Restaurant

[cmjantje]

Do you think there is a market here in Chiang Rai for a restaurant, serving tops 12 people, open only on friday and saturday.

A restaurant serving the absolute, at least, prime A beef. Limited menu which changes every weekend except for the beef. (Think of soups, sauces and sideplates etc). Beef can be barbequed, baked in the oven, sauteed in butter or oliveoil or even, if you want, served raw)

You yould have to drive about 30 minutes from centre Chiang Rai, make reservations before and maybe share a table with other people because there are only two round tables with both 6 cairs.

Tables, chairs, light and music all first class

Price range from 300 to 800 per person depending on the meat and weight of the meat. Main dishes always accompanied with the most fresh vegetable from the own garden (no insecticeds or whatever).

The restaurant would not sell pop's beers, wines or whateve, you have to bring your and the restaurant will provide the glasses and the ice, but of course has as much healthy sourcewater you can get for free of course.

[jubby]

I don't know how to respond Cmjante. I do honestly think CR has enough restaurants, and how could such a restaurant cover its overheads opening two days a week !?

Do you know of such a place or thinking about a venture yourself ?

The no Drink wouldn't be a good Idea. maybe provide them free or at cost would be a splendid Idea.

Option to bring your own could be a good Idea.

Tell us more Cmjante

[sceadugenga]

The only way I could envisage it is as an aside/attachment to a 5 star or boutique type hotel.

This would provide the customers who, by the fact they could afford the hotel rates, could pay 800B for a steak.

As to distance, you only have to see the problems Don's Cafe has, and he's no where near 30 minutes from town.

[scorpio1945]

Who would be your target market. If it is expats, the 30 minutes would pare the customers considerably. There might be a lot of people who would like to go occasionally for a special ooccasion but the reality is that there is SO MANY CHOICES now that they probably would not. The comment about Don's is true. There aie at least 20 places I could easily pick each night. For a place like that you may have to make it a membership type deal. Not sure how you would find your customers though.

[grrr]

Nice idea...but no.

[dindong]

Nice idea...but no.

Sorry, I have to agree .

I think it's a non-starter and though you may start up such a venture with a small amount of capital, I fear you cannot make a profit.

[villagefarang]

Perhaps you could start up a dinner club, if you were to recruit enough members. Move the venue from house to house. Unfortunately you might have to be the one driving 30 minutes or more to sit in someone else's garden and bringing your own drinks.

[Garry]

Perhaps you could start up a dinner club, if you were to recruit enough members. Move the venue from house to house. Unfortunately you might have to be the one driving 30 minutes or more to sit in someone else's garden and bringing your own drinks.

Hey good idea VF, you up for a BBQ next time I'm back in country? I'll bring the stakes, my lovely wife and the offspring. Makro have good T Bone steaks, but I'm going to have educate the butcher that a real T bone steak isn't a 1/2" thick. If I can get them cut 1" to 1.5", now that would be a T bone worth digging into. Thoughts?

[cmjantje]

Thank you all for your honest reply!

[jubby]

Perhaps you could start up a dinner club, if you were to recruit enough members. Move the venue from house to house. Unfortunately you might have to be the one driving 30 minutes or more to sit in someone else's garden and bringing your own drinks.

Hey good idea VF, you up for a BBQ next time I'm back in country? I'll bring the stakes, my lovely wife and the offspring. Makro have good T Bone steaks, but I'm going to have educate the butcher that a real T bone steak isn't a 1/2" thick. If I can get them cut 1" to 1.5", now that would be a T bone worth digging into. Thoughts?

Stakes Garry, !? ....... Will they be really necessary.

[sceadugenga]

Thank you all for your honest reply!

Bear in mind that a lot of successful ventures have been started in spite of a great deal of negative opinion.

You would need to do a considerable amount of advertising. If you decide to go ahead you need to study similar businesses and see how they became successful.

Personally I've no idea and I doubt many others here have, although we do have one former hotel manager among us, the hospitality and catering industry has claimed many victims.

