Alcohol Banned In 110 Parks In Thailand

[Deeral]

What a knee jerk...

Precisely - THe incident was on 26 Dec and a ruling has come out just 2 days later - how could anyone suggest that this is anything but a knee-jerk reaction.????????????

Quite apart from the issue of whether or not alcohol should be allowed in National parks this is a fine example of how to be a <deleted>......

THe person responsible for this "pronouncement" should either resign or be sacked.how can you possibly make a decision on a national scale without consultation or research?THis is yet ANOTHER example of the appalling inadequacies of the people in power in Thailand -

I'd like to see the methods and staff training that has been put in place to implement this - they will of course have to search every vehicle going in ad out of National Parks, produce print and erect new signs to tell people of the new regulations and set up a supervisory body to make sure the bewildered park staff don't succumb to temptation and start taking bribes.

what will happen to the confiscated booze???

I expect it will be held "in rust" at the gate so those unaware of the new regulations will be able to pick it up on the way out again????

Or will they just sell it on to the next person to come in???

I won't say what I think of the guy who introduced this, but it rhymes (very closely) with "fuc_king moron"

A tad OTT don't you think? This is hardly a matter of serious national interest is it? Would you prefer the time honoured Thai way of doing this by forming a committee to investigate and report with a recommendation for positive action? Of course you would have to form another committee to decide who would form part of the investigating committee. Then the sole matters to be discussed for the first three months would be how often the committee met, (meetings would have to be fitted in around shopping trips abroad or appointments to have toenails trimmed) and dominating affairs would be just how much the meeting allowance should be. The whole thing would drag on and then be quietly forgotten. It's nice to see an executive taking executive action for once. Who knows, the idea might spread to other areas. (This scenario is also a tad OTT)

Quote:

"Affirming that park officials were also prohibited from drinking and selling booze, Suwit said that if there were any sale of alcohol in the parks, the park chiefs and involved persons would be punished. Tourists could also report violation of the ban via the hotline 1362 around the clock." Unquote.

Who needs time to implement this edict? If I were a park chief I'd have a readable and readily understandable (NOT in officialese) copy of the regulation typed up in both Thai and English, run off copies - not forgetting to send one to my wife/Icousin/ brother in law/influential person who just happened to own a printing business - and hand a copy to the person paying the admission fee. All employees would also receive a copy. A few signs that catch the eye should be erected at entrances also.That would be my back covered.

It is good to see those in any authority would be brought to book if they are not do doing the job they are paid to do but TIT so whether this comes about is questionable. Maybe this concept could be brought to bear upon BiB?

In the wider area of public drinking of alcohol I would support a move to control public drinking. I like a drink myself in fact, in my younger days, I drank to excess for a while until my body protested and a couple of doctors pointed out the stupidity of my actions. I refer to the practice of the hooligan/yob element who think it is acceptable to sashay down the street, beer in hand and taking the occasional swig. They are an eyesore to those of gentler upbringing, those with families in tow, those of a certain religion now visiting in significant numbers and constitute a physical threat in the minds of the nervous. I am sure that the majority of folk would be happy to see the intake of a poison confined to bars and open air areas attached to cafes and bars. To soften the blow perhaps designated areas such as the sois between Second and Beach roads, Soi Cowboy, Nana and places like that could be exempt so that there would be areas of 'anything goes' to keep those of who favour personal anarchy. Of course there will be protests about the infringement of personal rights from those with Neanderthal leanings but most, I suggest, do not want too many parts of Thailand to be Dodge City before the Earp period re-enacted.

UI would say your comments are largely surmise and well wide of the mark.

[Shiver]

It doesn't take alcohol for people to kill, get rowdy and obnoxious and disturb the peace. If they want those actions to cease they should punish those actions. Blanket rules which effect everyone including those that are responsible, which I would say is the majority, is not right.

Amen.

While we're at it, can we have a ban on Karaoke machines please? Or perhaps a decibel tax. That way you can scoop the noisy alchol fuelled revellers, and other benefits would be manifold throughout the nation! Aye but the subtle knife would once again evade detection.

[MrBrad]

I like the jibe that it's Tourists who are also a big part of the problem......

