Ketchup With No Sugar Added In Thailand?

[WhiteCadillac]

Have you found Ketchup with no sugar added in Thailand?

Even the Tesco lotus one has 15% added sugar, and Heinz has even more.

[afarang]

Yes, I have.I bought it at Makro,( Buriram) but this week they did not have any.I have seen it in Supermarkets in Bkk., but I am sorry, I forget the brand.But it clearly advertises ,on the label, that it is Sugar Free

[ricklev]

Organicville Organic No Added Sugar Ketchup, Gluten Free, 24-Ounce Bottles

Distributed in Thailand, but it comes and goes. Central Market at Central Chidlom and Central World is your best bet.

[ricklev]

I think there is an artificially sweetened Thai brand sometimes available also. I've seen it at Tops....

[powderpuff]

Cool. Well Central Market & TOPS are the same company.

[afarang]

Yes, I have.I bought it at Makro,( Buriram) but this week they did not have any.I have seen it in Supermarkets in Bkk., but I am sorry, I forget the brand.But it clearly advertises ,on the label, that it is Sugar Free

Sorry, I should have added, this is a Thai manufactured product

[jazzbo]

You can whip up for yourself a pretty decent sugar free ketchup using tomato paste, vinegar, some onion powder or sautéed onions, salt, chili powder, etc. and use some zero cal sweetener if you like -- cooked or just stirred into the paste ... use the small cans to keep it fresh.

[fremmel]

Lotus, and probably other stores, also sell real Heinz Ketchup that's been bottled in the US in addition to the really sweet stuff that Heinz bottles in Thailand. I suspect there's a little sugar in it but I can't tell because they've stuck the Thai label over the ingredient list on the back. It's 2 or 3 times as expensive as the Thai stuff but it's worth it.

[Gippy]

Lotus, and probably other stores, also sell real Heinz Ketchup that's been bottled in the US in addition to the really sweet stuff that Heinz bottles in Thailand. I suspect there's a little sugar in it but I can't tell because they've stuck the Thai label over the ingredient list on the back. It's 2 or 3 times as expensive as the Thai stuff but it's worth it.

According to Heinz website there is 4g of sugar per 17g of ketchup in their original US version, or 23.5%, a touch more than a little sugar

[NanaFoods]

beware of aspartame in "sugar-free" items.

why not make your own?

basically it's just tomato paste, vinegar, and some seasonings.

there are a plethora of recipes on the web.

you could get creative and use apple cider vinegar, etc.

...and you could adjust the sugar to your liking.

Examples:

http://ketchuprecipe.com/

[jazzbo]

NF -- You're welcome.

[fremmel]

I was surprised at the amount of sugar in the US Heinz ketchup. I notice it's a mix of sugars from corn syrup. I guess they can control the sweetness and volume better than with cane sugar and it's probably cheaper. At any rate, since ketchup is not a substantial part of my diet my selection criteria is based on taste rather than calorie count or nutritional value. And I like the taste of US bottled Heinz ketchup.

[thaigerd]

beware of aspartame in "sugar-free" items.

why not make your own?

basically it's just tomato paste, vinegar, and some seasonings.

there are a plethora of recipes on the web.

you could get creative and use apple cider vinegar, etc.

...and you could adjust the sugar to your liking.

Examples:

http://ketchuprecipe.com/

That's a great link, thanks!

[frenchfarangjomtien]

How can ketchup have no sugar ? I was thinking that sugar is the reason for tomato sauce to be called ketchup ? Wrong ?

[Godolphin]

I was surprised at the amount of sugar in the US Heinz ketchup. I notice it's a mix of sugars from corn syrup. I guess they can control the sweetness and volume better than with cane sugar and it's probably cheaper. At any rate, since ketchup is not a substantial part of my diet my selection criteria is based on taste rather than calorie count or nutritional value. And I like the taste of US bottled Heinz ketchup.

I have read where that corn syrup is a particularly nasty 'food.'

If you go the Dr Mercola site you will see some very disturbing findings about this insidious substance.

[jazzbo]

Dr Mercola is disturbing ... has been censured several times by US FDA for nutritional claims.

