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http://www.lepost.fr/article/2011/05/15/2494988_dsk-arrete-ou-les-preuves-d-une-operation-minutieusement-orchestree-par-l-ump.html

My french isn't super, but I know enough to see some serious questions raised about the time lines of people involved around DSK's hotel problem.

No comment on the political leanings of the site or anything else. this is just information. I was directed to it by some native franophones.

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http://www.lepost.fr...-par-l-ump.html

My french isn't super, but I know enough to see some serious questions raised about the time lines of people involved around DSK's hotel problem.

No comment on the political leanings of the site or anything else. this is just information. I was directed to it by some native franophones.

I don't read that; it's merely speculating about times and not verified information by authorities but we will kow in due time.

But, in the meantime, speculations about a set-up, trying to frame DSK are finding it's way:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/dsks-arrest-the-view-from-paris.html

LaoPo

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I deleted more silly conspiracy theories. This is a place to discuss news, not a creative writing class. Any more of this trolling will result in a suspension.

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And if I am not mistaken, the IMF may get stuck with the legal fees in this case since he was an employee and on company business.

"A maid, 32, said he emerged naked from the bathroom and sexually assaulted her inside his $3,000-a-night suite at the Sofitel hotel in New York's Times Square on Saturday afternoon. He was there on private business, the IMF said."

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IMF CHIEF HAS IRONCLAD ALIBI, His Lawyers Say

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/dsk-alibi-2011-5?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+clusterstock+%28ClusterStock%29#ixzz1MVoR4hbP

'IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, better known as DSK, was having lunch with his daughter at the time when the sexual assault he is alleged to have committed supposedly took place, his lawyers say, according to French radio RMC.

According to this item, DSK checked out of the hotel at noon, an hour before the events allegedly took place. He was scheduled to have lunch with his daughter, a graduate student at Columbia University in New York, that day.'

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This is going to be one interesting story to follow. It seems like there are a lot of skeletons in the closet and probably more will come out.

But, if this New York incident is a set up, it is rather strange that they would wait until the very last minute to set him up. Did someone want him to escape? Did 'they' want to ruin his career, but never have him face a legal court? The court of public opinion is much less even handed.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/nyregion/imf-names-replacement-as-chief-awaits-arraignment.html?_r=1&hpw

“Hours after its chief, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, was arrested in connection withthe alleged sexual attack of a maid at a Midtown Manhattan hotel, theInternational Monetary Fund on Sunday named John Lipsky as acting managingdirector.

Mr. Lipsky, the I.M.F.’s first deputy managing director, is a former U.S.Treasury executive and onetime banker at JP Morgan.”

I rest my case!

The dollar is gaining and the Euro is falling as we speak.

Tiger

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IMF CHIEF HAS IRONCLAD ALIBI, His Lawyers Say

Read more: http://www.businessi...9#ixzz1MVoR4hbP

'IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, better known as DSK, was having lunch with his daughter at the time when the sexual assault he is alleged to have committed supposedly took place, his lawyers say, according to French radio RMC.

According to this item, DSK checked out of the hotel at noon, an hour before the events allegedly took place. He was scheduled to have lunch with his daughter, a graduate student at Columbia University in New York, that day.'

The plot thickens; if that's true it could have been a set-up by whomever....

The 62 year old DSK allegedly sexually assaulted upon a 32 year old woman/cleaning maid, a native from Guinea/Africa, mother of two....an hour BEFORE the events took place....?

Hmm...what to think?

LaoPo

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Dominique Strauss-Kahn faces further claim of sexual assault

Socialist party official says her daughter was left traumatised after alleged attack by Strauss-Kahn in 2002

http://www.guardian....-tristane-banon

From link above:

Tristane Banon was in her 20s and writing a book when she approached Strauss-Kahn for an interview in 2002. In a TV programme in 2007, in which Strauss-Kahn's name had been bleeped out, Banon allegedly described him as a "rutting chimpanzee" and described how she was forced to fight him off. "It finished badly … very violently … I kicked him," Banon said. "When we were fighting, I mentioned the word 'rape' to make him afraid, but it didn't have any effect. I managed to get out."

It's getting real dirty and difficult for DSK now.....

LaoPo

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I think the time-line of events will straighten themselves out--or there won't really be a case.

With a lot of reporters asking questions and probably a lot of people willing to comment, at least off the record, it's not unusual for discrepancies in the story.

