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Hezbollah speaks for itself and raising the subject of war is intended to redirect attention away from the pending arrest warrants of its leadership. This isn't about Israel or the plight of aggrieved arabs lin the region. It's all about protecting its political turf. Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah recently announcing that hezbollah will not allow the arrests of any of its members if they are indicted by investigators into the 2005 killing of former lebanese Prime Minister Hariri. The Lebanese tribunal (backed by the UN and with support from the region's arab countries, excluding Syria and non arab Iran) is expected to indict members of the Hezbollah leadership by year end. Hezbollah has threatened to bring down the Lebanese government should the criminal charges be brought Last week Mr. Nasrallah told supporters inBeirut. "Any hand that will touch any of them will be cut off." This is hardly someone that supports fair judicial process or peace.

The murder of the former Lebanese PM and the continued violent intimidation and extortion tactics of Hezbollah in Lebanon has nothing to do with Israel. It's all about serving the political interests of Syria and Iran.

If people want to have a "we hate Israel thread" go for it, spew your venom to your heart's content. However, Israel didn't asssassinate the former PM of Lebanon and Israel didn't assist Hezbollah when it attacked the Lebanese public authorities. I think what we are seeing is the laying of the foundation for civil war in Lebanon once again. Civil war is not in the best interests of the Lebanese population, nor Israel as a collapse of a central government means that Hezbollah and others will not even have to pay attention to the UN peacekeepers. As it is, Hezbollah has a free hand in its stronghold of southern Lebanon where it has successfully made many communities Christian free.

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You need to be more specific - and provide credible links - but it is not "my cause".

However, how does Hamas blowing up buses full of children further your cause? :whistling:

Can you give a specific about hamas blowing up busses of children ???

your plural.

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Because Iran is so sweet and innocent, they would never wish any harm upon anyone. Just the open threat and determination to wipe out Israel at the moment.

You forget to mention that Iran had a democratically elected government under Prime Minister Mossadeg - one of the good guys:

"From an aristocratic background, Mosaddegh was an author, administrator, lawyer, prominent parliamentarian, and politician, famous for his passionate opposition to foreign intervention in Iran. During his time as prime minister, a wide range of progressive social reforms were carried out. Unemployment compensation was introduced, factory owners were ordered to pay benefits to sick and injured workers, and peasants were freed from forced labour in their landlords' estates. Twenty percent of the money landlords received in rent was placed in a fund to pay for development projects such as public baths, rural housing, and pest control"

Unfortunately he had the temerity to claim Iran's oil reserves for Iran which pissed off both the US and the UK. He was overthrown in a coup in 1953 and was replaces by the UK/US sponsored Shah and his secret police/torturers SAVAK.

It was the west's intervention that eventually encouraged the return of the Ayatollah Khoeimini and the establishment of an Islamic Republic after the deposition of the Shah.

If you want to understand a country it's good to know a little of its history. If you fiddle with other people's futures you can't complain too much when they kick you in the nuts.

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You need to be more specific - and provide credible links - but it is not "my cause".

However, how does Hamas blowing up buses full of children further your cause? :whistling:

I apologise, agreed not your cause, however how does the collective punishment of Palestinian kids, for their fathers " errors" fit to the ethos of Israel ??

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Because Iran is so sweet and innocent, they would never wish any harm upon anyone. Just the open threat and determination to wipe out Israel at the moment.

You forget to mention that Iran had a democratically elected government under Prime Minister Mossadeg - one of the good guys:

"From an aristocratic background, Mosaddegh was an author, administrator, lawyer, prominent parliamentarian, and politician, famous for his passionate opposition to foreign intervention in Iran. During his time as prime minister, a wide range of progressive social reforms were carried out. Unemployment compensation was introduced, factory owners were ordered to pay benefits to sick and injured workers, and peasants were freed from forced labour in their landlords' estates. Twenty percent of the money landlords received in rent was placed in a fund to pay for development projects such as public baths, rural housing, and pest control"

Unfortunately he had the temerity to claim Iran's oil reserves for Iran which pissed off both the US and the UK. He was overthrown in a coup in 1953 and was replaces by the UK/US sponsored Shah and his secret police/torturers SAVAK.

It was the west's intervention that eventually encouraged the return of the Ayatollah Khoeimini and the establishment of an Islamic Republic after the deposition of the Shah.

If you want to understand a country it's good to know a little of its history. If you fiddle with other people's futures you can't complain too much when they kick you in the nuts.

I am sorry can you please tell me again what events from 1953 have to do with 2010? and how West is responsible for Mahmūd Ahmadinezhād and his policy's

Can you also please explain to me how being islamic State has anything to do with the thread and Israel?

Are there no other Islamic States? who do not want to destroy Israel?

Since you such a supporter of Iran, with so much knowledge, why do not you live there?!

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You need to be more specific - and provide credible links - but it is not "my cause".

However, how does Hamas blowing up buses full of children further your cause? :whistling:

I apologise, agreed not your cause, however how does the collective punishment of Palestinian kids, for their fathers " errors" fit to the ethos of Israel ??

Excuse me, but this thread is on Hezbollah. Rather than debate the legitimacy of your allegation, I ask how does this have anything to do with Hezbollah using war with Israel as a pretext to direct attention away for the anticipated indictments for the murder of the Lebanese Prime Minister? Do you deny Hezbllah's threats in respect to the judicial tribumal?

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Just for the record of those who seek the facts

November 2000-Bombing attack on a school bus carrying Jewish settler children. The bomb killed two Israeli adults - a teacher and a maintenance official - and injured at least five children.

October 2002-suicide attack on a bus in northern Israel which killed at least 15 people, including the bomber.

March 2003-Palestinian suicide bombing of a bus which killed at least 15 people, many of them students.

August 2003-The Shmuel HaNavi bus bombing,the suicide bombing of a crowded public bus,Twenty-three people were killed and over 130 wounded. Many of the victims were children. [1]The Islamist militant group Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Suicide and Other Bombing Attacks in Israel, does not include all the rockets being fired into Israel

Apr 6, 1994 - Eight people were killed in a car-bomb attack on a bus in the center of Afula. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 13, 1994 - Five people were killed in a suicide bombing attack on a bus in the central bus station of Hadera. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 19, 1994 - In a suicide bombing attack on the No. 5 bus on Dizengoff Street in Tel-Aviv, 21 Israelis and one Dutch national were killed.

Nov 11, 1994 - Three soldiers were killed at the Netzarim junction in the Gaza Strip when a Palestinian riding a bicycle detonated explosives strapped to his body. Islamic Jihad said it carried out the attack to avenge the car bomb killing of Islamic Jihad leader Hani Abed on Nov 2.

Jan 22, 1995 - Two consecutive bombs exploded at the Beit Lid junction near Netanya, killing 20 soldiers and one civilian. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 9, 1995 - Seven Israelis and one American were killed when a bus was hit by an explosives-laden van near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jul 24, 1995 - Six civilians were killed in a suicide bomb attack on a bus in Ramat Gan.

Aug 21, 1995 - Three Israelis and one American were killed in a suicide bombing of a Jerusalem bus.

Feb 25, 1996 - In a suicide bombing of bus No. 18 near the Central Bus Station in Jerusalem, 26 were killed (17 civilians and 9 soldiers). Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 25, 1996 - One Israeli was killed in an explosion set off by a suicide bomber at a hitchhiking post oustide Ashkelon. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 3, 1996 - In a suicide bombing of bus No. 18 on Jaffa Road in Jerusalem, 19 were killed (16 civilians and 3 soldiers).

Mar 4, 1996 - Outside Dizengoff Center in Tel-Aviv, a suicide bomber detonated a 20-kilogram nail bomb, killing 13 (12 civilians and one soldier).

Mar 21, 1997 - Three people were killed when a suicide bomber detonated a bomb on the terrace of a Tel Aviv cafe. 48 people were wounded.

Jul 30, 1997 - 16 people were killed and 178 wounded in two consecutive suicide bombings in the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem.

Sep 4, 1997 - Five people were killed and 181 wounded in three suicide bombings on the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall in Jerusalem.

Oct 29, 1998 - One Israeli soldier was killed when a terrorist drove an explosives-laden car into an Israeli army jeep escorting a bus with 40 elementary school students from the settlement of Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip.

Nov 2, 2000 - Ayelet Shahar Levy, 28, and Hanan Levy, 33, were killed in a car bomb explosion near the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem. 10 people were injured. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 20, 2000 - A roadside bomb exploded at 7:30 in the morning alongside a bus carrying children from Kfar Darom to school in Gush Katif. Miriam Amitai, 35, and Gavriel Biton, 34, were killed and 9 others, including 5 children, were injured, 5 of them seriously.

Nov 22, 2000 - Shoshanna Reis, 21, of Hadera, and Meir Bahrame, 35, of Givat Olga, were killed, and 60 wounded when a powerful car bomb was denotated alongside a passing bus on Hadera's main street, when the area was packed with shoppers and people driving home from work.

Dec 22, 2000 - Three soldiers were injured in a suicide bomb attack at the Mehola Junction roadside cafe in the northern Jordan Valley. The terrorist, who detonated a belt of explosives strapped to him, was killed in the blast.

Jan 1, 2001 - A car bomb exploded near a bus stop in the shopping district in the center of Netanya. About 60 people were injured, most lightly. One unidentified person, apparently one of the terrorists involved in the bombing, died of severe burns. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 8, 2001 - A powerful car bomb exploded at 4:40 PM in the ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Beit Yisrael in Jerusalem, causing mild injuries to four people.

Feb 14, 2001 - Eight people were killed and 25 injured when a bus driven by a Palestinian terrorist plowed into a group of soldiers and civilians waiting at a bus stop near Holon, south of Tel-Aviv.

Mar 1, 2001 - One person was killed and 9 injured when a terrorist detonated a bomb in a Tel Aviv to Tiberias service taxi at the Mei Ami junction in Wadi Ara.

Mar 4, 2001 - Three people were killed and at least 60 injured in a suicide bombing in downtown Netanya.

