spog Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) Mate, the study of only 2 cases does not make it a given. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're absolutely right. Feel free to quote some studies that contradict this report. Edited November 10, 2005 by spog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 My member quote says it all ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 just cos cars can kill dosnt change the fact that smokin is nasty and killer too <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No shit Einstein. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> oh good, so you got it then smartypants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 The Man Specialist subject:- "The Bleedin' Obvious". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyushin Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 When I go out boozing, I just gotta have a butt! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe you should check out the Katoey thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very funny! Why don't you just jump down , turn around, let me pack in soft , let it get hard and listen to your hips crack. You know what I mean by butt. Butt head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spog Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Very funny! Why don't you just jump down , turn around, let me pack in soft , let it get hard and listen to your hips crack. You know what I mean by butt. Butt head! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that the new dance craze that you kids are doing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 The ManSpecialist subject:- "The Bleedin' Obvious". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thort it was you who obvious, i musta bin wrong again as for Sir, wassat then, you fink you are royal or wat? or spel wif a C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 busted TWICE in bkk,, for throwing cigarett buts on the street,,,,,, what can i say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 The ManSpecialist subject:- "The Bleedin' Obvious". I thort it was you who obvious, i musta bin wrong again as for Sir, wassat then, you fink you are royal or wat? or spel wif a C Settle down The Man... or you may be off on a holiday... wot fun like brill innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 [ Settle down The Man... or you may be off on a holiday... wot fun like brill innit? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes mate, im cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlRedEyes Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Studies have bben done to show the damage that passive smoking can do. What I demand is that the government orders studies to be done on the health hazards of passive fart inhalation. Especially in enclosed environments like bars. Laws need to be passed, crackdowns, fines, tea money etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I fart.Where's my own private room to fart in? Why won't my boss let me take a fart break for 10 minutes, on the hour, every hour? Why do some idiots complain when I bend over and fart in their face? I like to enjoy a good fart after a meal. I don't mind walking around, smelling like old farts. If you don't like it, get out of my way. Farting makes you look cool, too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah, thats bin dun innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 To The Man, Me royal? Nahh, bet you have more sovereign rings than I do. Learn some Thai (gutter Thai will do), then you'll understand my handle. To Ilyshun, Your comment just begged for a one-liner. If it wasn't me it would have been somone else (probably Dr PP), but, judging from you hysterical over-raction, seems like you are still living in the closet, hmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 To The Man,Me royal? Nahh, bet you have more sovereign rings than I do. Learn some Thai (gutter Thai will do), then you'll understand my handle. To Ilyshun, Your comment just begged for a one-liner. If it wasn't me it would have been somone else (probably Dr PP), but, judging from you hysterical over-raction, seems like you are still living in the closet, hmmmm? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> nice makin friends here innit sir you can be nice to i bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 To The Man,Me royal? Nahh, bet you have more sovereign rings than I do. Learn some Thai (gutter Thai will do), then you'll understand my handle. oh yeah, and superior mister, my thai is ok and your "handle"! is still not inteligible so explane rather than scoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Back on topic please folks... or this thread will be closed. The Man is on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 50 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Smokers are inconsiderate of others. They die about 10 years earlier than non-smokers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyushin Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 To The Man,Me royal? Nahh, bet you have more sovereign rings than I do. Learn some Thai (gutter Thai will do), then you'll understand my handle. To Ilyshun, Your comment just begged for a one-liner. If it wasn't me it would have been somone else (probably Dr PP), but, judging from you hysterical over-raction, seems like you are still living in the closet, hmmmm? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Smoking is very dangerous for your health. If I were you I would stop while I was ahead. No over reaction on my part , just the first thing to come to mind when thinking of your comment. No closet either , just the bed , table or floor. Wanna come out and smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Smoking is very dangerous for your health. If I were you I would stop while I was ahead. Wish it was that easy. Have plenty of will-power, but, very little won't-power, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake7 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'm a smoker and I read so much about the dangers that I decided to give up. However you would not believe how difficult it is to give up reading - you see signs everywhere and are required to read constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDN Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 To all smokers: take up (seriously) a sport that requires a lot of running. Then you'll realise how bad your lungs are. I did that 20-odd years ago and gave up smoking completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonik Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I disagree .....if SMOKERS who like to smoke smoke they are alowed to smoke smoke.But keep the f...ing smoked smoking smoke out out of my f...ing face. And stay away from my taxmoney when you go in and out of the hospital your last 20 years. Ohh thats right there is no public service hospital in thailand.You,d better set up a retirement fond for this purpose. Sh...t ....why don,t you just burn it all away and blow your mind on a couple of joints a day. Supposed to be good for your mental healt............