Thousands of Palestinians demand the right of return to all Palestinian refugees

[News_Editor]

Thousands of Palestinians demand the right of return to all Palestinian refugees

2011-05-13 03:08:16 GMT+7 (ICT)

WEST BANK (BNO NEWS) -- Thousands of Palestinians on Thursday marched in the West Bank and Gaza strip to demand the right of return to all Palestinian refugees, Palestine News Network reported.

The protests marked the start of daily actions until May 15 when the Nakba, which marks the creation of the state of Israel and the expulsion of Palestinians, is commemorated. People will gather in Ramallah, central West Bank, and Gaza City to demand the right of return of the 4.7 million refugees in and outside Palestine.

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

Legislative Council member, Mohamed al-Laham, said the right of return is guaranteed by international laws, led by the United Nations resolution 194. He stressed that Israel must understand that its military power will not be able to erase the memory of the Nakba and the anniversary of the tragedy.

"They can kill and destroy but our people will continue to demand their rights, we call upon the international community to achieve justice for the Palestinian people after 63 years of displacement," al-Laham said.

In May 15th 1948, Israel's army destroyed hundreds of Palestinian villages and towns; killing hundreds and expelling an estimated of 700,000 Palestinians from their homes. Now 1.5 million Palestinians still live in Israel.

Earlier this week, the Israeli army announced that it well increase deployment of troops in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and borders after Facebook groups called for civil disobedience in the Palestinian territories and rallies near Israeli borders.

-- © BNO News All rights reserved 2011-05-13

[kuffki]

must not be all that bad to live in Israel since there are 1 500 000 STILL living in Israel

[bangkokeddy]

Israel has already a law of the right to return.

According to some its open to all people no matter to what kind of specific ethnic/religious/cultural group they belong.

[kuffki]

Israel has already a law of the right to return.

According to some its open to all people no matter to what kind of specific ethnic/religious/cultural group they belong.

and your point is?

[Steely Dan]

Right of return? Is that to Syria, Egypt or Jordan? There never was a Palestinian state and Arab economic migrants from said Countries converged on the land west of the Jordan river for economic reasons after Jewish settlers started arriving. Not that they would want it but I wonder whether the 1 million Jews expelled from Arab lands have a right to return, or at least whether they will receive compensation for the confiscation of their belongings.

[bangkokeddy]

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

[kuffki]

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

but Israel is a state, so whats your point?

[bangkokeddy]

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

but Israel is a state, so whats your point?

Yes its a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group.

Apartheid and ethnic segregation belongs to the dust bin of history. Is that so difficult to understand?

[Steely Dan]

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

If the so called Palestinians hadn't left their homes in 1948 and 1967 in response to Arab Countries requests to do so (so they could wipe the Israelis out) there would have been no returning to do. Perhaps they should be having words with those who extended such requests and ask to be granted citizenship instead of being stuck in refugee camps for political purposes.

[kuffki]

From the OP:

"Our message this year is that we will return, we will start to implement laws of right of return, we will march to Israeli checkpoints demanding to go home. We are working day and night to achieve our goal, right of Return to the villages we were expelled from in 1948," Monther Amria, head of the Nakba Committee in Bethlehem said.

If Israel wouldn't be a state that isn't a Zionist setup of a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group their return would be no problem.

but Israel is a state, so whats your point?

Yes its a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group.

Apartheid and ethnic segregation belongs to the dust bin of history. Is that so difficult to understand?

and yet 1 500 000 arabs live in Israel, is that so difficult to understand?

[bangkokeddy]

If the so called Palestinians hadn't left their homes in 1948 and 1967 in response to Arab Countries requests to do so (so they could wipe the Israelis out) there would have been no returning to do. Perhaps they should be having words with those who extended such requests and ask to be granted citizenship instead of being stuck in refugee camps for political purposes.

That isn't that what happened.

[kuffki]

If the so called Palestinians hadn't left their homes in 1948 and 1967 in response to Arab Countries requests to do so (so they could wipe the Israelis out) there would have been no returning to do. Perhaps they should be having words with those who extended such requests and ask to be granted citizenship instead of being stuck in refugee camps for political purposes.

That isn't that what happened.

Please do tell us what happened

[bangkokeddy]

Please do tell us what happened

Published 02:04 12.05.11

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work

While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us.

By Gideon Levy

It happened on the day after Independence Day, when Israel was immersed in praise of itself and its democracy almost ad nauseam, and on the eve of (virtually outlawed ) Nakba Day, when the Palestinian people mark the "catastrophe" - the anniversary of the creation of Israel. My colleague Akiva Eldar published what we have always known but for which we lacked the shocking figures he revealed: By the time of the Oslo Accords, Israel had revoked the residency of 140,000 Palestinians from the West Bank. In other words, 14 percent of West Bank residents who dared to go abroad had their right to return to Israel and live here denied forever. In other words, they were expelled from their land and their homes. In other words: ethnic cleansing.

...