Mar 27, 2001 - A car bomb exploded at 7:40 in the morning in the Talpiot industrial/commercial zone in Jerusalem. Seven people were injured, one moderately. The Islamic Jihad has claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 27, 2001 - 28 people were injured, two seriously, in a suicide bombing directed against a northbound No. 6 bus at the French Hill junction in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 28, 2001 - Two teenagers were killed and four injured, one critically, in a suicide bombing at the Mifgash Hashalom ("peace stop") gas station several hundred meters from an IDF roadblock near the entrance to Kalkilya, east of Kfar Saba. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 22, 2001 - A terrorist detonated a powerful bomb he was carrying near a group of people waiting at a bus stop on the corner of Weizman and Tchernichovsky streets in Kfar Sava. One person was killed and about 60 injured in the blast, two severely. The terrorist was also killed in the explosion, for which Hamas claimed responsibility.

Apr 23, 2001 - Eight people were lightly hurt in a car bombing in Or Yehuda, a few kilometers north of Ben-Gurion Airport, which senior police officers said could only be described as a "miracle" in an area packed with pre-Independence Day shoppers.

Apr 29, 2001 - A car bomb blew up close to a school bus travelling near the West Bank city of Nablus. There were no injuries in the attack. The body of the suicide bomber was found in the car. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 18, 2001 - A Palestinian suicide bomber wearing an explosive vest detonated himself outside the Hasharon Shopping Mall in the seaside city of Netanya. Five civilians were killed and over 100 wounded in the attack. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 25, 2001 - 65 people were injured in a car bombing in the Hadera central bus station. The two terrorists were apparently killed in the explosion. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

May 27, 2001 - A car bomb exploded in the center of Jerusalem shortly after midnight. There were no injuries. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility.

A bomb exploded at 9:00 in the morning near the intersection of the capital's main Jaffa Road and Heshin Street. The bomb included several mortar shells, some of which were propelled hundreds of meters from the site of the explosion. 30 people were injured, most suffering from shock. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

May 30, 2001 - A car bomb exploded shortly before 16:00 outside a school in Netanya while a number of students were still in the building studying for matriculation exams. Eight people were injured, suffering from shock and hearing impairment. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

June 1, 2001 - 21 people were killed and 120 wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a disco near Tel Aviv's Dolphinarium along the seafront promenade just before midnight on Friday, June 1, while standing in a large group of teenagers waiting to enter the disco.

June 22, 2001 - Sgt. Aviv Iszak, 19, of Kfar Saba, and Sgt. Ofir Kit, 19, of Jerusalem, were killed near Dugit in the Gaza Strip as a jeep with yellow Israeli license plates, supposedly stuck in the sand, blew up as they approached. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 2, 2001 - Two separate bombs exploded at about 8:20 Monday morning in cars in the Tel-Aviv suburb of Yehud. Six pedestrians were lightly injured. Police sources say the bombs were probably set by terrorists. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a radical PLO faction, claimed responsibility.

July 9, 2001 - A Palestinian suicide bomber was killed in a car-bombing attack near the Kissufim crossing point in the southern Gaza Strip, causing no other casualties. Disaster was averted as the bomb exploded without hitting any other vehicles. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 16, 2001 - Cpl. Hanit Arami, 19, and St.Sgt. Avi Ben Harush, 20, both of Zichron Yaakov, were killed and 11 wounded - 3 seriously - when a bomb exploded in a suicide terrorist attack at a bus stop near the train station in Binyamina, halfway between Netanya and Haifa, at about 19:30 Monday evening. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 8, 2001 - A suicide bomber was killed when he detonated his car bomb, lightly wounding one soldier, at a roadblock near the B'kaot moshav in the northern Jordan Valley shortly after 9:00. One soldier was lightly wounded.

Aug 9, 2001 - 15 people were killed, including 7 children, and about 130 injured in a suicide bombing at the Sbarro pizzeria on the corner of King George Street and Jaffa Road in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas and the Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 12, 2001 - 21 people were injured in a suicide bombing in the Wall Street Cafe in the center of Kiryat Motzkin at 17:30. The terrorist was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 21, 2001 - A bomb placed under a car exploded at 14:15 near the Russian Compound in downtown Jerusalem; one woman was treated for shock. A second, very large unexploded bomb was discovered inside the car and dismantled.

Sept 4, 2001 - 20 people were injured when a suicide terrorist exploded a powerful charge on Hanevi'im Street near Bikur Holim hospital in central Jerusalem shortly before 8:00 AM. The terrorist, disguised as a Jew in ultra-orthodox clothing, aroused the suspicion of passersby due to the large backpack he was wearing. As two Border Police officers approached the man, he detonated his shrapnel-packed bomb. Both officers were wounded - one critically. The terrorist was killed in the blast. Hamas claimed responsibility.

Sept 9, 2001 - Three people were killed and some 90 injured, most lightly, in a suicide bombing near the Nahariya train station in northern Israel. The terrorist, killed in the blast, waited nearby until the train arrived from Tel-Aviv and people were exiting the station, and then exploded the bomb he was carrying. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 9, 2001 - A car bomb exploded at the Beit Lid junction near Netanya, injuring 17 people. One person killed in the explosion is believed to be the terrorist bomber.

Oct 1, 2001 - A large car bomb exploded in the Talpiot neighborhood of Jerusalem. Several people were lightly injured.

Oct 7, 2001 - Yair Mordechai, 43, of Kibbutz Sheluhot was killed when a Palestinian suicide terrorist affiliated with the Islamic Jihad detonated a large bomb strapped to his body near the entrance of the kibbutz in the Beit She'an Valley.

Nov 26, 2001 - A Palestinian suicide bomber killed himself and lightly wounded two Border Policemen at the Erez crossing point in the Gaza Strip. The bomber joined workers waiting to be cleared for entry into Israel. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 29, 2001 - Three people were killed and nine others were wounded in a suicide bombing on an Egged 823 bus en route from Nazereth to Tel Aviv near the city of Hadera. The Islamic Jihad and Fatah claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 1, 2001 - 11 people were killed and about 180 injured when explosive devices were detonated by two suicide bombers close to 11:30 P.M. Saturday night on Ben Yehuda Street, the pedestrian mall in the center of Jerusalem. A car bomb exploded nearby 20 minutes later. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 2, 2001 - 15 people were killed and 40 injured, several critically, in a suicide bombing on an Egged bus No. 16 in Haifa shortly after 12:00. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 5, 2001 - A suicide bomber exploded a powerful bomb shortly after 7:30 AM on King David Street in Jerusalem. A number of people waiting at a nearby bus stop were lightly injured. The terrorist was killed in the blast. Police are investigating whether the bomb, packed with nails and shrapnel, went off prematurely. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

Dec 9, 2001 - A suicide bomber exploded a powerful bomb near a bus stop at the Checkpost Junction in Haifa shortly after 7:30 AM. About 30 people were injured, most lightly and suffering from shock. A second explosive device was found and detonated nearby. The terrorist was killed.

Dec 12, 2001 - Four people traveling in two cars were lightly wounded in an attack at 18:00 PM by two suicide bombers near the Gaza Strip community of Neve Dekalim.

Jan 25, 2002 - 25 people were wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber detonated explosives outside a cafe on a pedestrian mall near Tel Aviv's old central bus station at 11:15 AM on Friday.

Jan 27, 2002 - Pinhas Tokatli, 81, of Jerusalem was killed and over 150 people were wounded, four seriously, in a suicide bombing on Jaffa Road, in the center of Jerusalem, shortly before 12:30. The female terrorist, identified as a Fatah member, was armed with more than 10 kilos of explosives.

Feb 16, 2002 - Two teenagers were killed and about 30 people were wounded, six seriously, when a suicide bomber blew himself up on Saturday night at a pizzeria in the shopping mall in Karnei Shomron in Samaria. A third person subsequently died of his injuries. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 18, 2002 - Policeman Ahmed Mazarib, 32, of the Bedouin village Beit Zarzir in the Galilee, was killed by a suicide bomber whom he had stopped for questioning on the Ma'ale Adumim-Jerusalem road. The terrorist succeeded in detonating the bomb in his car. The Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 27, 2002 - A Palestinian suicide bomber blew herself up at the Maccabim roadblock on the Jerusalem-Modi'in highway Wednesday night, injuring three policemen.

Mar 2, 2002 - Eleven people were killed and over 50 were injured, 4 critically, in a suicide bombing at 19:15 on Saturday evening near a yeshiva in the ultra-Orthodox Beit Yisrael neighborhood in the center of Jerusalem where people had gathered for a bar-mitzva celebration. The terrorist detonated the bomb next to a group of women waiting with their baby carriages for their husbands to leave the nearby synagogue. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade took responsibility for the attack.

Mar 5, 2002 - Maharatu Tagana, 85, of Upper Nazareth was killed and a large number of people injured, most lightly, when a suicide bomber exploded in an Egged No. 823 bus as it entered the Afula central bus station. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 7, 2002 - A suicide bomber blew himself up in the lobby of a hotel in the commericial center on the outskirts of Ariel in Samaria. 15 people were injured, one seriously. The PFLP claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 9, 2002 - 11 people were killed and 54 injured, 10 of them seriously, when a suicide bomber exploded at 22:30 PM Saturday night in the crowded Moment cafe at the corner of Aza and Ben-Maimon streets in the Rehavia neighborhood in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 17, 2002 - A suicide bomber exploded himself near an Egged bus no. 22 at the French Hill junction in northern Jerusalem. 25 people were lightly injured.

Mar 20, 2002 - Seven people, four of them soldiers, were killed and about 30 wounded, several seriously, in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus No. 823 traveling from Tel Aviv to Nazareth at the Musmus junction on Highway 65 (Wadi Ara) near Afula. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 21, 2002 - Three people were killed and 86 injured, 3 of them seriously, in a suicide bombing on King George Street in the center of Jerusalem. The terrorist detonated the bomb, packed with metal spikes and nails, in the center of a crowd of shoppers. The Fatah al-Aqsa Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 27, 2002 - 30 people were killed and 140 injured - 20 seriously - in a suicide bombing in the Park Hotel in the coastal city of Netanya, in the midst of the Passover holiday seder with 250 guests. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. The terrorist was a member of Hamas from Tulkarem, on the list of wanted terrorists Israel had requested be arrested.

