Is A Proof Of Residence Requited To Buy, And Register An Automobile?

[buzzer]

Hi,

I've been told the answer is yes, and that I can only get that in the place I last reported and had my last change of address, Ko Samui. I bought a minibus in BKK, and need to register it here. I think I can change my address to here, at least temporarily. But even that is a hassle.

One would think that my passport, with my Retiree Visa, showing I haven't left the country in 8 years, together with the bluebook from my minibus I bought 5 years ago, and a drivers license, which I've had for 6 years would do the trick, but TIT!

Thanks,

Buzzer

[bangkokrick]

I think that what you have been told is correct. I certainly had to show proof of address when i bought my car last year. I used my yellow house book for this purpose if this is any help.

[buzzer]

No house papers. Even my farang landlord didn't make me sign a lease, just a paper in English that says we would go month to month.

Buzzer

[bifftastic]

What they want is an address. Same as in the UK, you register the vehicle to an address. The fact that you're allowed to be in the country is one thing, but if you want to register it in Bangkok, then you'll need a Bangkok address. Looks like you'll have to go through the hassle of an official address change

[NALAK]

copy of house book signed by lanlord should be enough, its hassle i have changed names on 2 vehicles and also changed them from Surat/Phitsonulok to chon buri plates. proof of address from immigration. as they were sales both parties had to be there and declare sale price. waited 2 months and got new number plates for new province.

[Jebhead]

copy of house book signed by lanlord should be enough, its hassle i have changed names on 2 vehicles and also changed them from Surat/Phitsonulok to chon buri plates. proof of address from immigration. as they were sales both parties had to be there and declare sale price. waited 2 months and got new number plates for new province.

I'd be very surprised if Thai's went through all this if they moved & changed address!

JH

[katabeachbum]

copy of house book signed by lanlord should be enough, its hassle i have changed names on 2 vehicles and also changed them from Surat/Phitsonulok to chon buri plates. proof of address from immigration. as they were sales both parties had to be there and declare sale price. waited 2 months and got new number plates for new province.

I'd be very surprised if Thai's went through all this if they moved & changed address!

JH

Go to your embassy in BKK, tell them where you live in BKK (worst case a hotel), they issue the certficate, and vehicle can be reg to you. cost a few hundred to two thousand at embassy , but problem solved

For Thai nationals and PR foreigners, DLT has adress in DLT computer updated every day, so easy going

[PatongPete]

OK. yhou can show a work permit or get an address paper. Either your embassy or Immi Offit. Just show a title or a rental agreement. I have alwayus been a no brainer type of deal for me Make sure the Immi doc is and original and not more that 30 dayhs old. You need pic for either Embassy or Imm papers

[buzzer]

Hi,

The fact that this is dealing with an automobile (van) purchase, caused one of the moderators to move it to the Thailand Motor Forum - a bad move. I posted it in Thaivisa's Visa & Immigration Forums

Thai visas, residency and work permits

Visa, visa runs, visa extensions, work permit, immigration, residency in Thailand.

This is MUCH more than an automotive issue, and the real experts are on that forum.

NOW they say that, even if I change my address temporarily, I have to drive the car back to Ko Samui to have it registered - because that's when I had my last check-in 1 month 1 day ago. But I'm moving out of Samui, and I don't want to do my registration, or my next check-in there because then I have to be there 3 months later to check in again because of the baht 'seasoning' required once a year. I thought I could check in anywhere, and went to Chiang Mai to see a well respected dentist there. They said, I could get a temporary address there, but I didn't know anyone in Chiang Mai. I DO know lots of people that could help me out in that department, but, according to the latest information, I have to take the car back to the place of my last check in within 14 days (it's 15 now because I've had to make upgrades/repairs to make it safe to drive.

In the meantime, Within a month,I will be moving from Samui, traveling, looking for a place to live. Hence the van. I want something large to travel with my adoptive Thai/Indian family (2 adults and 2 little girls) looking on the Andaman coast, both here and Malaysia for a better place than that mess they call Samui. So why is the Thai govt. tying me to Samui? I lived in Bkk, and Pattaya, and never had a hassle there. Is there no such thing as 'moving' in Thailand, or having 2 cars in different cities?

Befuddled,

Buzzer

Can you reconsider, and move it back to the 'proper' forum, where it will get the professional attention it deserves. This isn't about a car it's about residence papers, check-ins, visa renewal, and not how to find a gear shift knob with a skull on it.

