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Best Gps Available In Thailand

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Living and driving here for 5 years I have been using a pretty good map from Caltex but it is a bit dated. Driving directions using Google maps has been very hit and miss. Friends keep advising me to get a GPS. Any thoughts are appreciated on what is the best GPS to use here in Thailand? Price doesnt matter. Accuracy and ease of use with good visibility and verbal instructions in English are most important. Portability is also a desire.

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If you drive in Bangkok often then the high end Garmin nuvi GPS units, with lane assist and junction view, are worthwhile. Any Garmin model currently sold in Thailand, with Thailand Street Map included, will get the job done. The 4.3 or 5 inch screen units are easier to see at a glance. Check out this link to Eagle GPS, Chiang Mia for descriptions of Garmin units available in Thailand: Eagle GPS .

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I bought a Garmin 205W a couple of months ago and l am delighted with it. It comes with up to date Thai maps. I use it in my car and also as a hand held set. I purchased it from Eagle GPS in Chiang Mai as they are TV sponsers and it was on special offer at the time

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Thanks All. I am going to go with the Nuvi 1460 and make the purchase from Eagle.

Thanks All. I am going to go with the Nuvi 1460 and make the purchase from Eagle.

If you're a first time buyer of a GPS there are some things not mentioned here which might be helpful.

1. The models sold in Thailand are older models.

2. Every model I've seen sold in Thailand since the Nuvi 350 has required you to plug the usb power connector into the gps each and every time you pull the gps from the console and put it in the mount. Better models allow the usb power connector to connect into the mount itself, and the mount has contacts.. so mounting and dismounting the gps (which if you want to keep it is a good idea) is a 2 second deal.. I personally find farting around with the usb connector on the gps itself a major PIA.

3. If English is your desired language, the only real advantage to buying a model marketed in Thailand is the Junction View feature. All other features work on overseas models. Junction View is no doubt nice, but not a show stopper.. especially considering how useful Lane Assist is.

4. Models purchases in the US especially (check out Amazon.com) are much less expensive.

I've had several, some bought here, some I've shipped in. My latest, a Nuvi 3970t is pricey as hel_l and I was very surprised it was worth the price difference. You'd have to use it to understand, its about more than the stated features.. it's the vastly improved reception, speed of the routing engine, accuracy of the routing engine (it finds all the shortcuts locals use which none of the others consistently did), very high quality high-rez dispaly, and it has another power to so great things with that high-rez display (the part I can't describe well).. It looks like an Iphone 4, but thinner.. maybe more than than an current Itouch. And the speech recognition is awesome. I set my "control phrase to "computer"" So.. you say "computer?" It shows you the choices on the screen and asks you what you want.. If the radio is off, even in my noisy oil burner, it recognizes my speech on the first try.. it's very fast and actually useful. I didn't use the speech much in my Nuvi 885t unless my hands were both tied up, but I use the speech with the Nuvi 3970t all the time.. it's that good.

You said price didn't matter.. so this is the one to get imo. Amazon ships many products overseas, but if they don't use a shipment forwarding service. I usethis one every month or so and it's great.

At 449.99 USD retail, sans Thailand map, I'll wait until the 3790T price comes down a little.

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At 449.99 USD retail, sans Thailand map, I'll wait until the 3790T price comes down a little.

Actually, $449 (full retail price) is cheaper than some of the 2-3 year old models being sold in Thailand.. though they do come with the maps.

You can find them for about $419 if you look around.. and they sell the non-3d and non-BT models for about $300.. I figure it will be a long time before the Thailand map set catches up to 3D building view and I'm not really a fan of Bluetooth phone via GPS.. so if you're only using it in Thailand the 3750/60 would be more cost effective. This model is so much nicer than the others you won't believe it until you have one in your hands. Night and day difference in many areas.

The going price for the maps isn't nearly as much as it used to be either.

The Thai retail outlets should be ashamed for selling these old models at full retail or more.. but I suppose instead they're proud.

The Thai retail outlets should be ashamed for selling these old models at full retail or more.. but I suppose instead they're proud.

The reason is import duties and taxes, you are in Thailand after all. The retailers would just as soon sell a GPS at close to US prices if they could, but the Thai government won't allow it. What's the cost of the 3790T in Singapore, if available yet?

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The Thai retail outlets should be ashamed for selling these old models at full retail or more.. but I suppose instead they're proud.

