Bangkok's Chatuchak Market Becomes Non Smoking Zone

[anon467367354]

I can certainly see banning smoking from the indoors section of the market being that it is such fire hazard. The only people I've ever seen smoking in those sections are the shop owners themselves. Smoking should be restricted to outside areas only, or make a smoking section with ashtrays. This is just another way to capitalize on ripping off the tourists, and bad news travels fast. Another double standard in the making, amazing, smiles, hospitality and go home. raff out roud!

[TheBarbarian]

Non mistreating of animals and a ban on the trading of endangered species is in effect for many years. It never changed anything either. But foreigners be aware of the cigarette but police they will only target you!

[bikersiam]

a somking ban should be made on tyhe cars and trucks also

i would sooner have 50 somkers min mt house thjan 1 car engine running think about it how say you

[TCW]

Maybe this scheme will be warmly welcomed by the BIB as another way to "clean up" in more ways than just the air quality?

[F4UCorsair]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

Arrogance is alive and well, it seems!!

[F4UCorsair]

To all smokers.

You enjoy smoking cigarettes with all the carcinogens, tars, chemicals and impurities. A by product of your smoking is that my hair and clothes stink just like you do, and you do that without my consent..

I enjoy a beer. A by product of my enjoyment is urine. Would you have any objection if I pi$$ed over your hair and clothes without your consent??

Have a think about it.

[evanson]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

You selfish bastard. I remember the time when one of your kind was in the crowded, hot market that is JJ, and when my wife walked past she happened to brush past one of your stinking smoker friends, burning not just a hole in her dress, but also her leg. The perp that did this, well all he could do was walk away.

Its not just the extra added unpleasant smell that smoking adds to the mix, it is the danger of someone getting burned, or their clothes being damaged. Please dont let the fact that there are children there too, and guess what, their eyes are somewhat in the line of fire too (pun intended), to receive a cigarette to the eyes or face.

So if any one of you smokers is so callous to believe that you have a right to smoke in such a confined area as JJ, and that you have the right to wave a smoldering pseudo weapon around in such a place, then you had better not run into me!!!!!!!

The smoking ban in JJ should be reinforced with more than a 2000b fine, but for the damages that a smoker causes to another when contact is made with the cigarette itself.

Yeah I get that. But WHY the ban on beer? As another poster pointed out, after having to push your way through throngs of people for a hot couple of hours or so, you want to sit down somewhere (and there're not that many places to sit in JJ), and have a nice cold one. I don't see that anyone would choose JJ or any other market for a party. And why only JJ?

[biker Bob]

To all smokers.

You enjoy smoking cigarettes with all the carcinogens, tars, chemicals and impurities. A by product of your smoking is that my hair and clothes stink just like you do, and you do that without my consent..

I enjoy a beer. A by product of my enjoyment is urine. Would you have any objection if I pi$$ed over your hair and clothes without your consent??

Have a think about it.

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[ozsamurai]

There has always been a ban on smoking within the JJ market, you zealots. There is a designated smoking area, if not several, well away from the main area, and always has been. The issue here is simply a money grab. Will the notification of this be at the entrance? Or will they just stand around like outside Nana and mug tourists? Would there be a warning, or just a few 100 to ease their pockets... If you fools think this has anything to do with smoking or smokers, your nuts! Its entrapment pure and simple.

[EddyB]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

You selfish bastard. I remember the time when one of your kind was in the crowded, hot market that is JJ, and when my wife walked past she happened to brush past one of your stinking smoker friends, burning not just a hole in her dress, but also her leg. The perp that did this, well all he could do was walk away.

Its not just the extra added unpleasant smell that smoking adds to the mix, it is the danger of someone getting burned, or their clothes being damaged. Please dont let the fact that there are children there too, and guess what, their eyes are somewhat in the line of fire too (pun intended), to receive a cigarette to the eyes or face.

So if any one of you smokers is so callous to believe that you have a right to smoke in such a confined area as JJ, and that you have the right to wave a smoldering pseudo weapon around in such a place, then you had better not run into me!!!!!!!

The smoking ban in JJ should be reinforced with more than a 2000b fine, but for the damages that a smoker causes to another when contact is made with the cigarette itself.

having been to JJ market only once, i know that such place should be a first candidate to be made a non-smoking area.

Way to go Thailand!

Edited September 22, 2010 by EddyB

[robertson468]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

You selfish bastard. I remember the time when one of your kind was in the crowded, hot market that is JJ, and when my wife walked past she happened to brush past one of your stinking smoker friends, burning not just a hole in her dress, but also her leg. The perp that did this, well all he could do was walk away.