Mar 29, 2002 - Two people were killed and 28 injured, two seriously when a female suicide bomber blew herself up in the Kiryat Yovel supermarket in Jerusalem. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 30, 2002 - One person was killed and about 30 people were injured in a suicide bombing in a cafe on the corner of Allenby and Bialik streets in Tel-Aviv. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 31, 2002 - 15 people were killed and over 40 injured in a suicide bombing in Haifa, in the Matza restaurant of the gas station near the Grand Canyon shopping mall. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 31, 2002 - An MDA paramedic was very seriously injured along with three other people at 17:00 Sunday afternoon in a suicide bombing at the emergency medical center in Efrat, in the Gush Etzion bloc south of Jerusalem.

Apr 1, 2002 - A police officer was killed in Jerusalem when a Palestinian suicide bomber heading toward the city center blew himself up in his car after being stopped at a roadblock. The Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 10, 2002 - Eight people were killed and 22 injured in a suicide bombing on Egged bus #960, en route from Haifa to Jerusalem, which exploded near Kibbutz Yagur, east of Haifa. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 12, 2002 - Six people were killed and 104 wounded when a woman suicide bomber detonated a powerful charge at a bus stop on Jaffa road at the entrance to Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda open-air market. The Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 7, 2002 - 16 people were killed and 55 wounded in a crowded game club in Rishon Lezion, southeast of Tel-Aviv, when a suicide bomber detonated a powerful charge in the 3rd floor club, causing part of the building to collapse. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 19, 2002 - Three people were killed and 59 injured - 10 seriously - when a suicide bomber, disguised as a soldier, blew himself up in the market in Netanya. Both Hamas and the PFLP took responsibility for the attack.

May 20, 2002 - A suicide bomber, apparently bound for Afula, killed himself after Border Policemen approached him for questioning at a bus stop. There were no other injuries.

May 22, 2002 - Two people were killed and about 40 wounded when a suicide bomber detonated himself in the Rothschild Street downtown pedestrian mall of Rishon Lezion.

May 23, 2002 - A bomb planted by terrorists exploded underneath a fuel truck at the Pi Glilot fuel depot north of Tel Aviv. The truck burst into flames, but the blaze was quickly contained.

May 24, 2002 - A security guard opened fire on a terrorist attempting to ram a car bomb into the Studio 49 Disco in Tel Aviv. The terrorist was killed and five Israelis slightly injured when the bomb exploded prematurely.

May 27, 2002 - A grandmother and her infant granddaughter were killed and 37 people were injured, some seriously, when a suicide bomber detonated himself near an ice cream parlor outside a shopping mall in Petah Tikva. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 5, 2002 - 17 people were killed and 38 injured when a car packed with a large quantity of explosives struck Egged bus No. 830 traveling from Tel-Aviv to Tiberias at the Megiddo junction near Afula. The bus, which burst into flames, was completely destroyed. The terrorist was killed in the blast. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 11, 2002 - A 14-year-old girl was killed and 15 others were wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber set off a relatively small pipe bomb at a shwarma restaurant in Herzliya.

June 18, 2002 - 19 people were killed and 74 injured - six seriously - in a suicide bombing at the Patt junction in Egged bus no. 32A traveling from Gilo to the center of Jerusalem. The bus, which was completely destroyed, was carrying many students on their way to school. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 19, 2002 - Seven people were killed and 50 injured - three of them in critical condition - when a suicide bomber blew himself up at a crowded bus stop and hitchhiking post at the French Hill intersection in northern Jerusalem shortly after 7:00 P.M., as people were returning home from work. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 16, 2002 - Nine people were killed and 20 injured in a terrorist attack on Dan bus no. 189 traveling from Bnei Brak to Emmanuel in Samaria. An explosive charge was detonated next to the bullet-resistant bus. The terrorists waited in ambush, reportedly wearing IDF uniforms, and opened fire on the bus. While four terror organizations claimed responsibility for the attack, it was apparently carried out by the same Hamas cell which carried out the attack in Emmanuel on Dec 12, 2001.

July 17, 2002 - Five people were killed - two Israeli and three foreign workers - and about 40 were injured, four seriously, in a double suicide bombing on Neve Shaanan Street near the old central bus station in Tel Aviv. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 30, 2002 - Five people suffered light to moderate injuries in a suicide bombing at a felafel stand on Hanevi'im Street in the center of Jerusalem. The bomber, who was killed, apparently exploded prematurely.

July 31, 2002 - Nine people were killed and 85 wounded, 14 of them seriously, when a bomb exploded in the Frank Sinatra student center cafeteria on the Hebrew University's Mt. Scopus campus. The explosive device was planted inside the cafeteria, which was gutted by the explosion. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 4, 2002 - Nine people were killed and some 50 wounded in a suicide bombing of Egged bus No. 361 traveling from Haifa to Safed at the Meron junction in northern Israel. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 5, 2002 - A bomb exploded in a car at the Umm al-Fahm junction in northern Israel, killing the terrorist and wounding the driver, an Arab Israeli resident of Nazareth.

Sept 18, 2002 - Police Sgt. Moshe Hezkiyah, 21, of Elyachin was killed and three people were wounded in a suicide bombing at a bus stop at the Umm al Fahm junction. The terrorist, who was apparently planning to detonate the bomb after boarding a bus, set the charge off early when approached by the police for questioning. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 19, 2002 - Six people were killed and about 70 wounded when a terrorist detonated a bomb in Dan bus No. 4 on Allenby Street, opposite the Great Synagogue in Tel-Aviv. Hamas claimed responsbility for the attack.

Oct 10, 2002 - Sa'ada Aharon, 71, of Ramat Gan was killed and about 30 people were wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up while trying to board Dan bus No. 87 across from Bar-Ilan University on the Geha highway (Route 4). Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 21, 2002 - 14 people were killed and some 50 wounded when a car bomb containing about 100 kilograms of explosives was detonated next to a No. 841 Egged bus from Kiryat Shmona to Tel-Aviv, while traveling along Wadi Ara on Route No. 65 toward Hadera. The bus had pulled over at a bus stop when the suicide bomber, from Jenin, driving a jeep, approached from behind and exploded. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 27, 2002 - Two IDF officers and a non-commissioned officer were killed and about 20 people were wounded in a suicide bombing at the Sonol gas station at the entrance to Ariel in Samaria. The victims were killed while trying to prevent the terrorist from detonating the bomb. The terrorist was identified as a member of Hamas.

Nov 4, 2002 - Two people - a security guard and a teenage boy, both recent immigrants from Argentina - were killed and about 70 were wounded in a suicide bombing at a shopping mall in Kfar Sava. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 21, 2002 - Eleven people were killed and some 50 wounded by a suicide bomber on a No. 20 Egged bus on Mexico Street in the Kiryat Menahem neighborhood of Jerusalem. The bus was filled with passengers, including schoolchildren, traveling toward the center of the city during rush hour. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 5, 2003 - Twenty-two people were killed and about 120 wounded in a double suicide bombing near the old Central Bus Station in Tel-Aviv. The attack was apparently carried out by two members of the Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, with the help of the Islamic Jihad.

Mar 5, 2003 - Seventeen people were killed and 53 wounded in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus #37 on Moriah Blvd. in the Carmel section of Haifa, en route to Haifa University. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 30, 2003 - Over 40 people were wounded in a suicide bombing on the pedestrian mall at the entrance to the London Cafe in the center of Netanya. The bomber was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 24, 2003 - Alexander Kostyuk, a 23-year-old security guard from Bat Yam, was killed and 13 were wounded, two seriously, in a suicide bombing outside the train station in Kfar Sava. Groups related to the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and the PFLP clamied joint responsibility for the attack.

Apr 30, 2003 - Three people were killed and about 60 peoople were wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up at a beachfront pub "Mike's Place" in Tel Aviv. The Fatah Tanzim and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, carried out as a joint operation. Investigation revealed that the two British Muslims involved in the suicide bombing were dispatched to perpetrate the attack by the Hamas military command in the Gaza Strip.

May 17, 2003 - Gadi Levy and his wife Dina, aged 31 and 37, of Kiryat Arba were killed by a suicide bomber in Hebron. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 18, 2003 - Seven people were killed and 20 wounded in a suicide bombing on Egged bus no. 6 near French Hill in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Steve Averbach died on June 3, 2010, succumbing to wounds suffered in the suicide bombing, bringing the death toll to eight.

A second suicide bomber detonated his bomb when intercepted by police in northern Jerusalem. The terrorist was killed; no one else was injured.

May 19, 2003 - Three IDF soldiers were lightly injured when a Palestinian on a bicycle detonated explosives next to a military jeep near Kfar Darom in the southern Gaza Strip. The bomber was killed. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 19, 2003 - Three people were killed and about 70 wounded in a suicide bombing at the entrance to the Amakim Mall in Afula. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades both claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 22, 2003 - Nine Israelis were injured when a roadside bomb was detonated next to a bus near Netzarim in the Gaza Strip.

June 11, 2003 - Seventeen people were killed and over 100 wounded in a suicide bombing on Egged bus #14A outside the Clal building on Jaffa Road in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 19, 2003 - Avner Mordechai, 58, of Moshav Sde Trumot, was killed when a suicide bomber blew up in his grocery on Sde Trumot, south of Beit Shean. The suicide bomber was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 7, 2003 - Mazal Afari, 65, of Moshav Kfar Yavetz was killed in her home on Monday evening and three of her grandchildren lightly wounded in a terrorist suicide bombing. The remains of the bomber were also found in the wreckage of the house. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 12, 2003 - Erez Hershkovitz, 18, of Eilon Moreh, was killed and three people wounded when a teenaged Palestinian suicide bomber detonated himself at a bus stop outside Ariel. Amatzia Nisanevitch, 22, of Nofim, died of his wounds on August 28.

