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Pheu Thai will win 270 seats: Thaksin

By Praphan Jindalert-udomdee

The Nation

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra expressed confidence yesterday that the opposition Pheu Thai Party would win 270 MP seats in the upcoming general elections, 100 more than the ruling Democrat Party.

Thaksin, who is believed to be pulling the strings behind Pheu Thai, made his remark during an Internet-based voice call at a meeting of party politicians yesterday in preparation for the next election, a source said.

He said he expected Pheu Thai to win at least 60 House seats from the party-list vote.

"The candidates on the ranks between 1 and 60 will certainly become MPs. Those above the 70th and 80th are likely to win, but it will be difficult for those from the 90th and below," he was quoted as telling the meeting.

A total of 125 of 500 MPs will come from the party-list vote and the remaining 375 will be selected in the constituency election.

Thaksin - who is believed to be Pheu Thai's de-facto leader - yesterday told party candidates to spread his recently announced policy platform to the electorate but also asked them "not to speak beyond the script", according to the source.

At yesterday's meeting, five teams were formed to deal with different areas of responsibility, such as campaigning, visiting constituencies and scrutinising suspected electoral fraud.

Yesterday's meeting was co-chaired by Pheu Thai's non-MP leader Yongyuth Wichaidit and deputy party leader Plodprasop Suraswadi at the party's headquarters.

It was disclosed that 193 people have applied to be on Pheu Thai's party list to contest the next election. They include red-shirt leaders, veteran politicians and dignitaries such as columnist Nitipoom Naowarat and former police chief Seripisut Temiyavej.

Among the red-shirt leaders on Pheu Thai's party list are Jatuporn Promphan (who is currently a Pheu Thai MP), Nattawut Saikua, Kokaew Pikulthong, Weng Tojirakarn, Yoswalit Chooklom, Sakda Noppasit and Aree Krainara. All have been accused of terrorism in connection with last year's unrest and riots that left 91 people dead and 2,000 injured.

Mingkwan Sangsuwan, a Pheu Thai deputy leader who earlier announced his intention to become the party's prime ministerial candidate, did not attend yesterday's meeting. Mingkwan was reportedly upset at Thaksin's rejection of support for his ambitious announcement.

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-- The Nation 2011-04-29

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It's not impossible although definitely Thaksin rhetoric.

The governments recent mishandling of the Cambodian affair, the PAD debacle etc has done them no favours and all will still be fresh in the minds of the electorate come the election.

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It was disclosed that 193 people have applied to be on Pheu Thai's party list to contest the next election. They include red-shirt leaders,motorbike taxi drivers,taxi meter and tuk tuk drivers,fugitive criminals,terrorists, veteran politicians and dignitaries such as columnist Nitipoom Naowarat and former police chief Seripisut Temiyavej.

Hey what happened to the 300+ seats he was so confident about only a few weeks ago.

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Thats up 5 from the 265 of last week, Thaksin must think he is doing very well.

Ant thats after some of the present MP.s were kicked out and others have left.

But who needs the old sitting crowd when you have smart, experienced, dedicated and highly qualified candidates like the red shirt leaders to take over?

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One would think that this outcome is very unlikely, there now only 375 constutional seat avaliable (Abhsits election reform) the rest are proportional seats awarded to (well nobody knows yet)

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The finest leaders that Thaksin's money can buy...to be sure.... B)

BTW, why do The Nation articles keep saying he's "believed to be" the PT's leader.. If that fact isn't pretty crystal clear by now, the writers really need to go back to journalism school.

It's like saying Thailand is "believed to be" a country...

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The finest leaders that Thaksin's money can buy...to be sure.... B)

BTW, why do The Nation articles keep saying he's "believed to be" the PT's leader.. If that fact isn't pretty crystal clear by now, the writers really need to go back to journalism school.

It's like saying Thailand is "believed to be" a country...

The 'believed to be' probably reflects the draconic defamation laws here in Thailand. Like saying someone whose name start with a T :ermm:

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The finest leaders that Thaksin's money can buy...to be sure.... B)

BTW, why do The Nation articles keep saying he's "believed to be" the PT's leader.. If that fact isn't pretty crystal clear by now, the writers really need to go back to journalism school.

It's like saying Thailand is "believed to be" a country...

I never trust what nation describes over here. I ammostly interested in people’s opinion than what nation says

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The finest leaders that Thaksin's money can buy...to be sure.... B)

BTW, why do The Nation articles keep saying he's "believed to be" the PT's leader.. If that fact isn't pretty crystal clear by now, the writers really need to go back to journalism school.