Thanks again - Buzzer

[wandrinstar]

Seems like a lot of Fuss.I bought an B.M.7 second hand from a tin pot Embassy in Bkk,when i lived in various Hotels here..Got the Blue Book, went North, Tax ran out,so i just asked a bloke outside the Tax Office to buy the Sticker on his Ubon I.D. Card, no need to change from BKK book or plates,Up to You.

[katabeachbum]

Hi,

The fact that this is dealing with an automobile (van) purchase, caused one of the moderators to move it to the Thailand Motor Forum - a bad move. I posted it in Thaivisa's Visa & Immigration Forums

Thai visas, residency and work permits

Visa, visa runs, visa extensions, work permit, immigration, residency in Thailand.

This is MUCH more than an automotive issue, and the real experts are on that forum.

NOW they say that, even if I change my address temporarily, I have to drive the car back to Ko Samui to have it registered - because that's when I had my last check-in 1 month 1 day ago. But I'm moving out of Samui, and I don't want to do my registration, or my next check-in there because then I have to be there 3 months later to check in again because of the baht 'seasoning' required once a year. I thought I could check in anywhere, and went to Chiang Mai to see a well respected dentist there. They said, I could get a temporary address there, but I didn't know anyone in Chiang Mai. I DO know lots of people that could help me out in that department, but, according to the latest information, I have to take the car back to the place of my last check in within 14 days (it's 15 now because I've had to make upgrades/repairs to make it safe to drive.

In the meantime, Within a month,I will be moving from Samui, traveling, looking for a place to live. Hence the van. I want something large to travel with my adoptive Thai/Indian family (2 adults and 2 little girls) looking on the Andaman coast, both here and Malaysia for a better place than that mess they call Samui. So why is the Thai govt. tying me to Samui? I lived in Bkk, and Pattaya, and never had a hassle there. Is there no such thing as 'moving' in Thailand, or having 2 cars in different cities?

Befuddled,

Buzzer

Can you reconsider, and move it back to the 'proper' forum, where it will get the professional attention it deserves. This isn't about a car it's about residence papers, check-ins, visa renewal, and not how to find a gear shift knob with a skull on it.

Thanks again - Buzzer

There is a mixup here about visa/ 90 day adress report, and what DLT requires to register your vehicle. If you follow my advise in previous post, you will complete a transfer in BKK. Pull the adress report slip out of passport before presenting to DLT, and display "Certificate of Residence".

here in Motoring you get advice on vehicles and what DLT requires.

Suggest you make another topic in Visa forum on the rest

[buzzer]

Go to your embassy in BKK, tell them where you live in BKK (worst case a hotel), they issue the certficate, and vehicle can be reg to you. cost a few hundred to two thousand at embassy , but problem solved

For Thai nationals and PR foreigners, DLT has address in DLT computer updated every day, so easy going

JH

Go to your embassy in BKK, tell them where you live in BKK (worst case a hotel), they issue the certficate, and vehicle can be reg to you. cost a few hundred to two thousand at embassy , but problem solved

For Thai nationals and PR foreigners, DLT has adress in DLT computer updated every day, so easy going

Hi again,

That sounds easier. I was looking to get a certificate of residence, not about permanent residence status. I've always gotten them from the local immigration offices.

Also, in 8 years here I never registered with the US Embassy - wonder if there might be a hassle about that?

Above you use some acronyms I've never heard. I think I may have figured them out. Is DLT the Thai Department of Land and Transportation? By PR do you mean Permanent Resident? Sorry if I confused the issue making anyone think I'm a permanent resident. I'm not a permanent resident, and wouldn't have my address in the DLT computer, unless it was given to them by Samui Immigration, where I put in my last change of address. I am here on a retirement visa, and have never considered applying for formal resident status.

Does the rest of what you have to say applies even if you're not a PR?

Thanks, Buzzer

[katabeachbum]

Hi again,

That sounds easier. I was looking to get a certificate of residence, not about permanent residence status. I've always gotten them from the local immigration offices.

Also, in 8 years here I never registered with the US Embassy - wonder if there might be a hassle about that?

Above you use some acronyms I've never heard. I think I may have figured them out. Is DLT the Thai Department of Land and Transportation? By PR do you mean Permanent Resident? Sorry if I confused the issue making anyone think I'm a permanent resident. I'm not a permanent resident, and wouldn't have my address in the DLT computer, unless it was given to them by Samui Immigration, where I put in my last change of address. I am here on a retirement visa, and have never considered applying for formal resident status.

