Teaching English

[kamluan]

I am a 30 year old Dutch and Thai national living in Thailand for two years now.

I really would like to teach English at a Goverment School in Chonburi.

I can read and speak perfect,understanding English.

I don't have any Beachelor Degree nor Tefl Certificate.

I am well motivated and hope to learn the Thai Youngs a good level of understanding English speaking and writing.

I hold a Thai and Dutch Nationality.

But look 100% Thai,how do i can't speak Thai,only the basics and some more but can't have an convertsation.

I want to do a 120-hours Tefl course hoping this helps me learn more about the Teaching skills and learn how to react in some cases that will appear in class.

Can anybody can give some info?

I will start whit a TEFL course if i can find a Good Tefl School here in Pattaya=Chonburi.

Do i have any chances to get a job as an English Teacher?

I have the spirit,and whit some gramm.books,i really could teach the Thai young's

At the moment i am working as a Freelance Webdesigner.

Kind regards

Kamluan

[Pawpcorn]

No offense, but you might consider proof checking your writing and grammar with something like MS Word...

I counted over 20 spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors in your short posting...

Including... "I can read and speak perfect,understanding English." which is a fractured sentence, in itself...

Advice? Don't quit your day job...

[Scott]

Criticism of grammar and spelling is not tolerated on the site unless the poster has asked for such advice. So let's not continue down that line.

Scott,

Moderator

[mkawish]

alright, kumluan....

while you are waiting for the opportunity to teach English....

you can design some webpages for me....

are you interested?

contact me, if you like.

At any rate, good luck to you.

And thanks for having the desire and the heart to help Thai youngsters.... :jap: :jap: :jap:

Edited March 5, 2011 by Scott
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[Scott]

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[endure]

Criticism of grammar and spelling is not tolerated on the site unless the poster has asked for such advice. So let's not continue down that line.

Not even for those who aspire to teach grammar and spelling?

[Scott]

Nope.

I think the OP will have two major problems. First of all the current regulations heavily favor a degree, preferably in Education. Second, there is a preference for native speakers. The combination of Dutch-Thai will be a distinct disadvantage. Chonburi has a lot of native-speakers, so the competition will not favor the OP.

[kamluan]

Ok thanks everybody.

[kamluan]

<br />No offense, but you might consider proof checking your writing and grammar with something like MS Word...<br /><br />I counted over 20 spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors in your short posting... <br /><br />Including... "<font color="#1C2837"><font size="2">I can read and speak perfect,understanding English."  which is a fractured sentence, in itself...</font></font><br /><font color="#1C2837"><font size="2"><br /></font></font><br /><font color="#1C2837"><font size="2">Advice? Don't quit your day job...</font></font><img src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif" /><br />

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No job at the moment....only freelance webdesign and freelance hosting service sales.

But.....error's ...ok i agree...but you understood what i wrote...and that's for thai people already a good start.

See it like this...a sexy,mal mak mak Thai lady comes over to you,kiss you...then speaks...handsome man bum bum me free now..go room ok .....you would understand and never will bother you whit the incorrect english hein!!!

But thanks anyway for your reply.

Kind regards

Charan Kamluan

[Anyse]

I read your requst and it seems, to me, rather muddled. You say that you speak and read perfect English and then say below that that you can't speak English very well. Which one is it? I know that the preference is for native speakers with, at least, a BA degree and, even more desirable, teaching experience. I fear that you would not be able to compete without these particular requirements at all. Maybe, you can go back to school and learn more English as well a take conversational courses. Or, if you have the money, hire a private tutor to work with you. I now tutor people for up to 6 hours per week and they get pronounciation, spelling, reading, speaking and comprehension exercises every lesson. It is a LOT of hard work. Would you be willing to devote yourself totally to learning English for a couple of years to learn whether or not you can achieve full English fluency? Let me know, OK? Take care and the best of luck to you.

[quandow]

I taught in one of the larger private schools in Bangkok for two years. Of approximately 150 farang teachers, less than 10% had a work permit or any type of four year degree. We nicknamed one of the teachers "Mumbles" because NOBODY could understand him and he was an English teacher (!). The pay was ok, the vacation package was AWESOME, and overall it was bearable. If one wants to teach here, just keep digging and something will come up.

[mkawish]

I taught in one of the larger private schools in Bangkok for two years. Of approximately 150 farang teachers, less than 10% had a work permit or any type of four year degree. We nicknamed one of the teachers "Mumbles" because NOBODY could understand him and he was an English teacher (!). The pay was ok, the vacation package was AWESOME, and overall it was bearable. If one wants to teach here, just keep digging and something will come up.

Come on, what is the name of that school, pls?

or least least you can mumble something so as not to violate your secrecy, pls?

for the benefits of us farang.....

[kamluan]

I taught in one of the larger private schools in Bangkok for two years. Of approximately 150 farang teachers, less than 10% had a work permit or any type of four year degree. We nicknamed one of the teachers "Mumbles" because NOBODY could understand him and he was an English teacher (!). The pay was ok, the vacation package was AWESOME, and overall it was bearable. If one wants to teach here, just keep digging and something will come up.

Wow....almost unbelievable....

But i don't want a nick name Mumbles2!!!!

I want people to understand me and really learn some english.

But thanks for your reply....

[kamluan]

I taught in one of the larger private schools in Bangkok for two years. Of approximately 150 farang teachers, less than 10% had a work permit or any type of four year degree. We nicknamed one of the teachers "Mumbles" because NOBODY could understand him and he was an English teacher (!). The pay was ok, the vacation package was AWESOME, and overall it was bearable. If one wants to teach here, just keep digging and something will come up.

Come on, what is the name of that school, pls?

or least least you can mumble something so as not to violate your secrecy, pls?

for the benefits of us farang.....

