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Bolivia recognizes Palestine as an independent state

2010-12-18 05:21:31 GMT+7 (ICT)

BRAZIL (BNO NEWS) -- Bolivian President Evo Morales on Friday announced that his country has recognized Palestine as an independent state, local media reported. He made the statement during the Mercosur summit.

With the announcement, Bolivia joined the list of Latin American and South American countries consisting of Cuba, Argentina, Brazil, and Venezuela which have all recognized an independent Palestinian state with the borders which were established in 1967.

"Bolivia recognizes Palestine as an independent state along 1967 borders, together with Brazil and Argentina," President Morales said during the Mercosur summit.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas welcomed the move and thanked the support of Morales. Furthermore, Abbas praised the bilateral relationships.

In early December, Brazil and Argentina recognized Palestine as a free and independent state within its borders prior to the 1967 Six-Day War. Israel openly criticized and condemned these acts and said that they did nothing to promote Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation.

Shortly afterward, Uruguay announced that it would also recognize a Palestinian state in 2011. The declarations were a response to a request made by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in late November.

After the announcements from the South American countries, Palestinian negotiators urged European countries, for the first time, to also recognize a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip despite Israel's refusal.

Palestinian officials spoke last week with the consuls general of France, Britain, Sweden and Denmark as well as the European Union envoy to the peace process to recognize the 1967 borders between Israel and Palestine. So far, no European nation has acted on it.

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Congratulations to Bolivia and all other countries that have decency to recognize Palestine, shame on the US and its allies for their hypocrisy.

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Recognizing a people who have elected a terrorist organization that refuses to make peace - Hamas - is about as hypocritical as you can get. When the parties that represent the Palestinian Arabs are willing to recognize Israel, renounce violence as a political weapon and make peace, they will get their country.

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Recognizing a people who have elected a terrorist organization that refuses to make peace - Hamas - is about as hypocritical as you can get. When the parties that represent the Palestinian Arabs are willing to recognize Israel, renounce violence as a political weapon and make peace, they will get their country.

give it a rest Ulysses G

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I personally know a Palestinian couple and they are nicest people you could ever possibly meet. Knowing these people it saddens me to see what Israel is doing to them. On the other hand it is wonderful to see countries from around the world recognising the Palestinian state. We just need Israel to put down thier big stick and we can have peace in the region.

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I personally know a Palestinian couple and they are nicest people you could ever possibly meet. Knowing these people it saddens me to see what Israel is doing to them. On the other hand it is wonderful to see countries from around the world recognising the Palestinian state. We just need Israel to put down thier big stick and we can have peace in the region.

Just what exactly is Israel doing to them? What is the horror story?

Is it anything like the kid that was in my orgo chemistry class that had left the west bank for the west? He felt that his life was in danger being gay.

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I personally know a Palestinian couple and they are nicest people you could ever possibly meet. Knowing these people it saddens me to see what Israel is doing to them. On the other hand it is wonderful to see countries from around the world recognising the Palestinian state. We just need Israel to put down thier big stick and we can have peace in the region.

Good post and right on the money.

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I personally know a Israeli couple and they are nicest people you could ever possibly meet. Knowing these people it saddens me to see what Hamas is doing to them. On the other hand it is wonderful to see most countries from around the world refusing to recognize the Palestinian state. We just need Hamas to put down their rockets and big stick and we can have peace in the region. :whistling:

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<br />I personally know a Israeli couple and they are nicest people you could ever possibly meet. Knowing these people it saddens me to see what Hamas is doing to them. On the other hand it is wonderful to see most countries from around the world refusing to recognize the Palestinian state. We just need Hamas to put down their rockets and big stick and we can have peace in the region. <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' /> <br /><br />
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Well everyone is intitled to a point of view and if asked I would side with the Patestinians. No one likes to see the little guy getting sand kicked in the face by the bullies.

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Socialist Morales will do anything to poke at US and Israel. Has nothing to do with support for Palestine per se.

Of course. ;)

Congratulations Bolivia for also poking the US and Israel

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Congratulations Bolivia for also poking the US and Israel

It seems that Moralas was not pleased with his description in Wikileaks. :lol:

WikiLeaks files continue revealing less diplomatic things about the first world countries: "Hugo Chavez is a clown, Daniel Ortega is a fool and Evo Morales is ignorant, according to some newspapers in the world."

http://www.latindailyfinancialnews.com/index.php/en/opinion/world/7252-wikileaks-reveals-records-against-chavez-ortega-and-evo-morales-.html

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I personally know a Palestinian couple and they are nicest people you could ever possibly meet. Knowing these people it saddens me to see what Israel is doing to them. On the other hand it is wonderful to see countries from around the world recognising the Palestinian state. We just need Israel to put down thier big stick and we can have peace in the region.

Just what exactly is Israel doing to them? What is the horror story?

Is it anything like the kid that was in my orgo chemistry class that had left the west bank for the west? He felt that his life was in danger being gay.

how about the blockade of gaza being state policy intended to inflict collective punishment, rather than to bolster israeli “security” ?

im glad to see some countries taking a stand against an oppressive regime.

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Until very recently both Egypt and Israel had a blockade on Gaza to stop weapons from entering, slow down rocket attacks and because Egypt does not want to recognize Hamas who are in control.

As long as rockets are reigning down on Israel, security is a darn good reason for being very careful about Gaza.

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Until very recently both Egypt and Israel had a blockade on Gaza to stop weapons from entering, slow down rocket attacks and because Egypt does not want to recognize Hamas who are in control.