The reason is import duties and taxes, you are in Thailand after all. The retailers would just as soon sell a GPS at close to US prices if they could, but the Thai government won't allow it. What's the cost of the 3790T in Singapore, if available yet?

Its available,but no price is listed. Singapore usually beats Thailand prices by a significant margin. I buy a lot of photo and electronic gear by nature of my profession and I'll often make day trips down to Singapore to buy gear because it's worth it to make the trip. Not counting that Singapore shop owners are much more knowledgeable about their products.. at least this has been my experience. For larger purchases such as a few large format ink jet prints (Epson 7xxx series specifically) and a bulk buy of ink and paper, Singapore is much cheaper even taking into account taxes and duty.

The truth its, import taxes and duties are only part of it. Every country has these, some higher than others. But when you can call another country and order a product, pay for shipping, pay th private citizen rate for import duties and taxes, and still get a better price.. then you know the locals here are either very poor businessmen and know nothing about purchasing.. or they've just made up their minds (often in collusion with their competitors) to charge a certain price and make a certain percentage on each unit.. or nothing at all. Again, poor business practices. But it severely compounds the issue when they decide to carry old models you know they have to be buying at liquidation prices to make an even larger profit margin, while refusing to carry the newer models.

Another example would be cameras. You can usually find a very competitive price on a DSLR camera body here in Thailand. Perhaps within 5% of US prices. Yet, lenses, batteries, and accessories are 40-45% more than US prices. When you participate in this practice you effectively are stunting the growth of your own market. Again, poor business practices. When you keep the companion products as affordable as the main product, then not only will more people who bought the main product by more companion products.. but the overall popularity of the product grows resulting in many more unique buyers of the main products.

Sell more products, even at reduced margins, means making more money. Business 101.. but here, the local businessmen rely more on a closed market, graft, and the good ol' boy system to protect their own little niche (at the expense of the overall market).. It's shameful from a consumer point of view, but also from a business point of view. If they stray from the agreed upon price structure (in the west we call this price fixing or monopolizing and it's illegal) they upset people.. and the laws and society allow their punishment. Sad.

Sorry to get up on a soapbox.. but it's really not about import duties and taxes. It's about poor business practices. And the OP could more wisely spend his money by buying outside of Thailand and simply having it shipped here directly. I do it all the time, pay my import duties and taxes, and the shipping via US Express Mail taxes an average of 4 days. There's no reason not to.

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I have a tomtom IQ, with Thai maps, and a garmin nuvi with the latest Thai maps, both bought in the UK, but i would say the tomtom maps have more detail, just my 2 bobs worth.

I have a tomtom IQ, with Thai maps, and a garmin nuvi with the latest Thai maps, both bought in the UK, but i would say the tomtom maps have more detail, just my 2 bobs worth.

It's no secret that there are maps with better road detail, especially in rural areas, than the ESRI Thailand Street Map. Well covered on this Forum. But unless you are cycling or have a 4WD the extra, unnumbered third class roads are of questionable value. If you want better rural road detail on you Garmin nuvi then get a City Navigator Southeast Asia NT v4.5 or better map.

I bought a Garmin StreetPilot c320 about 5 years to tour Thailand and we did 15,000Km in 6 months. I thought it was a fantastic produce and you can get it updated at Garmin Office in Bangkok for a charge of THB1200. Have recently bought a new Toyota with a fitted Sat Nav as standard. It is useless, looks nice but that is as far as it goes, it does not even recognise Pattaya's existance! I use my Garmin to find hotels, addresses etc when friends ask for information. I bought the Garmin from Pantip Plaza at at the time is was THB30,000 but they have seriously driped in price since then. In my opinion any Garmin is a good product.

I bought a Garmin StreetPilot c320 about 5 years to tour Thailand and we did 15,000Km in 6 months. I thought it was a fantastic produce and you can get it updated at Garmin Office in Bangkok for a charge of THB1200. Have recently bought a new Toyota with a fitted Sat Nav as standard. It is useless, looks nice but that is as far as it goes, it does not even recognise Pattaya's existance! I use my Garmin to find hotels, addresses etc when friends ask for information. I bought the Garmin from Pantip Plaza at at the time is was THB30,000 but they have seriously driped in price since then. In my opinion any Garmin is a good product.

Yep. My Nuvi 350 was baht 42,000 at ERSI and I think the map itself at that time was like 14000.. prices have dropped a bunch.