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-or-democratic-israel-at-work-1.361196

[bangkokeddy]

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

[kuffki]

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

As oppose to denying or supporting those who deny the holocaust.

[Steely Dan]

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

Even if I accept your Haaretz link citing 600,000 Palestinians 'expelled' this is less than the number of Jews expelled from Arab lands, which is put at 800,000 to 1,000,000. And we are talking of displaced not murdered, unlike the holocaust where six million were murdered, which is ten times the number of Palestinians allegedly expelled. This just goes to show the ridiculous and offensive hyperbole you engage in whenever a topic involves Israel.

Incidentally before wikileaks abetted by Al-Jazeera spilled the beans the Palestinian authority were accepting that the so called 'right of return' for all Palestinians was no longer practical, but this has gone quiet since the supposed peace between Fatah and Hamas.

[cdnvic]

Removed inflammatory posts and material that was unaccredited.

[Wallaby]

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

Even if I accept your Haaretz link citing 600,000 Palestinians 'expelled' this is less than the number of Jews expelled from Arab lands, which is put at 800,000 to 1,000,000. And we are talking of displaced not murdered, unlike the holocaust where six million were murdered, which is ten times the number of Palestinians allegedly expelled. This just goes to show the ridiculous and offensive hyperbole you engage in whenever a topic involves Israel.

Incidentally before wikileaks abetted by Al-Jazeera spilled the beans the Palestinian authority were accepting that the so called 'right of return' for all Palestinians was no longer practical, but this has gone quiet since the supposed peace between Fatah and Hamas.

Does that make it right, or wrong, or less wrong, or just as wrong?

[pomeloseed]

Yes its (Israel) a state specially for only one specific ethnic/religious/cultural group.

Israel is not perfect society (where is there one?) but it's much more open than any of its Arab neighboring states.

Ever since hominids grouped together and attacked other groups of hominids, there have been wars. Even before that, if you count other aggressive animals and colonizing insects. Wars get waged, leaving some winners and some losers. The losers usually lose territory and they usually suffer more killed than the winners. Sad but true.

Maybe they got tricked or maybe they lost pitched battles, but some of the earlier inhabitants of that region (mid 20th century) were either killed or forced to move elsewhere, and others took over the land. Armed conflict has been going on in that region, arguably the crossroads leading out of Africa - towards western Asia and Europe - for millenia. It used to be lush, with plethora of animals and plants, now it's mostly desert, barely useful for a protected environmental wasteland. As to 'who is the rightful owner' debate, that's bordering on ridiculous. You can look at nearly any region on the planet, and you'll see all sorts of inhabitants at different times. Even the Caribbean was once inhabited by peaceful tribes before the fierce Carib tribes took over. Should we find some surviving original peaceful members, and summarily kick out everyone else, including the Dutch, French, Americans, Danes, British, African descendants, Mexicans, Chinese et. al?

The Israeli / Palestine region is about half the size of New Mexico and about half as environmentally nice, yet it's the hotbed of this planet because miserable people are hassling non-stop about ownership of its sand dunes. Best thing all those folks can do for themselves is stop having babies. Next best thing is to try and teach their children tolerance towards others. Since neither of those things are going to happen, expect another several decades (at least) of internecine bickering and violence.

Edited May 13, 2011 by pomeloseed

[bangkokeddy]

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

Even if I accept your Haaretz link citing 600,000 Palestinians 'expelled' this is less than the number of Jews expelled from Arab lands, which is put at 800,000 to 1,000,000. And we are talking of displaced not murdered, unlike the holocaust where six million were murdered, which is ten times the number of Palestinians allegedly expelled. This just goes to show the ridiculous and offensive hyperbole you engage in whenever a topic involves Israel.

Incidentally before wikileaks abetted by Al-Jazeera spilled the beans the Palestinian authority were accepting that the so called 'right of return' for all Palestinians was no longer practical, but this has gone quiet since the supposed peace between Fatah and Hamas.

Does that make it right, or wrong, or less wrong, or just as wrong?

It doesn't make it right.

Even if you don't accept that he accept the Haaretz link.

[Ulysses G.]

Right of return? Is that to Syria, Egypt or Jordan? There never was a Palestinian state and Arab economic migrants from said Countries converged on the land west of the Jordan river for economic reasons after Jewish settlers started arriving. Not that they would want it but I wonder whether the 1 million Jews expelled from Arab lands have a right to return, or at least whether they will receive compensation for the confiscation of their belongings.

Those are the facts Jack - I mean Dan. Most of the so-called "Palestinians" were recent immigrants from the surrounding Arab countries.

[snarky66]

The West Bank & Gaza are already some of the most densely populated land on Earth. One wonders if the 1.5 million will fit?

[kuffki]

Please do tell us what happened

Published 02:04 12.05.11

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work

While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us.

