Seh Daeng's Daughter To Lead Political Party In Next Thai Election

[asiawatcher]

Ever heard of swing voters? I disagree with her politics to support the reds but then she is probably backing a hunch and a payday from ....

[animatic]

Ever heard of swing voters? I disagree with her politics to support the reds but then she is probably backing a hunch and a payday from ....

They throw all their hotel keys into a big jar

and then wait to see who arrives knocking at their door later.

Always not who they hoped for or expected.

[tomyummer]

Have I got this wrong, or wasn't she a vocal PAD activist a couple of years back?

Yes, she was. But after his father is murdered (possibly by CRES to control the situation), she continue her father wish. I will not blame her. And please don't tell me it is not murder; that it was just an accidental discharge of bullet (one single bullet) that happens to go through the father head.

Oh my. And all this time I thought it was an 'act of God'?!

[bikersiam]

Please help me on this one ..was his name the late-Khattiya Sawasdipol .. or the late-Khattiya Sawasdipon . which is in FACT the correct translation and WHY thank you for yr help.

[bikersiam]

Do we say chon-buri or chol-buri

[scorecard]

Stupid question I know, but does this party have a program ? I mean "carry on her father's political ambitions and ideology" sounds nice, but I don't think I've seen or read much.

The article that I found earlier by Googling (the other paper, which is not the co-sponsor or whatever of Thaivisa, from 20 Nov 2008) pretty much sums up what his political views were.

Still remember a Sunday before the final encirclement and cleanup when he said to have spoken with K. Thaksin and claimed to be choosen with a few other hard-core chaps to take-over from the softies who wanted to accept the governments offers or just stop. It was not without reason both national and international press called him 'renegade general'.

An extract from a 16-page commentary I wrote at home in April-May...

General Seh Daeng was often sighted at the front lines of the Red Shirt rally site, supervising construction of the petrol-soaked barriers made of tyres and sharpened bamboo stakes. He was complaining of the Red Shirt leaders� apathy towards what the Red Shirts really wanted � an immediate dissolution of the House of Representatives. He claimed there was a split with, in his words, �the doves� (Veera, Dr. Weng, Natthawut and Jatuporn) wanting to accept Abhisit�s roadmap and �the hawks� (Arisaman, Kwanchai and Suporn) opposing it and wanting to �fight to the death� in a prolonged and intensified protest.

He also stated that the Red Shirt leaders wanted him to leave as he said they were unhappy with his branding of the Red Shirt leaders as �being weak� but, he said, Thaksin was the only person who could tell him whether to stay or go; he said that Thaksin had told him that morning that Arisaman was to be the next leader of the Red Shirt movement. Natthawut said on stage that Thaksin did not have authority to replace the Red Shirt leaders.

On 13 May the government announced that the rally site � which measured about a square mile � would be surrounded by army and police forces under the command of the CRES, supported by armoured vehicles and sharpshooters, at 6pm. They would be using live ammunition only in self defense and would be equipped with two types of assault rifle. The army would not move in on the protest site but would seal it off, preventing anyone from entering but allowing people to leave. Throughout the day, the Red Shirt leaders were on stage with fiery rhetoric, saying that they would fight any incursion on them. A widening of the State of Emergency was also announced in 15 provinces where Red Shirt factions were active.

In the early evening, General Seh Daeng was shot in the head, minutes after giving an interview to local and foreign journalists. No one claimed responsibility, but the government denied any involvement and the Red Shirts and Thaksin both chastised the government to the media for �ordering the assassination� of a national hero. He was rushed to a nearby hospital � he was closer to Chulalongkorn Hospital, but the Red Shirt guards did not dare to take him there after he had earlier set up barricades in front of it � and transferred to another after the hospital was surrounded by Red Shirt protesters wanting to take his corpse. He was left in a coma after successful surgery to remove a bullet from his head.

... and then he died on 17 May. As I said above, this shooting is probably the UDD's best case against the military - but even still it could well have been the Reds/Blacks trying to 'shut him up'. Maybe we'll never find out.

Oh, and I'm not a journalist, and don't plan to be.

Thanks. This confirms my belief that "carry on her father's political ambitions and ideology" and "My goal and that of the Khattiyatham Party is to bring justice to society and serve the public" (Khattiyaa Sawasdipol, 12 June 2010) may not match. Unless justice is brought by using the sword and serve the public excludes opponents

Stated by the daughter: .... "carry on her father's political ambitions and ideology" and "My goal and that of the Khattiyatham Party is to bring justice to society and serve the public"

And of course her father would be a great role model, a man who had no respect whatever for the law and the processes of justice, on numerous occasions operated as a lone wolf and a vigilante, breaking all sorts of military laws and policies, had several massive stores of stolen weapons etc., went into and out of Cambodia without getting his passport stamped, also a serious offence, and more.