"In the past, we used to ask tourists not to bring in alcoholic beverages, but many still smuggled them in and caused disturbance to others. So we want tourists to understand that the parks are now alcohol-free zones and violators will be punished."

I've never seen an unruly group of 'tourists' smashed out of their brains playing music at 200 decibels, yelling and screaming and going out of their way to annoy everybody else in the immediate surrounds. If we go for a picnic or bbq it's usually a couple of quiet Singhas under a tree while the food is cooking.

I think that the Thai term for what otherwise might be considered "visitors" to the parks is "nak tong tio." And nak tong tio does translate to "tourists," which could be either domestic tourists or foreign tourists. Having not seen the official bulletin though, I'm going out on a limb here with my take on it.

[Deeral]

It doesn't take alcohol for people to kill, get rowdy and obnoxious and disturb the peace. If they want those actions to cease they should punish those actions. Blanket rules which effect everyone including those that are responsible, which I would say is the majority, is not right.

Amen.

While we're at it, can we have a ban on Karaoke machines please? Or perhaps a decibel tax. That way you can scoop the noisy alchol fuelled revellers, and other benefits would be manifold throughout the nation! Aye but the subtle knife would once again evade detection.

"It doesn't take alcohol for people to kill, get rowdy and obnoxious and disturb the peace" - but it helps!

[Tiffer]

I like the jibe that it's Tourists who are also a big part of the problem......

I think that the Thai term for what otherwise might be considered "visitors" to the parks is "nak tong tio." And nak tong tio does translate to "tourists," which could be either domestic tourists or foreign tourists. Having not seen the official bulletin though, I'm going out on a limb here with my take on it.

To be called a "Tourist" is not ugly however, depending on self image some may prefer visitor / traveller / explorer etc.

To open the debate on what constitutes a tourist requires a new thread but we should acknowledge that domestic tourism in Thailand is predominately weekend trips and this is especially true for Khao Yai where the ratio of visitor numbers (not days) is some 10:1 domestic:international.

[DonGato]

Great news!!!... I hope it really happen and the National Parks become a bit more of what they should be...

...as for paying high prices as a farang, bring your documents and it will be ok... however, I have to say that I'm happy

to pay in the National Parks, as you can see good roads and good trails... it is money in a good cause and it truly is

a whole lot less than I spend with my friends on a saturday night party!... just my opinion and my feeling on the matter...

[thaiphoon]

1 post removed. Keep to topic please.

[kelboy]

:shock1:

It doesn't take alcohol for people to kill, get rowdy and obnoxious and disturb the peace. If they want those actions to cease they should punish those actions. Blanket rules which effect everyone including those that are responsible, which I would say is the majority, is not right.

Amen.

While we're at it, can we have a ban on Karaoke machines please? Or perhaps a decibel tax. That way you can scoop the noisy alchol fuelled revellers, and other benefits would be manifold throughout the nation! Aye but the subtle knife would once again evade detection.

i go camping alot as do many thais and we all have a few beers and fun.SO why the n.z... have to spoil it for everyone.the only ones to not to win is the parks as we will go somewhere else.BUT FOR THE PARKS THEY WILL (AS THEY DO) JUST SELL DRUGS maybe i just dont no but i think you all do? let those who want a beer have a beer and them (a small number) who make problems let the police take them away.AND those against drinking just stay in the wardrobe , we might just find out something bad about YOU TOO....

:jap:

[action]

Nice to see so many people agree with this new rule, however....

Do any of you REALLY think that this move will change anything?? Keeping in mind that prostitution is banned in Thailand, Porno is banned, talking on the phone while driving, more than 2 people on a motorbike, no helmet, driving the wrong way on the road, selling counterfeit goods, running red lights...... Pulling knives on people at the beach! These things are all "Banned" in Thailand. You have to be a real fool to think this will make any difference. Selling alcohol during certain hours of the day is "banned" but I can't even remember the hours because I can buy beers 24/7 all year round.

I'll bet that I can go to any national park in Thailand tomorrow and drink openly with no issue. If I am approached, 200 baht and a whiskey soda will grant me the right to hide the bottle and carry on. Open your eyes people, laws don't mean anything if they are not enforced. There may be a "crackdown" on public drunkenness but 6 months from now everything will be back to normal.