[junkofdavid2]

If you go the Dr Mercola site

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[Godolphin]

If you go the Dr Mercola site

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<deleted>? Well he is an American guy who has a website specialising in alternative health and yes, he does make a dollar selling his range of products.

He may very well be a charlatan for all I know but he does raise some interesting points.

Not the least are his views on corn syrup. After reading what he and others have said on this subject I think there are grounds for concern.

I'd rather read stuff from him than blindly following the agribusiness monopolies who are selling crap to the public.

[jazzbo]

blindly following the agribusiness monopolies ??? I am familiar with Dr. Mercola's work particularly as regards saturated fat ... anybody is free to make their individual choices based on his or any other person's writing ... when he says e.g. that all the research supported by the American Heart Association is bunk and the product of a vast conspiracy, he may also be right but don't expect anybody to take him seriously.

[NanaFoods]

I was surprised at the amount of sugar in the US Heinz ketchup. I notice it's a mix of sugars from corn syrup. I guess they can control the sweetness and volume better than with cane sugar and it's probably cheaper. At any rate, since ketchup is not a substantial part of my diet my selection criteria is based on taste rather than calorie count or nutritional value. And I like the taste of US bottled Heinz ketchup.

I have read where that corn syrup is a particularly nasty 'food.'

If you go the Dr Mercola site you will see some very disturbing findings about this insidious substance.

HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) specifically, it seems.

Traces of mercury.

Web MD

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20090127/mercury-in-high-fructose-corn-syrup

Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012601831.html

Search engine "Mercury in HFCS" for pages and pages of articles.

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Seems there are also studies linking fructose to obesity.

NY Times Health

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/does-fructose-make-you-fatter/

http://www.articlesbase.com/nutrition-articles/how-high-fructose-corn-syrup-makes-you-fat-1546005.html

Lots more if you search.

As for me, I'll stick with what is known --> tried and true natural cane sugar (the darker the better when applicable), honey, maple, and palm sugar. There may be other choices but I don't have access to them or use them. No HFCS or artificial chemical sweeteners for me, thank you.

[Wavefloater]

Dr Mercola is disturbing ... has been censured several times by US FDA for nutritional claims.

If this doctor has been censured by the FDA, then I'm interested to hear what he has to say.

More people have to stop blindly believing the bullsh*t that comes out of federal government agencies. They are really only extensions of big business and work towards their best interests - not that of the people.

[jazzbo]

Good post ... It goes a long way to show how wackos like Mercola are able to maintain a thriving business.

[NanaFoods]

Interesting... I never heard of this Dr.Mercola... just checked out his website.

I agree with his stance on fluoride (there is a whole movement that agrees with him), but I think he is wrong about coffee.

If find Dr. Douglass (douglassreport.com) more palatable for alternative medical ideas.

But as Wave says, the FDA has indeed become a big-agro/big-pharma whore. Heck, the FDA doesn't seem to even espouse the idea that natural foods have medicinal value. Producers cannot claim that fruits like blueberries and mangosteen can reduce risk of cancer, etc.....or even citrus preventing scurvy. And how does complete crap like aspartame get approved? Ah, yes... Donald Rumsfeld.

[jazzbo]

Heck, the FDA doesn't seem to even espouse the idea that natural foods have medicinal value... If you were ever to go into a chain grocery buyer's office and say that the FDA is bunk and that natural foods DO have medicinal value -- even if you are right -- you would never find yourself in that buyer's office again./

[NanaFoods]

Heck, the FDA doesn't seem to even espouse the idea that natural foods have medicinal value... If you were ever to go into a chain grocery buyer's office and say that the FDA is bunk and that natural foods DO have medicinal value -- even if you are right -- you would never find yourself in that buyer's office again./

Geez, Jazzbo... quite the Negative Nancy lately.

Cheer up.

First off, I would never claim the FDA (USFDA, that is) is "bunk"... a majority of their regulations have merit. But I have to question the amount of influence big biz has on them when they approve things like that GMO chimera salmon, and that it need not be labeled as GMO, and that natural salmon suppliers cannot claim, or at least make it very difficult to claim, that their products are non-GMO.

Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/18/AR2010091803520.html

And who would be stupid enough to go into a business meeting and start a conversation about something like this??