'Serve the public'. What does that mean?

This brings another point, what Thaiand needs (amongst a million other things) is electoral laws which require that all parties have registered specific manifestos which can be easily interpreted into something solid. And during election campaigns etc., they should all be required to make speeches, hand out detailed literature, take part in moderated debates, answer anonymous questions, to explain in detail what their own manifestos actually mean and what the end result of the policies would look like.

[Buchholz]

Please help me on this one ..was his name the late-Khattiya Sawasdipol .. or the late-Khattiya Sawasdipon . which is in FACT the correct translation and WHY thank you for yr help.

A brief jaunt around Google reveals the following transliterations (they are not translations, btw):

Sae Daeng

Seh Daeng

Khattiya Sawasdipol

Khattiya Sawasdipon

Khattiya Sawatdiphon

Khatiya Sawatdiphol

Transliteration very often involves numerous interpretations, but at the end of the day, in this case, it comes down to the famous Shakespeare line:

"A pile of dung by any other name, would still stink."

Edited September 28, 2010 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

what Thailand needs (amongst a million other things) is electoral laws which require that all parties have registered specific manifestos which can be easily interpreted into something solid. And during election campaigns etc., they should all be required to make speeches, hand out detailed literature, take part in moderated debates, answer anonymous questions, to explain in detail what their own manifestos actually mean and what the end result of the policies would look like.

Part of what you suggest already exists, although not with all the specificity you speak of, in the Organic Act on Political Party B.E. 2541 (1998).

For example, Section 9:

In the formation of a political party, the promoters of political party shall convene a meeting to lay down the directive principles of policy and the regulations of political party and to elect the Executive Committee of political party.

and Section 13:

The person who has been elected the Leader of political party shall submit to the Registrar the application for formation of the political party together with the directive principles of policy of political party, the regulations of political party, an account showing assets and liabilities of the political party and a copy of minutes of the meeting of the promoters of political party.

The full Act is available here:

http://www.ect.go.th/english/files/forum/Organic%20law%20on%20Political%20Parties.pdf

Additionally, a list of all political parties is also listed on the Election Commission website (although it was last updated in 2007):

http://www.ect.go.th/english/files/List%20of%20Political%20Parties%20in%20Thailand%20%2812%20Nov.%2007%29.pdf

It reveals there were 66 political parties in Thailand at the time with some interesting party names chosen.

[geriatrickid]

The daughter is a well spoken intelligent woman. She also has some excellent credentials, Her skills and connections will help her build bridges.

It is unfortunate that some TVFers have not bothered to learn about her past activity, her work and her circle of friends. She has no taint of corruption because she earned her way in life. She was gainfully employed by an international law firm. If anyone should be worried, it should be the Red Shirts, because she was at one time a supporter of the yellow shirt movement. Many of her current friends, some of which are in the present government, also supported those views. As a PAD supporter at the time, that would hardly have made her a supporter of the former PM Thaksin. She, like many other Thais following the disgusting airport seizures, distanced herself from PAD.

It is depressing to see the derogatory comments made in respect to a young woman that wants to make a better society to live in. There is no evidence to suggest she has advocated violence or will adopt the same hardline strategy as her murdered father. Don't you think that someone trying to make a positive difference, should be given a chance to participate in the democratic process? Sometimes children are more gifted than their parents and there is a strong likelihood that she just might be able to take her father's followers and move them towards a more peaceful and constructive position. She's no radical rabble rousing revolutionary and is on an equal social and educational footing with the current cabinet members.

Edited September 29, 2010 by geriatrickid

[Buchholz]

The daughter is a well spoken intelligent woman.

she was at one time a supporter of the yellow shirt movement.

As a PAD supporter

The words of the "well spoken intelligent woman" herself (previously posted, but apparently over-looked):

From an earlier interview with her:

Q : People see you as a yellow-shirt supporter, the group that opposes the red shirts. Many believe you might have been against your father.

But going to the yellow-shirt protest site did not mean I was its supporter. I just wanted to get information from every side.

As for:

Many of her current friends, some of which are in the present government

Who, for example?

Edited September 29, 2010 by Buchholz