[dude007]

First of all pay five times the Thai price to get into these public attractions. Arriving there with nerves shattered through the insane driving of these mini-buses. Personally l require something a lot stronger than alcohol!

I rarely pay the inflated prices for anything....in fact I have not for a long time now, if there is some place that insists on it, I dont go there....simple really.

As for insane minivan drivers...why do you put up with it ?? Tell them to drive sensibly or stop and call for a new driver....or drive yourself......and don't pay. many ways around it, no reason at all to tolerate it.....more fool you if you do.

Fix the first 2 problems and you will not need the alcohol...or stronger meds.

Mind you...there are still plenty of other idiots to deal with.

Nawtier, I pity you! You'r too simple to reply on your remarks and too immature...

[nisakiman]

All the drunks and alcies up in arms i see....cannot go for a night or 2 without a drink......'a thoroughly disgusting announcement' ?? ....really ??

You must have a hangover to be so over the top about such a good decision.

I hope they take it a step further and ban smoking in all the National Parks also.

Oh yes, jolly good idea!

And while we're at it, let's ban all that obnoxious perfume and aftershave that people wear. I really don't like it.

And loud shirts.

In fact, maybe they should ban ugly people too. The parks would be so much nicer if they only let beautiful people in.

Ooh, yes, let's ban cars too. Dirty polluting things.....

Nawtier, I think you need to get a life. You come across as an obnoxios and intolerant bigot. A zealot who cares only for his own warped vision of how the world should be.

God how I despise the self-righteous, holier-than-thou crowd, forever trying to tell everyone how to live their lives...

[warfie]

Here's an idea, since the incident occurred in a national park, let's ban people from national parks...

Another idea, since an average of 35 people die in road accidents every day (2005 figures) let's ban all motor vehicles...

1 Guy died in a knife fight, BUT WAIT there was a can of beer nearby! ergo; ban alcohol!

[billd766]

All the drunks and alcies up in arms i see....cannot go for a night or 2 without a drink......'a thoroughly disgusting announcement' ?? ....really ??

You must have a hangover to be so over the top about such a good decision.

I hope they take it a step further and ban smoking in all the National Parks also.

Oh yes, jolly good idea!

And while we're at it, let's ban all that obnoxious perfume and aftershave that people wear. I really don't like it.

And loud shirts.

In fact, maybe they should ban ugly people too. The parks would be so much nicer if they only let beautiful people in.

Ooh, yes, let's ban cars too. Dirty polluting things.....

Nawtier, I think you need to get a life. You come across as an obnoxios and intolerant bigot. A zealot who cares only for his own warped vision of how the world should be.

God how I despise the self-righteous, holier-than-thou crowd, forever trying to tell everyone how to live their lives...

Leave us loud shirted ugly people alone. At least we are happy and bother nobody.

[Deeral]

I still don't see the ban as the primary issue - it is the way it has been introduced that is so inherently arrogant and stupid.

UIt may well be that cars, booze etc need banning from parks, but there has to be an infrastructure in place to enforce this and ensure it benefits the park.all I can see is a wave of petty bribes and people smuggling in booze which in turn will lead to confrontations amongst park visitors and authorities.

[Tanlic]

Only read part of this.was enough . Someone said at last somewhere to take the kids.

Apart from the sand and the water what's the difffernece bewteen a park and a beach?

Are beaches to be next?

Prohabition of any sort doesn't work and only invite crime.

It would take a million cops alone to police Bangkok shops who sell beer outwith their silly laws

And another 10 million to cover all the parks in Thialand

Have these people never heard of the roaring twenties?

Al Capone RIP

It's like the 7/11 ban

Kids want ro drink banning sales between 2 and 5 isn't going to stop them.

It's like trying to beat someone into doing something with a stick ..all you do is make them hate and defy you.

[Deeral]

Only read part of this.was enough . Someone said at last somewhere to take the kids.

Apart from the sand and the water what's the difffernece bewteen a park and a beach?

Are beaches to be next?

Prohabition of any sort doesn't work and only invite crime.

It would take a million cops alone to police Bangkok shops who sell beer outwith their silly laws

And another 10 million to cover all the parks in Thialand

Have these people never heard of the roaring twenties?

Al Capone RIP

It's like the 7/11 ban

Kids want ro drink banning sales between 2 and 5 isn't going to stop them.