By Gideon Levy

It happened on the day after Independence Day, when Israel was immersed in praise of itself and its democracy almost ad nauseam, and on the eve of (virtually outlawed ) Nakba Day, when the Palestinian people mark the "catastrophe" - the anniversary of the creation of Israel. My colleague Akiva Eldar published what we have always known but for which we lacked the shocking figures he revealed: By the time of the Oslo Accords, Israel had revoked the residency of 140,000 Palestinians from the West Bank. In other words, 14 percent of West Bank residents who dared to go abroad had their right to return to Israel and live here denied forever. In other words, they were expelled from their land and their homes. In other words: ethnic cleansing.

...

http://www.haaretz.c...t-work-1.361196

Here CDNVIC, now its accredited.

ISRAEL'S HISTORY AND RIGHT TO EXIST

http://www.discovert...egory.asp?id=38

The State of Israel was created in a peaceful and legal process by the United Nations. It was not created out of Palestinian lands, but rather out of the Ottoman Empire, which had been ruled for 400 years by the Turks who lost it when they, fighting alongside Germany, were defeated in World War I. There were no "Palestinian" lands at the time because there were no people claiming to be Palestinians, but rather simply Arabs who lived in the region of Palestine.

In 1947, a UN partition plan mandated the creation of two states on the remaining 20 percent of the Palestine Mandate: the State of Israel for the Jews, and another state for the stateless Arabs. But the rulers of eight Arab states did not want a non-Arab state anywhere in the Middle East. Thus they rejected the UN arrangement and simultaneously launched a three-front war of annihilation against the newly created state of Israel -- on the very day of its creation in 1948.

A state of war in the Middle East has continued uninterruptedly ever since, because most of the Arab states have refused to sign a peace treaty with Israel, and have refused to recognize the legitimacy of the Jewish state.

Had there been no invasion of Israel by Arab armies whose intent was overtly genocidal, there would have been a state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza since 1948.

In 1993 the Oslo peace process was initiated, based on the pledge that both parties would renounce violence as a means of settling their disputes. But the Palestinians never followed through on this pledge. During the so-called "peace process" -- between 1993 and 1999 -- they perpetrated more than 4,000 terrorist attacks that resulted in the deaths of more than 1,000 Israelis. During this same period, Israel gave the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza a self-governing authority, a 40,000-man armed "police force," and 95 percent of the territory their negotiators demanded.

But of course Israel's efforts to achieve peace were in vain and rockets, murders simply continue.

Edited May 13, 2011 by cdnvic
Thank you

[kuffki]

Who Is Really Oppressing the Palestinians?

http://archive.front...aspx?ARTID=5835

The exploitation of Palestinian Arabs began more than 170 years ago, when Israel was still an impossible dream, and intifadas and suicide bombers were unimaginable.

[kuffki]

How Strong Is the Arab Claim to Palestine?

http://archive.front...aspx?ARTID=5835

There is a myth hanging over all discussion of the Palestinian problem: the myth that this land was "Arab" land taken from its native inhabitants by invading Jews. Whatever may be the correct solution to the problems of the Middle East, let's get a few things straight:

§ As a strictly legal matter, the Jews didn't take Palestine from the Arabs; they took it from the British, who exercised sovereign authority in Palestine under a League of Nations mandate for thirty years prior to Israel's declaration of independence in 1948. And the British don't want it back.

§ If you consider the British illegitimate usurpers, fine. In that case, this territory is not Arab land but Turkish land, a province of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until the British wrested it from them during the Great War in 1917. And the Turks don't want it back.

§ If you look back earlier in history than the Ottoman Turks, who took over Palestine over in 1517, you find it under the sovereignty of the yet another empire not indigenous to Palestine: the Mamluks, who were Turkish and Circassian slave-soldiers headquartered in Egypt. And the Mamluks don't even exist any more, so they can't want it back.

Edited May 13, 2011 by kuffki
fonts

[cdnvic]

I'm asking nicely (once) not to post in crazy fonts and colours.

[kuffki]

I'm asking nicely (once) not to post in crazy fonts and colours.

My apology, just copy and pasted it .did not even realize the font issue

[cdnvic]

No worries

[Steely Dan]

Nakba denial is as bad as genocide denials.

Even if I accept your Haaretz link citing 600,000 Palestinians 'expelled' this is less than the number of Jews expelled from Arab lands, which is put at 800,000 to 1,000,000. And we are talking of displaced not murdered, unlike the holocaust where six million were murdered, which is ten times the number of Palestinians allegedly expelled. This just goes to show the ridiculous and offensive hyperbole you engage in whenever a topic involves Israel.

Incidentally before wikileaks abetted by Al-Jazeera spilled the beans the Palestinian authority were accepting that the so called 'right of return' for all Palestinians was no longer practical, but this has gone quiet since the supposed peace between Fatah and Hamas.

Does that make it right, or wrong, or less wrong, or just as wrong?

I think you are missing the point; using the word genocide was wrong by any objective definition of genocide, but the lexicon of Jewish suffering is deliberately misappropriated and used against Israel based on ridiculous premeditated exageration by some people.