Aug 19, 2003 - Twenty-three people were killed and over 130 wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber detonated himself on a No. 2 Egged bus in Jerusalem's Shmuel Hanavi neighborhood. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 9, 2003 - Nine IDF soldiers were killed and 30 people were wounded in a suicide bombing at a hitchhiking post for soldier outside a main entrance to the Tzrifin army base and Assaf Harofeh Hospital. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 9, 2003 - Seven people were killed and over 50 wounded in a suicide bombing at Cafe Hillel on Emek Refaim St., the main thoroughfare of the German Colony neighborhood in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 4, 2003 - Twenty-one people were killed, including four children, and 60 wounded in a suicide bombing carried out by a female terrorist from Jenin in the Maxim restaurant in Haifa. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 9, 2003 - A Palestinian suicide bomber exploded himself at the DCO located at the entrance to Tulkarm. The bomber approached the reception window and exploded himself, injuring two IDF soldiers and a Palestinian.

Oct 15, 2003 - Three Americans were killed and one wounded at the Beit Hanoun junction in the Gaza Strip when a massive bomb demolished an armor-plated jeep in a convoy carrying U.S. diplomats.

Nov 3, 2003 - A suicide bomber blew himself up in the West Bank village of Azun, near Kafr Qasem, when he saw Israeli security officials searching for him. One IDF soldier was lightly wounded. The Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade claimed responsibility for the failed attack.

Dec 25, 2003 - Four Israelis were killed and over 20 wounded in a suicide bombing at a bus stop at the Geha Junction, east of Tel Aviv, near Petah Tikva. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 14, 2004 - Four Israelis - three soldiers and one civilian - were killed and 10 wounded when a female suicide bomber detonated a bomb at the Erez Crossing in the Gaza Strip. Hamas and the Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed joint responsibility for the attack.

Jan 29, 2004 - Eleven people were killed and over 50 wounded, 13 of them seriously, in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus no. 19 at the corner of Gaza and Arlozorov streets in Jerusalem. The Fatah-related Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack, naming the bomber as Ali Yusuf Jaara, a 24-year-old Palestinian policeman from Bethlehem.

Feb 22, 2004 - Eight people were killed and over 60 wounded, 11 of them school pupils, in a suicide bombing on Jerusalem bus no. 14A near the Liberty Bell Park. The Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack, which was carried out by Mohammed Za'ul, from the Bethlehem area.

Mar 6, 2004 - Two Palestinian policemen were killed in a terror attack on the Erez crossing in northern Gaza involving rifle fire and suicide car bombs, including jeeps camouflaged as IDF vehicles. Two of the vehicles exploded on the Palestinian side of the crossing, and four terrorists were killed. There were no IDF casualties. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the military wing of Fatah all claimed responsibility.

Mar 14, 2004 - Ten people were killed and 16 wounded in a double suicide bombing at Ashdod Port. Hamas and Fatah claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 17, 2004 - Border Policeman Sgt. Kfir Ohayon, 20, of Eilat was killed, three others wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up at the Erez Crossing. Hamas and Fatah claimed joint responsibility for the attack.

May 22, 2004 - A suicide bomber was killed when he detonated an explosive device at the Bekaot checkpoint in the northern Jordan Valley. The commander of the IDF checkpoint was lightly injured, as well as several Palestinians. The PFLP claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 11, 2004 - Sgt. Ma'ayan Na'im, 19, of Bat Yam, was killed and 33 wounded when a bomb exploded at a bus stop in downtown Tel Aviv at about 7 a.m. One person was critically wounded, four were moderately wounded, and the rest were lightly hurt.

Aug 11, 2004 - Two Palestinian bystanders were killed and 18 people were wounded, including six Border Policemen, when a bomb was detonated south of the Qalandiyah checkpoint at the northern entrance to Jerusalem.

Aug 31, 2004 - Sixteen people were killed and 100 wounded in two suicide bombings within minutes of each other on two Beersheba city buses, on route nos. 6 and 12. The buses were traveling along Beersheba's main street, Rager Blvd, near the city hall. Hamas in Hebron claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 8, 2004 - A booby-trapped car exploded next to Israeli security personnel at the Baka al-Sharkiyeh checkpoint, near the Green Line border with the West Bank. The Palestinian driver of the car was killed in the blast. The Fatah-related Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 14, 2004 - A suicide bomber riding on a bicycle blew himself up near an armored IDF jeep at an agricultural gate, south of Qalqilyah, injuring two IDF soldiers.

Sept 22, 2004 - Two Border Policemen were killed and 17 Israelis wounded in a suicide bombing carried out by a female terrorist at the French Hill junction hitchhiking post in northern Jerusalem. The Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 7, 2004 - A total of 32 people were killed in terror bombings at two Sinai holiday resorts frequented by Israelis: 29 at the Taba Hilton and three at Ras a-Satan. Among the dead were 12 Israelis; over 120 were wounded.

Nov 1, 2004 - Three people were killed and over 30 wounded in a suicide bombing at the Carmel Market in central Tel Aviv. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in Nablus claimed responsibility for the attack, carried out by Amar Alfar, 18, from Askar refugee camp in Nablus.

Dec 7, 2004 - St.-Sgt. Nadav Kudinsky, 20, of Kiryat Gat of the Oketz canine unit was killed by a bomb, along with his dog, when a booby-trapped chicken coup exploded northwest of the Karni Corssing in the Gaza Strip. Four soldiers were wounded in the exchange of fire while evacuating him. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 5, 2005 - A terrorist infiltrated the Erez crossing terminal in the Gaza Strip, activated an explosive device, hurled grenades and opened fire. An IDF force shot and killed the terrorist. The Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 12, 2005 - One Israeli civilian was killed and three IDF soldiers wounded when a bomb was detonated as a military vehicle patroled the route near Morag in the southern Gaza Strip. Two terrorists were killed by IDF forces. The area was booby-trapped with explosive devices, in addition to the bomb that exploded. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 13, 2005 - On Thursday night, shortly before the closing of the Karni Crossing, terrorists activated an explosive device on the Palestinian side of the crossing, blowing a hole in the door through which Palestinian terrorists infiltrated the Israeli side of the crossing and opened fire at Israeli civilians. As a result of the explosion and during exchanges of fire, six Israeli civilians and three Palestinian terrorists were killed, and five Israeli civilians were wounded. Hamas and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed joint responsiblity for the attack.

Jan 18, 2005 - An ISA officer was killed, an IDF officer seriously wounded, and 4 IDF soldiers and 3 members of the ISA were lightly wounded in a suicide bombing attack at the Gush Katif junction in the central Gaza Strip. While search procedures were being carried out, the suicide bomber with explosives strapped to his body detonated himself. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 25, 2005 - Five people were killed and 50 wounded Friday night, when a suicide bomber blew himself up outside the Stage club on the Tel Aviv promenade at around 11:20 P.M., on the corner of Herbert Samuel and Yonah Hanavi streets. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 12, 2005 - Five people were killed and about 90 wounded when a suicide bomber detonated himself outside Hasharon Mall in Netanya. The bomber was identified as Ahmed Abu Khalil, 18, from the West Bank village of Atil. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 28, 2005 - A suicide bomber detonated himself outside the Beersheba Central Bus Station. Two security guards who stopped the bomber were severely wounded and about 50 people were lightly wounded or treated for shock. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 26, 2005 - Seven people were killed and 54 wounded, six seriously, in a suicide bombing at the Hadera open-air market. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 5, 2005 - Five people were killed and over 50 wounded in a suicide bombing at the entrance to the Sharon shopping mall in Netanya. The terrorist detonated the bomb when he was stopped by security guards, one of whom was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 29, 2005 - Lt. Ori Binamo, 21, of Nesher was killed when a terrorist en route to carry out an attack in Israel detonated himself at roadblock set up near Tulkarm following an intelligence tip. A second intended suicide terrorist was also killed in the blast as well as the taxi driver and a third passenger. Three soldiers and seven Palestinians were wounded.

Jan 19, 2006 - Thirty-one people were wounded in a suicide bombing in a shawarma restaurant near the old central bus station in Tel Aviv. The Jerusalem Battalions of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 30, 2006 - Four people were killed when a suicide bomber hitchhiker disguised as an ultra-Orthodox yeshiva student detonated his explosive device in a private vehicle near the entrance to Kedumim.

Apr 17, 2006 - Eleven people were killed and over 60 wounded in a suicide bombing during the Passover holiday near the old central bus station in Tel Aviv, at the Rosh Ha'ir shawarma restaurant, site of the Jan 19 bombing. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 29, 2007 - Three employees of a bakery in the southern city of Eilat were killed in a suicide bombing. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 4, 2008 - Lyubov Razdolskaya, 73, of Dimona was killed and 38 wounded - Razdolskaya's husband critically - in a terror attack carried out by a suicide bomber at a shopping center in Dimona. A police officer shot and killed a second terrorist before he detonated his explosive belt. A Hamas statement from Gaza praised the attack, calling it an "heroic act".

Mar 6, 2008 - Eight students of the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem were killed when a terrorist armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle infiltrated the yeshiva and opened fire in the library where about 80 people were gathered, mostly teenagers. Eleven others were wounded, three critically. The terrorist, a resident of East Jerusalem, was killed by an IDF officer.

May 14, 2008 - At about 6 pm an Iranian-made Grad rocket launched from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip hit a busy shopping mall in central Ashkelon. 90 people were wounded, four of them seriously, among them a 24-year-old mother and her infant daughter.

July 2, 2008 - Three people were killed and over 50 wounded in a terror attack in Jerusalem. Driving a bulldozer on Jaffa Road between the Central Bus Station and the Mahane Yehuda market, the terrorist plowed into cars and pedestrians as well as two public buses carrying some 50 passengers. Police shot and killed the terrorist.

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If previous post was not enough for some, here is little more and the source is your favorite BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm

Israel's history of bomb blastsThere have been more than 70 Palestinian bomb attacks aimed at Israelis since the current conflict erupted in September 2000. Below are some of the most deadly.2005

25 February: Four people are killed and at least 30 people are injured in a bomb blast outside a night club in Tel Aviv, weeks after Israeli and Palestinian leaders declare a truce.

2004

1 November: A teenage suicide bomber kills at least three people in the crowded Carmel market in Tel Aviv.

31 August: At least 16 people are killed and dozens are injured in two near-simultaneous suicide bombings on two buses in the southern city of Beersheba.

