striderman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 [ Hmmm. Not sure I could spend so much time down there without making the effort to tip off the 'marks' before hand. At least once before legging it. they do not target eveyone. i have seen some rentals go without problem. but when they do go for a ''mark" it's never cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrobert Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 from 2009 http://www.thaivisa....-jet-ski-owner/ post 119 Tourist Police chief Adis Ngamjitsuksri has conceded the extortion of tourists was a problem which the police alone could not stamp out. He said the extortion gangs, including those in tourist provinces, worked under highly influential people. Yeah, him! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The jet ski scams on pattaya beach are continuing daily it would be nice to see the Police make a public statement to address tourists concerns . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedog100 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The BiB may get a cut of any fine situation that they "resolve", but often they actually own the jet bikes. Exactly. The cops usually own the jet skis and the thugs are basically their employees. Nice world we live in I think that you are right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Other than the black beer, I din't know that Irish play Jetski as well. you're the frog in the coconut shell then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Very interesting to read the comments under this youtube clip doesn't that make your blood boil...most of all the lazy money hungry policeman....sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) Russians in Pattaya seem to be involved in a few tourism business and also their presence sometimes on the beach around the jet ski hiring businesses shows that they could be more involved It could be another part of the reason police are reluctant to stop these scams everyday and that the media stay clear, but thats just a thought may be nothing to it. Russians may be slowly over running the thais in these services it looks like Phuket tour operators are currently having problems with Russian tour guides. It is interesting that no government department will make a statement in regards to the jet ski scam after all the bad publicity. They quickly make news when they bust a few hookers and lady boys on beach road, who get fined about 200 baht each and then they go and do the same again. The jet ski scam is still a daily event in many places along the beach nothing has changed the mafia are still getting very irate with people and extorting money and it wont belong before another serious injury occurs. Not one media outlet has sat down an interview with officials about this only Pattaya One did the Knife story which was very carefully worded Edited December 24, 2010 by saintofsilence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderman Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 i did not see any knives today but witnessed 3 scams going on between burger king at the royal garden plaza and the nautical inn near mike shopping mall. if u are going to visit pattaya leave the jet ski's alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) his is an old article from 2009 but it just shows nothing changes scams are allowed to go on After many complaints about Jet Ski operators in Pattaya and Jomtien overcharging tourists when accidents occur to their boats, Pattaya Mayor Ittipol Khunplome held a meeting at City Hall to sort out the problems, in order to be fair to both operators and customers. Attending was Deputy Mayor Ronnakit Aegesing, councilors, and representatives from the Pattaya and Banglamung police and TAT. Many complaints came in via 1337 Call Center and the Tourist Information Center that after tourists had rented Jet Skis, minor scratches or dents were called to their attention and demand for compensation was claimed from them, with some operators asking up to 50,000 baht for damages. One worrying complaint from a tourist, who came forward, stated that he would be threatened and killed if he went to the police. This could be part of a scam that has been in operation for years whereby unsuspecting customers who do not check the Jet Skis before riding them are duped into believing they have caused the damage when it was in reality either an old dent or scratch or a deliberate pre-arranged accident involving another Jet Ski. Even though this particular scam is not original as surely it goes on in many seaside resorts all over the world, it could indeed damage tourism with a negative image for Pattaya. Mayor Ittipol suggested that a committee be set up to control and supervise the Jet Ski businesses in both Pattaya and Jomtien, to help tourists and also arbitrate in any disputes that may occur along the beach front between Jet Ski operators and tourists. In a preliminary report, the committee will be made up from officers at City Hall, and Jet Ski operators will be expected to comply and to register once the department to be called the Marine Tourism Supervision Committee is set up. Lawyers are already drafting up the rules and regulations that operators must comply to or face penalties, which will be presented to Jet Ski operators for their cooperation in stamping out unscrupulous operators which are giving their business a bad image in Pattaya. http://www.pattayape...IdArticle=19920 Here is a quote from another thread on this forum in 2009 “Tourist Police chief Adis Ngamjitsuksri has conceded the extortion of which the police alone could not stamp out. He said the extortion gangs, including those in tourist provinces, worked under highly influential people. My question is who are those influential people ? the scam is is still going on in 2011 http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293919-i9439-k3668413-Warning_Jet_Ski_Scam-Pattaya.html more info on facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001909826119&sk=wall Edited January 5, 2011 by saintofsilence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderman Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 during a brief walk along the beach today i saw 3 indians getting kebabed by the group nearest to walking st and a japanese couple about to fall on their sword as the only way to avoid payment directly in front of the centale shopping centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 //Notice// It would seem that all the relevant points have been discussed before and we are simply re hashing old posts to keep a dying topic alive. Unless something new is forthcoming in the next 24 hours I regret the topic will be closed for review. //Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 this topic is also keeping people advised of the ongoing scam which is still ongoing and being reported closing this topic needs to be reconsidered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillowbee Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) The collective behaviors of a nation - personal, political, commercial, spiritual, and on, and on, are all rooted in the country's cultural values. Thailand. Inferior culture. Viewed through the rose colored lense of some great marketing spin ("Amazing Thailand!"), it seems counter-intuitive, except to the people who live and work here. Pattaya's poor tourist showing in the middle of Thailand's high season might have nothing to do with the global economy. A pity, that. Edited January 5, 2011 by swillowbee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderman Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 //Notice// It would seem that all the relevant points have been discussed before and we are simply re hashing old posts to keep a dying topic alive. Unless something new is forthcoming in the next 24 hours I regret the topic will be closed for review. //Admin as with all forums the actions of admin cannot bedebated and i understand that. but be advised going to the beach and reporting on what is going on involves a lot of risk. i was challenged 2 days ago but got away with it. please remember that when deciding to close a topic that could stop even 1 persons holiday from being ruined by a demand for cash that could easily exceed the airfare that they paid to get to thailand in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The Mayor quote:- I'll set up a committee." A polite way of saying Pi55 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Seeing as how this is running concurrently in the Pattaya forum and the same posts being rehashed over and over I am closing this now. In the future, do NOT open topics discussing duplicate information in different forums, thanks. //CLOSED// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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