But there are differences in Garmin products.. most as you say are good, but they have built some lemons, had some recalls, and some features really add to their utility. If you haven't tried a newer model Garmin you'll be blown away by the differences over one made 5 years ago. I still keep my old Nuvi 350 around because it works great and map updates are only 400 baht now.. and loan it to guests visiting the country. A friend talked me out of my Nuvi 885t when I ordered my 3790t.. but now that he's seen the 3790t he can't believe the differences.. so he's planning on upgrading to the 3790t.. Often a newer model only adds incremental improvements, but sometimes they're quite significant. From five years ago they're huge.

Most of the complaints I have read about the 3700 series of Garmin GPSs revolve around them not being particularly durable, especially the glass face. Anyone have any issues with durability?

David

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Most of the complaints I have read about the 3700 series of Garmin GPSs revolve around them not being particularly durable, especially the glass face. Anyone have any issues with durability?

David

I've only had mine for a month.. but so far it seems just as durable as the others. Though, at first it feels like nothing.. it's so light and so thin you just can't imagine it being as tough as the others. But after you use it for a while you gain a lot more confidence with it. I'm not sure I'd want to sit on the thing.. its easy to imagine the glass (it's a really super tough glass) breaking if you do, but I'm not sure it would. At first I felt the same way about my smartphone (HTC Desire), but now its in my back pocket all the time and if I sit on it, no issues. Maybe the design will take a while to get used to and build confidence.

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Hi, I am currently using a iPhone app called Sygic for navigation but it's not great and I'm looking at getting a dedicated GPS device. Can anyone tell me if a Garmin GPS will avoid the following issues that I currently have:

- Unable to tell if I am travelling on an expressway or on the road underneath it

- Unable to identify whether or not a route involves tolls

- Missing lots of small streets

- Does not highlight what lane I should be in except on major highways

Would I need to spend a lot to avoid the above issues?

Just came back from an aborted trip down Rama 9 where I was driven crazy by the fact that the system kept thinking I was on the tollway when I was underneath it; or the other way around.

Appreciate any advice, thanks

Most of the problems you are reporting are map issues, try another map. Although I don't believe the iPhone with Sygic has a GPS receiver in the application (I could be wrong), which is your real problem. Buy a Garmin nuvi, prices are coming down in Thailand, Nuvi 205 is now 4900 baht complete with Thailand Street Map. No GPS will work reliably underneath an elevated road, needs a signal to find your location.

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Hi, I am currently using a iPhone app called Sygic for navigation but it's not great and I'm looking at getting a dedicated GPS device. Can anyone tell me if a Garmin GPS will avoid the following issues that I currently have:

- Unable to tell if I am travelling on an expressway or on the road underneath it

- Unable to identify whether or not a route involves tolls

- Missing lots of small streets

- Does not highlight what lane I should be in except on major highways

Would I need to spend a lot to avoid the above issues?

Just came back from an aborted trip down Rama 9 where I was driven crazy by the fact that the system kept thinking I was on the tollway when I was underneath it; or the other way around.

Appreciate any advice, thanks

I've only used the Iphone as a GPS a short while, and like the Android map aps.. it's just not as refined as a dedicated GPS. You understand that all of its CPU power and whatnot that fits into a certain physical size is doing many more things on an Iphone than a dedicated GPS, and that the product isn't going to live or die by the map aps.. and it's not hard to see why dedicated GPS's are that much better. It will take a major GPS company putting out an ap for the Iphone and Droid systems to bring up the standard. And it appears Garmin is working on one, they've since dropped their Garminphone and rumor has itthey're concentrating heavily on aps for Iphones and Androids.. so maybe in the future.

About your questions specifically:

Knowing if you're on an Expressway or the surface roads. This is a map function. There is an altitude capability in most GPS units but the map needs to tap into it. The best map so far for Thailand is the ERSI map.. and it used to be really bad about this.. and it's gotten better but not perfect. This is one thing I noticed going to the Nuvi 3790t.. this issue is much less of a problem than with my Nuvi 855t, 350, or 1490.. The 3790t has a more powerful CPU and routing engine so maybe that's part of it.

Toll Roads. I haven't noticed any GPS in Thailand letting you know if it's tolls.. but with the Nuvi's you can elect to select toll roads as an "avoidance" and just avoid them. It's like the speed limit's which on most western mapsets are always present.. in Thailand they're only present on some of the roads. Like most things in Thailand the map set is significantly behind it's western competition.

