How To Arrange A Fast And Simple Marriage @ Amphur ?

[Member]

Hi everybody, next month I'm in Thailand for only 3 weeks just inbetween my work, and want to use the time to marry my gf, just functional and without any fringe and especially not that traditional stuff, and ofcourse no dowry all that local crap as both she, her parents and I we are down to earth people and we no need that.

Just a official certificate and for the amphur only, and no prenuptial agreement.

How to prepare this can my lawyer do this for me even before I'm there ?

Estimate of the official costs involved ?

Thanks.

Edited September 7, 2011 by metisdead
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[Moonrakers]

In Bangkok??

I went through an agency that did everything for me, got to cut through queues and everything (except at the embassy). Total cost about 8k baht-ish.

Easy peesy.

Edited September 7, 2011 by Moonrakers

[PoorSucker]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

[Semper]

How long have you known your GF?

I mean you're coming to Thailand for 3 weeks, and thinking, hey why not marry her while you're here.

Edited September 7, 2011 by Semper

[zzaa09]

How long have you known your GF?

I mean you're coming to Thailand for 3 weeks, and thinking, hey why not marry her while you're here.

Speculating, I would find this lifestyle quite bizarre and unsettling.

"Just dropping in for a couple weeks to marry the gal". And then what....??

Commuters existence?

[Mario2008]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

700 baht or 7,000 baht?

[Moonrakers]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

700 baht or 7,000 baht?

Think he must mean 7k.

Edited September 7, 2011 by Moonrakers

[Member]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

700 baht ?

cool I like that kind of marriage!

[Member]

How long have you known your GF?

I mean you're coming to Thailand for 3 weeks, and thinking, hey why not marry her while you're here.

Speculating, I would find this lifestyle quite bizarre and unsettling.

"Just dropping in for a couple weeks to marry the gal". And then what....??

Commuters existence?

And then I have to spend few more months in my home country working on a project, before going back to my home in Asia.

We know eachother long enough but thanks for worrying!

Edited September 7, 2011 by metisdead
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[OZEMADE]

I picked this info up at the Australian Embassy, you may want to pin it in the appropriate place.AUSTRALIAN EMBASSY BANGKOK

REGISTERING A MARRIAGE IN THAILAND

Information for Australian Citizens

This information sheet is to assist Australians wishing to register a marriage in Thailand to ensure it will be recognized as a valid marriage in Australia. THE EMBASSY CANNOT PROVIDE INFORMATION ON OTHER ISSUES, SUCH AS ORGANISING CELEBRANTS OR VENUES.

WHY DO I NEED TO LEGALLY REGISTER MY MARRIAGE

A marriage in Thailand must be registered with Thai Authorities to be a valid marriage under Thai Law.

If you do not formally register your marriage with Thai authorities you are not legally married in Thailand or Australia.

WILL OUR MARRIAGE BE RECOGNISED IN AUSTRALIA?

Since the 1^st January 1995 any legal marriage performed in an overseas country, which would have been legal had it been performed in Australia, is accepted as a legal marriage under Australian Law.

WHAT STEPS DO I NEED TO FOLLOW TO MARRY LEGALLY IN THAILAND

It is a Thai government requirement that steps 1-3 must be completed in Bangkok.

Step 1: Statutory declaration and Death/Divorce Certificates.

All Australians marrying in Thailand must complete a pro-forma Statutory Declaration. It is a Thai Government requirement that this be completed at the Australian Embassy in Bangkok (it cannot be done in Australia, elsewhere in Thailand, another embassy, or online). Under the Australian Consular Fees Act a fee of $20 per document is payable for this service***.

Thai authorities will not accept a "Single Certificate" issued by Births deaths and Marriages in Australia as these contain insufficient information in relation to the applicant and his/her personal circumstances.

It is mandatory that both the Embassy and Thai authorities be presented with documentary evidence confirming that the Australian citizen is free to marry. If previously married, an original divorce or death certificate must be provided to prove that you are no longer married. You can certify copies of your original documents at the Consular Service Section at the Embassy in Bangkok. A fee of $30 per document is payable for this service***.

***Fees: The above fees are payable in Thai Baht cash. The fee is linked to the AUD/THB exchange rate and is re-aligned each month. For current THB fee information please contact the Consular Information Service Section by phone or e-mail [email protected]

Step 2: Translation

You must have your documents translated into Thai at a private translation agency. There are many in Bangkok who can do this in one or two working days. Fees vary. The Australian Embassy cannot recommend any particular translation agency.

Step 3: Certification by Thai Department of Consular Affairs.

After the documents have been translated they must be authenticated by Thai authorities. These generally take two working days and a fee is payable. For information on this service you should contact:

Department of Consular Affairs

123 Moo 3, Changwattana Road

Kwang Toong Son Hong, Khet Laksi

Bangkok

Tel. (02) 9817171 Office hours; 08:30 – 15:30

Step 4: Marriage at the Amphur Office

When you have completed the above requirements, you should visit any District Office (Amphur) to formally register your marriage. You may wish to take an interpreter to facilitate communication with the Amphur Officials. You may need to make an appointment before proceeding to the Amphur. If you are marrying at a resort location, your celebrant or wedding planner will be able to advise you on the location of the nearest Amphur office.