Puh-lease. This is unrealistic negativeness.

Even though I am not in that particular business, though we are health conscious, it seems the atmosphere is a bit different in Thailand, where the culture recognizes food as preventative medicine. Ask any Thai, and just about all can tell you what foods are good for this ailment and that. And not just preventative, but foods for curing/remedying ailments...like several local plants that can dissolve kidney stones (over time)... and the like.

[jazzbo]

You talk about going into a buyer's meeting and not saying the FDA is bunk ... if you look at the websites of many large cap natural foods companies and at their promo literature you will see that they do just that in fact they quote the research of persons like Mercola and the Weston-Price Foundation ... particularly as it relates to saturated fats ... it maybe gets them into the natural foods section but they will not crack the mainstream shelves.

Dr. Mercola quotes on his website Sugar Increases Polio Risk -- Lessons For Other Viral Infections ...

BTW for sugars have you considered using palm sugar or stevia blend both of which are grown in Thailand ... ?

... if you want some credible alternative research try these folks who have no problem going up against the FDA and big agra / pharma: http://www.cspinet.org/ --

http://www.cspinet.o...0foods_bad.html

[NanaFoods]

You talk about going into a buyer's meeting and not saying the FDA is bunk ... if you look at the websites of many large cap natural foods companies and at their promo literature you will see that they do just that in fact they quote the research of persons like Mercola and the Weston-Price Foundation ... particularly as it relates to saturated fats ... it maybe gets them into the natural foods section but they will not crack the mainstream shelves.

For supplements and natural foods marketed as "preventative", perhaps that's in their best interest to do so.

If a buyer is not interested, then it is best for them to move on to stores that are similarly targeted.

Since your previous statement said "you" I took it as referring to me. Perhaps you meant "you" figuratively...

Anywho, my meaning in my reply, was that in my business, there is no advantage in that discussion, so it is not a topic that I would bring up and would deflect if brought up by another.

Dr. Mercola quotes on his website Sugar Increases Polio Risk -- Lessons For Other Viral Infections ...

I am not a follower of Mercola.

My first glance at his website did not impress me.

BTW for sugars have you considered using palm sugar or stevia blend both of which are grown in Thailand ... ?

I am not an expert on stevia, but what I have read seems that it is definitely preferable to aspartame.

EDIT: actually I did mention palm sugar previously (pg 1) as an option.

... if you want some credible alternative research try these folks who have no problem going up against the FDA and big agra / pharma: http://www.cspinet.org/ --

http://www.cspinet.o...0foods_bad.html

Will check it out. Thanks.

[jazzbo]

When I worked in the food industry many years ago I routinely dealt with grocery and frozen food buyers who purchased for a 200 Safeway-type store region ... when these days the grocery chains have on their corporate websites that they follow the nutritional guidelines of the FDA and groups like the American Heart Association, I do not see how a natural or organic food product can go very far with those chains if the product claims that such guidelines are bunk.

... and I do have some recent experience doing some product planning in a category where many natural food companies say just that -- that research from places like Harvard School of Public Health is bunk ... I am not a scientist ... maybe it is bunk ... but I would not want to take that position in trying to advance the market penetration of any product I represent.

[NanaFoods]

just ran across this...

"Although stevia sounds like a miracle herb, scientific research may suggest otherwise. Some scientists are concerned that stevia may be a mutagen, meaning that it could cause cancer. Stevia has also been linked to reproductive malfunction. Some of these studies have been imperfectly performed, but the need for more thorough analysis of the compound has certainly been demonstrated. Proponents of stevia suggest that these studies may be part of a larger effort on the part of sugar companies to keep alternatives to sugar off the market, pointing out that stevia is widely used in South America and Asia with no noticeable ill effects. Given the argument over stevia, it would appear that more controlled studies are needed."

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-stevia.htm

I think I will wait for further studies before I migrate towards any position....

[jazzbo]

Morita Kagaku Kogyo Co. -- this is the company in Japan that pioneered the modern use of stevia ... I personally think it is bitter and just doesn't taste very good ... there are all sorts of product formulations to 'mask' the flavor ... however i do use a 50% blend that is made in Thailand and can be purchased at TOPS.