, the same as I have been since 1990, you can buy me a beer in Soi 6.

Ay up ONENUT

I would be up for a tour of soi 6 with sillyman,as i havent been for years lol.Get your ass down to Pattaya,its not far from u.

[onnut]

have you nothing better to do? nearly 200 posts in less than a week!

you should get out more often. and your living up to your name!

Please explain.

Do you mean 200 posts in a year ?

In that case your post rate will be higher than mine, so maybe it's you that has to get out more often.

It's horrible to make a fool of yourself ain't it ?

And if you really have a major problem, PM me, I'm in Pattaya, the same as I have been since 1990, you can buy me a beer in Soi 6.

Ay up ONENUT

I would be up for a tour of soi 6 with sillyman,as i havent been for years lol.Get your ass down to Pattaya,its not far from u.

ok. give me a few weeks to sort a trip out. I need a good night out. and I will PM you both to arrange a date

[tartempion]

10 more days and I will be out of here (Thailand I mean)

I hope this important news will satisfy you in full :jap:

[DP25]

There are so many posters here who are obviously unhappy living in Thailand, I have to ask the question,

Why do you stay in Thailand if your'e so unhappy ?

I think most of the I hate Thailand brigade don't actually live in Thailand, and haven't spent that much time here. Ripped off by a bargirl and now obsessed with the place.

[Kilgore Trout]

IMHO I don't think that its a question of being unhappy here for the majority of Ex Pats,but some of the bad things that happen to them, and annoy them,and thus create a need to discuss it on this Forum.

They also discuss the bad things concerning their own countries,so why cant they discuss Thailand on a Ex Pat forum,without the same old boring cliche......... "why don't you leave"go home?

Or would you prefer them to give a completely false account of life in Thailand?

This is an example of a poster with a brain in his head, the op is a good example of one without

[Fookhaht]

In Alaska, they have what are called "Sourdoughs." = Sour on Alaska, but not enough dough to get out.

Same, same.

[spud1]

I always found the complaining sort were American.

You're right,it's the don't you know I,m American brigade.

[GuestHouse]

I've said this before, but I know some people just don't understand it:

"I've taken careful note, and come to the conclusion that whatever opinion any other expat has or expresses about Thailand has absolutely no impact on my own day in Thailand - I can read someone ranting about their wife, their neighbor, the school system, the police, the laws, corruption, Thai women, Thai men, Thai kids, Thai dogs, Thai cats ...... You name it, you even rant about it - It will have zero impact on my ability to enjoy or not enjoy my own life in Thailand"

I take the view that most of the people who have moved to live here actually care about the place they've chosen to live in, certainly those raising families here (Who might not have an option to leave) have a vested interest in Thailand - And if then if people live here, have invested their life here then I think they are entitled to an opinion and since the forum rules allow them to express their opinion (within the rules) why not let them get it off their chest.

I can't get upset about someone else expressing a negative opinion, or more often than not relating an negative experience - clearly many other's don't either. But there is a group of people, the OP included who do get upset about it, to the point of telling people they don't know and of who's personal life circumstances they have no knowledge to 'Go Home'.

This begs a question.

What is it about the OP, and others like him, that causes them to be so offended by other people's opinions - The OP is not Thai, he can't claim to defend Thailand on the basis of nationalism - So why the urge to defend a country that is not his against the views of people he does not know.

It's curious too that I've never ever heard a Thai person complain about foreigners expressing a negative view of Thailand or discussing a negative experience they've had in Thailand - More often than not Thais will agree with such views - Perhaps because they too genuinely care about the place and want to see improvement.

Yesterday I had lunch with five Thai men, two I've known for many years the others I've only met recently. As I joined them they were discussing the corruption surrounding the G3 Auctions, who's got their snout in the trough and who's clearly taking back handers.

Perhaps the OP would have these people sent out of Thailand too?!

Complaints are never going to go away, certainly not while the causes of the complaints remain. The OP understands that foreigners are complaining and he gets upset by the fact. If he's living in Thailand, and integrating into Thai society, he can't miss the point that Thais are complaining too - far more so.

I'd therefore suggest that the OP, spend less time complaining about the right of others to live where they want and express the views they want and spend a little time in inward reflection about what it is within himself and within his own life's choices that causes him to be so offended.

Most of us live life happily while accepting the right of others to express whatever opinion they wish. The reward of the OP spending some time in inner reflection on 'his own problem' might very well be that he can join the rest of us and chill.

[Heng]

From what I've seen, most are stuck, often with children here as well. They can afford to complain but can't afford to move everyone and set up shop back home.

[Beetlejuice]

sorry mate, I thought you were another poster and I blurted it out without looking properly.

now who is the silly man?

You.

Anyway, will this make you leave Thailand ?

I'm not Thai, I'm a Farang, yet you confront me, will that make you leave Thailand ?

You can't own land, you'll never be a citizen, you'll have to report every 90 days at the least to the Immigration Office even if you have a yearly Visa.

The Thais can't drive as well as you, they don't know the things you know, yet you always knew that didn't you, so you married a Thai person and bought her a car ....................................

GIRLS, GIRLS, PLEASE!

Why take life so seriously? Everyone likes to have a moan and a groan sometimes, it is just a way of letting out some of the stresses of life.

My gripes are that I never seem to have quite enough of the readies to do the things I want to do, I'm not getting my leg over regularly, the girlfriend's family hate my guts, my kids don`t respect me, I smoke and drink too much and I have a bad habit of farting and picking my nose in public places.

A sad tale of woe and suffering, definitely a strong case for pissing off out of Thailand. Perhaps the Philippines would suit me better, nose picking is more acceptable there and a leg over is much cheaper.

Edited September 18, 2010 by Beetlejuice

[geriatrickid]

I don't see too many complaints. Honest I don't. If you were to look at the complaint threads on TV and sorted them out for the same people that are always unhappy and looked at the legit comments, which really are not complaints as much as they are observations, you wouldn't see too many. It's just the usual same 30 or so people that will always be miserable. The roads could be paved with gold and they'd be complaining that it's unfair that it isn't more durable titanium.

20 years in Pattaya?Are you still wearing the same stained singlet as you did when you made your first walk about?

[pitrevie]

I like the remark of Dame Edna, "I was born in Melbourne with a precious gift. Dame Nature stooped over my cot and gave me this gift. It was the ability to laugh at the misfortunes of others."

[ballpoint]

For some I believe it's psychological. They were miserable in their own countries, have come over here and find that they're still miserable. Deep down they're too scared to move elsewhere because they know that they'll still be miserable and will have to look at themselves for the reason, rather than blame where they live. What you get out of life correlates very well with what you put into it.

[tigerfish]

You have to understand that their is a certain type of person who is not happy unless they have something to complain about. It's just their nature, they aren't happy unless they can bitch about something.

This forum is simply their venue to complain.

They are called English

pot calling the kettle black there mate.

ever listened to an aussie staying in london, in the middle of winter ?

<deleted> me, now that is whinging !

[Loz]

IMHO I don't think that its a question of being unhappy here for the majority of Ex Pats,but some of the bad things that happen to them, and annoy them,and thus create a need to discuss it on this Forum.

They also discuss the bad things concerning their own countries,so why cant they discuss Thailand on a Ex Pat forum,without the same old boring cliche......... "why don't you leave"go home?

Or would you prefer them to give a completely false account of life in Thailand?

This is an example of a poster with a brain in his head, the op is a good example of one without

Seconded.

People thrive on experience. Sillyman strikes me as the kind of person who would burn books given half the chance. But in his defence, he's lived in Pattaya for 20 years. That's enough to damage anyone