Living In Thailand I Don'T Use Toilet Paper Anymore

[goldcountry]

That toilet hose thing gets my ass nice and clean after a healthy dump. One more thing I love about living in Thailand. No more sandpapering my ass with toilet paper doing nothing more than smearing poop around after laying a bowlflopper. Why don't they have those ass-hoses in the West anyway? I don't think I could live without them now.

Edited October 11, 2011 by goldcountry

[TheWalkingMan]

You walk around town with a damp tukas? I guess we all learn something new everyday.

Edit -

They are nice, but bum guns are below the hi-tech toilets in Japan. Some even have a dryer so that you don't need toilet paper.

Edited October 11, 2011 by TheWalkingMan

[IanForbes]

Me neither. I just carry a roll of this everywhere.

Especially when I've gotta go here.

[goldcountry]

You walk around town with a damp tukas? I guess we all learn something new everyday.

Edit -

They are nice, but bum guns are below the hi-tech toilets in Japan. Some even have a dryer so that you don't need toilet paper.

Whats a tuka?

Wow those Japanese toilets sound awesome. And clean too. Next time I'm with a Japanese girl I'll be sure and dive on her rosebud.

[TheWalkingMan]

Tukas -

Butt, rear-end

If he comes back to this party, I'm gonna kick his TUKAS right outta here.

[TongueThaied]

I look at it this way. If you have a smear of mud on the wall, are you goona have better luck cleaning it by scrubbing with some dry paper or by hitting it with a profusion of water?

[wjhall]

Too much information in this thread...especially at 6am when drinking my coffee with a nice doughnut!!!

[zzaa09]

Amazing, isn't it? The model of civilisation and healthiness equated with using paper.

[Theo007]

Well said, Wjhall!

[Spoonman]

Too much information in this thread...especially at 6am when drinking my coffee with a nice doughnut!!!

A doughnut at 6am, that's seriously worse than talk of anus cleansing.

[FarmerJoe]

Excuse me, but who wakes up in the morning, scratches their boys and and thinks to themselves, ya know, I think gonna tell the world about my ass wiping habits today? And maybe tomorrow, if I'm feeling up to it, I'll tell them how when I eat Isan food, I S**t like a pack of wild dogs and have myself dewormed.

[IanForbes]

Excuse me, but who wakes up in the morning, scratches their boys and and thinks to themselves, ya know, I think gonna tell the world about my ass wiping habits today? And maybe tomorrow, if I'm feeling up to it, I'll tell them how when I eat Isan food, I S**t like a pack of wild dogs and have myself dewormed.

What else is there to do when you have CHOSEN to live out here in the sticks? He's lucky he has internet. Taking a crap is a big event in your life.

[TheWalkingMan]

Too much information in this thread...especially at 6am when drinking my coffee with a nice doughnut!!!

A doughnut at 6am, that's seriously worse than talk of anus cleansing.

Drinking coffee on a doughnut?

Couldn't resist.

[hhfarang]

Hey, I agree with the OP. I've been living here for eight years and have become addicted to the "bum gun". When we go to Bangkok (we live a bit south of there) I choose my hotel based on four things. Free in room internet, free on site secure parking, proximity to BTS/MRT, and whether there is a bum gun in the bathroom. I think it's the best invention I have seen in SE Asia that was new to me after coming here. I had them installed in my own home bathrooms. They are especially great if the pressure is high as you can wash out about a foot of colon while you are at it.

I do use paper, but only a couple of sheets to dry off the water. They always come away clean!

Cheers to the inventor of this useful device!

[Billmont]

I think the correct name in Thai is "Si Sham La" or this is how I have heard it pronounced. The are not legal in most countries that supplies mains water for drinking. The reasoning is that if the Si Sham La was left in the toilet bown by accident and there was a mains water cut (or power cut)it is possible for a vacuum to be created in the mains system and water from the toilet bowl could be sucked back into the mains system with obvious consequences. Some hotel do have them but it is rare and then they must be approved by the Water Company inspector to ensure the hose contains an approved non return valve. Even shower hoses in hotels have to be a suitable distance from the toilet so that they cannot be dropped into the toilet bowl. They are very strict on this and will shut down any premises that does not comply. I agree that they are very convenient and hygenic and I was surprised to note that most toilets and hotel have them in the middle east.