It's like trying to beat someone into doing something with a stick ..all you do is make them hate and defy you.

I would pretty much agree with the above - except it doesn't really justify one way or another the knee-jery introduction as done by the Thai govt.

THere is no provision for drinking at the campsites in the parks and rowdy drinking creates noise that pollutes the whole experience. I'm convinced myself that banning will not and cannot work - so this makes this knee-jerk even more ridiculous.What is needed is a plan to mange the parks better - environmentally etc etc - this would include a policy to prevent the more antisocial effects of heavy drinking.

[Nawtier]

Nawtier, I pity you! You'r too simple to reply on your remarks and too immature...

really.....I guess you are one the weak that will sit in a minivan while the driver tries to kill you.

It just takes a bit of balls dude to call an idiot an idiot and to stand up for yourself.....you may pick this trait up as you get older and mature a little yourself.

[Nawtier]

All the drunks and alcies up in arms i see....cannot go for a night or 2 without a drink......'a thoroughly disgusting announcement' ?? ....really ??

You must have a hangover to be so over the top about such a good decision.

I hope they take it a step further and ban smoking in all the National Parks also.

Oh yes, jolly good idea!

In fact, maybe they should ban ugly people too. The parks would be so much nicer if they only let beautiful people in.

Nawtier, I think you need to get a life. You come across as an obnoxios and intolerant bigot. A zealot who cares only for his own warped vision of how the world should be.

God how I despise the self-righteous, holier-than-thou crowd, forever trying to tell everyone how to live their lives...

You sound like you could be a smoker, the kind that drops his filthy butts anywhere he pleases, including a national park.

You do not need alcohol to appreciate nature and get drunk amongst it, if you do, then perhaps this ban is a good thing and will keep your type away.

A national park is a small part of the country, you can drink everywhere else to your hearts content......just not in a natural environment that is protected for the benefit of the wildlife, not you...the wildlife and flora...get it ??

[Nawtier]

All the drunks and alcies up in arms i see....cannot go for a night or 2 without a drink......'a thoroughly disgusting announcement' ?? ....really ??

You must have a hangover to be so over the top about such a good decision.

I hope they take it a step further and ban smoking in all the National Parks also.

Oh yes, jolly good idea!

In fact, maybe they should ban ugly people too. The parks would be so much nicer if they only let beautiful people in.

Nawtier, I think you need to get a life. You come across as an obnoxios and intolerant bigot. A zealot who cares only for his own warped vision of how the world should be.

God how I despise the self-righteous, holier-than-thou crowd, forever trying to tell everyone how to live their lives...

You sound like you could be a smoker, the kind that drops his filthy butts anywhere he pleases, including a national park.

You do not need alcohol to appreciate nature and get drunk amongst it, if you do, then perhaps this ban is a good thing and will keep your type away.

A national park is a small part of the country, you can drink everywhere else to your hearts content......just not in a natural environment that is protected for the benefit of the wildlife, not you...the wildlife and flora...get it ??

[ginjag]

Only read part of this.was enough . Someone said at last somewhere to take the kids.

Apart from the sand and the water what's the difffernece bewteen a park and a beach?

Are beaches to be next?

Prohabition of any sort doesn't work and only invite crime.

It would take a million cops alone to police Bangkok shops who sell beer outwith their silly laws

And another 10 million to cover all the parks in Thialand

Have these people never heard of the roaring twenties?

Al Capone RIP

It's like the 7/11 ban

Kids want ro drink banning sales between 2 and 5 isn't going to stop them.

It's like trying to beat someone into doing something with a stick ..all you do is make them hate and defy you.

I would pretty much agree with the above - except it doesn't really justify one way or another the knee-jery introduction as done by the Thai govt.

THere is no provision for drinking at the campsites in the parks and rowdy drinking creates noise that pollutes the whole experience. I'm convinced myself that banning will not and cannot work - so this makes this knee-jerk even more ridiculous.What is needed is a plan to mange the parks better - environmentally etc etc - this would include a policy to prevent the more antisocial effects of heavy drinking.