11 July: One person is killed and 21 are wounded by a bomb packed with metal bolts, which explodes near a bus stop in Tel Aviv.

14 March: A double suicide bombing kills 10 Israelis in the port of Ashdod on the Mediterranean coast.

22 February: A Palestinian suicide bomber kills eight people and injures dozens in an attack on an Israeli bus in Jerusalem.

29 January: A suicide bomber kills 11 people and injures around 50 on a bus in Jerusalem.

14 January: Hamas female suicide bomber kills four Israelis on the border with Gaza and injures seven.

2003

4 October: A suicide bomber blows herself up in a packed Haifa restaurant, killing at least 19 people including three children.

9 September: Two separate suicide attacks leave at least 15 people dead and scores wounded in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

In the first attack, at least eight people were killed - including the bomber - at the entrance to the Tzrifin Israeli Defence Force base, near Tel Aviv.

Hours later, a bomb attack outside a popular cafe in west Jerusalem left at least seven dead.

19 August: A suicide bomber wrecks a bus in Jerusalem, killing at least 20 people and injuring up to 100 others, in a serious blow to peace efforts. Hours later, Israel halts the handover of West Bank towns and cuts off contacts with Palestinians officials.

12 August: At least four people are killed and dozens injured in two suicide attacks by Palestinian bombers in Israel and the West Bank.

In the first attack, an explosion rips through a shopping centre in the central Israeli town of Rosh Haayin near Tel Aviv, killing two people and injuring at least 10 others.

Shortly afterwards, another suicide bomber blows himself up among a group of Israeli soldiers at a bus stop outside the Jewish settlement of Ariel, in the West Bank.

19 June: A suicide bomber kills himself and an Israeli man, owner of a grocery shop in Sde Trumot, a small village a few kilometres from the West Bank in northern Israel.

11 June: Sixteen people are killed in a bus bomb in Jerusalem, in the first suicide attack since US President Bush's peace summit a week before. It follows an Israeli air strike on 10 June aimed at killing Hamas leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi in Gaza.

Within an hour of the bus attack, Israeli helicopters launch another attack in Gaza, killing several people, reportedly including a top militant.

19 May: At least three people are killed and 18 injured in a suicide attack on a shopping mall in the northern Israeli town of Afula. The bomber is reported to have been a woman.

Earlier, three Israeli soldiers in the Gaza Strip are injured when a suicide bomber riding a bicycle detonate explosives strapped to his body.

18 May: Seven people are killed when a suicide bomber blows himself up on board a bus in northern Jerusalem. A second attacker kills himself minutes later as emergency crews arrive but no-one else is seriously hurt. The blasts come hours after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon held the first talks with his Palestinian counterpart, Mahmoud Abbas, better known as Abu Mazen.

17 May: A Palestinian suicide bomber disguised as a religious Jew kills an Israeli man and his pregnant wife in the West Bank town of Hebron.

_39157249_203b_stretcher_ap.jpgAn attacker targeted a popular nightspot in Tel Aviv30 April: A suicide bomber attacks a popular cafe in Tel Aviv, just hours after a new Palestinian cabinet wins approval under Abu Mazen who has pledged to crack down on militants. At least four people including the bomber are killed and dozens more injured.

24 April: An Israeli security guard is killed as he confronts a Palestinian suicide bomber outside a railway station in the town of Kfar Saba.

5 March: A powerful bomb blast ripped through a bus in the northern Israeli city of Haifa, killing at least 15 people. About 40 people were wounded, some of them seriously, in the explosion.

5 January: At least 23 people are killed and 100 wounded when two suicide attackers set off charges in crowded, parallel and adjacent streets during rush hour in Tel Aviv, echoing an attack in July 2001.

2002

21 November: A suicide bomber blows himself up on a packed rush-hour bus in west Jerusalem, killing 11 passengers and injuring scores more.

21 October:A suicide bomber drives a jeep packed with explosives into a bus near Pardes Hanna, killing at least 14 people, as well as the bomber.

10 October: A suicide bomber kills himself and a woman in an attack on a bus stop near Tel Aviv.

19 September: A suicide attack on a bus in Tel Aviv kills five and injures more than 50. A sixth victim - a medical student from Scotland - dies from his injuries the following day.

18 September: A six-week lull in suicide bombings comes to an end, when an Islamic Jihad militant kills himself and an Israeli policeman in the north of the country.

4 August: At least 10 Israelis are killed in a series of violent incidents, including a suicide bomb attack on a bus near the northern town of Safad.

31 July: A bomb in the students' cafeteria at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem kills seven - five of them Americans - and wounds more than 80.

30 July: A suicide bomber kills himself and wounds several Israelis in a fast-food store in Jerusalem.

17 July: A double suicide bomb attack near the old Tel Aviv bus station leaves five dead, including the two bombers, and injures about 40.

19 June: Eight people die including the bomber and 35 are injured in a suicide attack at a bus stop in the French Hill neighbourhood of East Jerusalem.

18 June: A suicide bomber kills himself and 19 civilians in a bomb attack on a bus in southern Jerusalem.

5 June: At least 14 are people killed in an attack on a bus at Megiddo junction, near the border with the West Bank. A suspected suicide attacker is believed to have driven up in a car behind the bus and detonated a bomb.

19 May: Three Israelis killed and nearly 30 injured when suicide bomber disguised in Israeli army uniform blows himself up at market in Netanya.

7 May: Suicide bomber attacks social club in the town of Rishon Letzion, killing 16 people and injuring more than 50. The attack was claimed by the armed wing of Hamas.

12 April: A suicide bomb attack at a bus stop in West Jerusalem, kills the bomber and six other people and injures about 50 more.

10 April: A suicide attack on a bus travelling near the Israeli city of Haifa kills at least eight people and injures dozens more.

31 March: Bomber attacks restaurant in Haifa, northern Israel, killing himself and 14 Israeli Jews and Arabs. On the same day, another bomber kills himself and wounds four people in an attack on an office for paramedics at the Jewish settlement of Efrat, south of Bethlehem.

27 March: In the Israeli resort of Netanya, a bomber blows himself up at a hotel, killing 28 Israelis celebrating Passover. The attack claimed by the armed wing of Hamas was the deadliest since the beginning of the uprising.

20 March: Seven people killed in a suicide bomb attack on a bus carrying mainly Arab labourers near the northern town of Umm el-Fahem.

9 March: At least 11 people killed and 50 injured in suicide bomb attack on a crowded cafe in west Jerusalem, near the official residence of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

2 March: Nine people killed including two babies, and 57 injured after suicide bomb attack in an ultra-Orthodox area of Jerusalem.

27 January: Two people - one a female suicide bomber - die in an attack in a busy shopping area of central Jerusalem.

2001

2 December: A Palestinian suicide bomber blows up a bus in the northern coastal city of Haifa, killing 15 people and wounding more than 100 others.

1 December: Twelve people, including two suicide bombers, are killed in an attack on a Jerusalem shopping centre.

29 November: At least four people die in a suicide bomb attack on a bus in the northern town of Hadera. Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

9 September: Three people are killed in a suicide bombing at a crowded railway station in the town of Naharia. The bomber is the first Israeli Arab to carry out such an attack.

9 August: Fifteen people are killed and about 90 others injured in a suicide attack on a busy restaurant in the heart of Jerusalem. Hamas admits responsibility.

1 June: Suicide bomb attack on a disco in Tel Aviv leaves 21 people dead and more than 60 others injured. Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

18 May:Five Israelis are killed and around 100 injured when a suicide bomber belonging to Hamas blows himself up outside a shopping centre in Netanya.

28 March: Three people killed and several others severely injured in a nail bomb attack near a bus stop close to the central Israeli town of Kfar Saba. Hamas admits responsibility.

2000

22 November: Two Israelis killed and 55 wounded by a car bomb that explodes during the rush-hour in northern town of Hadera.

2 November: Two Israelis killed by a powerful car bomb at central Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda market, a frequent target of attacks.

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You need to be more specific - and provide credible links - but it is not "my cause".

However, how does Hamas blowing up buses full of children further your cause? :whistling:

Can you give a specific about hamas blowing up busses of children ???

your plural.

See the loooong list provided where you will also find where Hamas claimed responsibility officially.

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If you want to understand a country it's good to know a little of its history. If you fiddle with other people's futures you can't complain too much when they kick you in the nuts.

It seems that Mosaddegh fixed an election which helped hasten his downfall.

Mosaddegh became aware of the plots against him and grew increasingly wary of conspirators acting within his government.[43] Mosaddegh then moved to dissolve the parliament "by calling for a national referendum".[43] After taking the additional step of abolishing the Constitutional guarantee of a secret ballot[citation needed], Mosaddegh's victory in the national plebiscite was assured[citation needed]. The electorate was forced into a non-secret ballot[citation needed] and Mosaddegh won "99.9 percent the vote" in the Aug. 4, 1953 referendum.[43] The tactics employed by Mosaddegh to remain in power were dictatorial in their result, playing into the propaganda efforts of those who favoured his removal.

The Shah did a lot of bad things, but also a lot of good ones - pretty typical of leaders in that part of the world.

Achievements The Shah made major changes to curb the power of certain ancient elite factions by expropriating large and medium-sized estates for the benefit of more than four million small farmers. In the White Revolution, he took a number of major modernization measures, including extending suffrage to women, much to the discontent and opposition of the Islamic clergy, the participation of workers in factories through shares and other measures, the improvement of the educational system through new elementary schools and literacy courses set up in remote villages by the Imperial Iranian Armed Forces. The latter step was called "Sepāh e Dānesh", "Army of Knowledge". As part of the White Revolution, the Armed Forces were engaged in infrastructural and other educational projects throughout the country ("Sepāh e Tarvij va Âbādāni") as well as in health education and promotion ("Sepāh e Behdāsht"). Moreover, he instituted exams for Islamic theologians to become established clerics. As a further step, in the seventies the governmental program of a free of charge nourishment for children at school ("Taghzieh e Rāigān") was implemented. Under the Shah's reign, the national Iranian income showed an unprecedented rise.In the field of diplomacy, Iran realized and maintained friendly relations with Western and East European countries as well as the state of Israel and China and became, especially through the close friendship with the United States, more and more a hegemonial power in the Persian Gulf region and the Middle East. The suppression of the communist guerilla movement in the region of Dhofar in Oman with the help of the Iranian army after a formal request by Sultan Qaboos was widely regarded in this context. As to infrastructural and technological progress, the Shah continued and developed further the policies introduced by his father. As part of his programs, projects in several technologies, such as steel, telecommunications, petrochemical facilities, power plants, dams and the automobile industry may be named.