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuchok Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I disagree .....if SMOKERS who like to smoke smoke they are alowed to smoke smoke.But keep the f...ing smoked smoking smoke out out of my f...ing face. And stay away from my taxmoney when you go in and out of the hospital your last 20 years. Ohh thats right there is no public service hospital in thailand.You,d better set up a retirement fond for this purpose. Sh...t ....why don,t you just burn it all away and blow your mind on a couple of joints a day. Supposed to be good for your mental healt............. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There are quite a few western countries where the tax take on ciggies far out weigh the medical costs.Be interesting to see what the ratio is like in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDN Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 ...You,d better set up a retirement fond for this purpose...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> 6th floor Pattaya hotel balcony will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scouser Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Non-smokers have their uses - I get to utilise their duty free fag allowance. Scouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I disagree .....if SMOKERS who like to smoke smoke they are alowed to smoke smoke.But keep the f...ing smoked smoking smoke out out of my f...ing face. And stay away from my taxmoney when you go in and out of the hospital your last 20 years. Ohh thats right there is no public service hospital in thailand.You,d better set up a retirement fond for this purpose. Sh...t ....why don,t you just burn it all away and blow your mind on a couple of joints a day. Supposed to be good for your mental healt............. Yes, I think most smokers are idiots. Only a few are considerate to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Smoking, ie, the tobacco industry is not going anywhere, too much money in it, I read somewhere where for every one smoker that quits (or dies), two new ones are coming on line (globally). Nicotine is the second most addictive substance known to date, right behind Oxy Cotin. It's been shown it's easier to get off heroin than nicotine. But it can be done, peoplle do it everyday, it's just the relapse rate is very high. From what I understand, nothing crosses the air /blood barrier in the lungs as fast as nicotine, not even meth. Face it, it's so expedient it's the one thing they'll let you do before shooting or hanging you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Mouse Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Cigarette butts united. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 There are quite a few western countries where the tax take on ciggies far out weigh the medical costs.Be interesting to see what the ratio is like in Thailand. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it would be interesting if you provided this "ratio" for "quite a few western countries". Can you share any facts to back this up? I'm not trying to be a pain but people here seem easily confused between facts and opinions (or heresay). Do you mean that the annual revenues for a State as a result of taxes on tobacco products are greater than the cost of providing health care to the people of that State who suffer from smoking-related dieseases (cancers, respiratory diseases, cardiovascular diseases)? I think the health-care and health-insurance providers would tend to disagree with this position? (Yes, in the U.S.A. taxes on all tobacco products at the State and Federal level are quite high, mostly at the State level. And yes, these "Sin" taxes (incl. alcohol) are used to off-set reduced revenues from other taxes and local aid from the Federal government, and are not necessarily used to directly for anti-/non-smoking campaigns or to off-set the Stae's burden in providing health-care. No argument there. Additional taxes do have an added benefit, they result in a reduction in consumption.) Cigarette smoking is the single most preventable cause of premature death in the United States. Each year, more than 400,000 Americans die from cigarette smoking. In fact, one in every five deaths in the United States is smoking related. Every year, smoking kills more than 276,000 men and 142,000 women.1 Between 1960 and 1990, deaths from lung cancer among women have increased by more than 400%—exceeding breast cancer deaths in the mid-1980s.2 The American Cancer Society estimated that in 1994, 64,300 women died from lung cancer and 44,300 died from breast cancer.3 Men who smoke increase their risk of death from lung cancer by more than 22 times and from bronchitis and emphysema by nearly 10 times. Women who smoke increase their risk of dying from lung cancer by nearly 12 times and the risk of dying from bronchitis and emphysema by more than 10 times. Smoking triples the risk of dying from heart disease among middle-aged men and women.1 Every year in the United States, premature deaths from smoking rob more than five million years from the potential lifespan of those who have died.1 Annually, exposure to secondhand smoke (or environmental tobacco smoke) causes an estimated 3,000 deaths from lung cancer among American adults.4 Scientific studies also link secondhand smoke with heart disease. References 1. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Smoking-attributable mortality and years of potential life lost — United States, 1990. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report 1993;42(33):645-8. 2. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Mortality trends for selected smoking-related and breast cancer — United States, 1950-1990. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report 1993;42(44):857, 863-6. 3. American Cancer Society. Cancer Facts & Figures — 1996. Atlanta (GA): American Cancer Society, 1996. 4. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders. Washington (DC): U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Office of Health and Environmental Assessment, Office of Research and Development. EPA/600/6-90/006F. December 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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