What the hell on earth are the businesses going to do on Koh Samet ??? its a national park. Will all the hotels send alcohol back to the wholesalers---shops, cafe,s, 55555555555555 Have a happy holiday on the Island--no alcohol----imagine Pattaya without--or Bkk---so the Island is finished ??????? this is a beach resort, itle feel like being in the middle east. Enjoy-----hope the businesses will be able to find buyers, excuse me if I am wrong, just thought it may apply to Samet

[Deeral]

Only read part of this.was enough . Someone said at last somewhere to take the kids.

Apart from the sand and the water what's the difffernece bewteen a park and a beach?

Are beaches to be next?

Prohabition of any sort doesn't work and only invite crime.

It would take a million cops alone to police Bangkok shops who sell beer outwith their silly laws

And another 10 million to cover all the parks in Thialand

Have these people never heard of the roaring twenties?

Al Capone RIP

It's like the 7/11 ban

Kids want ro drink banning sales between 2 and 5 isn't going to stop them.

It's like trying to beat someone into doing something with a stick ..all you do is make them hate and defy you.

I would pretty much agree with the above - except it doesn't really justify one way or another the knee-jery introduction as done by the Thai govt.

THere is no provision for drinking at the campsites in the parks and rowdy drinking creates noise that pollutes the whole experience. I'm convinced myself that banning will not and cannot work - so this makes this knee-jerk even more ridiculous.What is needed is a plan to mange the parks better - environmentally etc etc - this would include a policy to prevent the more antisocial effects of heavy drinking.

What the hell on earth are the businesses going to do on Koh Samet ??? its a national park. Will all the hotels send alcohol back to the wholesalers---shops, cafe,s, 55555555555555 Have a happy holiday on the Island--no alcohol----imagine Pattaya without--or Bkk---so the Island is finished ??????? this is a beach resort, itle feel like being in the middle east. Enjoy-----hope the businesses will be able to find buyers, excuse me if I am wrong, just thought it may apply to Samet

Yep - you're wrong - the private businesses can sell alcohol, so if you want a drink there you go.

[oldsailor35]

I strongly applaud this move - 11 years have taught me that despite the core Buddhist precept of awareness of ones own actions on all and everything around oneself, Thais generally are oblivious to the effect their actions and noise have on others - even more so when alcohol is involved (though that's a global phenomenon not just restricted to Thailand).

To the cynics and snipers like Tiffer above - consider how you train a dog not to take a dump on your carpet - when it does so, you beat it immediately so it can associate its action and the reactive punishment. There is no point in punishing the dog hours or days later, when it has no recollection of the event and no understanding of why it is being punished. The same is true of very small children - unacceptable action followed by immediate punishment or the lesson is meaningless.

In this instance, this "kneejerk" rule is exactly what is needed - it sends the message that actions like those on Boxing Day will not be tolerated, and that the actions of the minority will result in the removal the pleasure of the majority. Khunkitti is sending a message to the Thai people to shape up and think about what they do - that has to be applauded.

The more of these kneejerk total clampdowns that occur, the more the "law and order" message will be delivered and eventually enter into, and stick in, the empty coconuts that too many people (farang as well as Thai) have on the top of their necks. The only downside is if the restriction issuing gets out of order, and Thailand becomes as regulated as Australia or Britain. Hopefully, residents of all nationalities will wake up before that happens.

Now, maybe Khun Khunkitti can come and have words with the snooker hall next door to us, and shut down their all night raging noise and political propaganda assemblies?

Unfortunately this is a sad response as it completely ignores the issue and justifies itself because it happens to coincide with the posters own personal views.

Issue one - is HOW this "edict" was introduced

Issue two - is whether alcohol should be banned in National parks

I don't drink but I think as pointed out above that BANNING - alcohol is a pointless and unenforceable exercise and can only result in "punishment" for the random unlucky few.

BUTthe really appalling part of this is that some IDIOT can introduce this idea - unthought out and unplanned in an instant - it only reveals how incredibly limited the person's intellect must be.

If you are going to ban alcohol in National Parks then it is a matter for discussion debate and planning - this sort of pronouncement is banal in the extreme and those who can't see that should really sit bak and consider their own thinking on this.

Take a critical lok at this and then realise IT CAN"T POSSIBLY WORK and it totally defies both common sense AND normal democratic practices - a thoroughly disgusting announcement and Thailand should be ashamed that this sort of thing goes on and the guy should be SACKED!!