As long as rockets are reigning down on Israel, security is a darn good reason for being very careful about Gaza.

"until very recently" ? i didn't realise the illegal blockade had been lifted. good news!

my post stated the exact opposite to yours. 'security' is the pretense behind which a whole population is slowly starved into submission.

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Both countries have eased the legal, defensive blockade and it is well known that plenty of food is allowed into Gaza even though rockets continue. Why make up things that are not true?

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A Gaza market, September 2009 (Photo: Reuters)

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Both countries have eased the legal, defensive blockade and it is well known that plenty of food is allowed into Gaza even though rockets continue. Why make up things that are not true?

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A Gaza market, September 2009 (Photo: Reuters)

haha...i love the photos. thanks, i feel much better for seeing them. look how much food there is !

but now i am confused. when you said 'Until very recently both Egypt and Israel had a blockade on Gaza' what you actually meant was 'a continuing, unjustified and illegal blockade on gaza' !? :whistling: (in before you use this icon)

perhaps what you refer to was an easing of restrictions, paraded in front of the international community as some sort of Israeli handout. sadly 21 different groups, including oxfam, amnesty and save the children all said there has been "little improvement" for people in gaza since the blockade was amended.

as for your claim 'plenty of food is allowed into Gaza', the state of israel has approved a policy of deliberate reduction of basic goods, including food and fuel. dietary needs for the population of gaza are chillingly calculated, and the amounts of food let in by the israeli government measured to remain just enough to keep the population alive at a near-starvation level. :rolleyes: (in before you use this icon)

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The people of Gaza are not starving or even near starving. However, Hamas itself is corrupt and targets supplies mostly to their own supporters. So really blame Hamas, not Israel, and you would be closer to the real truth.

This is the classic problem with food aid in ANY COUNTRY when corrupt powers are in control.

As far as Bolivia and other leftist leaders "recognizing" Palestine, I think they have a right to do so, but I don't see such actions as being peace promoting. Peace will only break out if there are direct negotiations between the actual parties in the conflict.

The UN recognizing countries doesn't always mean peace. Look at the actual history in 1948. The UN recognizing the Jewish state of Israel and immediately the Arabs launched military attacks.

I realize super lefties love this "recognize Palestine" movement and this is a real thing happening. However, for rational people, the acid test is whether this will actually bring peace to the region. Almost definitely, it will not, so why the excitement?

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The people of Gaza are not starving or even near starving. However, Hamas itself is corrupt and targets supplies mostly to their own supporters. So really blame Hamas, not Israel, and you would be closer to the real truth.

This is the classic problem with food aid in ANY COUNTRY when corrupt powers are in control.

As far as Bolivia and other leftist leaders "recognizing" Palestine, I think they have a right to do so, but I don't see such actions as being peace promoting. Peace will only break out if there are direct negotiations between the actual parties in the conflict.

The UN recognizing countries doesn't always mean peace. Look at the actual history in 1948. The UN recognizing the Jewish state of Israel and immediately the Arabs launched military attacks.

I realize super lefties love this "recognize Palestine" movement and this is a real thing happening. However, for rational people, the acid test is whether this will actually bring peace to the region. Almost definitely, it will not, so why the excitement?

i suppose then that you see the photos as something other than propaganda ? the israeli government itself admits the blockade was originally tightened as part of a policy of "deliberately reducing" basic goods for people in gaza in order to put pressure on hamas. collective punishment is illegal no matter what side of the political spectrum you lean toward.

your comparison of 'lefties' and 'rational people' is poor form.

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No, I'm just sick and tired of the super leftists only seeing this as a one sided thing, Israel as evil, Gazans as pure saintly victims, when it is actually a much more complex situation with plenty of blame to go around. The path to peace begins with a much more balanced picture of the actual reality.

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Can the false propoganda.

“Forget Gaza. Do you see any of us starving in here? No. Gaza is a diversion tactic,”

Ahmad, the Arabic editor of Maan news.

:whistling:

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No, I'm just sick and tired of the super leftists only seeing this as a one sided thing, Israel as evil, Gazans as pure saintly victims, when it is actually a much more complex situation with plenty of blame to go around. The path to peace begins with a much more balanced picture of the actual reality.

i am all for balance - which isn't 'lefties vs the rest of us.

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Can the false propoganda.

“Forget Gaza. Do you see any of us starving in here? No. Gaza is a diversion tactic,”

Ahmad, the Arabic editor of Maan news.

:whistling:

this post is ridiculous. uploads to youtube by users israeligirl and mordechay100 vs actual reports by aid organizations and israeli government.

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No, I'm just sick and tired of the super leftists only seeing this as a one sided thing, Israel as evil, Gazans as pure saintly victims, when it is actually a much more complex situation with plenty of blame to go around. The path to peace begins with a much more balanced picture of the actual reality.

i am all for balance - which isn't 'lefties vs the rest of us.

Fair enough but please face the reality. The left wing, particularly the EUROPEAN left wing has been on a campaign now for years to delegitimize and demonize Israel and quite often the majority of global Jews that do support the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state (which is not the same thing as approving of all of Israel's government's actual policies). They have had a good degree of success in their efforts. However, back to my point, how that exactly is going to bring peace to that region is an entirely different matter.

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Can the false propoganda.

"Forget Gaza. Do you see any of us starving in here? No. Gaza is a diversion tactic,"

Ahmad, the Arabic editor of Maan news.

:whistling:

this post is ridiculous.

Seeing is believing. Unsupported accusations are so much hot air.

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