Missing small streets. Have you tried increasing the detail level? The ERSI mapset used in the Nuvi's does show most all streets (other than recently build ones) except in the very rural areas.. then switching to another mapset might be helpful.

"Lane Assist" is a very handy feature in any major metropolitan area. And especially in Thailand where a wrong turn can add 30-40 minutes to your trip and corrupt policemen are standing at every intersection waiting for you to make a last minute lane correction and cross their real or imaginary lines.. Lane Assist on the newer models shows a blue function box in the upper left of the screen that shows the available lanes, and the lane you should be in for the next turn, and the distance to that next turn. Very useful. Less useful is "Junction VIew" which shows you an actual picture of the intersection with a guided arrow going through where you should travel. Both features together are nice, but be careful.. the lower end models don't have "speech to text" but might have both lane assist and junction view. Speech to text is the single most useful feature on any GPS so you get the road name (turn right on Soi 4 vs. turn right in 300 meters) without having to look at the GPS. Without it you're constantly looking at the gps wondering if you're turning at the right place and you'll constantly miss your turn.. Anything taking your eyes off the road is bad.. so text to speech is worth it's weight in gold. Lane Assist is a small function box that your eyes can see and interpret in the same amount of time it takes to check your review mirror so it's useful.. Junction View you need to study a few seconds and relate it to the real view.. so less useful and more dangerous IMO..

There are many reasons a dedicated GPS works better than a smartphone..

All is clear now - thanks for the great responses, esp BKKSW - I couldn't ask for any clearer or more helpful information!

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If you drive in Bangkok often then the high end Garmin nuvi GPS units, with lane assist and junction view, are worthwhile. Any Garmin model currently sold in Thailand, with Thailand Street Map included, will get the job done. The 4.3 or 5 inch screen units are easier to see at a glance. Check out this link to Eagle GPS, Chiang Mia for descriptions of Garmin units available in Thailand: Eagle GPS .

I bought my Garmin in the USA for about $120. Got a Rotweiler Thailand map for a "donation" of $100 as apposed to about $150.00 for a Garmin southeast asia map and it works just fine. And with Rotweiler you get free updates also which seem to come out every few months, while with Garmin there hasn't been an update in years and you'll probably have to pay another $150 for an update if another one ever comes out..

http://rotweilermaps.com/index.cfm

Anyone had any luck using addresses with GPSs? I've never been able to use addresses. If the place wasn't in the favorites, I've had to either just add it once I actually found the place or added it with lattitude and longitude coordinates which are rarely available as far as I know .

City Navigator Southeast Asia NT is currently priced at $99.99 USD and available for download or on microSD/SD card direct from Garmin. This Garmin map, which includes Thailand, has had at least 3 TeleAtlas and 2 NavTreq version updates in the last 3 years. NavTeq is currently supplying Garmin with maps.

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If you drive in Bangkok often then the high end Garmin nuvi GPS units, with lane assist and junction view, are worthwhile. Any Garmin model currently sold in Thailand, with Thailand Street Map included, will get the job done. The 4.3 or 5 inch screen units are easier to see at a glance. Check out this link to Eagle GPS, Chiang Mia for descriptions of Garmin units available in Thailand: Eagle GPS .

I bought my Garmin in the USA for about $120. Got a Rotweiler Thailand map for a "donation" of $100 as apposed to about $150.00 for a Garmin southeast asia map and it works just fine. And with Rotweiler you get free updates also which seem to come out every few months, while with Garmin there hasn't been an update in years and you'll probably have to pay another $150 for an update if another one ever comes out..

http://rotweilermaps.com/index.cfm

Anyone had any luck using addresses with GPSs? I've never been able to use addresses. If the place wasn't in the favorites, I've had to either just add it once I actually found the place or added it with lattitude and longitude coordinates which are rarely available as far as I know .

I have both the Rotweiler map and TSM11. At least in the areas surrounding Chiang Mai, TSM11 has a lot more detail in rural areas. TSM11 is greatly improved versus TSM10 in that regard (TSM10 had almost exactly the same amount of detail as the current Rotweiler map).

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I've had several gps's all garmin badged. Just recently i took delivery of a Garmin 62s mapping gps & have fallen in love with it. The sensor finds your location very fast and it has the ability to record all your tracks automatically on and off-road. The only downside of the 62s over the 60 csx mapping gps is they have done away with the distance remaining to the next turn function, which i think everyone finds very useful. The older garmin 60 csx model has this function and this model can still be bought new.