This sounds like the usual idiotic unplanned "Crackdowns" we get from the police from week to week. Where some half educated prawn of an officiall laying on his bed one morning suddenly has a brain wave !

[Deeral]

I strongly applaud this move - 11 years have taught me that despite the core Buddhist precept of awareness of ones own actions on all and everything around oneself, Thais generally are oblivious to the effect their actions and noise have on others - even more so when alcohol is involved (though that's a global phenomenon not just restricted to Thailand).

To the cynics and snipers like Tiffer above - consider how you train a dog not to take a dump on your carpet - when it does so, you beat it immediately so it can associate its action and the reactive punishment. There is no point in punishing the dog hours or days later, when it has no recollection of the event and no understanding of why it is being punished. The same is true of very small children - unacceptable action followed by immediate punishment or the lesson is meaningless.

In this instance, this "kneejerk" rule is exactly what is needed - it sends the message that actions like those on Boxing Day will not be tolerated, and that the actions of the minority will result in the removal the pleasure of the majority. Khunkitti is sending a message to the Thai people to shape up and think about what they do - that has to be applauded.

The more of these kneejerk total clampdowns that occur, the more the "law and order" message will be delivered and eventually enter into, and stick in, the empty coconuts that too many people (farang as well as Thai) have on the top of their necks. The only downside is if the restriction issuing gets out of order, and Thailand becomes as regulated as Australia or Britain. Hopefully, residents of all nationalities will wake up before that happens.

Now, maybe Khun Khunkitti can come and have words with the snooker hall next door to us, and shut down their all night raging noise and political propaganda assemblies?

Unfortunately this is a sad response as it completely ignores the issue and justifies itself because it happens to coincide with the posters own personal views.

Issue one - is HOW this "edict" was introduced

Issue two - is whether alcohol should be banned in National parks

I don't drink but I think as pointed out above that BANNING - alcohol is a pointless and unenforceable exercise and can only result in "punishment" for the random unlucky few.

BUTthe really appalling part of this is that some IDIOT can introduce this idea - unthought out and unplanned in an instant - it only reveals how incredibly limited the person's intellect must be.

If you are going to ban alcohol in National Parks then it is a matter for discussion debate and planning - this sort of pronouncement is banal in the extreme and those who can't see that should really sit bak and consider their own thinking on this.

Take a critical lok at this and then realise IT CAN"T POSSIBLY WORK and it totally defies both common sense AND normal democratic practices - a thoroughly disgusting announcement and Thailand should be ashamed that this sort of thing goes on and the guy should be SACKED!!

This sounds like the usual idiotic unplanned "Crackdowns" we get from the police from week to week. Where some half educated prawn of an officiall laying on his bed one morning suddenly has a brain wave !

I think you're right - only the thought probably came whilst on the toilet - it would match the quality of the idea better.

[mylkdesign]

I strongly applaud this move - 11 years have taught me that despite the core Buddhist precept of awareness of ones own actions on all and everything around oneself, Thais generally are oblivious to the effect their actions and noise have on others - even more so when alcohol is involved (though that's a global phenomenon not just restricted to Thailand).

To the cynics and snipers like Tiffer above - consider how you train a dog not to take a dump on your carpet - when it does so, you beat it immediately so it can associate its action and the reactive punishment. There is no point in punishing the dog hours or days later, when it has no recollection of the event and no understanding of why it is being punished. The same is true of very small children - unacceptable action followed by immediate punishment or the lesson is meaningless.

In this instance, this "kneejerk" rule is exactly what is needed - it sends the message that actions like those on Boxing Day will not be tolerated, and that the actions of the minority will result in the removal the pleasure of the majority. Khunkitti is sending a message to the Thai people to shape up and think about what they do - that has to be applauded.

The more of these kneejerk total clampdowns that occur, the more the "law and order" message will be delivered and eventually enter into, and stick in, the empty coconuts that too many people (farang as well as Thai) have on the top of their necks. The only downside is if the restriction issuing gets out of order, and Thailand becomes as regulated as Australia or Britain. Hopefully, residents of all nationalities will wake up before that happens.

Now, maybe Khun Khunkitti can come and have words with the snooker hall next door to us, and shut down their all night raging noise and political propaganda assemblies?