In terms of cultural activities, international cooperations were encouraged and organized, such as the Shiraz Arts Festival. Many Iranian students were sent to and supported in foreign, especially Western countries and the Indian subcontinent. The Aryamehr University of Technology was established as a major new academic institution.[29][30][31]

http://en.wikipedia....ad_Reza_Pahlavi

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Maybe best answered by quotes from an article written by King Abdullah of Jordan 60 years ago in 1948.

"The unimaginable persecution of the Jews was not done by the Arabs: it was done by a Christian nation in the West."

"Our case is quite simple: For nearly 2,000 years Palestine has been almost 100 per cent Arab. It is still preponderantly Arab today, in spite of enormous Jewish immigration. But if this immigration continues we shall soon be outnumbered --- minority in our home. Palestine is a small and very poor country, about the size of your state of Vermont. Its Arab population is only about 1,200,000. Already we have had forced on us, against our will, some 600,000 Zionist Jews. We are threatened with many hundreds of thousands more."

Our position is so simple and natural that we are amazed it should even be questioned. It is exactly the same position you in America take in regard to the unhappy European Jews. You are sorry for them, but you do not want them in your country.

We do not want them in ours, either. Not because they are Jews, but because they are foreigners. We would not want hundreds of thousands of foreigners in our country, be they Englishmen or Norwegians or Brazilians or whatever. Think for a moment: In the last 25 years we have had one third of our entire population forced upon us. In America that would be the equivalent of 45,000,000 complete strangers admitted to your country, over your violent protest, since 1921. How would you have reacted to that?

Because of our perfectly natural dislike of being overwhelmed in our own homeland, we are called blind nationalists and heartless anti-Semites.

This charge would be ludicrous were it not so dangerous.

No people on earth have been less "anti-Semitic" than the Arabs. The persecution of the Jews has been confined almost entirely to the Christian nations of the West. Jews, themselves, will admit that never since the Great Dispersion did Jews develop so freely and reach such importance as in Spain when it was an Arab possession. With very minor exceptions, Jews have lived for many centuries in the Middle East, in complete peace and friendliness with their Arab neighbours. Damascus, Baghdad, Beirut and other Arab centers have always contained large and prosperous Jewish colonies. Until the Zionist invasion of Palestine began, these Jews received the most generous treatment far, far better than in Christian Europe. Now, unhappily, for the first time in history, these Jews are beginning to feel the effects of Arab resistance to the Zionist assault. Most of them are as anxious as Arabs to stop it. Most of these Jews who have found happy homes among us resent, as we do, the coming of these strangers.

I was puzzled for a long time about the odd belief which apparently persists in America that Palestine has somehow "always been a Jewish land." Recently an American I talked to cleared up this mystery. He pointed out that the only things most Americans know about Palestine are what they read in the Bible. It was a Jewish land in those days, they reason, and they assume it has always remained so.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is absurd to reach so far back into the mists of history to argue about who should have Palestine today, and I apologize for it. Yet the Jews do this, and I must reply to their "historic claim." I wonder if the world has ever seen a stranger sight than a group of people seriously pretending to claim a land because their ancestors lived there some 2,000 years ago If you suggest that I am biased, I invite you to read any sound history of the period and verify the facts."

"In 63 BC the Jews were conquered by Roman Pompey, and never again had even the vestige of independence. The Roman Emperor Hadrian finally wiped them out about 135 AD. He utterly destroyed Jerusalem, rebuilt under another name, and for hundreds of years no Jew was permitted to enter it. A handful of Jews remained in Palestine but the vast majority were killed or scattered to other countries, in the Diaspora, or the Great Dispersion. From that time Palestine ceased to be a Jewish country, in any conceivable sense.

This was 1,815 years ago, and yet the Jews solemnly pretend they still own Palestine!

If such fantasy were allowed, how the map of the world would dance about!Italians might claim England, which the Romans held so long. England might claim France, "homeland" of the conquering Normans. And the French Normans might claim Norway, where their ancestors originated. And incidentally, we Arabs might claim Spain, which we held for 700 years.

Many Mexicans might claim Spain, "homeland" of their forefathers. They might even claim Texas, which was Mexican until 100 years ago. And suppose the American Indians claimed the "homeland" of which they were the sole, native, and ancient occupants until only some 450 years ago. I am not being facetious. All these claims are just as valid or just as fantastic as the Jewish "historic connection" with Palestine. Most are more valid."

full version here, very interesting reading .......

My link

To be fair, if you wish to point out that it wasn't a Jewish land after the Diasporia, then you should point out that it was a Christian land after the conversion of the Roman Empire until the sack of Jerusalem by the Muslims from the south. Even at that point it changed hands a few times until the TURKS were able to hold onto it until the Great War....so why is it even considered Arab land if the Turks were actually in charge?

Because they're Muslims and being phrasing it as an "Arab" issue rather than a religious one puts a shiny gloss on it that is appealing to Westerners. Furthermore he LIED about not wanting Jews, for simply being Jewish, in his country when they were forcibly evicted after the creation of Israel...and they had been citizens of the area for generations.

He also lied about there being no persecution of the Jews; it was so bad in the area that the Ottoman Emperor had to issue an edict, and occasionally re-issue it, permitting the Jews to simply worship without being robb^^taxed^^ed or killed. There's even writings describing the indignities suffered; such as not being able to ride a horse; allowing a Muslim child to curse and spit on them, etc.

Sarah's bloke. A very interesting read and very true. However you don't expect any of these pro Israelis to listen to facts. According to them it's the Palestinians fault that they've been living on Jewish land for the last 2000 years. And remember the biggest book of fiction in the world says that it is their promised land so we must go by that.

Any worst a book of ficition than the Quaran which mandates an ethnic/religious cleansing of the Arabian pennisula and surrounding areas? And which takes place even today in areas like Darfur, Balkans, Iraq, etc?

So Kuffki, we don't need to argue about the dates King Abdullah of Jordan wrote in an item many years ago. Here are some that are more recent.

Do you believe America should be handed back to the Native Americans

Do you believe Australia should be handed back to the Aborigines

Do you believe that New Zealand should be handed back to the Maori?

It appears from your previous post you do think this!

I think you will also find that historically Zionists are credited in creating terrorism, in Palestine.

In answer to your question "Does Israel just randomly bomb Palestinians?"

The answer appears to be, yes they did!

"Throughout December 1947 and January 1948 Zionist militias carried out atrocities in Palestinian villages and neighbourhoods.One such assault took place in the village of Khisas in Galilee on 18 December 1947. Zionist troops blew up houses in the village in the dead of night, while their occupants were sleeping. Fifteen people were killed, including five children"

Israel - created by terrorism

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A rare photo of Israeli terrorists at the massacre at Deir Yassein

You did ask for photos

Massacre at Deir Yassein

News of the killings sparked terror within the Palestinian community, encouraging them to flee from their towns and villages in the face of Jewish troop advances, and it strengthened the resolve of Arab governments to intervene, which they did five weeks later by invading Palestine after Israel's declaration of Independence on May 14.

I'll address the last part first; actually Arab radio urged the Arabs living in Israel to leave to allow the attacking armies ease of operation. And by ease of operation I'm talking about destroying ancient buildings (many synagouges were destroyed such as Nisan Bek Shul, Hurva, etc); contrast this with the Israelis fighting their way up to the Temple Mount and yet today the Muslims still can go there and worship their stone--because the building is still standing.

It's also a lie that terror was brought to the region by the Jews; much as above where it was claimed that the population in the area was nearly 100% Arab. The fact that the Tiberias massacre happened is plenty proof of that.

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You need to be more specific - and provide credible links - but it is not "my cause".

However, how does Hamas blowing up buses full of children further your cause? :whistling:

Can you give a specific about hamas blowing up busses of children ???

your plural.

See the loooong list provided where you will also find where Hamas claimed responsibility officially.

Thank you kuffki. You saved me a two second search for many examples. :wai:

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Now little facts for Hamas using people as human shields

Palestinians' high-risk human shield tactichttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6166362.stm

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_42336680_roof_men_afp203body.jpgThe "human shields" have deterred at least one Israeli air strike

Along with the girls had come old men, neighbours and militants.

All of them were ready to defy the Israeli air force. They were ready to put themselves in the line of fire.

But they knew too that a similar human shield tactic had worked a few days earlier.

The Israelis had backed off knowing that to strike would cause large numbers of civilian casualties which would, of course, have played very badly in the court of international opinion.

For years Palestinians have been completely at the mercy of the Israeli air force.

But they clearly believe that now they have found a weakness.

If they know an attack is coming they can probably foil it by massing in the target zone.

The Israelis can no longer expect to limit civilian casualties by calling ahead and clearing people out.

'David and Goliath'

Of course the tactic is dangerous and it takes courage.

Nobody rushing to a threatened home will know whether or not this time the Israelis will strike.

But for Palestinians the new strategy has benefits way beyond protecting the odd target.

The tactic is symbolically important and a propaganda coup.

From militant leaders to schoolgirls, Palestinians can unite in confronting their enemy and the passive resistance of the human shields will be admired from around the world.

The boys on the roofs, armed only with Palestinian flags and facing down war planes, are a David and Goliath image for the modern age.

But nobody should imagine that the likes of Hamas are suddenly being won over wholly to the strategies of pacifism.

If they possessed anti-aircraft guns, they would surely blaze away at the circling planes.

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Israel's main objective is the destruction of the Palestinians.

Yeah this is why Israel is building Industrial Park in Israeli Arab City which is designed to serve the mainly Arab community of Nazareth and its neighboring areas.

