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mania Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 these bikes are nearly 20 years old now in Thailand they became opened like a lettuce Hard to find a reliable one besides, a good mechanic that can fix it without screwing you.And, you need lots of time and patience. I do all my own work so if frame is sound I would not be worried Age is ok especially with bikes. If again frame is straight & suspension/handling/geometry of that year was still good by todays standards then all would be fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 these bikes are nearly 20 years old now in Thailand they became opened like a lettuce Hard to find a reliable one besides, a good mechanic that can fix it without screwing you.And, you need lots of time and patience. I do all my own work so if frame is sound I would not be worried Age is ok especially with bikes. If again frame is straight & suspension/handling/geometry of that year was still good by todays standards then all would be fine with me. mania, i checked many cbr400r in Thailand and yes, their problem is all about their frame. You can fix all but not the frame as you know. And all here is either crashed bikes imported from Japan or the guys here crash them over 20 years many times. The last two cbr400 i see had a shaved frame means it is crashed and they shaved both sides to hide it or they do welding and stuff but a damaged and bend chassis never works the same way again and chassis is one of the most important thing especially on a racing bike. You can easily notice it touching the chassis from bottom to top with your fingers or if there are discoloration around the welds. I mean, they are cool bikes yes, but hard to deal with them anymore as they passed 20 years now. I do not have time to deal with them or spent money on a 20 years old racing bike. Besides, it is hard to sell it after buying it. But, if you have time, money and patience, why not man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 mania, i checked many cbr400r in Thailand and yes, their problem is all about their frame. Well that is a shame & no I would not touch a modified or repaired frame. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Every now and then the Niyom Panich Honda dealer will get in a factory restored "big bike". Last week they had both a Steed and a CB 400. You're gonna pay for them, be sure, but they do come with a limited warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 mania, i checked many cbr400r in Thailand and yes, their problem is all about their frame. Well that is a shame & no I would not touch a modified or repaired frame. Thanks exactly. besides, humid climate of Thailand do not help keeping bikes in good condition. And maybe, i am too tired to wait at the mechanics many times in my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Has anybody tried the Tsukigi full system on their bike. I like the look and quality finish on them and cheap at 5.500b for full stainless system. sent from my Wellcom A90+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 5500 is good price for a full system but i heard mix reports about it here about the quality of it and some of the pipes burned out. ww.biohazardcycles.com/servlet/the-6076/LEOVINCE-3468-SLIP-ON/Detail check this out thai cbr. this pipe cost around 9000 thb to arrive Thailand including everything and the owner of biohazard state it like used unit so less customs. Good reviews about it and it is a leo vince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 5500 is good price for a full system but i heard mix reports about it here about the quality of it and some of the pipes burned out.ww.biohazardcycles.com/servlet/the-6076/LEOVINCE-3468-SLIP-ON/Detail check this out thai cbr. this pipe cost around 9000 thb to arrive Thailand including everything and the owner of biohazard state it like used unit so less customs. Good reviews about it and it is a leo vince. How do you mean the pipes burnt out????? sent from my Wellcom A90+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 burnt carbon fiber man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampal Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I have the the full Tsukigi exhaust on my bike. It's not overly loud and has worked fine. I bought it 6 months ago from Sumet Cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 burnt carbon fiber man. ahhhh o.. Well that is NOT a TSUKIGI as they are stainless steel.. Your thinking of the cheapo ones from Praram.. Look good......but. Pampal... are you happy with the exhaust? Did you reset the ecu when it got installed? any other info would be good.. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) burnt carbon fiber man. ahhhh o.. Well that is NOT a TSUKIGI as they are stainless steel.. Your thinking of the cheapo ones from Praram.. Look good......but. Pampal... are you happy with the exhaust? Did you reset the ecu when it got installed? any other info would be good.. Thanks no man, they have a carbon fiber one as well. And, you do not need any ecu reset or something. But, 5500 thb is a super price for a full system and do not forget, anything is better that the stock Just all the weight that you get rid of from the bike - around 6-7 kg - is enough anyway even if there is no significant performance increase hahaha just go forward. Edited October 5, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 ^ Is KRS1 your 14 year old twin brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 burnt carbon fiber man. ahhhh o.. Well that is NOT a TSUKIGI as they are stainless steel.. Your thinking of the cheapo ones from Praram.. Look good......but. Pampal... are you happy with the exhaust? Did you reset the ecu when it got installed? any other info would be good.. Thanks no man, they have a carbon fiber one as well. And, you do not need any ecu reset or something. But, 5500 thb is a super price for a full system and do not forget, anything is better that the stock Just all the weight that you get rid of from the bike - around 6-7 kg - is enough anyway even if there is no significant performance increase hahaha just go forward. No man...TSUKIGI DO NOT have a carbon fibre can.. You are thinking of another brand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebula Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Is there something wrong that can be going on when near red line at 5 gear and around 130 km/h? I had like sudden lost of power for 1 sec then again... is it normal? Was this a sign I had to go 6th gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Is there something wrong that can be going on when near red line at 5 gear and around 130 km/h? I had like sudden lost of power for 1 sec then again... is it normal? Was this a sign I had to go 6th gear? yes.. sounds like rev limiter.. but jeeze why were you in 5th at 130kmh? You are so FAR OUT of the powerband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) jeeze why were you in 5th at 130kmh? You are so FAR OUT of the powerband. That can be fun too. Might not give the fastest 1/4 mile times, but bouncing off the limiter in every gear is always fun. For me at least. Edit: I often see 142-145kph in 5th. Haven't been out of the city in a while so no chance to open it up, but what's it at when it hits the limiter (11,500rpm) in 5th. Not far off 150kph surely. Edited October 5, 2012 by cbrer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampal Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 burnt carbon fiber man. ahhhh o.. Well that is NOT a TSUKIGI as they are stainless steel.. Your thinking of the cheapo ones from Praram.. Look good......but. Pampal... are you happy with the exhaust? Did you reset the ecu when it got installed? any other info would be good.. Thanks I am definitely happy with the exhaust. Originally I was planning on buying a more expensive exhaust untill I saw the Tsukigi on another bike. I like the sound and it wasn't overly loud, so no problems from the BIB. It looks good and the can has turned an interesting rainbow tint, which I like. Brian from Sumet had the Tsukigi track pipe on his 250 and that thing is crazy loud. Anyway I haven't reset the ECU and when I first installed it, the bike would sometimes stall after a cold start in the mornings. But after a couple of days that stopped happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 burnt carbon fiber man. ahhhh o.. Well that is NOT a TSUKIGI as they are stainless steel.. Your thinking of the cheapo ones from Praram.. Look good......but. Pampal... are you happy with the exhaust? Did you reset the ecu when it got installed? any other info would be good.. Thanks I am definitely happy with the exhaust. Originally I was planning on buying a more expensive exhaust untill I saw the Tsukigi on another bike. I like the sound and it wasn't overly loud, so no problems from the BIB. It looks good and the can has turned an interesting rainbow tint, which I like. Brian from Sumet had the Tsukigi track pipe on his 250 and that thing is crazy loud. Anyway I haven't reset the ECU and when I first installed it, the bike would sometimes stall after a cold start in the mornings. But after a couple of days that stopped happening. Thanks for that. I think this will be the one I get. sent from my ..................# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I found the Tsukugi very loud. Too loud to listen to for two hours everyday. But perhaps I have sensitive ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I found the Tsukugi very loud. Too loud to listen to for two hours everyday.But perhaps I have sensitive ears. Are you talking about the round one or the megafone one????? sent from my ..................# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Sorry, I was on the whiskeys. I like the sound and it wasn't overly loud, so no problems from the BIB. It looks good and the can has turned an interesting rainbow tint, which I like. Brian from Sumet had the Tsukigi track pipe on his 250 and that thing is crazy loud. It must have been the racing pipe that I had heard. I'd be interested in the road version if it's half the dB level. btw, the Leo Vince Evo II gets rave reviews from people who don't like ultra-loud pipes, as it's designed to meet EU noise levels. It has a 5-hole plate that inserts into the headpipe connection piece that reduces the dB level. Without it it's just as loud as others. I wonder if such a thing would be possible with the ultr-loud Thai made pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 burnt carbon fiber man. ahhhh o.. Well that is NOT a TSUKIGI as they are stainless steel.. Your thinking of the cheapo ones from Praram.. Look good......but. Pampal... are you happy with the exhaust? Did you reset the ecu when it got installed? any other info would be good.. Thanks no man, they have a carbon fiber one as well. And, you do not need any ecu reset or something. But, 5500 thb is a super price for a full system and do not forget, anything is better that the stock Just all the weight that you get rid of from the bike - around 6-7 kg - is enough anyway even if there is no significant performance increase hahaha just go forward. No man...TSUKIGI DO NOT have a carbon fibre can.. You are thinking of another brand you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) btw, the Leo Vince Evo II gets rave reviews from people who don't like ultra-loud pipes, as it's designed to meet EU noise levels. It has a 5-hole plate that inserts into the headpipe connection piece that reduces the dB level. Without it it's just as loud as others. Kind of a catch 22 if looking for a performance gain by changing pipes. One the one hand a good pipe has better flow & a calculated back pressure to optimize performance. If you start putting 5 hole restrictor plates in there I do not think it is going to be any better performance wise than stock Of course it is probably a built lighter but with this bike tipping the scales where it does the power to weight ratio is never going to be all that great without major engine mods. Then your back to the intake/exhaust needing more flow with the accompanying sound increase. At the end of the day if sound restriction is very important to the rider they probably can save their money. As the stock pipe is Honda engineered as some trade off point similar to what a person looking for a quiet pipe is...probably Of course there may be a good pipe performance vs sound out there. But almost always an increase in performance will have an increase in sound. IMHO Edited October 6, 2012 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebula Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 jeeze why were you in 5th at 130kmh? You are so FAR OUT of the powerband. That can be fun too. Might not give the fastest 1/4 mile times, but bouncing off the limiter in every gear is always fun. For me at least. Edit: I often see 142-145kph in 5th. Haven't been out of the city in a while so no chance to open it up, but what's it at when it hits the limiter (11,500rpm) in 5th. Not far off 150kph surely. That s what I knew that its possible to go nearly 150 on 5th but this was less than 140...so I had some scary thoughts what could it be. But if it s the limiter I guess I just wont do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Never seen a carbon Tsukigi can. That doesn't look like Tsukigi. Here is the stainless full system. This is on a 150. Sent from my GT-P1010 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited October 6, 2012 by thaicbr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Sorry, I was on the whiskeys. I like the sound and it wasn't overly loud, so no problems from the BIB. It looks good and the can has turned an interesting rainbow tint, which I like. Brian from Sumet had the Tsukigi track pipe on his 250 and that thing is crazy loud. It must have been the racing pipe that I had heard. I'd be interested in the road version if it's half the dB level. btw, the Leo Vince Evo II gets rave reviews from people who don't like ultra-loud pipes, as it's designed to meet EU noise levels. It has a 5-hole plate that inserts into the headpipe connection piece that reduces the dB level. Without it it's just as loud as others. I wonder if such a thing would be possible with the ultr-loud Thai made pipes. Hi Siampreggers, any idea where to get the Leo Vince Evo II in Thailand for a good price? A friend wants one. Good to see you back by the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Who's Siampreggers? A rep for Prego pasta sauces over here? I don't really like the stuff myself. Much better to cook them up from scratch. I haven't looked for the Evo II over here, but haven't seen any. I know Tom from Biohazard has a good rep with posting stuff over (is very happy to oblige in marking things to get past customs with minimal extortion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Never seen a carbon Tsukigi can. That doesn't look like Tsukigi. Here is the stainless full system. This is on a 150. Sent from my GT-P1010 using Thaivisa Connect App thaicbr i regret my decision to buy dan moto exhaust from China - actually dan moto has American branch as well - it is great in terms of sound and performance but it got burned down within 2 weeks. That is why just pay 9000 thb an get a Leo vince from biohazard, i really mean it man. Just a honest recommendation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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