AUSTRALIAN VISAS

For information on spouse or tourist visas to Australia please call 02 344 6400 or e-mail [email protected]

Consular Service Section, Australian Embassy Bangkok – Contact Details

Address: Australian Embassy Bangkok

37 South Sathorn Rd, Bangkok 10120

Operating Hours 08:30 – 16:30 Monday to Friday, excluding public holidays.

No appointment necessary.

Telephone: 02 344 6300

Fax; 02 344 6310

e-mail: [email protected]

[PoorSucker]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

700 baht or 7,000 baht?

1. Free, Finnish embassy.

2. 200 baht.

3. 400 baht.

4. 40 baht.

Sorry that's only 640, got a free ride with another Finn to the MFA.

Edited September 8, 2011 by PoorSucker

[Mario2008]

Express service costs 800. But that is a nice embassy. Not many provide services for free.

[lopburi3]

Am not sure poster has anything to do with Australia as that is not where he seems to be located. As said for most people it is routine and easy/fast Embassy process to obtain letter but I would advise early contact with his Embassy to confirm what is required as some require a lot more paperwork from home country than others.

[OZEMADE]

Am not sure poster has anything to do with Australia as that is not where he seems to be located. As said for most people it is routine and easy/fast Embassy process to obtain letter but I would advise early contact with his Embassy to confirm what is required as some require a lot more paperwork from home country than others.

I had no idea where the person was from, however he sent me an email thanking me for the info.

Lopburi3. I would suggest as you are a moderator, you have the info I gave him be pinned in your Visa section for easier access for other members as it is current and what's required. For your information and action.

[cheeryble]

Good Luck

When you're married like that you'll

1 both have to attend and sign anytng legal, banking, business etc

2 have to renounce any clsim on moneys for a house

3 it invslidates agreements which might protect you in property

[PoorSucker]

Good Luck

When you're married like that you'll

1 both have to attend and sign anytng legal, banking, business etc

2 have to renounce any clsim on moneys for a house

3 it invslidates agreements which might protect you in property

BS.

My wife never goes with me to the bank.

She's not shareholder in my company, so she can not sign anything for the company.

Everything you own before you got married is your personal property.

Everything you get while married are split 50/50 when divorced.

[Semper]

Good Luck

When you're married like that you'll

1 both have to attend and sign anytng legal, banking, business etc

2 have to renounce any clsim on moneys for a house

3 it invslidates agreements which might protect you in property

BS.

My wife never goes with me to the bank.

She's not shareholder in my company, so she can not sign anything for the company.

Everything you own before you got married is your personal property.

Everything you get while married are split 50/50 when divorced.

when

Yes, it's when more often than if.

[cheeryble]

Good Luck

When you're married like that you'll

1 both have to attend and sign anytng legal, banking, business etc

2 have to renounce any clsim on moneys for a house

3 it invslidates agreements which might protect you in property

BS.

My wife never goes with me to the bank.

She's not shareholder in my company, so she can not sign anything for the company.

BS eh?

Good luck any time you

1 sign any legal commitment which could possibly encumber your wife (or vice versa)

2 you try to reclaim funds you invested in land via your wife

3 you try to enforce any property encumbrances she gave you

Edited September 11, 2011 by cheeryble

[PoorSucker]

Good Luck

When you're married like that you'll

1 both have to attend and sign anytng legal, banking, business etc

2 have to renounce any clsim on moneys for a house

3 it invslidates agreements which might protect you in property

BS.

My wife never goes with me to the bank.

She's not shareholder in my company, so she can not sign anything for the company.

BS eh?

Good luck any time you

1 sign any legal commitment which could possibly encumber your wife (or vice versa)

2 you try to reclaim funds you invested in land via your wife

3 you try to enforce any property encumbrances she gave you

Been burnt?

As said split 50-50 if got into this after your married.

If you did this before married it's her property.

[Moonrakers]

Good Luck

When you're married like that you'll

1 both have to attend and sign anytng legal, banking, business etc

2 have to renounce any clsim on moneys for a house

3 it invslidates agreements which might protect you in property

BS.

My wife never goes with me to the bank.

She's not shareholder in my company, so she can not sign anything for the company.

BS eh?

Good luck any time you

1 sign any legal commitment which could possibly encumber your wife (or vice versa)

2 you try to reclaim funds you invested in land via your wife

3 you try to enforce any property encumbrances she gave you

It is BS. Everything is split 50/50 by law

If you've experienced differently, you lawyer has shafted you.