[mylkdesign]

Once again the short fallings of a minority affect the overal outcome of the majority. After spending a small fortune on camping equipment here i find myself in the position along with many others where you are unable to enjoy the natural beauty of Thailands national parks with a drink or 2 . Can't see how this is good for tourism Thailand.

[Nawtier]

unable to enjoy the natural beauty of Thailands national parks without a drink or 2 .

That's quite sad really.....i do feel genuinely sorry for you.

[jayjay0]

Once again the short fallings of a minority affect the overal outcome of the majority. After spending a small fortune on camping equipment here i find myself in the position along with many others where you are unable to enjoy the natural beauty of Thailands national parks with a drink or 2 . Can't see how this is good for tourism Thailand.

I don't quite know how to tell you but it is possible to enjoy the natural beauty of a park with out a drink.

Besides that I am suspicious Are you wandering around the park while you enjoy a drink or two. Or are you sitting in a campsite while you enjoy the scenic view of your fellow campers.

Make no mistake about it. I know what I am talking about. There was a time when I also could not enjoy any thing with out a drink and would defend my rite to a drink or two being OK. I just neglected to mention for you not me. I was different.

Today I still maintain a drink or two is OK for most people. But there is unfortunately a percentage of the population who will abuse it and make it a unenjoyable experience for there neighbors in a camp ground. And if You are hiking you will not be leaving your bottles all over the park.

It may have been a knee jerk response but it has a lot of merit. There are definitely parts of parks where it should not apply.

As for good for tourism Thailand. Get real. Who comes to Thailand to buy camping equipment and go camping. They might go on a tour where it is provided.

Now that you mention it I can't recall seeing ad's of come to Thailand spend a small fortune on camping equipment and go camping.

[mylkdesign]

I am currently living here. an enjoy the national park experience. As for having a quiet drink around campsite not drunken disrespecting of fellow campers. It basically gets down to ignorant ,disrespectful people who should know better but don't care in reguard to their actions.

Once again the short fallings of a minority affect the overal outcome of the majority. After spending a small fortune on camping equipment here i find myself in the position along with many others where you are unable to enjoy the natural beauty of Thailands national parks with a drink or 2 . Can't see how this is good for tourism Thailand.

I don't quite know how to tell you but it is possible to enjoy the natural beauty of a park with out a drink.

Besides that I am suspicious Are you wandering around the park while you enjoy a drink or two. Or are you sitting in a campsite while you enjoy the scenic view of your fellow campers.

Make no mistake about it. I know what I am talking about. There was a time when I also could not enjoy any thing with out a drink and would defend my rite to a drink or two being OK. I just neglected to mention for you not me. I was different.

Today I still maintain a drink or two is OK for most people. But there is unfortunately a percentage of the population who will abuse it and make it a unenjoyable experience for there neighbors in a camp ground. And if You are hiking you will not be leaving your bottles all over the park.

It may have been a knee jerk response but it has a lot of merit. There are definitely parts of parks where it should not apply.

As for good for tourism Thailand. Get real. Who comes to Thailand to buy camping equipment and go camping. They might go on a tour where it is provided.

Now that you mention it I can't recall seeing ad's of come to Thailand spend a small fortune on camping equipment and go camping.

Edited December 31, 2010 by mylkdesign

[warfie]

er..... the guy was stabbed.... not bludgeoned to death with a bottle...

Ban Knifes from National parks!!!

<--- and yes, of course I'm being sarcastic --->

[Insight]

This law, in practice, is utterly ridiculous and I fully agree with the "knee jerk reaction" analogy.

When I first read it (not sure if it was on this thread or another) I presumed the ban was intended for public parks, not National Parks. For public parks it sounded like a fairly reasonable proposition - if people really wanted a drink surely a bar outside the park could be found?

My mistake. It's instead referring to National Parks which cover hundreds of square kilometres across the country dedicated to tourism, as I found out over the New Year when staying in a camping/bungalow resort on Doi Suthep. Are the large numbers of hotels built in the national park area of Kao Yai also covered by this ban? Is it really fair to punish everyone just for one unfortunate incident which no doubt has the mentality of the perpetrators more to blame than alcohol itself?

Seems like no matter who is in charge of the country there will always come complete with a fair share of morons completely detached from reality pulling the strings and making decisions like this.