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ANALYSIS

A last-ditch attempt

By The Nation

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Democrats to focus attacks on Thaksin and red-shirt riots at Royal Plaza today

As the election campaign reaches its end, arch-rivals the Democrat Party and Pheu Thai are expected to try and land knock-out punches on each other in a final bid to sweep up undecided voters in Sunday's election.

The Democrats have a clear strategy to attack Pheu Thai on two perceived weak points: last year's bloody red-shirt protest and the proposed amnesty for former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

The party claims Pheu Thai is contesting the polls only to take power for Thaksin. By contrast, the Democrat Party says it works for the whole country, not just one person.

Democrat strategist Korbsak Sabhavasu said speakers at the party's rally at Royal Plaza this evening would focus on telling people the truth. "We will not say the same things as on the Ratchaprasong stage, but will provide information for voters to make their decision on election day," he said.

"We will provide analysis to the audience to show clearly that most of Pheu Thai's policies are not consistent and keep changing all the time," Korbsak said.

One day Pheu Thai promised to raise minimum wages to Bt300 for unskilled labourers. On another day it said only skilled labourers would receive that wage, he said.

The Democrats also have a policy for national reconciliation but will not grant amnesties to anyone who commits crimes and corruption, he said.

Only political cases will get amnesty, he said. Asked if red shirts and their leaders such as Jatuporn Promphan would be included in the Democrats' reconciliation plans, Korbsak said arson and terrorism were not political cases.

The Democrats are also heavily promoting the election in order to get the maximum number of voters to cast their ballots. Not only are they promoting the message through social media such as Facebook and Twitter, they are asking their supporters to tell 10 of their family members and friends to vote.

The party believes there are a large number of undecided voters and if they receive information from the party they will certainly vote for the Democrats.

Democrat leader Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said he would take the stage at Royal Plaza to show the voters the future of Thailand if his party is elected to run the country again.

Next time it will not allocate key ministries to other coalition parties, he said on a television programme yesterday.

Meanwhile, the final stretch of Pheu Thai's campaign will focus on policy and avoid responding to the Democrats' attacks. It will also avoid talking about Thaksin's amnesty. If it does, it will say only that it is not Pheu Thai's policy to secure an amnesty for Thaksin.

Pheu Thai's top candidate Yingluck Shinawatra recently posted an article titled "Thailand Vision 2020" on Facebook explaining what the Thai people would get if Pheu Thai got the chance to govern until 2020. The policies covered the cost of living, mass transportation, the economy and finance.

Yingluck said that if Pheu Thai won the election, Thailand would overcome poverty by 2020. University graduates would earn Bt30,000 per month for an entry-level job and the minimum wage would rise to Bt1,000 per day, she said.

Yingluck and her party will today take the stage at Rajamangala National Stadium to make their final appeal to voters.

The stadium is huge, with the capacity to accommodate 70,000 people, but the party believes the number of people attending would exceed the capacity.

Live Internet streaming will broadcast from the stage to the party's 375 stations in every constituency of the country, party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said.

Pheu Thai candidate Natthawut Saikua said the party would not need a knockout punch at Rajamangala as he believed most voters had already decided who they would vote for.

"Indeed, its thanks to the Democrats, as their strategy of verbal attacks really helped Pheu Thai to get a lot of sympathy from voters, notably in Bangkok," he said.

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-- The Nation 2011-07-01

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Add it to ridding Thailand of drugs in 12 months, solving Bangkok's traffic in 6 months, joining the OECD group within 5 years...blah blah blah, sounding like a stuck record here (how can you take these liars seriously)

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Yingluck said that if Pheu Thai won the election, Thailand would overcome poverty by 2020. University graduates would earn Bt30,000 per month for an entry-level job and the minimum wage would rise to Bt1,000 per day, she said.

So shes saying university grads will get minimum wage ??

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Yingluck said that if Pheu Thai won the election, Thailand would overcome poverty by 2020. University graduates would earn Bt30,000 per month for an entry-level job and the minimum wage would rise to Bt1,000 per day, she said.

So shes saying university grads will get minimum wage ??

Jealous? :ph34r:

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The Democrats also have a policy for national reconciliation but will not grant amnesties to anyone who commits crimes and corruption, he said.

Only political cases will get amnesty, he said.

So what the heck is a Political Amnesty for then ??? Amazing Thailand.whistling.gif

Troubles ahead I feel, if only this election would help things to stop this downward spiral. Many good points int he article though, be it one sided

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The Democrats also have a policy for national reconciliation but will not grant amnesties to anyone who commits crimes and corruption, he said.

