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After the bombs, comes racism,  However some people are thinking ...stop, wait a minute.  Does St George actually exist?

Well does he?

All stories welcomed... google it eh?

He is the founder of this website & he definitely still exists -- he spoke to me a few days ago. It was an exhilarating experience.

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St George  ...  what about the Dragon ?  :o

So Dr ... Close the topic, cause St George is a part of my imagination....

Its like when they tell you in goverments offices that a St George Cross is racist, but yet an american, pakistani, etc flag can fly high...why is my St George racist?

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Come on Lopburi lighten up. Don't forget America is just another of our colonies. We shipped all the Sportsmen to Australia and the Phsyco's to America.

Ok, some like Superfly got on the wrong boat.

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I only know of George of the Jungle (hey, watch out for that...........tree !)

As for St George, well, the last pope pretty much proved that just about anybody can be a saint (John Paul almost created as many saints as all the previous popes put together)

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"Saint George"

The Pork Salesman who became England’s Patron Saint

Sources:

Edward Gibbon (The Decline& Fall of the Roman Empire, Chpt 23)

When dragons stalked the Earth ...

A Real Tyrant ...

'Every moment of his reign was polluted by cruelty and avarice. The Catholics of Alexandria and Egypt were abandoned to a tyrant, qualified , by nature and education, to exercise the office of persecution.'

– Edward Gibbon (The Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire, Chpt 23)

Poor Georgie – Sawn in Half!

Fictional 'saints' were given the vicious deaths actually experienced by heretics and unbelievers.

'Valencia altarpiece'

(V & A Museum, London)

– Perhaps helps to explain how it is that by the 8th century, at least 5 heads of St George were in existence!

The First George

The dubious Archbishop George of Cappadocia did at least have the advantage of definitely having existed, something that cannot be claimed with any veracity of the 'actual' St George.

"God for Harry! England and Saint George!"

Shakespeare, Henry V act 3, sc. 1, l. 31

St George's links with England are decidedly tenuous. Needless to say, there is no evidence at all to link him to the killing of a dragon.

In facti is there even any evidence that George himself existed? :D

Working backwards through the centuries of.........lots more :D

The large red Saint George's cross on a white ground remains still the ‘white ensign’ of the British Navy and it is also one of the elements which go to make up the Union "Jack".

Quite a success story for an unmitigated rogue – and bacon salesman.

Truth or fiction :o still a great story..... :D

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/george.html

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How about Lord George? My grandfather used to sing this song... "lord George knew my father, my father knew Lord George" repeat 100 times...  :o

It's actually "Lloyd George" refering to David Lloyd George a turn of the century (20th of course) Liberal party MP. Served for 55 years as MP for Carnarvon.

Still a more than somewhat boring ditty, to the tune of "Onward Christian Soldiers" if I remember correctly.

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I can dig that. cheers

Dig=

v. dug, (dg) dig·ging, digs

v. tr.

1. To break up, turn over, or remove (earth or sand, for example), as with a shovel, spade, or snout, or with claws, paws or hands.

2.

1. To make or form by removing earth or other material: dig a trench; dug my way out of the snow.

2. To prepare (soil) by loosening or cultivating.

3.

1. To obtain or unearth by digging: dig coal out of a seam; dug potatoes from a field.

2. To obtain or find by an action similar to digging: dug a dollar out of his pocket; dug the puck out of the corner.

4. To learn or discover by careful research or investigation: dug up the evidence; dug out the real facts.

5. To force down and into something; thrust: dug his foot in the ground.

6. To poke or prod: dug me in the ribs.

7. Sports. To strike or redirect (a ball) just before it hits the ground, as in tennis or volleyball.

8. Slang.

1. To understand fully: Do you dig what I mean?

2. To like, enjoy, or appreciate: “They really dig our music and, daddy, I dig swinging for them” (Louis Armstrong).

3. To take notice of: Dig that wild outfit.

v. intr.

1. To loosen, turn over, or remove earth or other material.

2. To make one's way by or as if by pushing aside or removing material: dug through the files.

3. Slang. To have understanding: Do you dig?

n.

1. A poke or thrust: a sharp dig in the ribs.

2. A sarcastic, taunting remark; a gibe.

3. An archaeological excavation.

4. Sports. An act or an instance of digging a ball.

5. digs Lodgings.

Phrasal Verb:

dig in

1. To dig trenches for protection.

2. To hold on stubbornly, as to a position; entrench oneself.

3.

1. To begin to work intensively.

2. To begin to eat heartily.

Idioms:

dig in (one's) heels

To resist opposition stubbornly; refuse to yield or compromise.

dig it out

Slang To run as fast as one can, especially as a base runner in baseball.

[Middle English diggen; perhaps akin to Old French digue, dike, trench; see dhgw- in Indo-European Roots. V., tr., sense 8 and intr., sense 3, perhaps influenced by Wolof degg, to hear, find out, understand or Irish Gaelic tuigim, I understand.]

Our Living Language In its slang sense of “to enjoy,” dig is one of the many words and expressions that come from African American Vernacular English (AAVE). Like cool, it is first recorded in 1930s jazz circles. While several AAVE expressions that have entered standard English from jazz still have musical associations, many others do not, and quite a few are so ordinary today that their origin in AAVE is not at all obvious. Some are no longer regarded as slang, such as badmouth, cakewalk, nitty-gritty, and main man. Others, like fox, “sexy woman,” gig, and chump change are still slang or informal.

Sits quietly like an Englishman would...dig....

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