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Hi guys

Just installed a new windows xp package with all drivers and now my computer is dloading anything no faster than 15kbps.

Its normally 200, can anyone help....?

Posted

Do you have "Automatic Updates" enabled? It's possible that Windows updates are being downloaded (in the background) which can slow down browsing and file transfers.

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Do you have "Automatic Updates" enabled? It's possible that Windows updates are being downloaded (in the background) which can slow down browsing and file transfers.

No nothing in the background.

Are there some sort of internet settings I can change... I remember someone talking about changing something before to make the connection faster...?

Posted

Some tweaks can be applied, but I don't recommend you take this route unless you know what you're 'tweaking'. Default Windows network settings should work just fine.

BTW, check your browser proxy settings. Make sure no proxy server is configured.

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Some tweaks can be applied, but I don't recommend you take this route unless you know what you're 'tweaking'. Default Windows network settings should work just fine.

BTW, check your browser proxy settings. Make sure no proxy server is configured.

Woo Im back

Internet sorted itself out, everything fast as usual.

Cheers Super

Posted

you should upgrade to windows 7,instead of 10 year old windows dinoseur

If XP worked before, why swap and pay MS a chunk more money???????????

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you should upgrade to windows 7,instead of 10 year old windows dinoseur

If XP worked before, why swap and pay MS a chunk more money???????????

  1. Better Security.
  2. Faster Operation.
  3. More intuitive for the non-technical.
  4. Cool features
  5. Lots of eye candy.
  6. Automatic maintenance.
  7. XP will not be supported after 2014, which is a little over 3 years from now. So you will eventually have to upgrade away from XP and eventually give MS a chunk more money. Why wait??? The only exception not to upgrade, would be if your current hardware is not supported under Windows 7.

That is unless you are an avid DOS fan. I know there are some who won't upgrade to Windows.

Change is inevitable!

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you should upgrade to windows 7,instead of 10 year old windows dinoseur

If XP worked before, why swap and pay MS a chunk more money???????????

  1. Better Security.
  2. Faster Operation.
  3. More intuitive for the non-technical.
  4. Cool features
  5. Lots of eye candy.
  6. Automatic maintenance.
  7. XP will not be supported after 2014, which is a little over 3 years from now. So you will eventually have to upgrade away from XP and eventually give MS a chunk more money. Why wait??? The only exception not to upgrade, would be if your current hardware is not supported under Windows 7.

That is unless you are an avid DOS fan. I know there are some who won't upgrade to Windows.

Change is inevitable!

At the moment my laptop is only on 2gb ram and is quite old. I know I can run w7 on it but Id rather wait till I had 4ram upwards to try out the beast.

I do however like xp, it has been serviced so many times now that it is incrediby reliable.

After the Vista disaster I wanna wait a bit until W7 is a bit older aswell.

Posted

you should upgrade to windows 7,instead of 10 year old windows dinoseur

If XP worked before, why swap and pay MS a chunk more money???????????

  1. Better Security.
  2. Faster Operation.
  3. More intuitive for the non-technical.
  4. Cool features
  5. Lots of eye candy.
  6. Automatic maintenance.
  7. XP will not be supported after 2014, which is a little over 3 years from now. So you will eventually have to upgrade away from XP and eventually give MS a chunk more money. Why wait??? The only exception not to upgrade, would be if your current hardware is not supported under Windows 7.

That is unless you are an avid DOS fan. I know there are some who won't upgrade to Windows.

Change is inevitable!

If you want security, go for Linux. I will in 2013.

More intuitive? Read here: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7files/thread/50a81b05-da98-4d55-821d-55ffbbd0e998/

Plenty of people have hardware, eg printers, that don't work on Win7.

Cool features, eye candy? I want a computer, not a toy.

Automatic maintenance? Never heard of it.

Faster operation - you mean it starts up and shuts down quicker?

I think you hit the nail on the head with: "More intuitive for the non-technical". Under the hood, it's a mess.

Posted

you should upgrade to windows 7,instead of 10 year old windows dinoseur

If XP worked before, why swap and pay MS a chunk more money???????????

  1. Better Security.
  2. Faster Operation.
  3. More intuitive for the non-technical.
  4. Cool features
  5. Lots of eye candy.
  6. Automatic maintenance.
  7. XP will not be supported after 2014, which is a little over 3 years from now. So you will eventually have to upgrade away from XP and eventually give MS a chunk more money. Why wait??? The only exception not to upgrade, would be if your current hardware is not supported under Windows 7.

That is unless you are an avid DOS fan. I know there are some who won't upgrade to Windows.

