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In a few weeks, I'm off and leaving my Nouvo Elegance for almost five months.

I've been using 91 petrol and occasionally 91 or 95 gasohol, depending on availability.

Now, I'm wondering if maybe I should use something to ensure carburetor and gas lines are cleaned out before I park it.

I can get something called "Hardex Auto Grade Petrol Treatment". According to the label, it's "formulated with Hardex's high purity polyetheramine (PEA) detergent to remove deposit from an critical fuel system components." (sic)

It contains petroleum distillates.

I don't understand any of this, and wonder if perhaps I should put some (how much?) into a tank of petrol to ensure decent storage.

Ideas?

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Nobody mechanical or experienced with using petrol additives on a small motorbike?

I'm so mechanical that if I turn the handle and the bike doesn't move forward, it's broken rolleyes.gif

Posted

Nobody mechanical or experienced with using petrol additives on a small motorbike?

I'm so mechanical that if I turn the handle and the bike doesn't move forward, it's broken rolleyes.gif

as it has a steel tank, it should be left with full tank petrol. No gasohol as it may separate within few weeks.

Most efficient is to close fuel valve and run engine until carb is empty and engine thus stops

Posted

Nobody mechanical or experienced with using petrol additives on a small motorbike?

I'm so mechanical that if I turn the handle and the bike doesn't move forward, it's broken rolleyes.gif

as it has a steel tank, it should be left with full tank petrol. No gasohol as it may separate within few weeks.

Most efficient is to close fuel valve and run engine until carb is empty and engine thus stops

Agree with the above.

You dont really need to empty the carb, just dont forget to open the drain line before you start it.

5 months is not that long, keep it cover and in close area.

You can find one chemical they use for snowbike, "fuel conditioner" they called to keep the fuel fresh, but i doubt you can find it here.

From my experience :

1. fill up the gas

2. keep it cover and in close area

3. Open the drain line in the carb when return

4. empty the whole tank if you can and fill it with fresh gasoline

Posted

Nobody mechanical or experienced with using petrol additives on a small motorbike?

I'm so mechanical that if I turn the handle and the bike doesn't move forward, it's broken rolleyes.gif

as it has a steel tank, it should be left with full tank petrol. No gasohol as it may separate within few weeks.

Most efficient is to close fuel valve and run engine until carb is empty and engine thus stops

Agree with the above.

You dont really need to empty the carb, just dont forget to open the drain line before you start it.

5 months is not that long, keep it cover and in close area.

You can find one chemical they use for snowbike, "fuel conditioner" they called to keep the fuel fresh, but i doubt you can find it here.

From my experience :

1. fill up the gas

2. keep it cover and in close area

3. Open the drain line in the carb when return

4. empty the whole tank if you can and fill it with fresh gasoline

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely fill the tank and immediately drive home, so just a few km won't take much out of the tank. I'll leave it either in the covered and protected carport, or even push/pull it up inside my living room. And I'll see about running it near enough to empty and then filling the tank before I go.

Don't quite understand that bit about opening the drain line in the carb when I get back. Just twist the handle a couple of times and use the kick start? Wonder how long I'll need to ride in order to recharge the battery.

Any ideas about using that petrol treatment?

Posted

petrol treatment is very difficult to find here, so forget about it.

When you want to start your bike for the first time after long period of storage, you need to open the drain line (one bolt under the carb) in order to empty the carb.

For the battery, just take it out and place it somewhere else. Buy battery charger (150 baht) and charge it when you get back.

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Nobody mechanical or experienced with using petrol additives on a small motorbike?

I'm so mechanical that if I turn the handle and the bike doesn't move forward, it's broken rolleyes.gif

as it has a steel tank, it should be left with full tank petrol. No gasohol as it may separate within few weeks.

Most efficient is to close fuel valve and run engine until carb is empty and engine thus stops

Agree with the above.

You dont really need to empty the carb, just dont forget to open the drain line before you start it.

5 months is not that long, keep it cover and in close area.

You can find one chemical they use for snowbike, "fuel conditioner" they called to keep the fuel fresh, but i doubt you can find it here.

From my experience :

1. fill up the gas

2. keep it cover and in close area

3. Open the drain line in the carb when return

4. empty the whole tank if you can and fill it with fresh gasoline

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely fill the tank and immediately drive home, so just a few km won't take much out of the tank. I'll leave it either in the covered and protected carport, or even push/pull it up inside my living room. And I'll see about running it near enough to empty and then filling the tank before I go.

Don't quite understand that bit about opening the drain line in the carb when I get back. Just twist the handle a couple of times and use the kick start? Wonder how long I'll need to ride in order to recharge the battery.

Any ideas about using that petrol treatment?

Fill with Caltex 91 if you have the choice. If there's a fuel shutoff valve on your bike, turn it to "off" while the engine is running and let it run out of fuel. Buy a smart maintenance battery charger and plug it in before you cover it up for 5 months. Oh, and put it on the center stand if it has one.

Posted

petrol treatment is very difficult to find here, so forget about it.

When you want to start your bike for the first time after long period of storage, you need to open the drain line (one bolt under the carb) in order to empty the carb.

For the battery, just take it out and place it somewhere else. Buy battery charger (150 baht) and charge it when you get back.

Hardex Petrol Treatment from Tesco-Lotus

I did mention I'm mechanically inept, didn't I? I don't even know where the carb is on my Nouvo. Everything is behind panels.

I might, and I repeat that might, be able to find the battery by reading the manual. I'm off shopping tomorrow, so will see about buying the battery charger.

There's no fuel shutoff valve that I'm aware of.

And I will definitely put it on the centre stand when I leave it, rather than the side kickstand.

Posted

battery is located under the seat, inside the compartment.

No shut-off valve as far as i know.

you better read the manual to figure it out for the carb location.

Posted

Well, off shopping for the battery charger today.

I don't know how many shops I went through until finally in one small motorbike repair shop, I was told they had a recharging service, but there were no chargers available for sale in the city of Rayong!! ohmy.gif

Flabbergasted!! annoyed.gif

So, I'm spending this weekend in Bangkok, and if anyone knows where I can buy one there, let me know.

Otherwise, probably manage to buy one when I'm away over the summer and bring it back with me. Pretty sure I can just walk into almost any automotive supply store in North America and pick one off the shelves!

Posted

i found mine in bangkok, zeer rangsit, 1st floor, NPE shop. plenty of charger there.... from 150 baht normal tricker charger up to 3000 baht standard car charger.

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i found mine in bangkok, zeer rangsit, 1st floor, NPE shop. plenty of charger there.... from 150 baht normal tricker charger up to 3000 baht standard car charger.

The charger needs to be a "smart" charger like a Battery Tender. They aren't cheap. Check with any big bike shop in BKK like Red Baron and see what they have. Richco, in Chiang Mai, sells them.

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