[Spoonman]

I think the correct name in Thai is "Si Sham La" or this is how I have heard it pronounced. The are not legal in most countries that supplies mains water for drinking. The reasoning is that if the Si Sham La was left in the toilet bown by accident and there was a mains water cut (or power cut)it is possible for a vacuum to be created in the mains system and water from the toilet bowl could be sucked back into the mains system with obvious consequences. Some hotel do have them but it is rare and then they must be approved by the Water Company inspector to ensure the hose contains an approved non return valve. Even shower hoses in hotels have to be a suitable distance from the toilet so that they cannot be dropped into the toilet bowl. They are very strict on this and will shut down any premises that does not comply. I agree that they are very convenient and hygenic and I was surprised to note that most toilets and hotel have them in the middle east.

Sounds like a load of shit to me, how would the water be sucked back into the mains, it has a one way valve activated by the operator squeezing the trigger.

[Billmont]

I think the correct name in Thai is "Si Sham La" or this is how I have heard it pronounced. The are not legal in most countries that supplies mains water for drinking. The reasoning is that if the Si Sham La was left in the toilet bown by accident and there was a mains water cut (or power cut)it is possible for a vacuum to be created in the mains system and water from the toilet bowl could be sucked back into the mains system with obvious consequences. Some hotel do have them but it is rare and then they must be approved by the Water Company inspector to ensure the hose contains an approved non return valve. Even shower hoses in hotels have to be a suitable distance from the toilet so that they cannot be dropped into the toilet bowl. They are very strict on this and will shut down any premises that does not comply. I agree that they are very convenient and hygenic and I was surprised to note that most toilets and hotel have them in the middle east.

Sounds like a load of shit to me, how would the water be sucked back into the mains, it has a one way valve activated by the operator squeezing the trigger.

The valve controlling the flow of water is not an approved non return valve and when there is no pressure it is possible for the vacuum to allow water to pass the wrong way. It is not your opinion that counts it is the the law relating to water companies in England and Wales and is contained principally in the Water Industry Acts 1991 and 1999 and the Water Act 2003. Also relevant are the Water Resources Act 1991 as amended and other national and European environmental legislation, particularly the Water Framework Directive 2000/60/EC, now being implemented. Don't blame me argue with the authorities, I was just explaining why such devices are not in common use in the west and this is in response to a post. Just because the subject contains sh one t there is no need to talk it as well!

[maloyd1]

I think the correct name in Thai is "Si Sham La" or this is how I have heard it pronounced. The are not legal in most countries that supplies mains water for drinking. The reasoning is that if the Si Sham La was left in the toilet bown by accident and there was a mains water cut (or power cut)it is possible for a vacuum to be created in the mains system and water from the toilet bowl could be sucked back into the mains system with obvious consequences. Some hotel do have them but it is rare and then they must be approved by the Water Company inspector to ensure the hose contains an approved non return valve. Even shower hoses in hotels have to be a suitable distance from the toilet so that they cannot be dropped into the toilet bowl. They are very strict on this and will shut down any premises that does not comply. I agree that they are very convenient and hygenic and I was surprised to note that most toilets and hotel have them in the middle east.

Sounds like a load of shit to me, how would the water be sucked back into the mains, it has a one way valve activated by the operator squeezing the trigger.

The valve controlling the flow of water is not an approved non return valve and when there is no pressure it is possible for the vacuum to allow water to pass the wrong way. It is not your opinion that counts it is the the law relating to water companies in England and Wales and is contained principally in the Water Industry Acts 1991 and 1999 and the Water Act 2003. Also relevant are the Water Resources Act 1991 as amended and other national and European environmental legislation, particularly the Water Framework Directive 2000/60/EC, now being implemented. Don't blame me argue with the authorities, I was just explaining why such devices are not in common use in the west and this is in response to a post. Just because the subject contains sh one t there is no need to talk it as well!

All quite correct. The valve in the "Si Sham La" is designed to prevent water from ascaping until the trigger is pressed. It is held shut by the spring but the closing function is reinforced by the water pressure behind the valve. So if the water pressure drops and the applience is submerged in the toilet basin water will be sucked back into the suply lines from the basin. In a high rise appartent block/Condo or Hotel the back pressure can by very high. Once the water supply pressure comes back on any water in the lines can be fed to any tap in the system. In Thailand this is not an issue as we do not drink the water from the mains unless it has been purified. In Eastern Ciuntries this is not the case, as tap water is considered drinkable, hence the lack of "Si Sham Las" and the strict laws on water supply/anti syphon valves etc.