Only political cases will get amnesty, he said.

So what the heck is a Political Amnesty for then ???

For those banned from politics.

Thai Rak Thai

People Power

Chart Thai

Matchima Thipataya

and a few other smaller parties.

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Add it to ridding Thailand of drugs in 12 months, solving Bangkok's traffic in 6 months, joining the OECD group within 5 years...blah blah blah, sounding like a stuck record here (how can you take these liars seriously)

people do believe them because they want to, their stupid, because they are not educated, just because whatever but they do believe them

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Yingluck said that if Pheu Thai won the election:

1) Thailand would overcome poverty by 2020. - this means raising taxes

2) University graduates would earn Bt30,000 per month for an entry-level job - this means uni grads have just been put out of the job market average salary for uni grads is 8k-15k baht , top universities already exceed this, close to 65% of uni students use government loans. Who defines entry level job?

3) The minimum wage would rise to Bt1,000 per day, she said. - this means minimum wage would have to rise by close to 400 %, a factory worker making 6k baht per month will now make 20k per month, Thailands competive edge in manufacturing labor wages has just disappeared, good bye export market.

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Clearly these are promises that cannot come true. But then again this party's claims have always been aimed at folks who aren't familiar with 'how things work', since that is where all the votes are.

It's really sad that she would make these blatant lies.

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i feel a dark cloud is coming over Thailand again...

it sadens me to see the uneducated so gullible and....

lets hope and pray for thailand in the next weeks, that the lesser of evils prevails...

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Living about 2-1/2 blocks away from Royal Plaza I may just walk over and have a look at the Dem's rally. Assuming it doesn't rain like yesterday evening, that is :ermm:

Anyone who knows what time it starts ?

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Living about 2-1/2 blocks away from Royal Plaza I may just walk over and have a look at the Dem's rally. Assuming it doesn't rain like yesterday evening, that is :ermm:

Anyone who knows what time it starts ?

Well, don't know when the rally starts, but here in Khet Dusit heavy rain started around 5:42PM.

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Yingluck said that if Pheu Thai won the election:

1) Thailand would overcome poverty by 2020. - this means raising taxes

2) University graduates would earn Bt30,000 per month for an entry-level job - this means uni grads have just been put out of the job market average salary for uni grads is 8k-15k baht , top universities already exceed this, close to 65% of uni students use government loans. Who defines entry level job?

3) The minimum wage would rise to Bt1,000 per day, she said. - this means minimum wage would have to rise by close to 400 %, a factory worker making 6k baht per month will now make 20k per month, Thailands competive edge in manufacturing labor wages has just disappeared, good bye export market.

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Clearly these are promises that cannot come true. But then again this party's claims have always been aimed at folks who aren't familiar with 'how things work', since that is where all the votes are.

It's really sad that she would make these blatant lies.

if they pegged the baht at 100-120 to the US$ they could make those wages.

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A people get the government they deserve.

Not always,

some times the rich an powerful fool the people into

electing a false flag government:

Say one thing to get the job

and then do what ever they want once they have it,

and pretend this is what the peoples votes meant.

The REAL Voter Fraud in Thailand.

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Pheu Thai candidate Natthawut Saikua said the party would not need a knockout punch at Rajamangala as he believed most voters had already decided who they would vote for.

"Indeed, its thanks to the Democrats, as their strategy of verbal attacks really helped Pheu Thai to get a lot of sympathy from voters, notably in Bangkok," he said.

Indeed indeed. Exactly the same strategy being used by TV posters here. Merely the same rehash, time after time, post after post, thread after thread.

I for one would not vote for a party whose main thrust is to discredit the opposition. That's like saying, vote for me, the other guy is worse instead of vote for me, I'm better.

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Pheu Thai candidate Natthawut Saikua said the party would not need a knockout punch at Rajamangala as he believed most voters had already decided who they would vote for.

"Indeed, its thanks to the Democrats, as their strategy of verbal attacks really helped Pheu Thai to get a lot of sympathy from voters, notably in Bangkok," he said.

Indeed indeed. Exactly the same strategy being used by TV posters here. Merely the same rehash, time after time, post after post, thread after thread.

I for one would not vote for a party whose main thrust is to discredit the opposition. That's like saying, vote for me, the other guy is worse instead of vote for me, I'm better.