Does the rest of what you have to say applies even if you're not a PR?

Thanks, Buzzer

Sorry about the acronyms

DLT Department of Land Transportation

PR Permanent Resident, very hard to obtain may I ad

With passport with valid permit to stay and "Certificate of Residence" issued by your Embassy, DLT has no reason to not accept you as new owner at the adress mentioned in certificate

You can make a later adress change at any DLT if desired

[buzzer]

Hi again,

That sounds easier. I was looking to get a certificate of residence, not about permanent residence status. I've always gotten them from the local immigration offices.

Also, in 8 years here I never registered with the US Embassy - wonder if there might be a hassle about that?

Above you use some acronyms I've never heard. I think I may have figured them out. Is DLT the Thai Department of Land and Transportation? By PR do you mean Permanent Resident? Sorry if I confused the issue making anyone think I'm a permanent resident. I'm not a permanent resident, and wouldn't have my address in the DLT computer, unless it was given to them by Samui Immigration, where I put in my last change of address. I am here on a retirement visa, and have never considered applying for formal resident status.

Does the rest of what you have to say applies even if you're not a PR?

Thanks, Buzzer

Sorry about the acronyms

DLT Department of Land Transportation

PR Permanent Resident, very hard to obtain may I ad

With passport with valid permit to stay and "Certificate of Residence" issued by your Embassy, DLT has no reason to not accept you as new owner at the adress mentioned in certificate

You can make a later adress change at any DLT if desired

[buzzer]

Hi

I just went and got a notarized document from US Embassy. It says - because US required it- "Proof of residence to obtain Thai Certificate of Residence to register a motor vehicle." Above that is the address on the residences letterhead, signed and stamped by the manager. Affixed to all that is a passport copy with my signature.

Should I take that directly to the place to register the car, or do I go to Thai Immigrtion first?

Thanks,

Buzzer

[katabeachbum]

Hi

I just went and got a notarized document from US Embassy. It says - because US required it- "Proof of residence to obtain Thai Certificate of Residence to register a motor vehicle." Above that is the address on the residences letterhead, signed and stamped by the manager. Affixed to all that is a passport copy with my signature.

Should I take that directly to the place to register the car, or do I go to Thai Immigrtion first?

Thanks,

Buzzer

I would give it a shot at DLT to see if they accept it to register.

bring your original passport as some DLT require to inspect it

Good luck

[JeffreyMcCollum]

to buy no

to register yes

[buzzer]

to buy no

to register yes

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[buzzer]

Hi,

Just to let you know,katabeachbum's suggestion was right. I was able to register my car with a paper from the US Embassy. It was a notarized document stating my current residence. Cost a whopping $50 or 1500 Baht to have them notarize the form.

This was accepted by DLT. So, all went well.

Thanks,

Buzzer

[phormio]

Thanks in advance for all knowledgeable advice:

I've been here for 5 years,living in Bangkok, on a Non-Imm O visa, no work permit and am buying a new vehicle and want to

register it under my name. I need to renew my Non-Imm O based onTthai marriage, which this time requires that I register my

marriage in Thailand. I'm also need to renew my five year Thai drivers license soon.

For these things I need to prove/certify address.

These seem to be the only options:

a. Go to Immigration Department for a certification of resident address (about 100 baht)

b. Go to US embassy and get a certification of residency letter by swearing under oath (about 1500 baht)

c. Using Work Permit as proof of address (doesn't apply to me)

d. Using Permanent Residency Status as proof of address (doesn't apply to me)

Only a and b apply to me. Since item b is expensive I would prefer to go with choice a.

(In the immigration forum they indicate that resident address for registration of marriage can be proved through letter from

the immigration department certifying address based on 90 day report)

I assume that I can use this address certification from immigration for marriage registration, driver's license renewal, and vehicle registration. Is this correct?

Have I got all this right or am I missing something?

Thanks

[bifftastic]

I think you're missing something

You don't need a certificate of residence to register a marriage.

You don't renew a visa based on marriage at the immigration office inside Thailand, you extend your permission to stay based on the fact that you're married to a Thai national.

Once you have done that, you then do 90 day reporting instead of what you do now, which is leave the country and come back every 90 days.

Once you are on an extension of stay, the immigration office will be able to issue a certificate of residence, because they will have processed your extension of stay, which includes proof of where you live, therefore, they are able to stamp a letter confirming your address.

Then you will be able to use that certificate to get a new driving licence, buy a car etc.

Until then, it's option B for you.

