Back To Back Uk Visa?

[hamishgillan]

Is it possible to get the first UK visa issued in Thailand and after it has expired (6 months) go to Dublin/Paris to apply for another one to stay for a further 6 months or is there a limit on that behavior.

PS. different intentions from previous threads, not trying to confuse just seeing what my options are as GF's English may be too weak to pass 'A1' English test for settlement visa at this stage and don't want to make a deposit for rental agreement at this stage as it may be refused..... Kind of desperate to get to the UK too....

Thank You, HG.

[theoldgit]

If you are talking about a visit visa then it must be applied for in your country of residence. To apply for a further visa the applicant must apply in Thailand, I'm assuming we are talking about a Thai person, unless the applicant can prove they are permanently resident in Paris or Dublin.

There are guidelines saying that on a visit visa a person can only stay in the UK for 6 out of 12 months, and whilst these are only guidelines I think the UKBA will take some convincing that a second visa is justified and that you are not trying to circumvent the need for a settlement visa.

[ThaiVisaExpress]

The ECO must be convinced its a genuine visit to issue back to back visit visas, I doubt you will convince the ECO.

[Eff1n2ret]

If you are talking about a visit visa then it must be applied for in your country of residence.

Duff info. See this from Entry Clearance Guidance:-

"ECB5 Where to apply - the policy

Applications for visit visas and EEA Family Permits can be made at any post designated by the Secretary of State to accept applications for entry clearance. The applicant will need to be in the third country or territory in accordance with that country or territory's immigration laws.

Applications for all other types of entry clearance, including PBS* and settlement (*see tier 5 exception below) should be made in the applicant's country of residence"

Having said that, the likelihood of getting a back-to-back visit visa as postulated is slim. The database containing the original application is easily accessed by UKBA ECOs and IOs anywhere in the world - probably be on Wikileaks soon.

[theoldgit]

If you are talking about a visit visa then it must be applied for in your country of residence.

Duff info. See this from Entry Clearance Guidance:-

"ECB5 Where to apply - the policy

Applications for visit visas and EEA Family Permits can be made at any post designated by the Secretary of State to accept applications for entry clearance. The applicant will need to be in the third country or territory in accordance with that country or territory's immigration laws.

Applications for all other types of entry clearance, including PBS* and settlement (*see tier 5 exception below) should be made in the applicant's country of residence"

Having said that, the likelihood of getting a back-to-back visit visa as postulated is slim. The database containing the original application is easily accessed by UKBA ECOs and IOs anywhere in the world - probably be on Wikileaks soon.

Thanks for the put down, of course when you quoted my "duff information" you left out most of what I said. The OP asked if he could apply in Thailand, that's where he has lived for the last seven years, that's where they are resident so that's where they apply, was I wrong?

The OP asked that once the visa had run it's course could they then go to either to Paris or Dublin to get a new visa, similar to a visa run I presume. I believed my comment indicating that they could if they were resident there was correct, you left that bit out, but was I wrong? Are you saying that be being in France or Ireland on a tourist visa counts as being in the third country or territory in accordance with that country of territory's immigration laws, so they could hop over the water and apply?

I humbly accept that you are far more knowledgeable than me on these matters, and for that I apologise to the OP.

[Eff1n2ret]

Are you saying that be being in France or Ireland on a tourist visa counts as being in the third country or territory in accordance with that country of territory's immigration laws, so they could hop over the water and apply?

I humbly accept that you are far more knowledgeable than me on these matters, and for that I apologise to the OP.

Apologies also if my shorthand offended you, it wasn't particularly meant as a putdown. As far as the quoted question is concerned, I would answer 'yes'. Supposing someone has a 6-month visit visa, and makes a couple of one-month trips to the UK on it, the second towards the end of its validity, during which time they also have a Schengen visa. If they needed to come back to the UK for a further short visit, it would be quite within the letter and spirit of the rules to apply for another UK visa in Paris or Brussels.

But I don't think we disagree that the chances of the OP's partner being able to do the equivalent of a border run after a 6-month stay in the UK are slim to nil

[hamishgillan]

I was considering this so we could have Thai GF in the UK hearing and using English plus having found accommodation already, then making the vaf4a settlement application in the UK during the second six months but maybe just six months will be enough time for that.....

Thank you though.

[VisasPlus]

I was considering this so we could have Thai GF in the UK hearing and using English plus having found accommodation already, then making the vaf4a settlement application in the UK during the second six months but maybe just six months will be enough time for that.....

Thank you though.

Your girlfriend cannot make a settlement application while she is in the UK on a visit visa.

Visitors cannot switch from one category to another, and any such application will be refused. You need to rethink your strategy.

[hamishgillan]

actually i am not sure if i am even in the right category now, i am british, we are both in thailand together for 7 years, but there is a 2 year probationary period that she will be given first is that what she should be applying for and not the vaf4a ....

thanks,

[VisasPlus]

actually i am not sure if i am even in the right category now, i am british, we are both in thailand together for 7 years, but there is a 2 year probationary period that she will be given first is that what she should be applying for and not the vaf4a ....

thanks,

You've got me confused ! Are you wanting to apply for a visit visa or a settlement visa for your girlfriend ? Settlement applications are made on the VAF4A. If your girlfriend is applying for settlement as your wife or partner, and if the visa is issued, then she would normally be granted two years Leave To Remain on arrival in the UK. Maybe this is what you mean by 2 years probation ? That settlement application would have to be made in Thailand.

I really am lost about the Dublin thing. Sorry.