[skybluestu]

One of London's finest restaurants, Gordon Ramsay's Royal Hospital Road, started off only being open 2-3 days a week and is reservation only and it's also very small and expensive so you never know what might happen! It's now has three Michelin stars and is booked in advance week in week out, obviously CR isn't London and cmjantje isn't Gordon Ramsay but good luck if you do go ahead with it.

[Paul888]

I am seeing one or two small flaws in this plan.... not least that prime beef is a lot harder to find here than hotdogs and buns.

That aside, I agree with VF something like this would only work as a "club"..

[delboygoeslarge]

I say hit the Extreme high end end And do everything perfectly. Target work functions and corporates. Bookings only, no bookings no costs. Don't restrict yourself to beef. Taylor each menu to the client. Match wine. And provide limousine transport. It can work you just need to get it right..... My 2 satangs worth

[marcgee]

The menu and set up are appealing

I believe that Price can be saleable if the quality is there even in C.R.

BUT -- 30 min. o/o C.R. sounds like you're adding a very big hurdle that would cut potential customers greatly, that is if C.R.business is what you're after.

It is a tough business with everything being a positive.

marcgee

[Garry]

Perhaps you could start up a dinner club, if you were to recruit enough members. Move the venue from house to house. Unfortunately you might have to be the one driving 30 minutes or more to sit in someone else's garden and bringing your own drinks.

Hey good idea VF, you up for a BBQ next time I'm back in country? I'll bring the stakes, my lovely wife and the offspring. Makro have good T Bone steaks, but I'm going to have educate the butcher that a real T bone steak isn't a 1/2" thick. If I can get them cut 1" to 1.5", now that would be a T bone worth digging into. Thoughts?

Stakes Garry, !? ....... Will they be really necessary.

Bwaahhahaaaa..typoooooo....dam_n errant 'e', that would be steaks

[villagefarang]

Perhaps you could start up a dinner club, if you were to recruit enough members. Move the venue from house to house. Unfortunately you might have to be the one driving 30 minutes or more to sit in someone else's garden and bringing your own drinks.

Hey good idea VF, you up for a BBQ next time I'm back in country? I'll bring the stakes, my lovely wife and the offspring. Makro have good T Bone steaks, but I'm going to have educate the butcher that a real T bone steak isn't a 1/2" thick. If I can get them cut 1" to 1.5", now that would be a T bone worth digging into. Thoughts?

Whatever her reasons, my wife went off beaf awhile back. In deference to her, I stopped partaking as well. That would not preclude you from indulging, however. I'm sure we could come up with a menu and there is plenty of room, as you know. Maybe we could haul a couple of fish out of the pond as well, but they are not easy to catch.

[Garry]

Perhaps you could start up a dinner club, if you were to recruit enough members. Move the venue from house to house. Unfortunately you might have to be the one driving 30 minutes or more to sit in someone else's garden and bringing your own drinks.

Hey good idea VF, you up for a BBQ next time I'm back in country? I'll bring the stakes, my lovely wife and the offspring. Makro have good T Bone steaks, but I'm going to have educate the butcher that a real T bone steak isn't a 1/2" thick. If I can get them cut 1" to 1.5", now that would be a T bone worth digging into. Thoughts?

Whatever her reasons, my wife went off beaf awhile back. In deference to her, I stopped partaking as well. That would not preclude you from indulging, however. I'm sure we could come up with a menu and there is plenty of room, as you know. Maybe we could haul a couple of fish out of the pond as well, but they are not easy to catch.

No problem either way mate. I eat more pork and fish than beef when I'm hope. All is good, but sounds like a plan

[cmjantje]

I know there are already plenty of restaurants in CR. But Noone can bring you the steak you would expect. It is Impossible to serve a steak, I mean a real one, for 2 to 400 Baht. It is always tenderized, sometimes it looks more like minced meat, the graveys and sauces are made with Knorr.