Still love the "Si Sham La" and not used Ars Wipes for 12+ months. Only been living here for 18 months.

Edited October 16, 2011 by maloyd1

[Raphaeleh]

I think the correct name in Thai is "Si Sham La" or this is how I have heard it pronounced. The are not legal in most countries that supplies mains water for drinking. The reasoning is that if the Si Sham La was left in the toilet bown by accident and there was a mains water cut (or power cut)it is possible for a vacuum to be created in the mains system and water from the toilet bowl could be sucked back into the mains system with obvious consequences. Some hotel do have them but it is rare and then they must be approved by the Water Company inspector to ensure the hose contains an approved non return valve. Even shower hoses in hotels have to be a suitable distance from the toilet so that they cannot be dropped into the toilet bowl. They are very strict on this and will shut down any premises that does not comply. I agree that they are very convenient and hygenic and I was surprised to note that most toilets and hotel have them in the middle east.

Sounds like a load of shit to me, how would the water be sucked back into the mains, it has a one way valve activated by the operator squeezing the trigger.

The valve controlling the flow of water is not an approved non return valve and when there is no pressure it is possible for the vacuum to allow water to pass the wrong way. It is not your opinion that counts it is the the law relating to water companies in England and Wales and is contained principally in the Water Industry Acts 1991 and 1999 and the Water Act 2003. Also relevant are the Water Resources Act 1991 as amended and other national and European environmental legislation, particularly the Water Framework Directive 2000/60/EC, now being implemented. Don't blame me argue with the authorities, I was just explaining why such devices are not in common use in the west and this is in response to a post. Just because the subject contains sh one t there is no need to talk it as well!

All quite correct. The valve in the "Si Sham La" is designed to prevent water from ascaping until the trigger is pressed. It is held shut by the spring but the closing function is reinforced by the water pressure behind the valve. So if the water pressure drops and the applience is submerged in the toilet basin water will be sucked back into the suply lines from the basin. In a high rise appartent block/Condo or Hotel the back pressure can by very high. Once the water supply pressure comes back on any water in the lines can be fed to any tap in the system. In Thailand this is not an issue as we do not drink the water from the mains unless it has been purified. In Eastern Ciuntries this is not the case, as tap water is considered drinkable, hence the lack of "Si Sham Las" and the strict laws on water supply/anti syphon valves etc.

Still love the "Si Sham La" and not used Ars Wipes for 12+ months. Only been living here for 18 months.

I have been living in Indonesia for the past 3 years, and have become accustomed to using to bum gun. I am now relocating to Thailand where they are the norm as well, happy to say. I like the idea so much I installed one in my outhouse at the cabin in British Columbia, Canada. The family and friends find it unusual to start with, but soon find it great alternative to just smearing around the <deleted>.

[TheWalkingMan]

C'mon thaivisa high rollers... stop reaching around to clean your bum and invest in a proper machine.

The video looks like a basic model and I think that the premium models have a fan to dry the dampness from the water, a little music for the ladies to hide those embarrassing noises and some even will perfume the air after your leavings.

All the upper level resorts, villas, hotels and restaurants should have these installed. If not, demand one!

I can see the tag line... "Stop reaching around." You heard it hear first.

[goldcountry]

Hey, I agree with the OP. I've been living here for eight years and have become addicted to the "bum gun". When we go to Bangkok (we live a bit south of there) I choose my hotel based on four things. Free in room internet, free on site secure parking, proximity to BTS/MRT, and whether there is a bum gun in the bathroom. I think it's the best invention I have seen in SE Asia that was new to me after coming here. I had them installed in my own home bathrooms. They are especially great if the pressure is high as you can wash out about a foot of colon while you are at it.

I do use paper, but only a couple of sheets to dry off the water. They always come away clean!

Cheers to the inventor of this useful device!

Amen to that. Wonderful invention. When I was living in states I used to get hemorrhoids every year around Christmas because Id eat and crap so much. Those ass hoses are a dream. I never have any poop residual anymore and you're right, you can clean like 6 inches into your ass with one of those things.