Its not just the extra added unpleasant smell that smoking adds to the mix, it is the danger of someone getting burned, or their clothes being damaged. Please dont let the fact that there are children there too, and guess what, their eyes are somewhat in the line of fire too (pun intended), to receive a cigarette to the eyes or face.

So if any one of you smokers is so callous to believe that you have a right to smoke in such a confined area as JJ, and that you have the right to wave a smoldering pseudo weapon around in such a place, then you had better not run into me!!!!!!!

The smoking ban in JJ should be reinforced with more than a 2000b fine, but for the damages that a smoker causes to another when contact is made with the cigarette itself.

I agree entirely, but there is not only the danger of being burnt in a crowded place, there is also the inhailiation of the smoke. My Wife died of lung cancer in 2004 (just when we were going to retire and come and live in Thailand) and yesterday I was informed by my Best Friend that his Wife had also died of lung cancer. Neither of these women had smoked during their lifetime, so if I am categorized as a zealot for hating this disgusting habit, I am happy to be a zealot, but look forward to the day when the World wakes up and bans smoking period. A lot less people will suffer indescribable pain through cancerous diseases and their nearest and dearest will not mourn their loss for the rest of their lives. I would encourage these smoking "jobs worths" to think of the damage they cause to others whilst they are selfishly puffing away and killing themselves, which of course they are entitled to do, but why do you have to do it to others?

[Soi Sauce]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

You selfish bastard. I remember the time when one of your kind was in the crowded, hot market that is JJ, and when my wife walked past she happened to brush past one of your stinking smoker friends, burning not just a hole in her dress, but also her leg. The perp that did this, well all he could do was walk away.

Its not just the extra added unpleasant smell that smoking adds to the mix, it is the danger of someone getting burned, or their clothes being damaged. Please dont let the fact that there are children there too, and guess what, their eyes are somewhat in the line of fire too (pun intended), to receive a cigarette to the eyes or face.

So if any one of you smokers is so callous to believe that you have a right to smoke in such a confined area as JJ, and that you have the right to wave a smoldering pseudo weapon around in such a place, then you had better not run into me!!!!!!!

The smoking ban in JJ should be reinforced with more than a 2000b fine, but for the damages that a smoker causes to another when contact is made with the cigarette itself.

Another Nazi who undoubtedly drives but don't care FA about the pollution he's causing that kills ppl. Hope ypuget hit and hurt by one of your own kind then come back and bitch about smokers.

[F4UCorsair]

biker Bob, you'd be saying a lot more than '<deleted>' if I pi$$ed over you, I can assure you.

You managed a monosyllable in reply, but perhaps you could give me a reasonable response why smokers should continue to assault non smokers with their filthy habit.

I have no objection if you want to kill yourself, although there are much more efficient ways to do so.

Both my parents died from the effects of smoking, and I can tell you, with the greatest of authority, that it is not a pleasant way to go out; it's painful beyond belief, slow, agony for the family, and quite unnecessary.

If you're not capable of giving others a thought, and that would seem so, then think about it for yourself and your family.

[Soi Sauce]

And above is another one!

Well, JJ loses another customer as have a lot of Bkk bars, but no doubt the nazis want boozing banned too.

Banning smokes in the uk seems to be killing the pub trade there, but I'm sure you also don't give a sh*t about those who lost their jobs.

Get back in your car, destroy the planet, then tell me you have a leg to stand on.

You Can't be a yank as they hail the land of the free,or is it really greed? hahaha.

Edited September 22, 2010 by Soi Sauce

[hardy1943]

Another step in the right direction. Smoking should be banned from all public places, it is a filthy and disgusting habbit

Could not agree more but then you forgot the addicts

[hardy1943]

To all smokers.

You enjoy smoking cigarettes with all the carcinogens, tars, chemicals and impurities. A by product of your smoking is that my hair and clothes stink just like you do, and you do that without my consent..

I enjoy a beer. A by product of my enjoyment is urine. Would you have any objection if I pi$$ed over your hair and clothes without your consent??

Have a think about it.

I second the motion

[hardy1943]

To all smokers.

You enjoy smoking cigarettes with all the carcinogens, tars, chemicals and impurities. A by product of your smoking is that my hair and clothes stink just like you do, and you do that without my consent..

I enjoy a beer. A by product of my enjoyment is urine. Would you have any objection if I pi$$ed over your hair and clothes without your consent??

Have a think about it.