Many of us are very happy with the sh*t from pizzacompany while for the same price as a real DaVinci one which is 1000% better ok, beat me to death.

If you can pay almost 100 Baht for a simple McDonald hamburger with 1 1/2 mm. meat and some extra's, up to you.

But if there is a restaurant a little bit more far away that serves you from Prime A to Real Angus beef and all the sauces etc. absolutely hand made, who can serve you a real almost 300 gram Real Angus hamBurger, what would you choose? And nothing, absolutely nothing is tenderized. You pay per 100 gram, the cut is made at your table at Your wishes, if you want you can sign it.

I wish there was a restaurant like this.

[jubby]

I know there are already plenty of restaurants in CR. But Noone can bring you the steak you would expect. It is Impossible to serve a steak, I mean a real one, for 2 to 400 Baht. It is always tenderized, sometimes it looks more like minced meat, the graveys and sauces are made with Knorr.

Many of us are very happy with the sh*t from pizzacompany while for the same price as a real DaVinci one which is 1000% better ok, beat me to death.

If you can pay almost 100 Baht for a simple McDonald hamburger with 1 1/2 mm. meat and some extra's, up to you.

But if there is a restaurant a little bit more far away that serves you from Prime A to Real Angus beef and all the sauces etc. absolutely hand made, who can serve you a real almost 300 gram Real Angus hamBurger, what would you choose? And nothing, absolutely nothing is tenderized. You pay per 100 gram, the cut is made at your table at Your wishes, if you want you can sign it.

I wish there was a restaurant like this.

You have a point or two Cmjante.

And you do sound positive today. Are you positive enough , and maybe passionate enough to give it a whirl.? Only you can answer that question.

Is it a pleasant enough Location ?

[villagefarang]

All else being perfect your location would be a major problem, in my opinion. You would need ambiance as well as food.

[jubby]

All else being perfect your location would be a major problem, in my opinion. You would need ambiance as well as food.

Ambiance and 30 mins out of town towards payamengrai

[villagefarang]

All else being perfect your location would be a major problem, in my opinion. You would need ambiance as well as food.

Ambiance and 30 mins out of town towards payamengrai

That is going to be a little too vague and obtuse for most.

[jubby]

All else being perfect your location would be a major problem, in my opinion. You would need ambiance as well as food.

Ambiance and 30 mins out of town towards payamengrai

That is going to be a little too vague and obtuse for most.

Obtuse !? Good Job I'm not 'sensitive' or 'Intelligent' then

[villagefarang]

All else being perfect your location would be a major problem, in my opinion. You would need ambiance as well as food.

Ambiance and 30 mins out of town towards payamengrai

That is going to be a little too vague and obtuse for most.

Obtuse !? Good Job I'm not 'sensitive' or 'Intelligent' then

Wow, how did that happen? The word was obscure. How did it ever become obtuse? Anyway mea culpa, I am so very sorry for that slip of the keyboard.

[ginooooo]

One of London's finest restaurants, Gordon Ramsay's Royal Hospital Road, started off only being open 2-3 days a week and is reservation only and it's also very small and expensive so you never know what might happen! It's now has three Michelin stars and is booked in advance week in week out, obviously CR isn't London and cmjantje isn't Gordon Ramsay but good luck if you do go ahead with it.

Love Gordo and all his shows on tv. Never ate his food, but love his style.

[jubby]

Obtuse !? Good Job I'm not 'sensitive' or 'Intelligent' then

Wow, how did that happen? The word was obscure. How did it ever become obtuse? Anyway mea culpa, I am so very sorry for that slip of the keyboard.

Freudian Slip maybe VF !?

Did you ever consult a 'Freudian' ? ... I know its been suggested once or twice

[cmjantje]

OK Guys and Dolls,

I decided not to put money in a project that is too discussable. I think Most of you did not understand what I was talking about and that is the Quality of the food. Nothing tenderized, no artifivial ingredients, comfortable seats and very much attention for the guest.

Maybe in my next life!