It's like saying Thailand is "believed to be" a country...

The 'believed to be' probably reflects the draconic defamation laws here in Thailand. Like saying someone whose name start with a T :ermm:

I always thought it funny in a sad way when they'd just say 'high ranking government official' because they couldn't use the name without ending up in prison

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"It was disclosed that 193 people have applied to be on Pheu Thai's party list to contest the next election. They include red-shirt leaders, veteran politicians and dignitaries such as columnist Nitipoom Naowarat and former police chief Seripisut Temiyavej."

contest the next election? so they are already planning to riot over the results?

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You know...

That guy with the .... face... who once was.... and then had some problem with... and had to flee the .... or face going to ...... and losing all his .... which he's eternally fighting to recover.... which helps explain the whole ..... the country's in...

I'd say that pretty much sums it up in clear Thailand-style fashion... :jap:

Oh yah....and he's also believed to be the ... of the ......

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I express confidence that this sick megalomaniac will come to a sticky end.

It's hard to imagine him walking away from the next coup.

The screaming about a coup now is totally unrealistic, but incites the masses. But should Thaksin take control again, it WILL be iron fisted this time, no more Samaks, and he WILL start stepping on toes right up to the waists, and then we really can expect a sticky ending for him.

If he actually respected and was doing the 'will of the people' then he would have nothing to fear, but that is not in any way his M.O.

Oh, it wouldn't be a full army uprising and coup per se. But I am sure someone will step into the shadows if he goes too far. And sadly his history shows him going too far over and over again.

All this is bad for the country, but in the end worse for Thakin.

He really does seem to think he can yet again 'BUY THE COUNTRY'. Hubris of legendary proportions, will not go un-responded to in the long run.

And before the usual suspects start slagging as is their wont to do: This is analysis, not advocation or wishful thinking.

How many seats? Well that depends on the 'Thaksin machines' ability to control the village heads up north. 270 is an arrogant statement considering the worries emanating from PTP back benchers and prominence of red shirt terrorists on the party list.

No matter what the Dems have done well or not, the negatives attaching to PTP swell much more mountainously in comparison.

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Thats up 5 from the 265 of last week, Thaksin must think he is doing very well.

Ant thats after some of the present MP.s were kicked out and others have left.

But who needs the old sitting crowd when you have smart, experienced, dedicated and highly qualified candidates like the red shirt leaders to take over?

Dropping 4 every few days, including Executive Board members, isn't productive..

Constitution Court endorses Pheu Thai's expulsion of 2 MPs

The Constitution Court Wednesday ruled in favor of the Pheu Thai Party in its decision to expel two of its MPs for having taken part in political activities of the Bhum Jai Thai Party.

The court endorsed the expulsion of Jumpot Boonyai and Porapol Adireksarn.

It's worth noting these two banned PTP MP's are different and in addition to the two banned PTP MP's of the OP :

Thaksin Shinawatra, de-facto leader of the opposition Pheu Thai Party, has banned at least two incumbent MPs suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election, a party source said yesterday.

Pheu Thai former Secretary-General Supol Fong-ngam and MP Chavalit Vichayasut have been punished as a warning

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The finest leaders that Thaksin's money can buy...to be sure.... B)

BTW, why do The Nation articles keep saying he's "believed to be" the PT's leader.. If that fact isn't pretty crystal clear by now, the writers really need to go back to journalism school.

It's like saying Thailand is "believed to be" a country...

2 Billion Baht defamation lawsuit is why...

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The finest leaders that Thaksin's money can buy...to be sure.... B)

BTW, why do The Nation articles keep saying he's "believed to be" the PT's leader.. If that fact isn't pretty crystal clear by now, the writers really need to go back to journalism school.

It's like saying Thailand is "believed to be" a country...

The 'believed to be' probably reflects the draconic defamation laws here in Thailand. Like saying someone whose name start with a T :ermm:

I'm an hour late again with rubl.

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2 Billion Baht defamation lawsuit is why...

Are you saying he'd argue in court that he's not running the PT???

I guess all these call-in conferences and directives are just moonlighting???

I guess it's somewhat an issue of semantics... I doubt there's anyone in Thailand who doesn't "believe" he's the real leader of PT....

Perhaps the better descriptor would be "defacto", since probably it's correct that he doesn't hold any "official" position in the party at present.

Interesting that their non-leader is the one who gets to decide and dictate whom their next prime minister candidate will and won't be.

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2 Billion Baht defamation lawsuit is why...