I second the motion

[Soi Sauce]

Banning cars drom certain areas would be more benficial to life in Bkk.

Haven't you noticed, they stink. Too blinkered I think.

BTW we all eat and that produces <deleted>. By your logic, you should have no objection if I shat all over you.

Finally, if you're so anti-smoke, why do you choose to live in one of the World's most polluted cities?

Hiphopkrit.

Edited September 22, 2010 by Soi Sauce

[F4UCorsair]

I recall going back 10+ years when restaurant owners in Australia were shifting from foot to foot wondering if their restaurant should be the first to go 'non smoking' on the back on non smoking flights, which incidentally, were forced by Australian pilots and the world followed.

It was popular opinion that the first would go broke, but the owners of Nyonya (Malaysian cuisine) in Carlton took a gamble and declared their restaurant non smoking. It was booked solid for over a year and they made buckets of money until the others in the strip saw the error of their way and went down that path. Nyonya is still heavily booked, but so are the others, and us non smokers can now go there without the discomfort of selfish smokers second hand smoke.

The same was said of pubs when state governments legislated to ban smoking, but they've taken it in their stride, same if not greater patronage, and the smokers go outside or to a dedicated smoking area for a fag. It's not the big deal they thought it was. Incidentally, a couple of Australian states are preparing legislation to make smoking in any public place, even the street, an offence, and the only place a smoker will be able to light up is at home. Now that will be a great advance.

If, as you say, people lose their jobs, and I doubt it because that hasn't been the experience in Australia, then I'm sure somebody has done the economic exercise of having them on unemployment benefits versus on health benefits and enormous medical bills carried by the government, because of the effects of passive smoking, principally heart disease and cancer.

I must ask why people go to bars??? Is it to drink alcohol??? Probably, because they're called bars, traditionally places where alcohol is consumed, and not called 'smoking places'. What do those people do if they can't have a fag there??? Not go??? I doubt that.

Statistically, those who smoke, and more particularly smoke heavily, are at the lower end of the socio economic ladder, those least able to afford it, or afford the medical costs associated with smoking. If a few quit as a consequence, a ban will have been worth it.

Edited September 22, 2010 by F4UCorsair

[ryladie99]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

Oh Hel_l yes.....

I am so happy that I can go to the market when I am in Bangkok. It feels so good when I am able to walk every inch without fearing of the smokers. It is a sign of time and Thailand....she did the Right thing......

Wow,wow and wow???

My opinion....

[wintermute]

Well, JJ loses another customer as have a lot of Bkk bars, but no doubt the nazis want boozing banned too.

Your valuable contributions to Thailand's market economy will be sorely missed i'm sure.

Banning smokes in the uk seems to be killing the pub trade there, but I'm sure you also don't give a sh*t about those who lost their jobs.

Rather a few jobs lost than having some yellow toothed smelly cancer bag puffing away on stink.

You Can't be a yank as they hail the land of the free,or is it really greed? hahaha.

Sounds like someone is feeling angry because their country has a seat at the children's table these days.

[Soi Sauce]

I recall going back 10+ years when restaurant owners in Australia were shifting from foot to foot wondering if their restaurant should be the first to go 'non smoking' on the back on non smoking flights, which incidentally, were forced by Australian pilots and the world followed.

It was popular opinion that the first would go broke, but the owners of Nyonya (Malaysian cuisine) in Carlton took a gamble and declared their restaurant non smoking. It was booked solid for over a year and they made buckets of money until the others in the strip saw the error of their way and went down that path. Nyonya is still heavily booked, but so are the others, and us non smokers can now go there without the discomfort of selfish smokers second hand smoke.

The same was said of pubs when state governments legislated to ban smoking, but they've taken it in their stride, same if not greater patronage, and the smokers go outside or to a dedicated smoking area for a fag. It's not the big deal they thought it was. Incidentally, a couple of Australian states are preparing legislation to make smoking in any public place, even the street, an offence, and the only place a smoker will be able to light up is at home. Now that will be a great advance.

If, as you say, people lose their jobs, and I doubt it because that hasn't been the experience in Australia, then I'm sure somebody has done the economic exercise of having them on unemployment benefits versus on health benefits and enormous medical bills carried by the government, because of the effects of passive smoking, principally heart disease and cancer.

I must ask why people go to bars??? Is it to drink alcohol??? Probably, because they're called bars, traditionally places where alcohol is consumed, and not called 'smoking places'. What do those people do if they can't have a fag there??? Not go??? I doubt that.