Change is inevitable!

More memory needed

New versions of programmes needed (in some cases)

etc

New is not always better, just look at the Vista disaster.............. :whistling:

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I agree the Vista disaster was a mess. :thumbsup:

Microsoft has certainly learned from the disaster.

I certainly had my reservations, that's why I waited till others had tried it. Now that I'm using it, I find it much better and wouldn't hesitate upgrading. I also wouldn't ever go back to Windows XP.

As far as my comment "More intuitive for the non-technical". I can only say that ALL the technophobic people that I know, caught on to it very quickly (much quicker than me)! Nowadays, I very seldom get a call from them asking:

  1. How do you do this?
  2. What does this mean?

Now for the technically inclined, well familiar to Windows XP, that's a different story. It is not so intuitive. There is much more to learn, in particular to the security, configuration, and maintenance issues. Many things are not the same.

As far as software compatibility issues.You can use Microsoft Ugrade advisor to advise you on software an drivers that may be a problem along with a solution.

As with all new OS's drivers may be a problem. many drivers already are available for Windows 7 (due to popularity). Vista drivers always work, and many XP sp 3 drivers also work. I managed to find a device driver for all my hardware drivers with no problem. The Windows 7 setup managed to come up with a compatible driver for most of my hardware devices. and it was easy to find drivers for the others.

In regards to programs/applications. Windows 7 supports anything that works on Windows XP sp 3 (there is a compatibility option you can set for all applications) with only a very few exceptions. Microsoft's upgrade advisor will detect an offer a solution with known compatibility issues. For me, it detected two issues that I easily resolved. In 2010 most of the popular applications were made to be Windows 7 compatible. The major issue was the Administrator rights issue.

My major issue was file and folders not created under Windows 7, I had to take ownership of, which is very easy once you learn. Ownership does not change your rights and privileges, but allows you to make changes to the security settings including accessibility.

I find that the memory manager in Windows 7 is much better than Windows XP. On XP, I would consistently use over 2GB of RAM. With Windows 7, I have never used more than 1.5 GB of ram. Most XP users have at least 1GB of RAM installed for XP to work efficiently. Almost every motherboard allows you to install 2GB of memory.All 32 bit versions of Windows cannot access than a little more than 3GB. So the memory is a non issue. It's cheap and easy to upgrade.

With that said, Windows 7 64 bit is a different animal. Many motherboards do not support more than 3GB of RAM, there are many hardware devices which drivers are not available (however it's improving). And there are more compatibility issues with programs and applications (which also is improving). I have a dual boot 32 bit/64 bit Windows 7 installations. I have found many of my programs that work on the 32 bit installation, do not work on 64 bit installation.

Now for the Geeks, most geeks have many utilities to tweak XP. Most of these will not work on Windows 7! However the tweaks for Vista will work. Geeks and hackers have created Windows 7 replacements and many many more. So now, it is much easier to tweak Windows 7 than XP.

And finally for those rare occasions, you can always install Windows XP in a virtual machine. YOU DO NOT NEED Windows 7 Ultimate XP mode! There are several solutions that integrate well into Windows 7.

So there are very few reasons not to upgrade, unless you have a Pentium or older class machine.

Things do get better over time. ;)

Posted

On XP, I would consistently use over 2GB of RAM.

I consider myself to be a heavy user, even then I barely hit the 1GB mark in XP. The highest memory usage I've seen is about 1.2GB -- which in my 10 years of using XP, is extremely rare. Unless you're running desktop publishing apps like AutoCAD or Adobe Premier, I don't see how you can possibly use that much RAM.

So now, it is much easier to tweak Windows 7 than XP.

That's a matter of opinion.

I find it to be more or less the same.

Posted

I agree the Vista disaster was a mess. :thumbsup:

Microsoft has certainly learned from the disaster.

I certainly had my reservations, that's why I waited till others had tried it. Now that I'm using it, I find it much better and wouldn't hesitate upgrading. I also wouldn't ever go back to Windows XP.

As far as my comment "More intuitive for the non-technical". I can only say that ALL the technophobic people that I know, caught on to it very quickly (much quicker than me)! Nowadays, I very seldom get a call from them asking:

  1. How do you do this?
  2. What does this mean?

Now for the technically inclined, well familiar to Windows XP, that's a different story. It is not so intuitive. There is much more to learn, in particular to the security, configuration, and maintenance issues. Many things are not the same.

As far as software compatibility issues.You can use Microsoft Ugrade advisor to advise you on software an drivers that may be a problem along with a solution.