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http://www.lepost.fr...-par-l-ump.html

My french isn't super, but I know enough to see some serious questions raised about the time lines of people involved around DSK's hotel problem.

No comment on the political leanings of the site or anything else. this is just information. I was directed to it by some native franophones.

Coming back to my earlier answer:

What Are The Odds There's A Plot Against Dominique Strauss-Kahn?

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/plot-dominique-strauss-kahn-complot-2011-5#ixzz1MW5OYTpo

But this is "news" from May 15th, so a bit old...

excerpt:

The allegation with the most meat comes from tabloid website Le Post, which notes that the first person to tweet the arrest was an activist in the French right-wing UMP party, Jonathan Pinet. He tweeted it before the time of the arrest, Le Post says.

The first person to retweet Pinet, according to Le Post still, was Arnaud Dassier, a spin doctor who had been implicated in previous embarrassing revelations on DSK's luxurious lifestyle. The first website to mention the news was 24heuresactu, a right-wing blog, way before the New York Post, which was the first US outlet to break the news.

Pinet says he got the news from a friend of his who works at the hotel and told him about the commotion.

Meanwhile Le Monde quotes an unnamed "right-wing heavyweight" as saying "It happened as expected." The person could only be saying that it was inevitable that DSK would commit a sexual impropriety given his proclivities.

LaoPo

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I think the time-line of events will straighten themselves out--or there won't really be a case.

Absolutely, realizing that there should be at least camera images with a correct time at the Sofitel, when DSK left the hotel.

LaoPo

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Uh, yeah.

Head of the IMF, filthy rich and able to buy what he wants, but he rapes a maid on impulse.

Hmmm. Wonder what he did that pissed off the powers that be?

I myself don't have the kind of money it would take to buy this story.

Sure. Rich people don't commit sexual assaults. Case closed.

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Nepotism and the boys club favourtism is quite the universal acceptance throughout these democratic bodies. Ain't it grand....??B)

Thankfully there's none of that in Thailand!

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And if I am not mistaken, the IMF may get stuck with the legal fees in this case since he was an employee and on company business.

"A maid, 32, said he emerged naked from the bathroom and sexually assaulted her inside his $3,000-a-night suite at the Sofitel hotel in New York's Times Square on Saturday afternoon. He was there on private business, the IMF said."

If the charge grows legs, the IMF will be named in a civil suit and will get dragged into the case. The issue will become one of what is indemnifable and non-indemnifiable under the employment contract between the IMF and the accused. It will be difficult for the IMF to defend itself without assisting the defense of the accused.

As well, the IMF can say that the man was there on his own accord, but if he had uesd his status as an IMF official to obtain access to the AF flight, the IMF will have a problem on its hands. It's easy to say, "he's not my responsibility", however, if the past inappropriate behaviours are dragged into a civil case, then it will be argued that the IMF failed to act to control an alleged pervert. Past misadventures may not be allowed in a criminal case, but they can be more easily allowed in a civil case. One thing is certain, this is going to be a legal mess. The IMF can't publicly provide defense due to the image issues. On the other hand, the IMF has a vested interest in making the case go away as it is a serious embarrassment.

Who wants to wager, that the accused will now be tossed from the IMF dirigible with a golden parachute?

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It would seem that he will not have diplomatic immunity:

IMF bylaws state that its officials "shall be immune from legal process with respect to acts performed by them in their official capacity except when the fund waives this immunity."

Deputy New York Police Commissioner Paul Browne said Strauss-Kahn does not have diplomatic immunity in this case nor, to the commissioner's knowledge, has he claimed it. CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it was unlikely to apply to Strauss-Kahn, regardless, because violent crimes like this one typically aren't covered under diplomatic immunity.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/16/new.york.imf.questioning/index.html?hpt=T2

It also appears that he was not on official IMF business.

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Strauss-Kahn lawyers see alibi in sex case: report

9:05am EDT

PARIS (Reuters) - Lawyers for Dominique Strauss-Kahn have proof the IMF chief was at a restaurant having lunch with his daughter at the time he was alleged to be sexually assaulting a hotel maid, France's RMC radio reported on Monday.

RMC said the lawyers had pieced together Strauss-Kahn's movements and found that he left the hotel at midday, after paying his bill and handing in his key, then went to eat with his daughter and took a taxi to the airport.