With promises like these, Pheu Thai are discrediting themselves.

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Pheu Thai candidate Natthawut Saikua said the party would not need a knockout punch at Rajamangala as he believed most voters had already decided who they would vote for.

"Indeed, its thanks to the Democrats, as their strategy of verbal attacks really helped Pheu Thai to get a lot of sympathy from voters, notably in Bangkok," he said.

Indeed indeed. Exactly the same strategy being used by TV posters here. Merely the same rehash, time after time, post after post, thread after thread.

I for one would not vote for a party whose main thrust is to discredit the opposition. That's like saying, vote for me, the other guy is worse instead of vote for me, I'm better.

Merely the same rehash, time after time, post after post

Yes, you have been consistant.

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Dunno why, but when you mentioned tarmac the following incident came to mind.

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Pheu Thai candidate Natthawut Saikua said the party would not need a knockout punch at Rajamangala as he believed most voters had already decided who they would vote for.

"Indeed, its thanks to the Democrats, as their strategy of verbal attacks really helped Pheu Thai to get a lot of sympathy from voters, notably in Bangkok," he said.

Indeed indeed. Exactly the same strategy being used by TV posters here. Merely the same rehash, time after time, post after post, thread after thread.

I for one would not vote for a party whose main thrust is to discredit the opposition. That's like saying, vote for me, the other guy is worse instead of vote for me, I'm better.

With PTP and UDD leaders always threatening to sue people who say something they don't like, by actually making good on their threat, we see a continuous discrediting by insinuation, threats, half-truths, and maybe even some lies. When the Dem's had their rally at Ratchaprasong, k. Natthawut didn't like to see the PTV clip where he said 'I'll take the blame', probably only because of copyright issues ;)

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Dunno why, but when you mentioned tarmac the following incident came to mind.

So he could possibly kill two birds with one stone next week .Kiss the tarmac ,then become a martyr!biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Probably arrive on the 8th (lucky Chinese number)To massive fanfare and huge crowds of supporters, probably ten's thousands, like a returning hero into the airport he built.

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Dunno why, but when you mentioned tarmac the following incident came to mind.

So he could possibly kill two birds with one stone next week .Kiss the tarmac ,then become a martyr!biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

Maybe this could fulfil Khun Thaksin's requirements for future a residence in the kingdom,complete with Moat for added security.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauls_fotos/2141110429/

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Dunno why, but when you mentioned tarmac the following incident came to mind.

So he could possibly kill two birds with one stone next week .Kiss the tarmac ,then become a martyr!biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

Maybe this could fulfil Khun Thaksin's requirements for future a residence in the kingdom,complete with Moat for added security.

http://www.flickr.co...tos/2141110429/

Or maybe this:

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Probably arrive on the 8th (lucky Chinese number)To massive fanfare and huge crowds of supporters, probably ten's thousands, like a returning hero into the airport he built.

Just as well those cracks in the runway that he tried to sue over for a journalist daring to mention have been repaired, otherwise he might risk a pratfall.

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Probably arrive on the 8th (lucky Chinese number)To massive fanfare and huge crowds of supporters, probably ten's thousands, like a returning hero into the airport he built.

Just as well those cracks in the runway that he tried to sue over for a journalist daring to mention have been repaired, otherwise he might risk a pratfall.

Haven't noticed any planes having a problem, ready for the landslide tomorrow?

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I wonder if Mr Taksin will kiss the tarmac when he arrives in Thailand next week?whistling.gif

Probably arrive on the 8th (lucky Chinese number)To massive fanfare and huge crowds of supporters, probably ten's thousands, like a returning hero into the airport he built.

Just as well those cracks in the runway that he tried to sue over for a journalist daring to mention have been repaired, otherwise he might risk a pratfall.

Haven't noticed any planes having a problem, ready for the landslide tomorrow?

The cracks have been repaired, the leaking roof has been repaired, toilets/washingrooms added, shops pushed back to allow people to walk. Since the official opening, forgotten essentials have been added you might say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_the_Suvarnabhumi_Airport_project

Mind you, a landslide might cause the airport to close for a moment. Can't have a muddy runway, now can we ;)

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Haven't noticed any planes having a problem,

Why would you? The cracks that Thaksin refused to believe existed, and that he tried suing over, costing a Bangkok Post journalist their job (until the truth was proven), have since been repaired.

ready for the landslide tomorrow?

How is one supposed to prepare for this prediction of yours?

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