One huge plus of the garmin 62s gps is the wireless transfer function. If one person has the route on his 62s, he can send the routes/ waypoints & tracks to others who have a 62s gps wirelessley, we found it to be a very useful function last week in laos when the route in the jungle kept changing due to the rain.

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I've had several gps's all garmin badged. Just recently i took delivery of a Garmin 62s mapping gps & have fallen in love with it. The sensor finds your location very fast and it has the ability to record all your tracks automatically on and off-road. The only downside of the 62s over the 60 csx mapping gps is they have done away with the distance remaining to the next turn function, which i think everyone finds very useful. The older garmin 60 csx model has this function and this model can still be bought new.

One huge plus of the garmin 62s gps is the wireless transfer function. If one person has the route on his 62s, he can send the routes/ waypoints & tracks to others who have a 62s gps wirelessley, we found it to be a very useful function last week in laos when the route in the jungle kept changing due to the rain.

The best GPS for Thailand TOM_TOM and Thailand card,the card cost Euro 50

The best GPS for Thailand TOM_TOM and Thailand card,the card cost Euro 50

Are you saying you prefer a TomTom GPS device or that the TomTom (TeleAtlas) map is better?

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What's the difference between the Official Garmin maps and the maps you can buy in Pantip? I can get a Nuvi 1450LMT for about 5,000THB and the official Garmin SEA map for another 3,000THB. It has Lane Assist and Junction View built in.

What I mean is, other than that it will have the NA and SEA maps on it...is there any significant difference between the 1450 for 8,000THB and the Thai version 1460 with only Thai map for 10,000THB?

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What's the difference between the Official Garmin maps and the maps you can buy in Pantip? I can get a Nuvi 1450LMT for about 5,000THB and the official Garmin SEA map for another 3,000THB. It has Lane Assist and Junction View built in.

What I mean is, other than that it will have the NA and SEA maps on it...is there any significant difference between the 1450 for 8,000THB and the Thai version 1460 with only Thai map for 10,000THB?

If you want Junction View in Thailand you need the Thai OS version with the ESRI Thailand Street Map (TSM). As far as I know the Garmin SEA map does not have any junction views for Thailand. If you are not going to spend a lot of time driving in Bangkok, then junction view is not important to have. It is generally acknowledged that the TSM is a better overall map for driving in Thailand.

I am using a Marbella 880. I drive from Singapore to Chiang mai, 100% depends on my GPS..... I am just loving it!!

My trip report to share! http://roadtriptothailand.blogspot.com/ :)

I've had several gps's all garmin badged. Just recently i took delivery of a Garmin 62s mapping gps & have fallen in love with it. The sensor finds your location very fast and it has the ability to record all your tracks automatically on and off-road. The only downside of the 62s over the 60 csx mapping gps is they have done away with the distance remaining to the next turn function, which i think everyone finds very useful. The older garmin 60 csx model has this function and this model can still be bought new.

One huge plus of the garmin 62s gps is the wireless transfer function. If one person has the route on his 62s, he can send the routes/ waypoints & tracks to others who have a 62s gps wirelessley, we found it to be a very useful function last week in laos when the route in the jungle kept changing due to the rain.

The best GPS for Thailand TOM_TOM and Thailand card,the card cost Euro 50

I suppose which GPS unit you prefer is really a user preference. I can say that having owned both TomTom and Garmin GPS units, the Garmin operating system is far superior for me in terms of intuitiveness and using the system quickly, which of course is a major consideration if you are using a GPS whilst driving. The TomTom just seemed to take more user interaction, more taps on the display, and more moments of brain lapse trying to work out what to do next.

I can't speak for the TomTom maps, as I have only used my TomTom in Europe and North America, but I am completely happy with the detail and accuracy of the ESRI map that comes with the Garmin units sold in Thailand. I find the junction view feature very useful as well.

I don't have a dog in this fight, BUT, I do have the latest Garmin V 6.5 Navtech map, the Rotweiler map, Google map and the Nokia map for Thailand.

I do rely on my Garmin GPS and after traveling all around Thailand, The only map I trust is the native ESRI V 11.1 map.

It may not be perfect either but it is by far the best of the bunch. It is more accurate and has the most detail.

I was actually quite disgusted after paying the $99.95 price for the Navtech V 6.5 Garmin map. That was money thrown away.

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