As with all new OS's drivers may be a problem. many drivers already are available for Windows 7 (due to popularity). Vista drivers always work, and many XP sp 3 drivers also work. I managed to find a device driver for all my hardware drivers with no problem. The Windows 7 setup managed to come up with a compatible driver for most of my hardware devices. and it was easy to find drivers for the others.

In regards to programs/applications. Windows 7 supports anything that works on Windows XP sp 3 (there is a compatibility option you can set for all applications) with only a very few exceptions. Microsoft's upgrade advisor will detect an offer a solution with known compatibility issues. For me, it detected two issues that I easily resolved. In 2010 most of the popular applications were made to be Windows 7 compatible. The major issue was the Administrator rights issue.

My major issue was file and folders not created under Windows 7, I had to take ownership of, which is very easy once you learn. Ownership does not change your rights and privileges, but allows you to make changes to the security settings including accessibility. Use Easy Transfer Wizard

I find that the memory manager in Windows 7 is much better than Windows XP. On XP, I would consistently use over 2GB of RAM. With Windows 7, I have never used more than 1.5 GB of ram. Most XP users have at least 1GB of RAM installed for XP to work efficiently. Almost every motherboard allows you to install 2GB of memory.All 32 bit versions of Windows cannot access than a little more than 3GB. So the memory is a non issue. It's cheap and easy to upgrade.

With that said, Windows 7 64 bit is a different animal. Many motherboards do not support more than 3GB of RAM (WRONG. How old is your mainboard eg, I have 8gb installed), there are many hardware devices which drivers are not available (however it's improving). And there are more compatibility issues with programs and applications (which also is improving). I have a dual boot 32 bit/64 bit Windows 7 installations WHY?. I have found many of my programs that work on the 32 bit installation, do not work on 64 bit installation. Check your installation or provide examples

Now for the Geeks, most geeks have many utilities to tweak XP. Most of these will not work on Windows 7! However the tweaks for Vista will work. Geeks and hackers have created Windows 7 replacements and many many more. So now, it is much easier to tweak Windows 7 than XP.

And finally for those rare occasions, you can always install Windows XP in a virtual machine. YOU DO NOT NEED Windows 7 Ultimate XP mode! There are several solutions that integrate well into Windows 7.

So there are very few reasons not to upgrade, unless you have a Pentium or older class machine.

Things do get better over time. ;)

I am running programs and system tools released in early 2003 on Win7 64 and have only had issues with programs which also failed on WinXP.

The greatest problem I have seen with Windows 7 is poor installation causing a degraded performance and stability.

Side by side testing between Win7 and WinXP shows minor performance differences on entry level machines (1-2gb RAM), including Netbooks. This does however depend on the original installation as errors, on either system, will compond causing reliability problems.

If you require easy access to Win7 configurations you can make a new folder on one of your partitions and rename it

"GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}" (without the quotes) "GodMode" is the label you will see and it can be altered to something else such as "WinConfig"

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Eureka, to give you some answers to you comments:

With that said, Windows 7 64 bit is a different animal. Many motherboards do not support more than 3GB of RAM (WRONG. How old is your mainboard eg, I have 8gb installed)

My Asus P5KPL motherboard which was bought 3 years ago anticipating the eventual upgrade to a 64 bit system to use 4GB. I had 3 GB initially installed. Even though there were enough memory slots for 4GB. This year when I went to add the the extra 1GB (same kind of memory) all it would do was beep on POST. out one of the memory cards to drop it down to 3GB, it worked fine. I then moved one of the cards to the empty slot. It worked fine(slot was okay). Then I exchanged one of the memory cards for the new one that was removed It worked fine (memory card okay). Added 4th memory card (again beeping computer on POST), I then tested by removing the memory cards one at a time. Each time there was 3GB, it worked fine. Every time it had 4 GB it would beep continuously during POST.

I took the same set of memory cards and placed into an Asus P5QL PRO motherboard which supports up to 16GB it worked fine. It became apparent, the P5KPL motherboard would not support more than 3GB of memory.

There are many motherboards made in the past 5 years that only support 2GB (in particularly in laptops).

I have a dual boot 32 bit/64 bit Windows 7 installations WHY?.

Very simple. My 32 bit Windows 7 system has my complete system that I use daily. The goal is to eventually have the 64 bit system to be my final system. It's a migration path until I get the 64 bit system up and running tested and debugged using the same hardware. When the 64 bit is complete and proved to be reliable, the 32 bit system will be removed.