Statistically, those who smoke, and more particularly smoke heavily, are at the lower end of the socio economic ladder, those least able to afford it, or afford the medical costs associated with smoking. If a few quit as a consequence, a ban will have been worth it.

Just had to be an australian, didn't you.

Pls explain how a sillyzen of the World's most polluting nation per head can get on his high sheep about a little smoke?

Put your own house in order first before you even have a small % of a right to bitch about others.

Biggoted, hyphocrit, and you know it.

You'll be going on about human rights next, like the right to your own country and government next, but forgetting about your mobs past and current treatment of Aborigines.

Like them you have no right to any opinion or are we expected to respect people who come from a murderously, stolen country?

Edited September 22, 2010 by Soi Sauce

[insideleft]

Oh hel_l no.

Drop the attempts at political correctness Thailand. It doesn't suit you.

I'll respect this smoking ban about as much as I respect any smoking ban.

You selfish bastard. I remember the time when one of your kind was in the crowded, hot market that is JJ, and when my wife walked past she happened to brush past one of your stinking smoker friends, burning not just a hole in her dress, but also her leg. The perp that did this, well all he could do was walk away.

Its not just the extra added unpleasant smell that smoking adds to the mix, it is the danger of someone getting burned, or their clothes being damaged. Please dont let the fact that there are children there too, and guess what, their eyes are somewhat in the line of fire too (pun intended), to receive a cigarette to the eyes or face.

So if any one of you smokers is so callous to believe that you have a right to smoke in such a confined area as JJ, and that you have the right to wave a smoldering pseudo weapon around in such a place, then you had better not run into me!!!!!!!

The smoking ban in JJ should be reinforced with more than a 2000b fine, but for the damages that a smoker causes to another when contact is made with the cigarette itself.

[zthyadat]

Another step in the right direction. Smoking should be banned from all public places, it is a filthy and disgusting habbit

The argument used to be that the smoke bothered others and was bad for their health, so smokers had to move outside - fair enough. But now the mere sight of smokers offends non-smokers, who have decided that smokers are "filthy and disgusting" and that they have the right to have them removed entirely, ignoring completely the smoker's or non-smoker's right to hasten his/her demise in any way they see fit. I think fat people eating candy in public are disgusting, and they are damaging their health - why don't we ban them?

I agree that inside Chatuchak is a stupid place to smoke as it is a firetrap and too crowded to enjoy it anyway. But why exactly is it a problem to have a smoke at the clock tower or some other designated outdoor area?

[insideleft]

Thrash em I reckon...<deleted> smokers deserve to be thrashed for being so smoky and burny and rubbishy...blowin their smoke around and tossing their garbage onto the ground where I'm gonna have to look at their decaying cigarette butts for the next 10,000 years.

Bastards I say...set em on fire...nail them to the nearest cross and...and...okay, okay...this is an emotional issue.

It's funny that in actual terms, a right is something that is outlined in a piece of legislation somewhere, yet smokers the world over commonly offer the trite retort "I have a right to smoke" While I am just expected to swallow the suggestion that there is a legal tool in place protecting their determination to produce smoke, to significantly impose upon a biological need of mine, I am considered a pain in the arse when I ask to be directed to the source of this right to smoke.

Life is conditional my smokey friends...It is conditional upon many things in a web of hierarchies...at the top are things we need to do...breathe, eat, blink, sleep, tell others where to go...these things don't need legal tools such as rights, they cannot be chosen or preferred or disregarded...rights are created toward things we have autonomy over - this is why the principle of responsibility is so important in rights/legal arguments...if you have mens rea then take your smoking habeus corpus and pollute areas where others are not affected.

Yeah, I think I am ready for youse smokers to retort your phlemy bile all over me...

Let me make one final point. People have sometimes replied to my posts saying they cannot understand a syllable I post...your admission of not being able to understand is not evidence that my diatribes do not make sense...your admission is information about your cognitive functioning, not my post...

While you smoke and be damned, I write and be damned...actually, I will not be damned because I live in a Goddessless world and there ain't no damnation that I know of, other than smokey market-places.

[IvanDobsky]

As an ex-smoker (nothing worse!) give them their own air-tight boxes to smoke in

1. we wouldn't have to put up with walking past smoke

2. after being open for a few hours, they could walk into a box and not even have to light up, just breathe..nicotine fix fixed!