Groundbreaking in Nazareth for first major industrial park in Israeli Arab city

27 Jun 2010The initiative is designed to serve the mainly Arab community of Nazareth and its neighboring areas. tefen.jpg Tefen Industrial ParkOn July 8, 2010, the Governor of the Bank of Israel Stanley Fischer and the Minister of Industry Trade & Labor Benyamin Ben-Eliezer will begin a groundbreaking ceremony for the new Nazareth Industrial Park. Israeli industrialist Stef Wertheimer conceived of and is funding this initiative, which is designed to serve the mainly Arab community of Nazareth and its neighboring areas.

The park, which confers the benefits of National Development Area A, will include a mix of new and established export industries. Ultimately, it will be home to 20-25 export-oriented firms and is expected to provide between 500-1,000 jobs in the next decade.

Like Wertheimer’s other parks, it will be a good neighbor, ensuring not only clean industry, but also a place for the local community to gather occasionally for special events. It will be located on a site where Pope Benedict XVI's helicopter landed in May 2009 just below Mt. Precipice.

Ramiz Jeraisi, who has served as Nazareth's mayor since 1994, has endorsed this initiative. Directing the project is Shawki Khatib, former mayor of the nearby village of Yafiah and current head of the National Committee for Arab Mayors. His immediate aim is to bring new industries to the park once it is completed.

A number of local businesses have already expressed interest in relocating some or all of their operations to the new industrial park. Russell Ellwanger, CEO of Tower Semiconductor, is considering establishing a design operation there. Imad Younis, the President of Alpha Omega - a firm that manufactures precision instruments used in brain surgery - has indicated that he may relocate his operations that are now based in Nazareth Ilit. Others include Nazareth Pharmaceuticals and Galil Software.

Convinced that export-driven entrepreneurship can help to promote peace, Mr. Wertheimer has created six other industrial parks, five in Israel and one in Turkey. The Israeli parks are a vital component of the nation's economy: together with Mr. Wertheimer’s other companies, the parks’ 200 innovative export enterprises now account for about 10% of Israel's total exports. They have attracted investment from world-leading businesses, such as Rolls Royce, Pratt and Whitney, and Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway. They have also served as a stabilizing force by creating jobs; training skilled workers and entrepreneurs; nurturing new export industries; uniting Jews, Arabs, and Druze in a harmonious workplace; and encouraging all sectors of Israeli society to become successful in industry.

As with the other parks, the new park in Nazareth will follow the model of Wertheimer's award-winning Tefen Industrial Park. That model includes specially designed industrial space for new companies; educational and cultural facilities; and amenities such as gated 24-hour security, dining areas, and personnel firms.

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You need to be more specific - and provide credible links - but it is not "my cause".

However, how does Hamas blowing up buses full of children further your cause? :whistling:

I apologise, agreed not your cause, however how does the collective punishment of Palestinian kids, for their fathers " errors" fit to the ethos of Israel ??

Please explain how Israel's actions fit the definition of 'collective punishment' as defined by the International Community? I'm sure that this link may be used in your post, but I'd like to hear how you explain it.

Posted

That's a good tactic to help make the Palestinians more prosperous. People with something to lose generally don't shoot rockets at civilians targets or strap on bombs to themselves.

Posted (edited)

It seems a great many people have an inability to deal with the truth or to acknowledge real politik. This has nothing to do with Israel, but is an attempt by Hezbollah to divert attention from itself and the pending criminal indictments ofr the murder of the Lebanese PM. So far, none of the usual gang of "blame Israel" have been able to provide a coherent comment in that regard. I've asked 2X and so far, nada.

Let's review some undisputed facts shall we?

- The head of Hezbollah's construction arm - Jihad Construction - admitted in an interview with BBC that Iran is providing funds directly to Hezbollah.

- Lebanon's Finance Minister, Jihad Azour, also publicly acknowledged that Iranian money is going directly to Hezbollah.

Some estimates of direct Iranian funding put the number at US$200 million (Pentagon briefing report April/2010). Others say it is greater. Fair enough, Iran can give its money to whomever and whoever it so chooses.

However, Hezbollah also is self funding. It's obtains contributions from Lebanese expatriates living in the west. Sometimes these are legit donations but mostly the money is derived from criminal activity in the west. In particular, the organized auto theft rings that plague eastern Canadian and U.S.cities and drug trafficking are Hezbollah's moneymakers. It now appears that Hezbollah has branched out into arming and training the Mexican drug cartels. A Hezbollah member was recently arrested in Mexico with an arms cache. I don't think he was there to open a kabob shop.

Hezbollah has capitalized on it being the sole armed militia in Lebanon following the agreements to disarm after the civil strife in the 1990's. The argument that Hezbollah used to hold onto its weapons was that it needed them to defend against Israel. In May of 2008, Hezbollah used those weapons to convince the Lebanese government to cancel 2 anti Hezbollah resolutions. The Government wanted to remove Hezbollah's independent communication network and to fire the airport security chief that allowed Hezbollah to put cameras along the take off lanes. Hezbollah did not allow this to happen and used its weapons to support its case. This was the first time Hezbollah used its weapons against the people of Lebanon since the end of the civil war in 1990. This is what caused PM Hariri to take on Hezbollah. This is why Hezbollah killed the PM. The Lebanese PM didn't know his place.

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Posted

Says more about your blinkered belief then doesn't it.

Blinkered as in not acknowledging that

- Hezbollah is facing criminal indictment for the murder of the Lebanese PM or,

-Hezbollah serves as a proxy for Iran and Syria or,

- Blaming Israel is always a good reason to deny other serious issues?

Please clarify.

Posted (edited)

Clarify

The gang of 'blame Israel' has not provided any coherent comment - is a sign that that the person cannot, or refuses to, understand another person's view because the poster has a set belief and can't see the forest for the trees.

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Posted

Answer could be very easy or very complex. I can think of 1 very obvious reason. All the countries you have mentioned are the only friends and allies of Iran, all are isolated and sanctioned to the max. Also because USA is Israels "best" friend and all the countries you mentioned are USA "worst" friend.

One other thing to remember, all mentioned are run by dictators and oppose anything even remotely resembling to democracy or freedom. So whatever USA supports, they are against. But to appear "good" for their people they try promote hatred for Israel, as in to show this is how badly people are treated, yet all of them kill their own people just for speaking out. In all the countries you mentioned, if you oppose the regime in any way what so ever, not only you will end up in jail, but they will burn your house and kill your entire family.

If anyone manages to escape but caught and sent back, they usually get killed, at times without even a trial

"But it is so easy to keep blaming Iran isn't it." Valid point, but Iran is not exactly doing anything to change its image or policy, worst part is, Iran does not even try to appear to be wanting to change anything and if anything do everything possible to anger the rest of the world. As i said before, they now even managed to upset Russia its strongest supporter

Ok then and what about Malaysia ? They are not a dictatorship and they are not " isolated

and sanctioned to the max " ? :huh: In fact they were one the leading members of APEC.

And the Prime Minister from the past Dr Mahathir Mohamad i think came out with some of the most salient quotes ever regarding Israel such as :-

" “The Europeans killed six million Jews out of twelve million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them,”

I think it is more of a case that not all leaders fall for the deception and lies. :ph34r:

Posted

It seems a great many people have an inability to deal with the truth or to acknowledge real politik. This has nothing to do with Israel, but is an attempt by Hezbollah to divert attention from itself and the pending criminal indictments ofr the murder of the Lebanese PM. So far, none of the usual gang of "blame Israel" have been able to provide a coherent comment in that regard. I've asked 2X and so far, nada.

Let's review some undisputed facts shall we?

- The head of Hezbollah's construction arm - Jihad Construction - admitted in an interview with BBC that Iran is providing funds directly to Hezbollah.

- Lebanon's Finance Minister, Jihad Azour, also publicly acknowledged that Iranian money is going directly to Hezbollah.

Some estimates of direct Iranian funding put the number at US$200 million (Pentagon briefing report April/2010). Others say it is greater. Fair enough, Iran can give its money to whomever and whoever it so chooses.

However, Hezbollah also is self funding. It's obtains contributions from Lebanese expatriates living in the west. Sometimes these are legit donations but mostly the money is derived from criminal activity in the west. In particular, the organized auto theft rings that plague eastern Canadian and U.S.cities and drug trafficking are Hezbollah's moneymakers. It now appears that Hezbollah has branched out into arming and training the Mexican drug cartels. A Hezbollah member was recently arrested in Mexico with an arms cache. I don't think he was there to open a kabob shop.

Hezbollah has capitalized on it being the sole armed militia in Lebanon following the agreements to disarm after the civil strife in the 1990's. The argument that Hezbollah used to hold onto its weapons was that it needed them to defend against Israel. In May of 2008, Hezbollah used those weapons to convince the Lebanese government to cancel 2 anti Hezbollah resolutions. The Government wanted to remove Hezbollah's independent communication network and to fire the airport security chief that allowed Hezbollah to put cameras along the take off lanes. Hezbollah did not allow this to happen and used its weapons to support its case. This was the first time Hezbollah used its weapons against the people of Lebanon since the end of the civil war in 1990. This is what caused PM Hariri to take on Hezbollah. This is why Hezbollah killed the PM. The Lebanese PM didn't know his place.

Very good post.

I have read this theory elsewhere and find it very plausible.

I have many Lebanese friends from my Saudi work days and, to a man, they have no use for Hezbollah, Iran or Syria.

The main threat to Lebanon is the triumvirate of Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.

Posted

Answer could be very easy or very complex. I can think of 1 very obvious reason. All the countries you have mentioned are the only friends and allies of Iran, all are isolated and sanctioned to the max. Also because USA is Israels "best" friend and all the countries you mentioned are USA "worst" friend.

One other thing to remember, all mentioned are run by dictators and oppose anything even remotely resembling to democracy or freedom. So whatever USA supports, they are against. But to appear "good" for their people they try promote hatred for Israel, as in to show this is how badly people are treated, yet all of them kill their own people just for speaking out. In all the countries you mentioned, if you oppose the regime in any way what so ever, not only you will end up in jail, but they will burn your house and kill your entire family.