[katabeachbum]

I think you're missing something

You don't need a certificate of residence to register a marriage.

You don't renew a visa based on marriage at the immigration office inside Thailand, you extend your permission to stay based on the fact that you're married to a Thai national.

Once you have done that, you then do 90 day reporting instead of what you do now, which is leave the country and come back every 90 days.

Once you are on an extension of stay, the immigration office will be able to issue a certificate of residence, because they will have processed your extension of stay, which includes proof of where you live, therefore, they are able to stamp a letter confirming your address.

Then you will be able to use that certificate to get a new driving licence, buy a car etc.

Until then, it's option B for you.

and as this is the Motoring Forum, please keep visa discussions in the Visa Forum and not here.

Any visa or permit to stay (including entrystamp) is accepted to register a car or bike, in addition a certificate of residence from your Embassy or Immigration is needed. Thats it

[katabeachbum]

Thanks in advance for all knowledgeable advice:

I've been here for 5 years,living in Bangkok, on a Non-Imm O visa, no work permit and am buying a new vehicle and want to

register it under my name. I need to renew my Non-Imm O based onTthai marriage, which this time requires that I register my

marriage in Thailand. I'm also need to renew my five year Thai drivers license soon.

For these things I need to prove/certify address.

These seem to be the only options:

a. Go to Immigration Department for a certification of resident address (about 100 baht)

b. Go to US embassy and get a certification of residency letter by swearing under oath (about 1500 baht)

c. Using Work Permit as proof of address (doesn't apply to me)

d. Using Permanent Residency Status as proof of address (doesn't apply to me)

Only a and b apply to me. Since item b is expensive I would prefer to go with choice a.

(In the immigration forum they indicate that resident address for registration of marriage can be proved through letter from

the immigration department certifying address based on 90 day report)

I assume that I can use this address certification from immigration for marriage registration, driver's license renewal, and vehicle registration. Is this correct?

Have I got all this right or am I missing something?

Thanks

address certificate looks different from different Immigrations. If it contains a stamped photo, most DLT require one original for each vehicl, no copies

[JohnLee]

Sorry to say I am a little confused with all the comments albeit sound advice. My situation is that I am buying my son's car who lives in Bkk. I live in Chiang Mai and currently own another car, registered in CM. I will be trotting off to Bkk soon as the weather allows to bring the son's car back to CM. Do we complete the change of registration process in Bkk or can it be done by myself, with someone who has power of attorney for my son, in Chiang Mai?

Cheers,

JL

[MaiChai]

I think you're missing something

You don't need a certificate of residence to register a marriage.

You don't renew a visa based on marriage at the immigration office inside Thailand, you extend your permission to stay based on the fact that you're married to a Thai national.

Once you have done that, you then do 90 day reporting instead of what you do now, which is leave the country and come back every 90 days.

Once you are on an extension of stay, the immigration office will be able to issue a certificate of residence, because they will have processed your extension of stay, which includes proof of where you live, therefore, they are able to stamp a letter confirming your address.

Then you will be able to use that certificate to get a new driving licence, buy a car etc.

Until then, it's option B for you.

Can I ask a question regarding the residency certificate: say you do your 90 day reporting. Then you leave the country and later either return on the same visa, or on a new visa. Assuming you are using the same passport. Do you have to wait the 90 days reporting before you can get a new certificate, or will they be able to issue a certificate based on your last reporting address?

[katabeachbum]

I think you're missing something

You don't need a certificate of residence to register a marriage.

You don't renew a visa based on marriage at the immigration office inside Thailand, you extend your permission to stay based on the fact that you're married to a Thai national.

Once you have done that, you then do 90 day reporting instead of what you do now, which is leave the country and come back every 90 days.

Once you are on an extension of stay, the immigration office will be able to issue a certificate of residence, because they will have processed your extension of stay, which includes proof of where you live, therefore, they are able to stamp a letter confirming your address.

Then you will be able to use that certificate to get a new driving licence, buy a car etc.

Until then, it's option B for you.

Can I ask a question regarding the residency certificate: say you do your 90 day reporting. Then you leave the country and later either return on the same visa, or on a new visa. Assuming you are using the same passport. Do you have to wait the 90 days reporting before you can get a new certificate, or will they be able to issue a certificate based on your last reporting address?

90 days reporting and CoR are in no way connected.

CoR is issued based on your permit to stay, 14 day entrystamp and upwards, and is valid as long as your permit to stay

DLT requires valid permit to stay and valid CoR