[cheeryble]

I have no idea why you're bypassing the points I made

Good luck any time you

1 sign any legal commitment which could possibly encumber your wife (or vice versa)

2 you try to reclaim funds you invested in land via your wife

3 you try to enforce any property encumbrances she gave you

and banging on about the 50/50 thing for gains after marriage.

They are not mutually exclusive.

Tell your wife to go get a mortgage tomorrow without you signing acquiesscence.

Tell her to go become the nominee owner for a friend of yours without your agreement.

Try to enforce a property encumbrance against her.

And are you aware a husband has to sign that all funds for a land buy are solely the wife's and therefore bypass the 50/50 split?

If the OP wants these problems before he even starts he can go ahead and take your advice.

Edited September 11, 2011 by cheeryble

[PoorSucker]

Tell your wife to go get a mortgage tomorrow without you signing acquiesscence.

Tell her to go become the nominee owner for a friend of yours without your agreement.

Try to enforce a property encumbrance against her.

And are you aware a husband has to sign that all funds for a land buy are solely the wife's and therefore bypass the 50/50 split?

If the OP wants these problems before he even starts he can go ahead and take your advice.

Yes, when you got married half her problems became yours.

With a good lawyer she must sell the land within one year and you'll get 50%.

Edited September 11, 2011 by PoorSucker

[WinnieTheKhwai]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

700 baht or 7,000 baht?

7000 would be utterly ludicrous.. As with just about all minor administrative stuff at local government offices, the fees are negligible. Sure, some embassies may fleece their own populace for unclear reasons, but the actual marriage costs pretty much nothing. (50-100 baht or whatever).

And then of course there is the newbie Ferang brigade who think they need a lawyer for everything, and end up paying up to 10K for... no reason at all. Well, 'not having to queue by myself amongst all those local people'.

[Moonrakers]

1. You need affirmation free to marry from your embassy in BKK, contact your embassy to see what paperwork they need from you.

2. Translation of the affirmation to Thai.

3. Register the translation at Ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) in BKK

4. Bring passport, GF's ID and house book with affirmation to the Amphur and get married.

1-3. I did in one day in BKK.

4. 20 minutes at my local Amphur.

Total cost for me, 700 baht (excluding travel to BKK)

700 baht or 7,000 baht?

7000 would be utterly ludicrous.. As with just about all minor administrative stuff at local government offices, the fees are negligible. Sure, some embassies may fleece their own populace for unclear reasons, but the actual marriage costs pretty much nothing. (50-100 baht or whatever).

And then of course there is the newbie Ferang brigade who think they need a lawyer for everything, and end up paying up to 10K for... no reason at all. Well, 'not having to queue by myself amongst all those local people'.

As I've said

I paid about 8k, might have been about 5 is but this was 8 years ago so not exactly fresh in the memory 1k (ish) was for the translation alone as it has to be done by a registered translator.

And your "among the local people" is way off mark. Myself, I just didn't want to have to wait for fookin' hours in what was a very busy office. I had the opportunity to pay extra for the convenience, and so I paid.

Maybe people that pay extra for a taxi do so because they don't want to have to sit on a bus 'among the local people'?

Edited September 11, 2011 by Moonrakers

[PoorSucker]

As I've said

I paid about 8k, might have been about 5 is but this was 8 years ago so not exactly fresh in the memory 1k (ish) was for the translation alone as it has to be done by a registered translator.

And your "among the local people" is way off mark. Myself, I just didn't want to have to wait for fookin' hours in what was a very busy office. I had the opportunity to pay extra for the convenience, and so I paid.

Maybe people that pay extra for a taxi do so because they don't want to have to sit on a bus 'among the local people'?

2008, everything under 1K, and I am the Poor Sucker.

[cheeryble]

So Jingthing it seems I was not giving BS but correct advice.

Are you now suggesting it's wise to take the route of knowingly committing an offence by false declaration "ah but with a good lawyer you can get 50% back"? You will of course only get the 50% back when an offence has not only been admitted but brought before the grom teedin and or the courts.....and the purchase should be annulled and then by my inspired amateur's reckoning you may get 100% back. Of course they can then charge you with fraudulent declaration to pervert the laws of the land you may (I'd guess as possible) get a criminal record which may mean goodbye Thailand.....

For the OP's information I'm told by my very clued up and cosmopolitan best Thai friend that people like her never get officially married because business gets very difficult. She persuaded my girlfriend out of it in five minutes flat for which I'm forever grateful.

Cheeryble

[Moonrakers]

As I've said

I paid about 8k, might have been about 5 is but this was 8 years ago so not exactly fresh in the memory 1k (ish) was for the translation alone as it has to be done by a registered translator.

And your "among the local people" is way off mark. Myself, I just didn't want to have to wait for fookin' hours in what was a very busy office. I had the opportunity to pay extra for the convenience, and so I paid.

Maybe people that pay extra for a taxi do so because they don't want to have to sit on a bus 'among the local people'?

2008, everything under 1K, and I am the Poor Sucker.

Your father smelled of elderberries.