The schedule meant he had already left the hotel at the time the maid alleged he chased her down a corridor, forced her into a room and assaulted her, RMC reported on its website, adding that the lawyers had material evidence and witnesses.

Continues:

http://www.reuters.c...E74F35M20110516

LaoPo

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Not DSK related but it's quite a coincidence that there is another dirty rape case in Manhattan....this time in a court fight between a prosecutor, Ms Coleen Balbert (deputy chief of the Manhattan district attorney's sex crimes unit for four years) and a police officer about a fake 911-call by his fellow police officer...<_<

The case is about: ".......woman accusing Officer Moreno of raping her while Officer Mata stood guard..."

If Truth Is Elusive, Rape Trial May Turn on Prosecutor's Tug of War With Officer

http://www.nytimes.c...l?_r=1&src=recg

LaoPo

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I would like to point out that the 32 year old maid, entering the suite of DSK, is reportedly a black native from Guinea in Africa and the official language of Guinea is French since the country is a former colony of France.

It is also reported that the maid was a part time cleaning maid in the (French) Sofitel Hotel in Manhatten/NYC and it's amazing that a French speaking maid, was entering the suite whilst Frenchman DSK was still in there...

After DSK was taken from his plane he was taken to a police station in Harlem/NYC...NOT a police station in the jurisdiction where the case allegedly happened, 45W 44 St....

That's a lot of (French connection) coincidences...... :whistling:

LaoPo

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It would seem that he will not have diplomatic immunity:

IMF bylaws state that its officials "shall be immune from legal process with respect to acts performed by them in their official capacity except when the fund waives this immunity."

Deputy New York Police Commissioner Paul Browne said Strauss-Kahn does not have diplomatic immunity in this case nor, to the commissioner's knowledge, has he claimed it. CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it was unlikely to apply to Strauss-Kahn, regardless, because violent crimes like this one typically aren't covered under diplomatic immunity.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/16/new.york.imf.questioning/index.html?hpt=T2

It also appears that he was not on official IMF business.

Not that simple. Watch this space. He is not an IMF "official". He is the head of a UN Agency. If he were merely an employee of the IMF that would be different as they can only claim immunity in respect of acts performed by them in an official capacity as you have stated.

"Furthermore, unlike a diplomat - who is immune from prosecution only in the country where he or she is based - the head of a UN agency is immune from prosecution in all countries.

Mr Strauss-Kahn has immunity from prosecution as the head of a UN agency

He has tacitly waived his immunity - but could later claim it - by undergoing forensic tests and saying he will fight the charges

The fact that he was in the US on a private visit is immaterial"

There is a big difference between the head of the IMF, and its rank-and-file members, who are immune from prosecution only with regard to "acts performed... in their official capacity".

BBC.

BTW, I wouldn't put much faith in CNN that you quoted.

"CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it was unlikely to apply to Strauss-Kahn, regardless, because violent crimes like this one typically aren't covered under diplomatic immunity."

Tell that to the family of WPC Yvvone Fletcher who was shot dead outside the Libyan Embassy in London in 1984. Not only did the Libyans get immunity, they were escorted to the airport with their weapons.

Looks like this is going to get as murky as it can get. :rolleyes:

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One curious question remains unexamined here:

1. French banker allegedly attempts rape of American hotel maid;

2. Said maid allegedly fights off assault;

3. Said banker allegedly forces said maid to perform bj on him;

4. How does banker prevent maid from biting off or attempting to bite off his most precious sceptre?

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Because you are assuming that all women will fight back--many do not out of fear, intimidation and threats.

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J'accuse.....by Émile Zola....

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/J%27accuse

This whole case reminds me of this (in)famous letter, although about anti-semitism and unlawful jailing of Dreyfus in 1898.

This "problem" with DSK is going to be a huge world wide case and if the US doesn't act carefully it's going to grow over it's head but also over France's and Europe's head.

I watched the prosecutor and defense (live on television), delivering their stories to judge Mrs Melissa Jackson who was to decide over the $ 1 million bail for DSK and I couldn't believe my ears and eyes when she asked the defense to explain about a possible "laissez-passer" travel document and what it could mean.

It appeared to me she didn't know nor ever learnt about the same and considered the 62 year old to be a risk that he would flee the USA.

BTW, Judge Mrs. Melissa Jackson seems to have a certain reputation if I Google her....