Are you saying he'd argue in court that he's not running the PT???

I guess all these call-in conferences and directives are just moonlighting???

I guess it's somewhat an issue of semantics... I doubt there's anyone in Thailand who doesn't "believe" he's the real leader of PT....

Perhaps the better descriptor would be "defacto", since probably it's correct that he doesn't hold any "official" position in the party at present.

Interesting that their non-leader is the one who gets to decide and dictate whom their next prime minister candidate

will and won't be.

There is an old saying " Give him enough rope and he will hang himself". It is not beyond the realm of possibility that is just what is happening with Thaksin. He made some major goofs last time which ended him up as a fugitive in self imposed exile, Now with all the goings on, his video rants, the association with some of the red shirt terrorists, the departure of some PTP members,etc etc. It may yet happen.

Arrogant people like Thaksin have a habit of tripping up on their own shoes. He may have lots of money but the people that he's pissed off over the last decade have much more. Money rules no matter where.

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Let's not forget how Thaksin persecuted The Nation when he was in power - thuggish riots outside The Nation compound, mega lawsuits, attempt to purchase controlling shares and cut of advertising revenue - The Nation has always been anti-Thaksin, and with good reason.

Back to the topic, it is frightening how many people in Chiang Mai here still support Thaksin, I would like to believe that his boast of winning 270 seats is simplly that, a boast, but truthfully the man has the money and power. I really do fear for Thailand if his party is voted in and whitewash all his and his cohorts' crimes. That would be a tragedy. A travesty. I don't care if he is voted in democratically, and I will respect the people's wishes - grudingly because my vote will be going the other way - but if he starts with his illegal and corrupt shenanigans again then I will be out protesting on the streets, not as a yellow, but as a citizen of this country.

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Let's not forget how Thaksin persecuted The Nation when he was in power - thuggish riots outside The Nation compound, mega lawsuits, attempt to purchase controlling shares and cut of advertising revenue - The Nation has always been anti-Thaksin, and with good reason.

Yet Red Shirts complain about lack of free speech under the current government. I think it would be worse under Thaksin's rule.

but truthfully the man has the money and power.

He can afford to throw 1B THB here and there, or even 10B THB to a few people who matter most. He will still remain a billionaire. It can be difficult for anyone to refuse an offer of 10B THB. Throwing money around is his way of winning friends.

I don't care if he is voted in democratically, and I will respect the people's wishes

... and that would be the only thing that is democratic about Thaksin if Pheu Thai is voted in to lead the country. After that, we can expect the country to be less democratic than now.

I will be out protesting on the streets, not as a yellow, but as a citizen of this country.

It's good to see a Thai citizen's perspective in this forum.

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I express confidence that this sick megalomaniac will come to a sticky end. :blink:

One can only hope, that eventually something sticky will happen to him to get him out of our hats, heads and hearts sooner rather than later. I was a little concerned though that the electoral people haven't picked up that a tablet computer and a buffalo in electoral terms are exactly the same. In my village, the reason most people voted for him was the buffalo, irrespective of how many times I pointed out that none of them now have the capacity to house a buffalo :-).

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"It was disclosed that 193 people have applied to be on Pheu Thai's party list to contest the next election. They include red-shirt leaders, veteran politicians and dignitaries such as columnist Nitipoom Naowarat and former police chief Seripisut Temiyavej."

contest the next election? so they are already planning to riot over the results?

Stunts will occur before the results if opinion polls to not trend in their favour.

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Pheu Thai wants to win 22 Bangkok House seats

The Pheu Thai Party is projected to outpace the Democrats and win 22 of the 33 House seats up for grabs in Bangkok, Party Leader Yongyuth Wichaidit said on Wednesday.

"Pheu Thai is confident for a victory in Bangkok," he said.

The campaign for the capital will be under the slogan, "Returning happiness and increasing convenience for Khrungthep residents", he said.

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-- The Nation 2011-05-04

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"Pheu Thai is confident for a victory in Bangkok," he said.

The campaign for the capital will be under the slogan, "Returning happiness and increasing convenience for Khrungthep residents", he said.

Maybe k. Yongyuth should read the HRW report first ?

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"Pheu Thai is confident for a victory in Bangkok," he said.

The campaign for the capital will be under the slogan, "Returning happiness and increasing convenience for Khrungthep residents", he said.

Maybe k. Yongyuth should read the HRW report first ?

What happened to their "injustice" campaign in which they whine about dead people. Or is that only for upcountry? Or is all the whining the UDD's (Jatuporn's) job?

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