:jap:

[GarryP]

The issue is not that anyone objects to smokers killing themselves just as they don't object to extremely obese people stuffing their faces with snack foods and also killing themselves in the process. hel_l kill yourself whichever way you want. The problem is that while the fat people overeat they are not affecting those around them (if you exclude the passing of gas which some of them seem to do with wild abandon). However, some people strongly dislike the smell of smoke and are terrified of second hand smoke. Thus, they claim, rightly I believe, that you have no right to inflict your posion on them. Now if cigarettes were smokeless, this would be a non-issue just like obese people and snack food.

[F4UCorsair]

Banning cars drom certain areas would be more benficial to life in Bkk.

Haven't you noticed, they stink. Too blinkered I think.

BTW we all eat and that produces <deleted>. By your logic, you should have no objection if I shat all over you.

Finally, if you're so anti-smoke, why do you choose to live in one of the World's most polluted cities?

Hiphopkrit.

If you're addressing me Soi Sauce, and you may be, of course I would have an objection to any of your by products being put my way. Didn't you understand that???

What I was saying was that if you think it your right to make my clothes and person stink like you do, without my consent, then I should have equal rights and be able to pi$$ over you, or worse.

Soi Sauce gets a bit of stick so resorts to personal insults. I don't condone or even suggest anything/everything the Australian government/s have done is all OK, nor could any citizen of any country, but your rather illogical attack is infantile in the extreme.

You have rather foolishly made the assumption that I am a native born Australian (I am not) living in one of Australia's most polluted cities (I do not). I live in the country, 30 Kms west of Melbourne, Australia, where the air is about as pure as it can be. So, your silly little tirade has fallen flat.

You're welcome to come back for another shot if you wish, but please don't make yourself look such a fool next time.

You won't change opinion that smoking is a filthy habit, imposed on others by arrogant, selfish people, and any moves to ban the practice in Thailand or anywhere else in the world, can't be a bad thing.

Well put GarryP.

[Rumblecat]

The issue is not that anyone objects to smokers killing themselves just as they don't object to extremely obese people stuffing their faces with snack foods and also killing themselves in the process. hel_l kill yourself whichever way you want. The problem is that while the fat people overeat they are not affecting those around them (if you exclude the passing of gas which some of them seem to do with wild abandon). However, some people strongly dislike the smell of smoke and are terrified of second hand smoke. Thus, they claim, rightly I believe, that you have no right to inflict your posion on them. Now if cigarettes were smokeless, this would be a non-issue just like obese people and snack food.

Absolutely. I'm a smoker, but I totally understand the point of view of the anti-smoking brigade. If someone objects to me smoking, or I'm in a no-smoking place, I'll wait till I go home for a cigarette. I don't want to ruin someone's day by insisting that I light up. I mean, I'm not a child. I've got a bit of willpower and I get that life isn't just about satisfying your own needs above everyone elses. It's a wee bit embarrassing when people start slinging words like "Nazi" around. I think we can all agree that smoke does a pretty good job of stinking up clothes and hair, and if someone doesn't want that, fair enough. It's common courtesy.

And writing this post has really made me want a cigarette.

[Wallaby]

Wow what a bunch of wanke_rs we have unearthed in this thread.

My parents smoke. I don't smoke. I don't care if the guy beside me smokes. My clothes will smell of all kinds of pollution (including my own sweat) so a bit of a smokey smell mixed in doesn't worry me. I can also walk past people in the street LEGALLY smoking without a fear that a couple of breaths of their smoke is going to give me cancer. I'm probably more likely to get cancer from all the preservatives in the food and the pollution from all sorts of things these days than inhaling a little bit of smoke.

A friend was having a smoke out on the footpath a few weeks ago. A woman wasn't watching where she was going and bumped his smoke and slightly burnt her arm. The woman went off on a rant and my friend just stood there and took it. In the end I just told her that we were standing there talking, if she can't watch what where she is walking then it's her fault, suck it up and <deleted> off.

If a person is smoking in a place that isn't banned that's fine, nothing to do with anyone else because it is LEGAL, if you don't like it then tough.

As for the poster saying the bars in Australia didn't have a problem being smoke free. I suggest you crawl out from under your rock. The smoking ban is the biggest reason many bar owners have gone bust. When it was first being determined most bar owners wanted the choice whether to place a smoking ban or not. Surely if it would be such a money spinner to be smoke free then all bars would have jumped at the chance, but that wasn't the case. All bars were made to be smoke free.

How about they be given a choice, if a bar has smokers, then non smokers have an option not to go there. If a bar doesn't allow smoking then smokers have the option of not going there.

I hate it when the do gooders impose their own will on what people should and shouldn't do. Harden up and move on to something important in your life than worrying about what others are doing to theirs.

Edited September 22, 2010 by Wallaby