"While she was being handcuffed, Ms Marchand shouted at a court officer and, Judge Jackson said, hit her." - BBC" :o*

That she considered DSK to be a risk of fleeing says something about her (limited) judgement and not realizing that a man with his stature would NOT flee (his wife was already on the way to NY from Paris as told to the judge), risking about everything he has and stands for.

Electronic guarding in the form of wearing an ankle monitor was refused also by the judge.

Apart from that the general consensus in France is that people don't believe this story and that it is over the top.

DSK is infamously known about his womanizing attitude but certainly not a rapist as it is delivered to the public by the media now.

IN FACT:

DSK, only a few weeks ago explained in an interview in France that he was worried about 3 things with regards to his political life and future as a possible candidate for French President and many people in France considered him to be an absolute winner of the next Presidental Election, over Sarkozy, and -much worse- the far right National Front of Ms Marine Le pen, daughter of Jean-Marie le Pen whi will have a very good chance of winning the elections in 2012 now:

* WEALTH; for a left socialist leader DSK is considered and watched upon with suspicion (in France) because of his wealth, mainly because of the inhereted wealth of his wife, American born but French Mrs. Anne Sinclair.

* WOMEN: DSK was very worried in this interview and expressed that their could be a great chance that he would be framed, set-up, by a woman/girl for a large amount of money, surpassing € 500.000 ($ 700.000) or more BECAUSE of his "womanizing" reputation, true or not; amazing prediction by himself, just a few weeks before this happened, isn't it? :unsure:

* JEWISH: He was afraid that political France would attack him and/or his wife for being a member of the Jewish society in France; insiders will know that being a Jew in France is not accepted everywhere and by everyone and quite risky as well.

Many people don't understand the magnitude of the arrest of DSK; it is like a former President of the US like Bill Clinton, George W. Bush or anybody else with a high profile would have been arrested and handcuffed for a allegedly sex-crime in Paris, London, Frankfurt thrown in jail without the possibility of showering, washing and dressing properly and shown to the press. Can anybody even imagine that ?

It would cause an uproar in the US as never seen before and everyone in the US would fight this arrest.

In NY, the attitude of the police, showing him off with handcuffs in front of hundreds of cameras and journalists says something about the way police handle criminals but should not do the same with "suspects" of a certain standing. He's still a mere suspect, not a criminal or murderer.

It is a shame that the police didn't allow him to properly shave, shower and dress (in 2 days) for the hearing by the judge and/or handle him with a certain dignity, still being a suspect, accused by a native African woman of 32 years old of whom we don't know anything so far. NOTHING.

WHO is she? how long did she work in the hotel, isn't it strange she is from Guinea/Guinee in Africa, a former French colony, speaking French in a French hotel chain, the Sofitel in NY, entering the suite of a high profile Frenchman whilst he was still inside, not even allowed to enter whilst the suite was occupied; she could have seen the moment she entered the suite !?

No way a foreign statesman, head of an important UN institute, or even a chief of the FED would be handled, handcuffed and treated like a criminal in Europe the way DSK was taken care of by the NY police.

I'm sure President Obama is not pleased with this situation...at all.... and feels quite aand utterly embarrassed whether DSK is guilty as accused, or not.

BUT, it also shows something else: that men in general are immediately considered "guilty" of sexual assault in case a woman reports the same to the police, especially if you are of a high standing.

* http://www.judiciary..._foxy_brown.htm

LaoPo

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Because you are assuming that all women will fight back--many do not out of fear, intimidation and threats.

If this really happened and she had "bit it" he might have killed her. Many women - many people - would be in too much in fear of their lives to fight with a stronger attacker who was willing to commit such a crime. :o

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No way a foreign statesman, head of an important UN institute, or even a chief of the FED would be handled, handcuffed and treated like a criminal in Europe the way DSK was taken care of by the NY police.

TIA (This Is America) :whistling:

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No way a foreign statesman, head of an important UN institute, or even a chief of the FED would be handled, handcuffed and treated like a criminal in Europe the way DSK was taken care of by the NY police.

TIA (This Is America) :whistling:

Tis true if instead he had bilked hundreds/thousands out of billions $$$ he would be free on bail at once till some shred of proof was found. Yet this man with no previous record remains in jail with bail denied because he is a so called flight risk?

Yet the one with billions of reasons to run is let free till trial ( & rightfully so if all are equally innocent till proven guilty )

So yes I have to agree Naam ....TIA....but it is becoming Amerika if we continue to let it.

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