I agree...lol

[kamluan]

I read your requst and it seems, to me, rather muddled. You say that you speak and read perfect English and then say below that that you can't speak English very well. Which one is it? I know that the preference is for native speakers with, at least, a BA degree and, even more desirable, teaching experience. I fear that you would not be able to compete without these particular requirements at all. Maybe, you can go back to school and learn more English as well a take conversational courses. Or, if you have the money, hire a private tutor to work with you. I now tutor people for up to 6 hours per week and they get pronounciation, spelling, reading, speaking and comprehension exercises every lesson. It is a LOT of hard work. Would you be willing to devote yourself totally to learning English for a couple of years to learn whether or not you can achieve full English fluency? Let me know, OK? Take care and the best of luck to you.

What i ment to say is ,i don't speak english on a daily base...and yes Dutch and Portugese.

But i understand English and the grammatic part's.

I can read perfectly english,but when i speak sometimes i need to think a few sec.

Now i am reading english gramm books to pick it all up again.

When i graduated u had a 9 for english.

Unfortenly no money for private teacher....because i want the tefl course....i think this is more important.Maybey i am wrong i don't know.I think it all depends on myself.

I will have a look at a tefl school here in Pattaya.

Kind regards

Charan Kamluan

[aussiebebe]

I can really sympathize with the OP Kamluan as I've had several Thai colleagues over the years in the same predicament; they hold Thai nationality and look Thai but for various reasons haven't grown up here and haven't mastered the language. They're in the same position as foreigners like myself, yet everyone expects them to speak Thai - it must be really hard.

[kamluan]

I can really sympathize with the OP Kamluan as I've had several Thai colleagues over the years in the same predicament; they hold Thai nationality and look Thai but for various reasons haven't grown up here and haven't mastered the language. They're in the same position as foreigners like myself, yet everyone expects them to speak Thai - it must be really hard.

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

You've got it RIGHT!!!

I whised others could see it from our side....

Respect!!!!!!!

[jdinasia]

I can really sympathize with the OP Kamluan as I've had several Thai colleagues over the years in the same predicament; they hold Thai nationality and look Thai but for various reasons haven't grown up here and haven't mastered the language. They're in the same position as foreigners like myself, yet everyone expects them to speak Thai - it must be really hard.

I don't think they'd be applying to teach Thai in a school though.

[newbie001]

I think that the real issue is that you are not a native English speaker and do not have a degree. Being a Thai national would help if you had a degree but without it you couldn't get hired to teach at any reputable school. Even if you did you would be paid as a Thai which is a low starting salary. Since you cannot speak Thai fluently then your only option is to be hired as a foreigner, but that again poses the problem that you are not a Native speaker nor do you have a degree. Most schools will not touch you for several reasons: not white ( which is discussed in a different thread), No degree, No experience, Not a native speaker.

You might find work but it won't be paid well and really don't you think that you are doing a disservice to your students. It is bad enough that Thai teachers teaching English often have limited communicative skills but at least they can help explain grammar points and things and help translate. You cannot even do that.

My advice is save your money on a useless TEFL certificate. Spend that money going to a government university in Thailand and get a degree. Even a degree in Thailand is better than a TEFL certificate. Some government universities only charge 10-15k a semester.

I sometimes find it so arrogant of people to think that just because they can communicate basically in a language that they are qualified to teach it to foreigners. As if young learners don't need good and qualified instructors with deep knowledge of their subject.

[kamluan]

I think that the real issue is that you are not a native English speaker and do not have a degree. Being a Thai national would help if you had a degree but without it you couldn't get hired to teach at any reputable school. Even if you did you would be paid as a Thai which is a low starting salary. Since you cannot speak Thai fluently then your only option is to be hired as a foreigner, but that again poses the problem that you are not a Native speaker nor do you have a degree. Most schools will not touch you for several reasons: not white ( which is discussed in a different thread), No degree, No experience, Not a native speaker.

You might find work but it won't be paid well and really don't you think that you are doing a disservice to your students. It is bad enough that Thai teachers teaching English often have limited communicative skills but at least they can help explain grammar points and things and help translate. You cannot even do that.

My advice is save your money on a useless TEFL certificate. Spend that money going to a government university in Thailand and get a degree. Even a degree in Thailand is better than a TEFL certificate. Some government universities only charge 10-15k a semester.

I sometimes find it so arrogant of people to think that just because they can communicate basically in a language that they are qualified to teach it to foreigners. As if young learners don't need good and qualified instructors with deep knowledge of their subject.

Usefull info Thanks....

And if i could a job whit a lower salari it would be fine....because i will gain experience from that 1 or 2 years experience would help me in the future.

Now disservice to my students....that's why i wanted to do a tefl,learning how to teach...then prepare the lesson's by myself....whit the book...viola....lol

I know it's not easy the way i wrote it down...

And if i am not able to teach Thais Talking and writing English correct i would be not happy,not satisfied.......

but atleast i am motivated and Happy living in Thailand for 2 years now!!lol

I will look for more info about getting a degree here in Thailand.

What kind of degree should be enough for teaching in Thailand?

[duncanb]

Hi

"Do i have any chances to get a job as an English Teacher?"

The answer is no.

The answer needs some clarification otherwise it would be frustrating for the poster. The clarification requires highlighting the poor written English. Worksheets are essential for teaching conversation, the posters written English (based on his post) is far of the mark. Is that unreasonable, and does that need to be highlited? I think it needs to be highlighted and that requires critisism.

No offense, but you might consider proof checking your writing and grammar with something like MS Word...

I counted over 20 spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors in your short posting...

Including... "I can read and speak perfect,understanding English." which is a fractured sentence, in itself...

Advice? Don't quit your day job...