Some of my programs that work on the 32 bit installation, do not work on 64 bit installation. Check your installation or provide examples

Off the top of my head, I can't remember examples that I have found not to work. It's not a high priority item and I work on the migration when I have time (again the reason for the dual boot migration). I'm far too busy to look into it more right now, but I will definitely will be looking more into it to determine the exact problem. I will be more than happy to provide examples when I come up with concrete answers.;)

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Eureka, to give you some answers to you comments:

With that said, Windows 7 64 bit is a different animal. Many motherboards do not support more than 3GB of RAM (WRONG. How old is your mainboard eg, I have 8gb installed)

My Asus P5KPL motherboard which was bought 3 years ago anticipating the eventual upgrade to a 64 bit system to use 4GB. I had 3 GB initially installed. Even though there were enough memory slots for 4GB. This year when I went to add the the extra 1GB (same kind of memory) all it would do was beep on POST. out one of the memory cards to drop it down to 3GB, it worked fine. I then moved one of the cards to the empty slot. It worked fine(slot was okay). Then I exchanged one of the memory cards for the new one that was removed It worked fine (memory card okay). Added 4th memory card (again beeping computer on POST), I then tested by removing the memory cards one at a time. Each time there was 3GB, it worked fine. Every time it had 4 GB it would beep continuously during POST.

I took the same set of memory cards and placed into an Asus P5QL PRO motherboard which supports up to 16GB it worked fine. It became apparent, the P5KPL motherboard would not support more than 3GB of memory.

There are many motherboards made in the past 5 years that only support 2GB (in particularly in laptops).

I have a dual boot 32 bit/64 bit Windows 7 installations WHY?.

Very simple. My 32 bit Windows 7 system has my complete system that I use daily. The goal is to eventually have the 64 bit system to be my final system. It's a migration path until I get the 64 bit system up and running tested and debugged using the same hardware. When the 64 bit is complete and proved to be reliable, the 32 bit system will be removed.

Some of my programs that work on the 32 bit installation, do not work on 64 bit installation. Check your installation or provide examples

Off the top of my head, I can't remember examples that I have found not to work. It's not a high priority item and I work on the migration when I have time (again the reason for the dual boot migration). I'm far too busy to look into it more right now, but I will definitely will be looking more into it to determine the exact problem. I will be more than happy to provide examples when I come up with concrete answers.;)

ASUS list only 4 models of DDR2 RAM from all manufacturers which have been tested to work as a single pair for a total of 4Gb and only 1 model of DDR2 RAM from 1 manufacturer will allow 4x1Gb for a total of 4Gb. In contrast there are over 70 different 1Gb modules listed for the P5QL Pro. Not all RAM is the same, even from the same manufacturer and a mainboard which only accepts 3Gb is suffering from either a faulty board (not the case) or unqualified RAM modules.

"There are many motherboards made in the past 5 years that only support 2GB (in particularly in laptops)." This is a VERY general statement as the term many is subjective. If it is to mean that a large percentage of mainboards produced in the last 5 years only support a maximum of 2Gb then unfortunately your research is seriously flawed.

Netbooks are a separate category and not to be confused with Notebooks.

All that is needed is a single example of a desktop mainboard or a notebook which is limited to 2Gb. I seriously doubt an example can be given.

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My Asus P5KPL motherboard which was bought 3 years ago anticipating the eventual upgrade to a 64 bit system to use 4GB. I had 3 GB initially installed. Even though there were enough memory slots for 4GB. This year when I went to add the the extra 1GB (same kind of memory) all it would do was beep on POST. out one of the memory cards to drop it down to 3GB, it worked fine. I then moved one of the cards to the empty slot. It worked fine(slot was okay). Then I exchanged one of the memory cards for the new one that was removed It worked fine (memory card okay). Added 4th memory card (again beeping computer on POST), I then tested by removing the memory cards one at a time. Each time there was 3GB, it worked fine. Every time it had 4 GB it would beep continuously during POST.

Memory controller or BIOS limitation -- 1T Command Rate. If the system does not boot after adding more memory, try changing the Command Rate to two clock cycles (2T). Either that or lower the DRAM frequency (e.g. DDR400 @ 333Mhz).

In short, you'll need to adjust the memory timings accordingly.

I took the same set of memory cards and placed into an Asus P5QL PRO motherboard which supports up to 16GB it worked fine. It became apparent, the P5KPL motherboard would not support more than 3GB of memory.

Having the same set of RAM modules work on different mobo isn't saying much; in fact, it doesn't mean anything at all. Did you even attempt to adjust the memory timings in the P5KPL BIOS? Try it and see... You might be in for BIG a surprise.

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