If anyone manages to escape but caught and sent back, they usually get killed, at times without even a trial

"But it is so easy to keep blaming Iran isn't it." Valid point, but Iran is not exactly doing anything to change its image or policy, worst part is, Iran does not even try to appear to be wanting to change anything and if anything do everything possible to anger the rest of the world. As i said before, they now even managed to upset Russia its strongest supporter

Ok then and what about Malaysia ? They are not a dictatorship and they are not " isolated

and sanctioned to the max " ? :huh: In fact they were one the leading members of APEC.

And the Prime Minister from the past Dr Mahathir Mohamad i think came out with some of the most salient quotes ever regarding Israel such as :-

" "The Europeans killed six million Jews out of twelve million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them,"

I think it is more of a case that not all leaders fall for the deception and lies. :ph34r:

i think you need to distinguish the difference between making speeches and making threats, not to mention support terrorist. I do not think i ever saw Malaysia openly support any terrorist group.

you will also find that jew is able to do a stop over in Malaysia or allowed entry to Malaysia with an immigrations stamp from Israel.

According to your believe from what you wrote "I think it is more of a case that not all leaders fall for the deception and lies." that would mean that thousands of leaders are stupid morons who are easily duped, while the leaders of 3-4 nations are the smart ones. In this case is there any reason why all of those mentioned besides Malaysia are not able to use their brain to get more leaders to support them rather then support sanctions against them.?

Posted

So far, none of the usual gang of "blame Israel" have been able to provide a coherent comment...

That is nothing new. :D

Perhaps they too busy still looking through all the bombings list and trying to come up with some excuses for it.

Posted (edited)

It seems a great many people have an inability to deal with the truth or to acknowledge real politik. This has nothing to do with Israel, but is an attempt by Hezbollah to divert attention from itself and the pending criminal indictments ofr the murder of the Lebanese PM. So far, none of the usual gang of "blame Israel" have been able to provide a coherent comment in that regard. I've asked 2X and so far, nada.

Let's review some undisputed facts shall we?

- The head of Hezbollah's construction arm - Jihad Construction - admitted in an interview with BBC that Iran is providing funds directly to Hezbollah.

- Lebanon's Finance Minister, Jihad Azour, also publicly acknowledged that Iranian money is going directly to Hezbollah.

Some estimates of direct Iranian funding put the number at US$200 million (Pentagon briefing report April/2010). Others say it is greater. Fair enough, Iran can give its money to whomever and whoever it so chooses.

However, Hezbollah also is self funding. It's obtains contributions from Lebanese expatriates living in the west. Sometimes these are legit donations but mostly the money is derived from criminal activity in the west. In particular, the organized auto theft rings that plague eastern Canadian and U.S.cities and drug trafficking are Hezbollah's moneymakers. It now appears that Hezbollah has branched out into arming and training the Mexican drug cartels. A Hezbollah member was recently arrested in Mexico with an arms cache. I don't think he was there to open a kabob shop.

Hezbollah has capitalized on it being the sole armed militia in Lebanon following the agreements to disarm after the civil strife in the 1990's. The argument that Hezbollah used to hold onto its weapons was that it needed them to defend against Israel. In May of 2008, Hezbollah used those weapons to convince the Lebanese government to cancel 2 anti Hezbollah resolutions. The Government wanted to remove Hezbollah's independent communication network and to fire the airport security chief that allowed Hezbollah to put cameras along the take off lanes. Hezbollah did not allow this to happen and used its weapons to support its case. This was the first time Hezbollah used its weapons against the people of Lebanon since the end of the civil war in 1990. This is what caused PM Hariri to take on Hezbollah. This is why Hezbollah killed the PM. The Lebanese PM didn't know his place.

You are spot on, but there is little more to it i think.

The problem i can also see, if Lebanon was to break into a civil war again(touch wood) the Christian part of Lebanon may ask for help from Israel(officially or unofficially). If Hezbullah even thought of that possibility they will start to fire rockets into Israel. We have to keep in mind we are not dealing with a rational thinking human being, just the statement made in OP is already enough evidence that they are looking for a another war.

Here is little something i managed to dig up.You will find that Lebanese government has no authority of Hezbullah and can not even control or arrest any of them

Explosion at Hizbullah weapons storage facility in southern Lebanon

5 Sep 2010The building is a luxurious villa owned by a Hizbullah terrorist. lebanonweaponsstore.jpg Smoke billows from weapons storage facility

On September 3, 2010 a fire broke out following an explosion at a known Hizbullah military site in Shehabiya. Hizbullah operatives immediately cordoned off the area, preventing all access. After extinguishing the fire, the operatives transferred the arms from the shed into other buildings in the village and nearby, removing any incriminating evidence. LAF and UNIFIL were only granted permission to inspect the shed five hours after the incident started. After UNIFIL and LAF departed and under the cover of night, dozens of activists transferred the weapons in trucks to other villages, including one north of the Litani River, all undisturbed by UNIFIL or LAF.

On September 3, 2010, at around 12:45, an explosion occurred at a known Hizbullah weapons storage facility in southern Lebanon. This is the third explosion of its kind just this year. Several people were injured in the explosion. The facility is located in a three-story building, several hundred meters away from a mosque.

lebanonarmsmap.jpg

The building is a luxurious villa owned by a Hizbullah terrorist in one of the neighborhoods of Al-Shahabiya. This emphasizes the use made by Hizbullah of civilians to hide its activity in southern Lebanon, contradicting UN Security Council Resolution 1701. IDF intelligence, corroborated by Lebanese media, indicates that the site, owned by Wisam Saloum, a senior Hizbullah activist, was known in advance to be used for Hizbullah military purposes and contained arms. The building adjacent to the facility (from the south-west side) was used as a Hizbullah headquarters building up until the Second Lebanon War, during which it was destroyed.

Secondary explosions were heard and a fire broke out, spreading to a nearby grove. Hizbullah operatives sealed off the area, extinguishing the fire and apparently transferring the contents of the shed to the nearby building. In addition, the roof, which was partially blown off by the force of the explosion, was covered with plastic sheets and the floor of the shed was washed down with water. Hizbullah militants prevented the entry of UNIFIL and Lebanese Army Forces on the scene until the evacuation was completed. The weapons were transferred to other Hizbullah centers in nearby villages. Later that night, the IDF updated UNIFIL that trucks had departed from the scene, heading towards north of the Litani River. LAF and UNIFIL failed to inspect the trucks, which continued unhindered to the village of Nabatiya, where the supplies were unloaded at a mosque.

During the past year, several similar incidents of weapon explosions in southern Lebanon have taken place. This increase may be attributed to the low maintenance level of the weaponry in private homes. It should be emphasized that these buildings are located near civilian houses and other public areas (schools, mosques, hospitals etc).

In July 2010, the IDF exposed Hizbullah's vast military apparatus in the village of Al-Hiyam and has emphasized that similar apparatuses exist in all Shiite villages in southern Lebanon (160 villages).

Hezbollah Uses Lebanese Villages as Military Bases15 November 2010 ,Untitled1_Wa1s.jpg

Aerial photos of the al-Khiam village show that Hezbollah's weapons have been stored near schools, hospitals, and residential buildings. Photo: IDF Spokesperson

geresh.jpg IDF intelligence maps show Hezbollah weapons stored near schools, hospitals and residential buildings, marking a trend of using civilian villages as militant centers.

The following declassified intelligence maps as well as the 3D animated clip illustrate how Hezbollah, in the four years since the Second Lebanon War, has turned over 100 Southern Lebanese villages into military bases. These maps and the 3D clip show how Hezbollah stores weapons near schools, hospitals, and residential buildings in the village of al-Khiam, which had been used as a rocket launching site during the Second Lebanon War. This same tactic of storing weapons near civilian buildings is being carried out by Hezbollah in villages all across southern Lebanon, essentially using the residents as human shields, in gross violation of UN Resolution 1701.

During the Second Lebanon war, Hezbollah generally stored its weapons in open areas, enabling the IDF to locate and destroy these stores. In the four years since, Hezbollah has pursued a tactic of moving its weapons into civilian villages, essentially institutionalizing the tactic of using human shields on a large scale.

3D animated video clip of the Lebanese village, al-Khiam:

IDF intelligence indicates that this village, with a current population of approximately 23,000 people, is one of several Hezbollah centers currently undergoing preparation for confrontation with the IDF. Today, about 90 Hezbollah militants, some of whom are part of the Special Forces prepared to confront IDF soldiers with explosive devices, mines and various types of antitank missiles, are operating in the village. According to intelligence, there are hundreds of rockets and mortar shells, with different ranges, already stored within the village.

Four years after the Second Lebanon War, Hezbollah has strengthened its capabilities and resources. It currently has an arsenal of some 40,000 rockets. Under the present condition, if war were to break out, Hezbollah could launch between 500 to 600 rockets a day towards Israel. Aerial photos of the al-Khiam village show that Hezbollah's weapons have been stored near schools, hospitals, and residential buildings.

Hezbollah collects information on events in Israel

In a briefing to the public, Col. Ronen Marley, Commander of the Western Division on the northern border, explained that Hezbollah has been collecting information on IDF activities and events in Israel. "Every day they are collecting significant intelligence on our forces along the border and every day they are engaged in digging, building and laying communications infrastructure to prepare themselves for war," he said. Hezbollah has been collecting extensive intelligence information, often under the disguise of Lebanese civilians approaching the border. Col. Marley estimated that a renewed conflagration between Israel and Hezbollah could happen anytime between today and next year.

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Excuse me, but this thread is on Hezbollah.

EXACTLY!

And there is one and only one thing anyone needs to know about Hezbollah. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Iran, which has vowed publicly on numerous occasions, that it has a goal of wiping Israel off the face of the Earth.

Hezbollah calls for truce when it is tired of getting the shit kicked out of it by Israel. Hezbollah calls for war after it has had time to regroup after a truce. It's been the same old song and dance for generations.

Two things are never going to change. The US will never stop backing Israel. And Israel will never stop doing everything in its power to defend itself against the aggressors.

No one in that region in their right mind wants to pick a fight with Israel. Iran doesn't have the guts, so it pays the Hezbollah mercenaries. Guess it's time for Israel to pull out the whoopin' stick again.

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