My farts don't seem to stink as much in Thailand either. I wonder why?

[4evermaat]

Hey, I agree with the OP. I've been living here for eight years and have become addicted to the "bum gun". When we go to Bangkok (we live a bit south of there) I choose my hotel based on four things. Free in room internet, free on site secure parking, proximity to BTS/MRT, and whether there is a bum gun in the bathroom. I think it's the best invention I have seen in SE Asia that was new to me after coming here. I had them installed in my own home bathrooms. They are especially great if the pressure is high as you can wash out about a foot of colon while you are at it.

I do use paper, but only a couple of sheets to dry off the water. They always come away clean!

Cheers to the inventor of this useful device!

Amen to that. Wonderful invention. When I was living in states I used to get hemorrhoids every year around Christmas because Id eat and crap so much. Those ass hoses are a dream. I never have any poop residual anymore and you're right, you can clean like 6 inches into your ass with one of those things.

My farts don't seem to stink as much in Thailand either. I wonder why?

I no longer need the enema bags. Just angle the spray and hold it. If you want a more thorough cleanse, just continue the process, trying to hold the water in longer each time. It is difficult to keep the pressure low. You can run another water system (shower head or faucet) to reduce the overall pressure. i suppose one could install a pressure reducer or valve at the line opening, and then you could control it that way.

As to why your farts don't stink....combination of change in eating habits [especially the animal fats] along with doing those enemas.

But yes, that's one thing I would bring back to the West. I couldn't imagine not using the water hose to clean up. There is one negative I've observed. Depending on how you sit, and how the crap comes out, you can shoot some of it outside behind the toilet. Now this isn't a big deal because the whole bathroom is tile and the drain is in the corner. You could just spray clean the overage into the drain. But you'd have to hand-pick it up in the Western bathroom.

Edited October 20, 2011 by 4evermaat

[TheWalkingMan]

I still think that these machines are the best way to go.

[tutsiwarrior]

one place I lived on a western compound in saudi were reluctant to install a bum gun in the bathroom; the bathroom floors weren't recessed and there was no drain like in a lot of countries where bum guns are used...so if the valve in the bum gun nozzle failed the house would get flooded unless an isolating valve was in place and in use...I hadta sign a document to take resposibility if the accommodation flooded...

I wanted to install a bum gun in our house in the UK after we returned from Indonesia but my then wife vehemently refused saying that we would be ridiculed by our guests...this led to a further deterioration in our marriage that was doomed anyway...

[midasthailand]

C'mon thaivisa high rollers... stop reaching around to clean your bum and invest in a proper machine.

The video looks like a basic model and I think that the premium models have a fan to dry the dampness from the water, a little music for the ladies to hide those embarrassing noises and some even will perfume the air after your leavings.

All the upper level resorts, villas, hotels and restaurants should have these installed. If not, demand one!

I can see the tag line... "Stop reaching around." You heard it hear first.

Just spent three days in G Tower hotel in Kuala Lumpur and they have this toilet installed in all rooms. I do use the bum gun but still use the toilet paper to check effectiveness and dry my Ass!!

[bkkjames]

Come on guys admit it, you enjoy the bum gun

I use the thing for cleaning the bathroom-much more pressure than the shower.

Next question, do you piss in the shower to save water?

[tutsiwarrior]

the shower is upstairs in the bathroom which is en suite to the bedroom...when I'm down stairs I piss in the sink in my kitchen or use the toilet in one of the other shophouses adjacent that we own...their toilets have no flushing mechanism...

[ThaiSold]

Even Thai people use paper after the hose man, that's just grosse

[tutsiwarrior]

Even Thai people use paper after the hose man, that's just grosse

no it ain't...just imagine the pleasure that's derived when in discussion with a fellow westerner and then mentioning: 'and ye know, I don't use toilet paper at all anymore...'

shock and revulsion while you check under the fingernails of yer left hand for stray brown matter...

[poanoi]

I wonder if the polluted water from back pressure can travel from one house/hotel to another ?

I also wonder what kinds of diseases & bacterias that can spread this way,

if i i.e get this sh!t in my eyes & mouth ?

And i also wonder if this is why water here stink so badly ?

Edited October 22, 2011 by poanoi